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#1 Jun 03 2009 at 12:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Do you guys think there will be some sort of character migration from FFXI to FFXIV so that we don't lose the years of our playing efforts on FFXI? I'll be really happy if we get to keep our characters/levels/jobs :D
#2 Jun 03 2009 at 12:10 AM Rating: Decent
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NO!... It better be all brand new!... if it's not then I will be ****** off. It would suck to start a "NEW" mmo but have people with tanked gear or jobs already leveled.


^^ Maybee a way to keep your name, but that's about it.
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#3 Jun 03 2009 at 12:12 AM Rating: Good
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I sure hope not. If they do, perhaps segregate them on their own sepcial server(s).


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#4 Jun 03 2009 at 12:12 AM Rating: Decent
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I agree with the above, a fresh start is a good thing. The most exciting time that I had in FFXI was when I was just starting off, brand new.
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#5 Jun 03 2009 at 12:14 AM Rating: Default
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that's true, but that kind of makes me wonder if I should keep playing FFXI now or stop and wait for this game...lol
#6 Jun 03 2009 at 12:15 AM Rating: Decent
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wintermix wrote:
Do you guys think there will be some sort of character migration from FFXI to FFXIV so that we don't lose the years of our playing efforts on FFXI? I'll be really happy if we get to keep our characters/levels/jobs :D


You are forgetting one small detail and that is that FF14 is not an expansion to FFXI its a new game so transfers are out of the question. And no you dont loose your 7 years of character progression since FFXI will run alongside FF14 and you can countinue play your favourite char for another 20 years in FFXI.

Edited, Jun 3rd 2009 4:15am by Maldavian
#7 Jun 03 2009 at 12:15 AM Rating: Decent
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If there was such a thing then it would mean FFXIV would be FFXI 2. I don't want a FFXI again. I want a fresh new mmorpg with different elements and similar features. Would you want to migrate Tidus from FFX to FFXIII? OH I'm pretty sure you would love to migrate your Cloud level 99 to every FF game.
#8 Jun 03 2009 at 12:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Maybe they should do something like in Monster Hunter, you didnt get your EQ but what you go was tickets based on the rarity of the items you had, I dont think Migrating lvls is a good idea but changing your items and EQ into Tickets you could Exchange for some gil, items, materials, or weps and Armor to make a veteran who spent, and i quote "451 Days, 21 Hours, 13 Minutes, and 13 Seconds" who was a friend of mine, might actually have a use for that time. The tickets could be in tears based on the lvl EQ, so like a set of AF1 amounts to a LVL1 Ticket, for each set you have. Then Some JSE could give out lvl 2 tickets, and maybe God and sea items give lvl 2 tickets as well, and level 3 tickets are the Amazing items such as PCC, KC, Cursed +1 sets, and so on, all having value that may or may not effect the games economy.
#9 Jun 03 2009 at 12:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Maybe they should do something like in Monster Hunter, you didnt get your EQ but what you go was tickets based on the rarity of the items you had, I dont think Migrating lvls is a good idea but changing your items and EQ into Tickets you could Exchange for some gil, items, materials, or weps and Armor to make a veteran who spent, and i quote "451 Days, 21 Hours, 13 Minutes, and 13 Seconds" who was a friend of mine, might actually have a use for that time. The tickets could be in tears based on the lvl EQ, so like a set of AF1 amounts to a LVL1 Ticket, for each set you have. Then Some JSE could give out lvl 2 tickets, and maybe God and sea items give lvl 2 tickets as well, and level 3 tickets are the Amazing items such as PCC, KC, Cursed +1 sets, and so on, all having value that may or may not effect the games economy.


No, there is a reason to why they will KEEP FFXI running alongside FF14. There wont be any transfers and FFXI will run business as usual.
#10 Jun 03 2009 at 12:19 AM Rating: Default
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Maybe they should do something like in Monster Hunter, you didnt get your EQ but what you go was tickets based on the rarity of the items you had, I dont think Migrating lvls is a good idea but changing your items and EQ into Tickets you could Exchange for some gil, items, materials, or weps and Armor to make a veteran who spent, and i quote "451 Days, 21 Hours, 13 Minutes, and 13 Seconds" who was a friend of mine, might actually have a use for that time. The tickets could be in tears based on the lvl EQ, so like a set of AF1 amounts to a LVL1 Ticket, for each set you have. Then Some JSE could give out lvl 2 tickets, and maybe God and sea items give lvl 2 tickets as well, and level 3 tickets are the Amazing items such as PCC, KC, Cursed +1 sets, and so on, all having value that may or may not effect the games economy.




100% NO!


I say this because if SE announced this, the price on all items WOULD SKY ROCKET!! ... people would just buy all the items they can, and use thier tanked out ls's to get all the items they could, even items they can't use just for tickets.
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#11 Jun 03 2009 at 12:22 AM Rating: Decent
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It was indeed just a suggestion, I think the idea holds some good, but Then again it would completely kill FFXI in the process, because it would be subseqently trading your items in 11 and getting things back in 14, which means you have no point to keep playing 11......
#12 Jun 03 2009 at 12:24 AM Rating: Default
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wintermix wrote:
that's true, but that kind of makes me wonder if I should keep playing FFXI now or stop and wait for this game...lol


You should keep playing FF11 until FF14 comes out. Personally I will stop playing FF11 when FF14 hit the stores. Me and my friends will have a really good time there :D

Edited, Jun 3rd 2009 4:25am by Maldavian
#13 Jun 03 2009 at 12:30 AM Rating: Good
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Tailon. This brings me back to what I said. FFXIV isn't FFXI 2. Its a completely reworked different game. Monster Hunter Freedom to Monster Hunter Feedom 2 offered that because its the sequel. You fight the monsters exactly the same. The system is the same. What you do get is new weapons and new monsters to fight. So in a sense MHFreedom2 and MHUnite are nothing but expansions.

FFXIV is a new game and as you've had to start a new Final Fantasy after leveling all your characters to 99 on the previous Final Fantasy then you must do so. You want to import your WoW characters to FFXIV too?
#14 Jun 03 2009 at 12:33 AM Rating: Decent
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=/ What about EX items of some value as to not flood the market with useless items, Thus ensuring your not over loading the market with items and Prices thus ******** the Economy of FFXI, Keep your EX Items there, but still get a placement ticket in the new game to give you some sense of accomplishment while starting off the new one, I know it helped in Monster Hunter Freedom > Freedom 2. The Ticket system got you Decent EQ faster to start fighting those monsters you know your skilled enough to fight already.

But then again it will be the death of XI and personally i quit playin 11 awhile ago, and I always wanted to jump back in, but its hard to do, this will give everyone a fresh start, so that you dont feel like your looked down on because you took a leap of Absence
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The only way SE can guarantee a 500k player base from day one is if they completely transfer characters from FFXI to FFXIV, if they want to start fresh a lot of people might want to stay in FFXI and FFXIV would need to establish its own playerbase. And, sincerely, from a business standpoint, allowing character transfers is the easiest way out. Besides, FFXIV level cap won't be level 75. And, who is to say FFXIV will have levels at all?

We should simply be able to transfer over our characters, stripped down to naked, if need be, that way we can keep our online selves (if you want a totally new character, or change some things like hair, etc, you could also do it, of course.

But, if SE decides to give me the option of having the same character (levels and all I will **** do it, ok?)
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#16 Jun 03 2009 at 12:45 AM Rating: Decent
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No, absolutely not. A new game is a new game, and part of the fun is that every one is starting fresh.

If they want to reward veteran FFXI players, maybe allow names to carry over or a title to those who have an active FFXI account, or whatever. Any material advantage in FFXIV that carries over from FFXI would be a bad idea.
#17 Jun 03 2009 at 12:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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No, FFXIV is FFXI V

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#18 Jun 03 2009 at 12:52 AM Rating: Decent
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You two are much into the Monster Hunter mentality. I am a Monster Hunter player and I was really glad to have my tickets to buy the starter equipment more easily but that is not the case. You can't migrate what is not there. Keep all your levels? What if the jobs no longer are called what you were. What if you were a level 75 Samurai and it no longer exists or has been completely reworked looking nothing like it was before. What if all the job traits and skills are now obtained differently and have no relation. What if subjobs no longer exist?

You want to migrate your character and have same looks? What if faces are different? Customization options are completely different like being able to change different body parts. What if server programming of FFXI was not made to be imported. You just cant flip a magic wand and make a ffxi character transform into a ffxiv one. I'm sorry for all of you with level 75 characters wanting to have a reward for your hard work but this simply is a new game where you just have to start over like in every other game.

What about the other players? Don't you consider it unfair having a edge over normal players who never completed much or deleted their characters? Don't we all deserve equal treatment?
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The only way SE can guarantee a 500k player base from day one is if they completely transfer characters from FFXI to FFXIV, if they want to start fresh a lot of people might want to stay in FFXI and FFXIV would need to establish its own playerbase. And, sincerely, from a business standpoint, allowing character transfers is the easiest way out. Besides, FFXIV level cap won't be level 75. And, who is to say FFXIV will have levels at all?

We should simply be able to transfer over our characters, stripped down to naked, if need be, that way we can keep our online selves (if you want a totally new character, or change some things like hair, etc, you could also do it, of course.

But, if SE decides to give me the option of having the same character (levels and all I will **** do it, ok?)


LOL you dont think FF14 will get 500k without help of FFXI player ? Sorry to say that you are dead wrong. Since the launch of FFXI the MMO market have grown tremendously. The problem with FFXI or any other "hardcore" MMO:s is that once you miss the train, meaning you miss the lanuch of the game and want to join the game at a later stage, its already to late. Its really hard to catch up. That is the only reason IMO that FFXI stayed at 500K and stay that way up until today. At this point in time there are many many players that are playing other mmo:s and dont really enjoy themselves, for example wow, aoc, warhammer, lotr, I can make the list long. Lets look at Aion for example, even though that game has no predecessor it obtained 3,5 million subscribers 6 months after its release and only in 2 countires, Korea and China. If we go by this, FF14 will have no problem getting serveral million players just in the first month NOT counting the small 500k users from FFXI. So no, FF14 doesnt need help from FFXI to boost its playerbase but you are welcome and start fresh from scratch.

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If they have character migration I'll throw up, then sob, then tell SE "I quit you!", then go back to work like the silly little peon I am. (after I ***** some more about what a terrible idea that is)

I'm all for early name reservation or something like that, but char migration would handicap this game socially, imo. When I moved from Rallos Zek to Vazaelle in EverQuest, starting on a fresh server was an extremely humbling and yet eye-opening experience. I think everyone deserves an MMO experience like that.

Imagine XPing for 25 levels with no possibility of a raise at all, simply because no one is of that level yet. Later, maybe a small handful on the entire server can raise you. It makes you better players.
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yes i was one of those that miss the train for FFXI back then and i didn bother to sign on later as the graphic was too old by the time i knew of the mmo and everyone was so high lvl already its no more fun.i went from mmo to mmo but i always hope they will release a new updated version of Final Fantasy hehe

this time round i plan to sign up from day one and get my whole clan to join me :)

in the meantime i will play Aion as well as other mmo while i wait for this ^^
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OmegaTyrant wrote:
The only way SE can guarantee a 500k player base from day one is if they completely transfer characters from FFXI to FFXIV, if they want to start fresh a lot of people might want to stay in FFXI and FFXIV would need to establish its own playerbase. And, sincerely, from a business standpoint, allowing character transfers is the easiest way out. Besides, FFXIV level cap won't be level 75. And, who is to say FFXIV will have levels at all?

We should simply be able to transfer over our characters, stripped down to naked, if need be, that way we can keep our online selves (if you want a totally new character, or change some things like hair, etc, you could also do it, of course.

But, if SE decides to give me the option of having the same character (levels and all I will **** do it, ok?)


From a business standpoint, allowing people to start the game at 75 instead of spending all the time grinding through the levels is a horrible idea. Under no circumstances would SE be stupid enough to miss out on all the months that need to be spent levelling up a character.

It is also a bad idea from a game point of view as we all know what happens when you get someone buy a character at 75 - you get a really poor, clueless player with a high level character and no idea how to play the game.

And we don't even know if FFXI characters will even be compatible with FFXIV. We don't know how the skill-ups will work or if they will be exactly the same ones for example. There is simply no way that characters will be able to transfer over levelled in any way.

As for transferring over characters naked, reduced to level 1, we don't even know if the races are the same and they will certainly have different character models if they are. The Galkas don't even have the same body parts (if they are Galkas).

So if you have a decked out level 75 Galka in FFXI, complete with a basic PS2 character model and tail and it gets transferred over to FFXIV as a naked level 1 character with a PS3 makeover and different body parts, I don't really see how that is 'transferring over'. It's a completely new character.

All that's the same is the name which is basically the same as signing up to a new game with the same name.
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Character migration (in my opinion) would take most of the fun out of the new game. Think back to the very first day you started FFXI and remember how it felt:

I remember getting lost in bastok markets and loving it. I saw people from all over the world (both Vanadiel and Earth) everywhere around me, and I /waved at everyone!

I remember zoning out to gustaberg and feeling utterly naked (literally), and yet the excitement was overwhelming. The whole world free to explore, and I could go anywhere and do whatever I wanted. Exploration was everything to me.

I remember engaging my first enemy (it was a bee) and being completely lost in the battle system. Hitting LvL2 was a monumental occasion!

I remember being in my very first party, and how amazing the teamwork was; It was exciting for me to see different races and jobs working together, and yes, sometimes I still get that feeling but it's very very rare unfortunately.
People forget (or just don't get it) that this game is teamwork based at it's core; Us VS. Them, not Me VS. You VS. Them

I want that new feeling back again!
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Character migration (in my opinion) would take most of the fun out of the new game. Think back to the very first day you started FFXI and remember how it felt:


Actually it would be not so hard to accomplish, if the dev team decide to set the level cap to be Lv999
and the maximum hp/mp status to be 9999 or even 99999

the lv75 chars from XI would only have slight advances to start out
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#25 Jun 03 2009 at 2:40 AM Rating: Good
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Why should you be able to transfer a character from one game to a completely different one? I don't get it am I missing something? If you've worked so hard on your FFXI character that's great stay with it, I still don't see how that gives anyone the right to transfer it to a completely different game, I think it's wishful thinking and not gonna happen.
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seriously, why even spend 60 dollars and do all the installs just to do the same **** in hd? its a waste.

im freakin' pumped thinking about the new experiences that awaits me in 14, if i wanted to be lv 75 id just stay on 11. man, i hated trying to get a pt on mnk in the old days, but the experience was awesome! slowly getting stronger, doing G1, preping for maat....
it would be a waste to skip all that!
man! im getting this day one lol cant wait! doing that install, passing out cuz it took to long lol thinking of a name.. man good times...
the most id want would be like a reference to my ffxi main, a npc or my ff11 guy as my fellowship npc thingy
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#27 Jun 03 2009 at 4:58 AM Rating: Good
Why does everyone seem to think that FFXIV is going to just be a clone of FFXI with better graphics and different names. Look back on the FF series. When do they ever follow a pattern in their game design. They don't. They take the same few staple features (Moogles, Chocobos, Cid, some mobs) and design a whole new game. A new world, new characters, new battle system. I don't see any reason to believe that FFXIV will be any different.

In a whole new game, completely unrelated to FFXI except that they're both part of the FF franchise and MMORPGs, it would range from stupid to impossible to have character migration.

If you want to start the game with a fully leveled character, wait a few months and buy one. I personally wouldn't give up the chance to start over for anything, especially starting fresh with thousands of other players starting fresh too.

If it's a good game you'll have many years of being an experienced (and usually jaded) player. You only get to be a clueless newb once.
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#28 Jun 03 2009 at 5:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Seriously, manna, why would you play a new MMORPG if you just want to use charactors for others?

And besides, this games on a whole different planet, ******.
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#29 Jun 03 2009 at 5:58 AM Rating: Decent
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I understand both sides of the coin here.

On one hand, people want new, fresh material, on the other hand, they don't wanna throw away 7 years of work. As soon as the new game comes out, its likely they will stop updateing FFXI at all, which means it will eventually die. No new content, people will have all jobs leveled, etc.

Like i know one of the main reasons i play is because of the people, but i like my character. I like what i am able to do, i like what i have accomplished, the items i have etc. Everything except for the people is going to go away. I know they need to make changes, Not allow it on the PS2, but i doubt i would restart from level 1 on a New MMO if my char got deleted.

If they could have some way of preserving some part of your char for you, i dunno how, like being able to "change" to the FFXI char in a certain area and do some things, and offer the feeling that the char is Still there. But if its gone totally, i don't think i would want to continue.

Thats just my opinion tho.
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#30 Jun 03 2009 at 6:09 AM Rating: Decent
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NO,NO, NO. New MMORPG needs a new start. It needs to be new and fresh with everyone a noob.

An interesting thought is this. IF, and i mean if, Eorzea is apart of vana'diel perhaps a why to bring your FFXI character over that acts as a fellowhship npc and you can use your ffxiv character to ffxi to be the same.
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#31 Jun 03 2009 at 6:14 AM Rating: Decent
Is it me, or is everyone else also overlooking the simple fact that any gear you would port over, would have to have a method of in which you could obtain it... Meaning they would have to import every single piece of gear from FFXI.

Umm.... Boooring.. new game, same gear, even if they add new pieces, seriously.

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This... what if the stat system is totally different? What if the normal level 1 gear has +4 str etc...


And cmon people, FFXI is and will remain profitable for some time after this new MMO comes out. Did nobody else read the report on how the general costs and expenses SE has for FFXI dropped by 400%? they still have a lot of money to make off of the original online epic.
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#32 Jun 03 2009 at 7:15 AM Rating: Decent
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New game, new characters.

Sorry, but I think everyone should start from scratch. If you wanna keep playing FF11 you are free to do so...
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Only way transfers are going to work is just getting some kind of novelty item that you start with. Maybe a goofy little mandragora hat, or something. Most MMO's that had a predecessor in some way, have something to show that you've played the older games. I personally think it'd be neat if they have the trophy system that Warhammer has. Maybe you could get a trophy for each job you have to 75 in FFXI, and it'll just be a little badge you can wear on your character.
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#34 Jun 03 2009 at 9:27 AM Rating: Decent
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I think they should do it BUT!
1) Bust you down to lv 1 again. Call it an effect of spacial displacement if you want your a noob again live with it!

2)Keep all previous titles from quests and missions done (I mean why not I would like to be a ****** hero again lol)

3)Only transfer certain pieces of gear like items gained from fan fest and the like, things that wont break the game but would at least show your an old timer (could even strip them of their abilities.

4) let you change races and names. yeah I know "why not just make a new character then?" cause I for one picked a mithra cause they were cool looking if there had been a male version I probly would of picked it then.

And finally give you a unique item or title to show that your a transferred character again not game breaking but a perk to those that have shown their loyalty over the years.
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Besides the fact that FFXIV is not FFXI-2 and therefore will have different storage capacities, gear, job systems etc... FFXI is an old game, it's top heavy in levels and has an imbalanced economic class structure. Why would you want to start a new off with old game problems?

Personally I wouldn't even want name transfers. In order to do that they would have to reserve all the names occupied in FFXI. Have you tried making a new character lately? Every name you try using is already taken by someone's mule. You want you same name get on early, you want your same character keep playing XI.
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Did you get angry when you popped in Mario 2 and had to go all the way through the game to win instead of just playing the last level?

When FFVIII came out, were you sad that you did not have all the uber materia and levels you worked so hard for in FFVII?

I don't go to a new job and say, hey - I worked 40 hours a week for 5 years at my last job... do you think you can pay me for all that time plus what I'm about to do here?
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From SE Q&A at E3:

" A: The game is completely different. There will not be any XI character transfers to XIV. However, the character design is familiar and XI players will be able to create a similar character. "


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"that's true, but that kind of makes me wonder if I should keep playing FFXI now or stop and wait for this game...lol"

That's how I feel too... I'm excited about the new game but now I'm left thinking "why should I spend 4 hrs a day doing end game ls events?". Might as well just merit and beat on beasties until the new game comes out.

Also siked its coming out for the PS3 - you know the graphics are gonna be SICK!
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