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#1 Jun 04 2009 at 10:07 AM Rating: Good
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The similarity of the races in FFXIV, combined with the Sci-Fi elements they're apparently adding, makes me have a theory that Eorzea is distant-future Vana'diel. Maybe after civilization was nearly wiped out, and the story leads you to finding out the history of the species and the world.

It's probably wrong, but it's interesting to consider. Keeping the same races with minor changes, and sticking them randomly on an entirely new world seems a little odd considering how story-based FF's are.

Edited, Jun 4th 2009 2:09pm by TravestyOfAsura
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#2 Jun 04 2009 at 12:35 PM Rating: Good
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I think the development staffs intention is to say that the only connection between Vana'diel and Eorzea's races are that of actors playing in different films.

Keeping the same races with minor changes, and sticking them randomly on an entirely new world seems a little odd considering how story-based FF's are.

It's really not odd at all. It's just plain fan service. The FFXI races may be new staples to the online FF formula but Square has shown that it doesn't mind using facets of the same world to tell completely new stories

For Example:

Chocobos
Moogles
Cid

In almost each new iteration of these elements in the FF series they have their own distinctive personality traits while still retaining similarities with past FF games.

I think this is how we are intended to see the similarities of the races. On the other hand, I don't think the development staff really minds what your imagination brings fourth. I would argue that they probably like that.

For Example:
The Galka in Eorzea seem not to have any tails. If you search FFXIclopedia for Rusty Tail Cutter you'll get a description hinting at a ghost story involving Galkas and their lopped off tails. This was also a Sunbreeze event only item, so it's safe to say that it isn't completely needed to understand the storyline. Again, while this may hint at a connection between the two worlds, I think that the development staff would rather that you just let your own imagination run wild rather than demand storyline cohesion between the two worlds. It's frustrating to both the player and creator. This is probably why they seem to be hardlining the point that FFXI and FFXIV are two different worlds.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Rusty_Tail_Cutter
#3 Jun 04 2009 at 1:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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Honestly think you're thinking too deeply about the fact that the same races are involved. SE already addressed it:
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While you may have noticed that some of the same type of races appeared in the trailer, the world of FFXIV is different from FFXI. The reason that we made the races similar to the FFXI races is so FFXI players could choose a similar type of race in the new game. For example, in movies, you might have an actor that plays many different roles. Please, think of it that way.

Just like our moogles, chocobos, cactuars, Bahamut, Shiva, etc., didn't migrate from the world of another FF game, nor is Vana'diel the distant future of a world from another FF game. Same actors, different movie.

For all we know, the Galkas might not even be called Galkas, the Mithras might not be called Mithras, and so on.
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#4 Jun 04 2009 at 1:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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I believe SE said somewhere they were using the same basic models with some changes (like galkas with no tails) because it's what we are used too. People who want to come to FFXIV but want something they are familiar with can make a character close to the way theirs was, or choose something totally new. It's like a security blanket in a new big scary world that people know nothing about.

But since they are being so 'yes we will have the 5 races but we won't say if we have more coming' I'm hoping that means 1-2 new races will be introduced... but I won't hold my breath.
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#5 Jun 04 2009 at 1:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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I see what you're saying and I think it would be a cool idea.
It reminds me of the FF7 and FF10/-2 theory, that the devs even backed.

People theorized that the world of FF7 was actually the same as FF10's Spira. This is because there were strong references to the character Shinra using the planets energy to bring the world back to its former self, but goes on to say it would take more then a life time to pull off. Then obviously Shinra electric power company is sucking the life out of the planet.


Although this tie-up is small and full of plot holes, I think the link in FFXI and FFXIV could at least be this small, it would just be awesome to have that thing in the back of the head knowing that I'm still in Vana'diel and this is what has became of the world, after everyone has gone.
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#6 Jun 04 2009 at 1:36 PM Rating: Good
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I think my theory is probably wrong, but it would open the door for some cool story elements. Imagine the main quest line following the revelation that there was this huge civilization thousands of years ago, called Vana'diel, before the Eorzea that everyone knows in the FFXIV world. They could even have whatever wiped Vana'diel out return as the main evil entity for FFXIV.
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#7 Jun 04 2009 at 1:45 PM Rating: Good
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They could even have whatever wiped Vana'diel out return as the main evil entity for FFXIV.


Then they could make a time paradox in FFXI/FFXIV! It's in the hands of the players! It'll be a competition between FFXI and FFXIV! Defeat the evil entity in FFXI and FFXIV never happens! Defeat him in FFXIV and the villain responsible for creating the paradox in FFXI never happens! The ultimate "FFXI/FFXIV is dying" war in which the victor terminates the others existence! Only one game can survive - Which side are you on?! *fade to black*

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#8 Jun 04 2009 at 3:50 PM Rating: Good
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but it would open the door for some cool story elements. Imagine the main quest line following the revelation that there was this huge civilization thousands of years ago, called Vana'diel, before the Eorzea that everyone knows in the FFXIV world.

In other words, the same story concept that drove X and XI. Again, let your imagination run wild but I don't think this train of thought will be necessary to enjoy FFXIV.
#9 Jun 04 2009 at 4:03 PM Rating: Good
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Bastok makes a space navy and Eorzea is a world populated by races from Vanadiel.
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#10 Jun 04 2009 at 5:30 PM Rating: Decent
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They also made it clear that the Races aren't actually the same races. Just visually similar.

It's purely an homage to the affection we all have for our FFXI characters. It's gonna ease the move for those who choose to make it, and nothing more.

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