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#1 Jun 05 2009 at 4:00 AM Rating: Default
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Well hello everyone. I am not going to even describe how exited I am for FFXIV as I was like a 12 year old girl in her first Justin Timberlake concert First Row kinda deal when I heard the news. Now Before I go into my in-depth explanation of the two new Races in the LOGO (Yes you can see them in the logo, more on that later) I have to say you must have a deep understanding of all the games in the Tactics series and more specifically Vagrant Story to understand where FFXIV is going with all of its job system, look, feel and most importantly ( and yes to me the selling point) The New Art style.

Lets begin with the Races:

AT LEAST TWO NEW RACES IN THE LOGO CHECK THE LOGO BELOW WITH EXPLANATIONS AND RACES VISIBLE IN THE LOGO.

[IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/xpbpc1.jpg[/IMG]

Now you can see the Moogle clearly in the middle with her ears flapping all over the place, it is so evident its not even funny. More obscure is even the Lizard race right under where the final fantasy letter logo appears. It looks reptilian in nature but also aquatic.

As for the third possible new race it could very well be another lizard or as apparent by the feathers in the back of the possible head a new bird race( Possible horns on head also). Now I can confirm the Moogle is there and the lizard also, the third race im not so sure. As for the circle theory in the logo it is from Tactics Progression in my opinion, as evident by the position of the jobs in The circle its the same as when changing jobs in the tactics games.

I am doing mega research into all my files as to what lies in store for the game but rest assured if it is there I can find it. Enjoy and let the speculation begin !!! Also please post any new info you guys come accross so I can keep researching. In case no one noticed in the official website the mithra has a dancer type outfit next to the horned little guy (Gria maybe?) and the constant weapons over the drawing coupled with the glowing materia or magic is a clue as to what kind of system we will see. Notice most of the subjects in the drawings carry some sort of pouch and potion or materia. Also notice the lizard in the drawing next to the table to the right, if that is not a clue I dont know what is.



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Personally I'm still waiting for the seagul race. As seen in FFXI.
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I lol'd.

Anyway, those things could be anything. The "lizard" is more like a hume.
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i found the book, the fountain, and the boat... i can't seem to find the car, the hat and the paper clip.

seriously, its a logo scrawling and very abstract at that - i'd put more faith in the artwork on the main ff14 page after the trailer. but i will give you this, it is fun to dream.
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Why can't it just be a moogle in the drawing to confirm they are in the game? Why does it have to translate to a playable race?
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i found the book, the fountain, and the boat... i can't seem to find the car, the hat and the paper clip.


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upper left behind the staff. :D
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It's extremely exciting to think that it's possible we'll have races from both Ivalice and Vana'diel. Played a hume in 11 and will defintely be playing something different this time. Gria, Vierra, or Male mithra are my choices if they're available. Having so many race choices will make one **** of a story and an amazing community.
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how is this confirmed? i also lol'd when i read this:

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Yeah, Amano art is incredibly detailed and the original was probably 10 times the size of the mini logo we're seeing . . . it's hard to draw any conclusions from his art when compared to the storyline. For one, thing, SE swears up and down that Altana doesn't actually have any wings, despite the title of the 4th expansion, yet the cover art gives her *drummroll* beautitul orange phoenix wings.

Amano is given a lot of freedom and liberty with his art, so making any assumptions about a FF game based on just the logo is a very bad idea.
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Rate up for the effort.

I look forward to reading about the results of your research. ^^
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That's no moogle, it has hair. The two figures in the center closely resemble taru.

I'm looking at the large version:

http://g.imagehost.org/view/0848/ffxivlogo
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The lizard one on the large image is a bald headed hume with the tattoo on his head. I don't think they are new races here. I see Hume, Galka, Elvaan, Taru and Mithra on that logo and that's all.
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That's no moogle, it has hair. The two figures in the center closely resemble taru.

I'm looking at the large version:

http://g.imagehost.org/view/0848/ffxivlogo


You didn't play Final Fantasy Tactics Advance 2, did you?

Hurdy had hair. Maybe it was a wig... who knows.

http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/thumb/5/58/TA2-Hurdy.jpg/419px-TA2-Hurdy.jpg
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#17 Jun 05 2009 at 9:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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I see a jump button in the logo.
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Really just picturing the OP as a small child with a Sherlock Holmes-style hat and a bubble pipe.

Awesome.
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The only thing I took away from the logo was the number and variety of weapons in it after the announcement they made. That's what makes me think that instead of leveling 'jobs', you will just be leveling 'skills'. Almost like it will be the kind of thing where if you level sword and marksmanship, it will allow you to unlock gunblade types of abilities. /excitement :)
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#21 Jun 05 2009 at 11:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well hello everyone. I am not going to even describe how exited I am for FFXIV as I was like a 12 year old girl in her first Justin Timberlake concert First Row kinda deal when I heard the news. Now Before I go into my in-depth explanation of the two new Races in the LOGO (Yes you can see them in the logo, more on that later) I have to say you must have a deep understanding of all the games in the Tactics series and more specifically Vagrant Story to understand where FFXIV is going with all of its job system, look, feel and most importantly ( and yes to me the selling point) The New Art style.

Lets begin with the Races:

AT LEAST TWO NEW RACES IN THE LOGO CHECK THE LOGO BELOW WITH EXPLANATIONS AND RACES VISIBLE IN THE LOGO.

[IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/xpbpc1.jpg[/IMG]

Now you can see the Moogle clearly in the middle with her ears flapping all over the place, it is so evident its not even funny. More obscure is even the Lizard race right under where the final fantasy letter logo appears. It looks reptilian in nature but also aquatic.

As for the third possible new race it could very well be another lizard or as apparent by the feathers in the back of the possible head a new bird race( Possible horns on head also). Now I can confirm the Moogle is there and the lizard also, the third race im not so sure. As for the circle theory in the logo it is from Tactics Progression in my opinion, as evident by the position of the jobs in The circle its the same as when changing jobs in the tactics games.

I am doing mega research into all my files as to what lies in store for the game but rest assured if it is there I can find it. Enjoy and let the speculation begin !!! Also please post any new info you guys come accross so I can keep researching. In case no one noticed in the official website the mithra has a dancer type outfit next to the horned little guy (Gria maybe?) and the constant weapons over the drawing coupled with the glowing materia or magic is a clue as to what kind of system we will see. Notice most of the subjects in the drawings carry some sort of pouch and potion or materia. Also notice the lizard in the drawing next to the table to the right, if that is not a clue I dont know what is.





I looked closely at the "new races" you saw in the logo (but I used the larger version of the logo available) and I came to these conclusions.

1) The "moogle" you saw in the center is a female Taru, for short for the long hair (the swept up part you thought were ears), her appearance is identical to the taru you pointed out behind her. You can see her actual ears in the larger version of the logo.

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2) The "watery" race on the bottom right hand side is probably the bald hume male with the tattoos, that's just looking straight down so we're seeing the top of his head. You can see his nose from an aerial view on the bottom of his head, indicating we're seeing his head from above. He's holding a lance off to his left, so his body is blocking his arms from view. I would sooner suggest this means that we can customize things like tattoos before jumping the gun by saying it's a new race.

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3) The "lizard/bird" race on the top left is the Elvaan male with the flared out bowl cut, as what I assume you believed was a beak of some sort is his ears. His actual face is looking towards us.

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Definitely see an archer on the left. (yay :D) But.. there's a chocbo head with a spear coming from hehind it? chocobo knight? (kidding)
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MANTHRAS serisously we see them in the Wotg expansion why don't we get to play as them this isn't vanadiel no more new world where they might be common :P
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Yes, this is most certainly concrete information, like the rest of FF artwork.

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Cut the guy some slack, we're ALL going crazy with speculation over things we know nothing about right now.
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We're all not "confirming" new races, though. lol
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Cut the guy some slack, we're ALL going crazy with speculation over things we know nothing about right now.


As said, the OP is trying to treat the information he is giving as official, despite this in reality not being the case at all.
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If that guy you say is holding a gun, then he is going to be in for a serious surprise when it kickbacks and busts his skull in... He's definitely not holding a gun. It looks more like a pipe/flute, but the logo was erased out of a portion of the drawing.
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at first i thought the taru in the middle had moogle ears too but now it looks like its holding a circular throwing weapon..
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at first i thought the taru in the middle had moogle ears too but now it looks like its holding a circular throwing weapon..


Looks like a tambourine to me. Notice the little bells around the outside edge. I'd say that's the bard.

It could be a chakram though.

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If that guy you say is holding a gun, then he is going to be in for a serious surprise when it kickbacks and busts his skull in... He's definitely not holding a gun. It looks more like a pipe/flute, but the logo was erased out of a portion of the drawing.


Given the way it looks though, it does seem like a very 30's stylized depiction of holding a pistol (drawing on some of the older DC Comics images of The Sandman that I had seen in the past), Furthermore, given the fantasy aspect of the game, it's possible that projectile weapons in FFXIV won't produce recoils. I mean it's just too early to tell.
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....it looks like that guy that's holding the "Pistol" seems to be doing the "Egyptian Walk" or something... I dunno, it's just me.

Some things to note:

If you look at the monk, he's got a claw in his right hand, BUT he's also wielding a spear. SE's going "Wink, Wink"

The Tarutaru female that's falling is holding what looks like a loop or a ring. New weapon class?

There's another Tarutaru above her, what looks to be wielding a Rod in his right hand, and a 1 hand axe?

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If that guy you say is holding a gun, then he is going to be in for a serious surprise when it kickbacks and busts his skull in... He's definitely not holding a gun. It looks more like a pipe/flute, but the logo was erased out of a portion of the drawing.


Given the way it looks though, it does seem like a very 30's stylized depiction of holding a pistol (drawing on some of the older DC Comics images of The Sandman that I had seen in the past), Furthermore, given the fantasy aspect of the game, it's possible that projectile weapons in FFXIV won't produce recoils. I mean it's just too early to tell.


However, the rest of the drawing is not done in a 30's stylization, so we can rule that out. And also, I'd imagine the developers are going to build upon what they already know from FFXI which all of their ranged weapons have kickback, even x-bow. I don't think they'd do away with a tiny realistic detail like kickback because it would be less realistic and less dramatic to the viewer.
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In one of the images I saw, I believe it was the banner displayed on the site, there is an image of a cantina like room filled with characters. In the section remaining on display is the image of a small humanoid creature with distinctive Rounded ears and a pair of horns on the top of it's head. Satyr?

http://jp.finalfantasyxiv.com/

Image in Lower left hand corner beside the mithra at the table in the banner image after the Trailer.

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Eh, it's Amano. Honestly, if you look at some of his character sketches for FF7-10, the final characters came out -very- different to what he originally visualised them as. I don't know how much of a hand he had in character design in FFXI, but I'd wager quite little.

I doubt the FFXIV devs went to him and said "Ok, we need you to design a logo, and put an Elvaan Samurai here, a Galka Warrior here, a Moogle here, and a mysterious lizard dude here". He's an artist, he works with concepts. They said "make a logo with a focus on weapons, which looks vaguely like a wheel" (or so they say), and that's what you get.

Good job for looking at the close detail, but I think that in the end, Amano is a concept artist, and the logo represents exactly that.

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We know similair races will be in the game. Did anyone from SE even mention posbible new races? I would like to see a Mog with Katanas! LOL
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Lady Laifierr wrote:
If that guy you say is holding a gun, then he is going to be in for a serious surprise when it kickbacks and busts his skull in... He's definitely not holding a gun. It looks more like a pipe/flute, but the logo was erased out of a portion of the drawing.


Given the way it looks though, it does seem like a very 30's stylized depiction of holding a pistol (drawing on some of the older DC Comics images of The Sandman that I had seen in the past), Furthermore, given the fantasy aspect of the game, it's possible that projectile weapons in FFXIV won't produce recoils. I mean it's just too early to tell.


However, the rest of the drawing is not done in a 30's stylization, so we can rule that out. And also, I'd imagine the developers are going to build upon what they already know from FFXI which all of their ranged weapons have kickback, even x-bow. I don't think they'd do away with a tiny realistic detail like kickback because it would be less realistic and less dramatic to the viewer.


Amano is notorious though for his stylized depictions of individuals, so who knows all the possible sources of inspiration he draws on when he does his work.
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Hint: FFXI has moogles.
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About the only thing interesting in that logo is there are 14 characters, and it isFFXIV
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I am willing to bet Gria could be a new race in this game, if we look at the concept art of everyone in a bar/store, we can see a horned person sitting with a Mithra and an Elvaan.

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I think...

Yeah...


Is that Cait Sith in the logo?! Smiley: tongue
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I found Wally, the dog, the chick Wally.

that prick Waldo

I just couldnt find that ***** wizard.

Or the key.
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Have any of you considered that some of the characters in the logo might have Invisible cast on them, so we can't see them at all?

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Its Yosh*taka Amano art. God knows what is what.

EDIT: WTF? The board censored his name?

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Bump, just because this the funniest thing ive ever read.

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Look in the far lower right corner I can't believe we all missed this.

Not in the circle, but a new job is VERIFIED in the picture, down in the white area.

EDIT: You have to scroll down to see it.

EDIT: Or, since I have premium, I can just post the picture, DUH...

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I want to play, too.

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I want to play, too.

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You missed Speedball right above Shadow. And I can't believe they are including him after the whole Stamford, CT fiasco.

This has Civil War written all over it.
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Anyone else curious as to why the **** there are so many pole arms in this image? Wt dragoons going to be awesome again? lol-pentathrust.
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LMAO guys this is awesome. I even made someones sig woohooo!!!! (I want credit dammit). Keep the jokes comming I am having a blast reading everyone's speculation on the game. By the way I am planning something mega super MEGATON caliber for the forums stay tuned you wont want to miss it.

And as always I wil be doing some mega research into my files and if its there I will find it.

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