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#1 Jun 09 2009 at 12:50 AM Rating: Default
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All of the server's are still up, the population may have dropped some but not that much. There has been no news of this in any way shape or form. I am a hardcore ffxi player, and with this being released in 2010 its gonna kill ffxi, just because it is related to ffxi. Like i said, i am a hardcore ffxi'er , being that if another ff mmorg comes out and it is like ffxi and better, i'll end up goin to that just cus i don't want to be left behind in the beggining run of it all. Also, i guess im not really trying to say that ffxi is going to die persay, but it will have a great impact on ffxi
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#2 Jun 09 2009 at 12:56 AM Rating: Default
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FFXI will not 'die' for various reasons.

The first is that not everyone will be able to afford a PS3 or a PC capable of running it. At the moment, I know tons of people who play FFXI on underspec PCs for that game. Additionally, you are forgetting xbox 360 players. There is a big chance FFXIV will come out on the 360 soon after release, but until then, those players will continue with XI.

I also predict that SE will lower the subscription fees on FFXI slightly as a way of keeping people on both games. A lot of people will be doubtful of that (actually I am too), but at present, it seems like the logical thing to do if FFXIV becomes popular.

Lastly, SE have been saying over and over, before and after this game was announced, that if people continue to play FFXI, they will continue to support it.
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#3 Jun 09 2009 at 12:56 AM Rating: Default
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The low to mid game in FFXI is dying, while endgame is still flourishing. But SE just can't get enough new players to make low game work anymore.. Level sync was brilliant but without it we'd be in big trouble. And that's just a band-aid too.
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All of the server's are still up, the population may have dropped some but not that much. There has been no news of this in any way shape or form. I am a hardcore ffxi player, and with this being released in 2010 its gonna kill ffxi, just because it is related to ffxi. Like i said, i am a hardcore ffxi'er , being that if another ff mmorg comes out and it is like ffxi and better, i'll end up goin to that just cus i don't want to be left behind in the beggining run of it all. Also, i guess im not really trying to say that ffxi is going to die persay, but it will have a great impact on ffxi


The amount of former FFXI players, that want to return to a new FF MMORPG, hibernating in WoW right now is huge...

And if you're not done with FFXI you could always join FFXIV later. Nothing is forcing you to switch (at all) at the release date of FFXIV.
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#5 Jun 09 2009 at 1:13 AM Rating: Decent
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1) It's FFXIV, not FFIV. FFIV has already been released. With a remake, even.
2) FFXIV is not related to FFXI. If you read the interviews, you'd know that.
3) SE plans to keep making content for FFXI so long as there's a playerbase to make the content for. Odds are a lot of people are going to prefer staying in FFXI for various reasons, so there will still be a playerbase even if it does dwindle a lot. Keep in mind there are many servers that can be merged together, so you wouldn't notice the difference at all. Everyone thought WoW would kill FFXI, and it didn't. Everyone thought Warhammer would kill FFXI, and it didn't. FFXIV will have an impact on FFXI, sure, but FFXI has peaked already, so its definitely not too early for FFXIV's release.
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#6 Jun 09 2009 at 1:29 AM Rating: Default
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ok im going to try and clarify what i tried to get acrossed in my previous post, i think SE is releasing FFiv way too soon. Im not saying ffiv will not be good or anything like that, im just sayin in a term "why squeeze the juice of a new lemon when the old one still has juice?"
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#7 Jun 09 2009 at 1:45 AM Rating: Decent
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It doesn't have that much juice left. Is it too soon? No. FFXI isn't attracting many new customers. Its not too soon either sony released eq2 in 2004 5 years after eq1. FFXI will have 8 years by the time XIV hits.

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It doesn't have that much juice left. Is it too soon? No. FFXI isn't attracting many new customers. Its not too soon either sony released eq2 in 2004 5 years after eq1. FFXI will have 8 years by the time XIV hits.


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ok im going to try and clarify what i tried to get acrossed in my previous post, i think SE is releasing FFiv way too soon. Im not saying ffiv will not be good or anything like that, im just sayin in a term "why squeeze the juice of a new lemon when the old one still has juice?"


They will simply be working on both games. It's not like SE as a whole focuses on one game and ignores the rest. Gaming companies have different "teams" that work on different games, for example, Funcom is working on a new MMO called The Secret World, while Age of Conan was just released a year ago. It's possible because it's a brand new team working on TSW, while the Age of Conan team are still focusing on Age of Conan. I have little doubt they'll be able to successfully pull in revenue from both games upon release of The Secret World, and the Age of Conan playerbase won't be effected. In this same way, SE will have different teams, one working on FFXI, and another working on FFXIV. They won't discourage playing FFXI in any way. FFXIV will just simply be another MMO in a long list of MMOs out there for FFXI to compete with.
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The amount of former FFXI players, that want to return to a new FF MMORPG, hibernating in WoW right now is huge...


I am one of those players.
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The amount of former FFXI players, that want to return to a new FF MMORPG, hibernating in WoW right now is huge...

Oh hi there, talking about me behind my back?
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The amount of former FFXI players, that want to return to a new FF MMORPG, hibernating in WoW right now is huge...


I am one of those players.


I'm a former XI, but I never picked up another mmorpg. Oh, I tried a few, but it just wasn't the same.

XI, to me, had that perfect balance of charm and seriousness that I adored, and I expect nothing less from XIV.
#13 Jun 09 2009 at 2:32 AM Rating: Decent
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I think they are releasing it at the perfect time. FFXI is on a decline. I believe at least 90% of FFXI players will try FFXIV when it comes out. Even though they say the games are separate most people consider it the next step rather than starting something new.
The bad thing about the timing is that you will have FFXIII, FFXIII versus, and FFXIV all coming out within 45 days of each other. Thats just dumb for SE, they are competing with themselves.
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#14 Jun 09 2009 at 2:36 AM Rating: Decent
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FFXIII, FFXIII versus, and FFXIV all coming out within 45 days of each other


Huh? We don't know an exact release date of FFXIV at all. All we know is it will be in 2010, probably late 2010, whereas FFXIII is coming out in the spring.
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#15 Jun 09 2009 at 2:52 AM Rating: Good
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If i remind correctly FFIV got releases back in 1992

FFXIV has nothing to do with offline FFs lol, and you know, FFXIII comes out this year in japan, and that's their main market, plus we don't know a date about versus XIII.

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Eighteen years ago is too early?
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hmm....or typing the letter X is that difficult?

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#18 Jun 09 2009 at 4:30 AM Rating: Good
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I think OP has a problem along the lines of this:

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XIV isn't coming out too early. Like someone else said XI will have been out for 8 years when XIV comes out. XI isn't going to die, yes some servers will probably be merged but that doesn't mean it won't run for another 2+ years after.


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I'm a former XI, but I never picked up another mmorpg. Oh, I tried a few, but it just wasn't the same.

XI, to me, had that perfect balance of charm and seriousness that I adored, and I expect nothing less from XIV.


I'm in the same exact position, can't wait for XIV :)

Edited, Jun 9th 2009 8:31am by mpmaley
#19 Jun 09 2009 at 4:37 AM Rating: Good
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Mpmaley wrote:
I think OP has a problem along the lines of this:


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"Dynamis Lance O" "Gae assail 5/61"


XIV isn't coming out too early. Like someone else said XI will have been out for 8 years when XIV comes out. XI isn't going to die, yes some servers will probably be merged but that doesn't mean it won't run for another 2+ years after.


Maley beat me to it.
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#20 Jun 09 2009 at 5:57 AM Rating: Decent
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FFXIV has been in the works for about 5 years now. It's a surprise it wasn't out sooner than 2010. FFIV however, was released in a different form this past week or so. So either way it's not too early Smiley: grin
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I can actually see SE doing with FFXI and FFXIV what Sony does with EQ1 and EQ2. Sony still continues to support EQ1, despite the fact that EQ1 will be 10 years old this year (believe it or not) right alongside EQ2. The reason Sony can do this is EQ2 takes place 500 years after EQ1, so in essence they are separate games with each game having it's own world and history. And EQ1 has also become an endgame only kind of game. It's kept going for the diehards that continue to play and so Sony pumps out expansions for those diehards.

It's not too difficult to imagine S-E doing something similar. By all accounts and measures FFXI is already well on it's way to becoming an endgame only kind of game. The last content they released for low to mid levels was Scholar and Dancer with the WotG expansion... and that pretty much assumes you have a high level job already otherwise how would you be able to unlock the jobs? Same thing can be said about ToAU. Actually, I'm pretty sure these micro expansions S-E is putting out (starting with Crystalline Prophecy) are probably aimed at the high levels.

Now granted you got Level Sync and Fields of Valor and whatnot... but how many honest to god new players do you see wandering around the dunes with no subjob, crappy gear, and rank 1 or rank 2 with their nation? Chances are you run into a few here and there... but probably not many. Or how about the newbie gardens that are Sarutabaruta, Ronfore, and Gustaburg. How many honest to god new players do you see wandering around those zones with no subjob and the little ! point next to their name which denotes their status as a new player.

No.. FFXIV is coming out at the right time in my opinion. It's time for S-E to do something new. FFXI has had it's run and it's been a very good run. Heck... it's probably got another 3-4 years left in it anyway just with the diehard fans who can't or won't switch. But an MMORPG needs to grow in order to be successful (I'm not just referring to population... I'm referring to game design, content, AND population) and FFXI has finished growing.
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#22 Jun 09 2009 at 9:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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If you could have done anything to assure the destruction of your thread it was leaving out the X in FFXIV in the title of it.
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Eighteen years ago is too early?


Aw, I wanted to do this.

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Firstly , I think FFXIV can't come out early enough, I'm eagerly looking forward to it. :)

But a thought crossed my mind, I've read FFXIII is due out in japan late 2009, in the US Spring 2010 and Europe they are "targeting" 2010.

This could mean up to 6 months later? (if the past is anything to go by).

As we know FFXIV is due out sometime 2010, but is (thankfully) a simultaneous worldwide release.

This could mean, maybe, in Europe, could FFXIV come out before FFXIII?

That would be early. ;)

Edited, Jun 9th 2009 5:41pm by scotchio
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Personally, I am glad they're releasing a new FF online. IMO, FFXI is broken. That's why I left the game. I haven't jumped into another MMO, but FFXIV's PS3 exclusivity may entice me to try it out. The graphics have always kind of sucked for FFXI. Also, I hate having to pay-to-play a game. The loss of PlayOnline is a welcome one.
I own both a XBOX 360 and PS3. It's about time the PS3 gamers got their own bone to chew on, since Microsoft has spent millions to shut PS3 gamers out of some really cool DLC *cough* Fallout 3 DLC *cough* Grand Theft Auto: The Lost and the Damned DLC.
Everyone here is talking about WoW being the MMO to compete with, but I'd like to remind you how frickin cool Bioware's Star Wars MMO looks and sounds with voice acting.
Believe it or not, we're in the next generation of gaming. WoW happens to be stuck in the last generation. The majority of gamers, I believe, are now ready to migrate to the present, rather than wallowing in the past.
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#27 Jun 10 2009 at 11:23 AM Rating: Good
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The amount of former FFXI players, that want to return to a new FF MMORPG, hibernating in WoW right now is huge...


That is me. I'm playing WoW because I can't dedicate enough time to FFXI. I will absolutely be switching to FFXIV to at least try it. Played FFXI for 3years until RL hit me. I'm so excited about XIV.
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It's the perfect time to release it, imo.

FFXI has evolved into a great game over the past few years, as the developers have begun to put WotG-storytelling and ToAU-fun as a priority over CoP-type difficulty and dynamis-like timesinks. They've made the game much easier for the casual player.

However, due to the first few years with all the little annoyances and "wading-through-mud" gameplay (mind you, I always felt proud whenever I got through that mud), they lost a lot of players, and nothing they've really done so far has caused a large enough influx of returning or new players. Even releasing the game to the Xbox360 didn't seem to bring in that many new people.

I would much, much rather see them put as much energy as possible into FFXIV and start fresh, as soon as possible. Besides, there's not THAT much more they can do with XI. It'll be what, 7-8 years old by the time XIV is released? I love the game to death, but I think it'll be nice to move on and have a new community with new players.

(Incidentally, I wonder how long it'll take before people just start calling it FF14 so they don't have to type that X.)
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IMO, It's LATE LOL!
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The amount of former FFXI players, that want to return to a new FF MMORPG, hibernating in WoW right now is huge...


GUILTY!

(except the part about hibernating in WoW. I just couldn't get into it hehe)


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The sooner this game comes out the better. I quit FFXI for WoW because all of my friends left. Secretly though, I've been waiting for the next FF MMO. I quit WoW like 4-5 weeks ago and complained, "if only they made another FF MMO... that's going to be the next and last MMO I try." A few weeks later, it got announced and now I can't wait!
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