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#1 Jun 12 2009 at 12:27 AM Rating: Good
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Anyone else keen on an in-game item shop being implemented?

It will not be items that will alter game balance but more on the aesthetic aspects such as:

Clothing Dyes
- for changing of clothing/armor colors

Hair Dyes
- for changing of hair colors

Hair-Styling Ticket
- that allows you to permantently change your hair-style

Plastic Surgeon Coupon
- that allows you to permantently re-customize your face

Themed Clothing Sets
- Opaline/Benedight or other themed clothing sets thats has no impact on actual gameplay

Costumes
- that turns your apperance to that of various monsters but has otherwise no other effects on gameplay

Accessories
- sun-glasses, head-wear and other shiny things that have no impact on actual gameplay

Of course, no one has to spend money on these items if they choose not to as these are all cosmetic rather than functional.
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#2 Jun 12 2009 at 12:30 AM Rating: Good
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Other games use similar concepts. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be implemented in FFXIV if there was enough support for the idea.

Edit: Scratch that...I missed the real money component. No, I don't see it happening, and when you've got barber shops in WoW that let you change appearance for no "real money" fee, armor dyes in LOTRO that let you change the color of your armor for no "real money" fee, and any of the other similar options available in other games that require only game currency to make use of, to append a real fee to it in FFXIV would make a lot of people very angry on principle alone.

Edited, Jun 12th 2009 1:55am by AureliusSir
#3 Jun 12 2009 at 12:50 AM Rating: Default
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HalfLight wrote:
Anyone else keen on an in-game item shop being implemented?

It will not be items that will alter game balance but more on the aesthetic aspects such as:

Clothing Dyes
- for changing of clothing/armor colors

Hair Dyes
- for changing of hair colors

Hair-Styling Ticket
- that allows you to permantently change your hair-style

Plastic Surgeon Coupon
- that allows you to permantently re-customize your face

Themed Clothing Sets
- Opaline/Benedight or other themed clothing sets thats has no impact on actual gameplay

Costumes
- that turns your apperance to that of various monsters but has otherwise no other effects on gameplay

Accessories
- sun-glasses, head-wear and other shiny things that have no impact on actual gameplay

Of course, no one has to spend money on these items if they choose not to as these are all cosmetic rather than functional.


Other games have it either threw crafting (a crafter will make those changes for you) or simple threw a tool that you do it yourself for free incorporated in your UI. I don’t see any point of PAYING real money for it since this is not a F2P game.
#4 Jun 12 2009 at 1:23 AM Rating: Default
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sounds to much like everquest.
#5 Jun 12 2009 at 1:50 AM Rating: Decent
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I would love to see most of these options as the result of crafting. The only one I disagree with is dramatic changes to how your character looks (ie redoing any customization options in character creation outside of hair). Maybe, MAYBE, as something in alchemy, but I'm still unsure. I just think your character design is part of your online identity in-game, and keeping it similar is part of that whole sense of immersion thing.

Also, I hate to say this, but if you open the issue of buyable services, they need to be comparable to other games, which likely means including name changes and realm switching as part of it, two things I disagree with because they are disruptive to the community.
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#6 Jun 12 2009 at 5:47 AM Rating: Good
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I think small appearance changes should definitely be an in-game crafting thing, rather than something a player purchases with real money. I don't think you should ever be able to change your characters race/gender/face. However, hair, accessories, skin tone, etc. should all be a go.
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#7 Jun 12 2009 at 5:54 AM Rating: Good
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I'm fairly certain we will see more flexibility in this game as far as appearance. That was a top gripe of XI for a very long time, to the point where we had polls and heated debates about what should and should not be allowed as far as cosmetic changes. Everyone agreed mostly that changes that were purely cosmetic should be allowed.

Every time it was brought up though, SE mainly stated that the limitations of the current systems disallowed it. Of course we all thought that was ********* but now they no longer have that excuse and since it's something that is fairly simple to implement from the start there is no reason why they wouldn't have it.

Real money though? Go jump in a lake.
#8 Jun 12 2009 at 6:24 AM Rating: Good
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Maldavian wrote:
Other games have it either threw crafting (a crafter will make those changes for you) or simple threw a tool that you do it yourself for free incorporated in your UI.

The last time I threw a tool, it broke my TV. ^.~


Regarding cosmetic changes, I'd like to see more of a system where the appearance of gear is independent of its stats. This would encourage a lot more personalization, rather than have dozens of characters all running around in the same outfit. One way I can see of implementing this is have armor sets with minimal to no stats, and instead place the stat increases on weapons and accessories.

That and hairstyles. Definitely hairstyles. And tattoos... >.>;

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#9 Jun 12 2009 at 6:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Some of that stuff is good, like the hair and dyes. But no in a cahs shop. They should be done through crafting or a gil shop, like WoW's barbershop. It also provides for a nice gil sink to take some gil out of the game.
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#10 Jun 12 2009 at 6:55 AM Rating: Decent
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One way I can see of implementing this is have armor sets with minimal to no stats, and instead place the stat increases on weapons and accessories.

You'd need an awful lot of accessory slots then, or else you're really limiting how to grow your stats. It also means less gear to go for, which isnt really a good thing.
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#11 Jun 12 2009 at 9:32 AM Rating: Good
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One cool feature that also needs to be implemented is the transfer of stats. What this mean is that you can transfer stats from one item to another if they are of the same type. For example I have this level 2 shield that looks really awesome.

Fast forwarding further in the game I get a shield that’s level 100, uber in stats but not as good looking as the level 2 shield. So I should somehow be able to transfer the stats between the 2 items, basically switching the stats between the two shields.

This way I can always equip the gear that I think looks good, with the best stats that I have gotten so far.

I think this should also be through crafting, and of course this can be applied to every piece of gear that you have.
#12 Jun 12 2009 at 9:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Only the change of appearance should cost money...the rest are normal features in p2p MMOs these days and I would expect it to be as such in FFXIV. Otherwise we are just being robbed.
#13 Jun 12 2009 at 11:24 AM Rating: Decent
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If I could do it all over again, I would have chosen Hairstyle 2 or 3 for Mithra... I chose the Red version of Hair 5 (short with middle part) that is so popular, usually in white. I don't feel as if my character was really "different" in terms of identity other than my name.

I really wish there were a few things we could do to establish a better identity, or at least a way to change your appearance in FFXI (have these people never heard of haircuts or styling?). Yes, EQ did it first, but there are a ton of people who wouldn't mind trying out a different hairstyle or tribal tatoo art or something once in a while in FF without resorting to a 3rd party software hack to do it.
#14 Jun 12 2009 at 11:50 AM Rating: Good
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sounds to much like everquest.
So? Thats not a valid reason not to include something. If we decided to remove all aspects of other mmos from any mmo we would be left with a black screen. Lets take out spells and swords and mounts and quests and classes because thats all in everquest too. This rationale makes no sense to me.

As to the op. No I am not spending a monthly fee and then have to spend more real life money to get features included standard for in game money in other p2p mmos.
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#15 Jun 12 2009 at 11:55 AM Rating: Decent
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No thanks, there's no personality if we can change those things, atleast, hair and such

Edited, Jun 12th 2009 3:55pm by Squallido
#16 Jun 12 2009 at 11:57 AM Rating: Decent
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No personality if you can change your hair? Huh? Have you had the same hair cut your whole life? Granted, I have, but that's not the norm.
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