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#1 Jun 02 2009 at 2:46 PM Rating: Good
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Anybody want to guess at PC specs? Will DirectX 10 be mandatory?
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#2 Jun 02 2009 at 2:50 PM Rating: Decent
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I hope not..would mean Vista/Windows 7 would be mandatory =\

Hmm, I'm going to guess...

OS: Windows XP (still good!), Windows Vista, Windows 7
Processor: 2.8GHZ or better
Ram: 2GB or better
Direct X: 9 or 10/11
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Graphics Card: Usual ATI or Nvidia card here.
HD space: 3GB or better.
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I'm guessing it probably will. The requirements for a PC for XI are so low that a modern netbook can run it.

I'm assuming (ballpark numbers I'm pulling out of my *** based on what I know of PS3 architecture) that you'll probably need a Core/Athlon-class processor in the 2K GHz range. You'll probably also need a video card no older than 2007-8 vintage with lots of video RAM and horsepower, recommended 2 gigs of RAM, and probably 20 gigs of hard drive space. (Comparatively, FFXI takes up 9 gigs of HDD space; I run it off a 16 gig EEEPC card on my netbook.)
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#4 Jun 02 2009 at 2:57 PM Rating: Decent
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It will probably require at least two cores, because all manner of unnecessary things will be unloaded onto the client's side.
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#5 Jun 02 2009 at 3:50 PM Rating: Good
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The graphics look much like the last remnant, so I'm gonna go out on this one and just copypasta them

Minimum System Requirements

- Processor: Intel Core 2 DUO E4400/AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ (2 GHz)
- Memory: 1.5 GB
- Hard Drive: 15 GB Free
- Video Memory: 256 MB (nVidia GeForce 8600GT)

That said, aparently the game ran like silk with lowest settings on specs half as great as this.

DX10 if not 11 is likely a definate. Like it or not, Windows XP is gonna be dead by the time this gets released, or so microsoft say.
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#6 Jun 02 2009 at 5:11 PM Rating: Decent
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I also have a suspicion this is gonna want DX10... though I suppose they might have DX9 compatability with enhanced DX10 features ala LOTRO.

They are gonna want as many pcs as possible to be able to run this at least minimal settings, and if I were to guess, I'd bet the $500-600 notebooks being sold today would run it on acceptable levels.

I can't imagine (well i could, but...) it will require more than:

3gz processing power
2gb ram
256 video ram
15 gb hdd space
#7 Jun 02 2009 at 5:16 PM Rating: Decent
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The graphics look much like the last remnant, so I'm gonna go out on this one and just copypasta them
Man if the graphics look anything like that game I'm going to be really ******* Those were awful. I payed 40 dollars for that game, installed it, played it, felt like a jackass, then sat pondering that those 40 dollars were the worst spent ever in my life.
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#8 Jun 02 2009 at 5:28 PM Rating: Decent
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The graphics look much like the last remnant, so I'm gonna go out on this one and just copypasta them
Man if the graphics look anything like that game I'm going to be really ******* Those were awful. I payed 40 dollars for that game, installed it, played it, felt like a jackass, then sat pondering that those 40 dollars were the worst spent ever in my life.


The PC version of Last Remnant was much better, and I bet if your PC meets
those specs, you will be able to play FFXIV. It just makes sense. Also
makes sense for it to require Vista at least just from Microsoft's pov.
#9 Jun 02 2009 at 5:31 PM Rating: Good
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Okay, so let's say I need to upgrade at least one PC to play this game. I would need to start saving money NOW.

So, I would definitely need a new motherboard and graphics card, which would then mean I'd need a new PSU, and possibly more RAM. Really, the only thing I could keep is the hard drive. -_-; Would I be better off saving up for a new PC, or would it be possible to get a mobo, PSU, and graphics card separately for cheaper? Estimates? Recommended places to get components?

-_-; I've got a lot of shopping around to do.
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#10 Jun 02 2009 at 5:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Okay, so let's say I need to upgrade at least one PC to play this game. I would need to start saving money NOW.

So, I would definitely need a new motherboard and graphics card, which would then mean I'd need a new PSU, and possibly more RAM. Really, the only thing I could keep is the hard drive. -_-; Would I be better off saving up for a new PC, or would it be possible to get a mobo, PSU, and graphics card separately for cheaper? Estimates? Recommended places to get components?

-_-; I've got a lot of shopping around to do.
I bet, reusing the keyboard, monitor, mouse and speakers, you could build a PC that will be able to play FFXIV for under 600 bucks (assuming it's graphics are comparable to Last Remnants).
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#12 Jun 02 2009 at 7:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Mistress Theonehio wrote:
I hope not..would mean Vista/Windows 7 would be mandatory =\


There are ways to run DX10 on XP
#13 Jun 02 2009 at 7:26 PM Rating: Decent
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I can't see them not trying to make at least Vista mandatory
from a business standpoint. From a PC standpoint, if you have the specs
that can run the game you can get Vista easily.
#14 Jun 02 2009 at 7:30 PM Rating: Good
I'm hoping that a Geforce 9600 is enough to play this MMO. That's the new video card I'm upgrading so I'm hoping it's enough. I'm not going to buy a PS3 just to play this MMO and would rather play it (If I play it) on my PC.
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I'm hoping that a Geforce 9600 is enough to play this MMO. That's the new video card I'm upgrading so I'm hoping it's enough. I'm not going to buy a PS3 just to play this MMO and would rather play it (If I play it) on my PC.


A list of Graphics card strength chart. Very useful when
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-gtx,2270-6.html
#16 Jun 02 2009 at 7:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Okay, so let's say I need to upgrade at least one PC to play this game. I would need to start saving money NOW.
So, I would definitely need a new motherboard and graphics card, which would then mean I'd need a new PSU, and possibly more RAM. Really, the only thing I could keep is the hard drive. -_-; Would I be better off saving up for a new PC, or would it be possible to get a mobo, PSU, and graphics card separately for cheaper? Estimates? Recommended places to get components?

-_-; I've got a lot of shopping around to do.


I'd say, if you wanted to even concern yourself at all about it now, I wouldn't do anything more than stash away a few buck when you have it to spare in a PC fund. While I have a feeling most budget PCs sold today will run this game (Just meeting the specs to run Vista makes most of the machines out there acceptable at running a lot of games), we all know PC prices do nothing but fall. Waiting a year (or even until shortly before release) will stretch your upgrading dollar a lot farther than where it will go now. And you'll know exactly what specs to shoot for!
#17 Jun 02 2009 at 8:34 PM Rating: Good
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This is all assuming the PC version is not a horribly emulated game like 11 is.

Here is hoping it isn't.
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#18 Jun 02 2009 at 9:15 PM Rating: Decent
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I doubt it considering that the PS3 is involved.

The farther apart the graphic engines the harder it is to develop content for both of them simultaneously.

Something tells me that Microsoft wouldn't like the fact that there is a game that uses their proprietary DX10 "Games for Windows" platform that is also available on a non-hardware driven platform (PS3) that doesnt use it. "Games for windows" was specifically designed to make Vista a closed platform for games.

2010 isnt that far away either and although some of the newer cards could handle DX10 requirements without a problem, it would be a lot to ask a large Japanese consumer base to upgrade their machines to max just to play.

Another aspect to consider is that DX10 is ONLY available on Vista as of current. DX11 is Windows 7 which will be released later this year.

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The latest versions of Direct3D, namely, Direct3D 10 and Direct3D 9Ex, are only officially available for Windows Vista, because each of these new versions was built to depend upon the new Windows Display Driver Model that was introduced for Windows Vista. The new Vista/WDDM graphics architecture includes a new video memory manager that supports virtualizing graphics hardware to multiple applications and services such as the Desktop Window Manager.


That API described above is not open source and I have never heard of it being licensed to another but offical Games for Windows developers.

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#19 Jun 02 2009 at 10:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Who knows, to save some effort maybe they are going to make the Windows version use OpenGL, considering FFXIV is no longer going to be released on Xbox 360 (at least for the time being), and the PS3 uses a variation of OpenGL.

That is a bit of a stretch though considering Crystal Tools was designed with PS3/PC/X360 and possibly Wii multi-platform support. Since FFXIII is going to both PS3 and Xbox 360 simultaneously in 2010, that means Crystal Tools' "common 3D data format" support for OpenGL and DirectX 9.0c has already been flushed out. That being the case the Windows version has just as much chance to use DirectX 9.0c at its core.

I really doubt that Square Enix will require DX10, considering they likely want to game to be very scalable on older hardware as to not limit their potential user base. Having a DX10/DX11 client in addition to standard DX9 client is always a possibility, but I wouldn't count on it.

Remember that the PS3 uses a variation of the over 3 year old 7800GTX 512 (but with only 256MB of memory), so it's safe to assume it will run decently at 1280x720 at PS3 comparable quality with anything equal to or greater than a 7800GTX 512, 2GB of RAM, and a decent dual-core processor.
#20 Jun 02 2009 at 10:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Square Enix would seriously be shooting themselves in the foot if they don't release this on Windows XP. I seriously don't see how they could ignore it. I'm not even going to consider vista and the huge blunder it is, but Windows 7 is another story. I know first hand windows 7 is good, but by the time FFXIV is released, there still won't be enough people with it to properly fill a MMO on a PC. They're going to more or less really need to offer support for windows XP.
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