Whatever. The title of this thread is Level DOWN, and some of us are saying that there will be no leveling down because there will be no level to lose. Some want to argue semantics, and have only played FFXI and not other MMORPGs to realize the vast array of death penalties that can be inflicted on a character that don't involve EXP loss or leveling down.
There will be a penalty to death, but since there will be no job levels or EXP points towards those job levels, those can not be factored in to the new system of death penalty.
Which is kind of funny, since you think FFXI has a harsh penalty and it's a FFXI mentality that FFXIV should have a harsh one, when if you have played other MMOs, should know and realize losing a level (which can take a while unless you constantly die or die right as you level) is far from harsh.
No one said 'Level Down' should continue to FFXIV, at least I haven't, hence why I personally said it's too soon to say what KIND of penalty should be enacted.
What is with you still saying there won't be levels? It's virtually impossible
to NOT have levels and have a growth system, even if it's not called "Levels", it will still be present, notice how they never said "no more levels", just no more grinding exp for levels as they're getting rid of the exp system and weapons will play a big part in how you develop, which btw, if it's like FFII, it's still basically levels.