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#1 Jun 22 2009 at 1:56 PM Rating: Good
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How open to RPing in FFXIV are you?
Yes, Always up for it. :5 (33.3%)
Willing to give it a try. :5 (33.3%)
No idea what you're talking about. :1 (6.7%)
Not my cup of tea. :3 (20.0%)
Keep your RPish ways away from me you wierdo! :1 (6.7%)
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I wasn't seeing much mention of the topic, thought I would probe a bit :P.

For those who don't know what online RPing is, The simplest explination would be acting as your character would, immersing yourself in the world instead of worrying about lvls and leet crap.

There are many discorces on RPing out there and what it is/means.. I do not mean the twits that run around speaking with the thee's and thows, if the NPCs don't talk that way it's just silly to think your character should.


Like I said, just kind of gauging the comunity.

Edit: *Pokes poll trying to get it to work.*

Edited, Jun 22nd 2009 5:58pm by zurinadrg
#2 Jun 22 2009 at 1:58 PM Rating: Good
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Poll doesn't work, so uhh... My answer is
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#3 Jun 22 2009 at 2:01 PM Rating: Good
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To some extent, almost all players role-play, though most only role-play on a passive level.

It is fairly unusual to meet a player who has zero emotional attachment to their character and their character's appearance. Likewise, I find a lot of players even have in the back of their mind, at least some idea of a backstory for their character, even if they don't actively role-play upon it.

Edited, Jun 22nd 2009 6:03pm by Karelyn
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In the traditional sense? I guess I might try...a little bit. I'm not opposed to the idea, but I imagine my hands'll be pretty full as is.
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#5 Jun 22 2009 at 2:10 PM Rating: Decent
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It's too much work to RP. There's a lot of thinking involved, and many times I just want to relax and enjoy the world. You develop your own in-game persona that is slightly different from yourself, simply by playing the game though. So in that sense, I'll RP, but it's not like I'll be trying.
#6 Jun 22 2009 at 2:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Whataru are you all talking aboutaru? Litieie thinks that RPing can be fun butaru kind of annoying ataru times.

Lol but joking aside. It's pretty hard to find true RPers on any game now. It's kind of a dying breed. It's not exactly like a AD&D game where you always know everyone whos playing, in MMOs you're meeting new people and some of them might not take to happily to you RPing. While this should not really effect your fun, it will have an undoubted effect on how you go about the game.
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Tried it in Everquest for PS2 because there was so much of it around, but it gets corny after a while. I didn't see much of it in FFXI when I played, either.
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#8 Jun 22 2009 at 2:33 PM Rating: Decent
All taru's must RP; if your not going to RP, don't be a taru-taru - be a hume and play yourself.
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The RP community will certainly be present in FFXIV just as it is in FFXI (even if it has dwindled in Vana'diel over the years). This time around, we'll likely make plans to get ourselves all on one server, whether it's an official one designated by SE or an unofficial one chosen by us. You'll likely see such planning attempts start up by around September/October, even though it'll be impossible to actually designate a server until the game is actually out and server names are known. Currently, it's just too soon to start gathering us all together. And even after we hardcore RPers have been gathered together and designated a central RP server for ourselves, we certainly won't all be in one giant guild. Some of our styles and rules regarding RP are very different in some circumstances. However, this won't stop us from at least being on the same server so we can be more at home and worry less about the "lolRP" comments.
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#10 Jun 22 2009 at 2:36 PM Rating: Good
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Litie wrote:
It's pretty hard to find true RPers on any game now. It's kind of a dying breed. It's not exactly like a AD&D game where you always know everyone who is playing.

The way I see it, leave the deep and meaningful structured roleplaying for the tabletop games.

MMOs are, and will likewise always be, more of a hindrance than a help when it comes to roleplaying.

ZarikOfSylph wrote:
The RP community will certainly be present in FFXIV just as it is in FFXI (even if it has dwindled in Vana'diel over the years). This time around, we'll likely make plans to get ourselves all on one server, whether it's an official one designated by SE or an unofficial one chosen by us. You'll likely see such planning attempts start up by around September/October, even though it'll be impossible to actually designate a server until the game is actually out and server names are known. Currently, it's just too soon to start gathering us all together. And even after we hardcore RPers have been gathered together and designated a central RP server for ourselves, we certainly won't all be in one giant guild. Some of our styles and rules regarding RP are very different in some circumstances. However, this won't stop us from at least being on the same server so we can be more at home and worry less about the "lolRP" comments.

I would join that server in a heartbeat.

Edited, Jun 22nd 2009 6:40pm by Karelyn
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#11 Jun 22 2009 at 2:43 PM Rating: Good
I'm not so hopeful that RP will get its own server, but it should have one. Then again, the RP community will carry on with or without one in various capacities I'm sure.
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#12 Jun 22 2009 at 3:02 PM Rating: Good
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What's odd is that I haven't RPed in like 8 years, and never did at all in FFXI, but I kinda want to have my own little RP going in my head for FFXIV.

I know it'll end up just like FFXI and pretty much all the other MMOs out there today. RP will be be anywhere from non-existant to extremely rare. So I don't expect to be RPing with anybody. However, what I do want is to name my character in accordance to the Eorzea/Haiderin's naming culture, and to have a general idea of who my character is and his general background.

In FFXI this would be as simple as naming a male Tarutaru something like "Torul-Barul" and just keeping in your head something like "He's an orphan born during the Crystal War whose family was killed by the Yagudo. He was adopted and raised by a Mithra warrior in Mhaura." And that's about it, just to give the character an identity.

That way, when I see the cutscenes, not only does my name actually sound reasonable when the NPCs say it, but I get the idea that my little dude isn't some generic placeholder but an actual character like in a single player RPG. What's more, I can say things like ********** you Yagudo, you blew it all up! **** you all! **** you all to ****!"

But, I really missed the boat for that in FFXI. My character's name doesn't fit the world's setting at all so it sounds kind of awkward in cutscenes, and he's always been just a placeholder. In FFXIV I'll try to make my character special, if just for me, so the cutscenes are that much more enjoyable.
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#13 Jun 22 2009 at 3:17 PM Rating: Default
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Here is one of the greatest RP I have seen in WoW. Making a speech before killing a boss, it’s really good ;D

http://files.filefront.com/Muru+Speechmp3/;13833943;/fileinfo.html
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I will role play how my character is, I found myself acting more silly when playing Taru, more serious when playing Galka, and of course more slutty when playing Mithra! I kid I kid... but seriously
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This time around I WILL be finding an RP shell/server/whatever. I ADORE rp and on odin it is impossible to do so. Been in rp communities for 2 decades, FFXI is the first job i havn't, and mostly that is why I got sick of XI when i got settled into endgame. What I hope is that quests make even the average player think about their character not as an extension of their e-peen but as a rogue, cleric, whatever of this new world.

Anyway, my answer is DEFINITELY YES PLEASE GIMME :)
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#16 Jun 22 2009 at 6:10 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm glad to see such a positive responce, it would be realy nice if they gave us an RP server..

Basicly lack of RP is the only reason I left XI, a few people to sit and RP with from time to time would have realy broken up the mental drag of leveling. But after the loss of Sizematters from Valfore, and most of it's RPers going to the wind, watching MithraPride bleed players sucked the will grind out of me.. *sigh* I did try to look for more RPers but they had all vanished or given up.

I do hope they give us a server or at least a few in game tools like cloathing other than armor and a few holiday outfits.. being able to bring people into whatever they replace the Mog House with would be great too.

I could go on with what I want to see but I'm pretty sure it's nothing new ;P
#17 Jun 22 2009 at 6:34 PM Rating: Good
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zurinadrg wrote:
I'm glad to see such a positive responce, it would be realy nice if they gave us an RP server..

If it's anything like the RP Servers on WoW, ultimately there would not be much RP that occurred on them. Then again, WoW has something like 15 RP servers, but could fit the entire RP population on a single server.

The nice thing, at least, is that the RP servers tend to have a higher average maturity level, even though RP doesn't occur very often. This doesn't mean you don't still have those kids running around making **** jokes, but at least it occurs less often. And you can always turn off the trade channel :/
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I would hope it would be less like the RP servers in WOW and more like the one Vanguard had *sighs* it was a good comunity till SoE killed it.
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I briefly joined an RPing LS in FFXI but the people weren't very friendly towards new RPers and didn't feel like reviewing basics. So I left that scene pretty quickly. However, I'm willing to give it another go. Thinking up a back story for my new character would be fun. :)
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#20 Jun 22 2009 at 8:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Probably not. The most I get into role-playing is through bodily movements, emotes and when I'm just doing something solo.

Did it all the time in FFXI, but not on WoW.

Just shows you how much more I liked my character in XI than WoW. Much more of a personal attachment. And that's why I can't wait for this game. I'm sure the same thing will happen.



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Edited, Jun 23rd 2009 12:37am by dragoonberries
#21 Jun 22 2009 at 10:49 PM Rating: Good
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I'll only RP the same way I do in my irc channel. To goof off. Using emotes, making fun of galka and elvaan, etc are all forms of roleplay, in a way. We're all controlling avatars (not toons if you say toons I will rip your head off)
that represent ourselves, and that is roleplaying.


But if you mean in terms of full-blown AD&D Roleplaying, no.

That's what I have a D&D group for, not MMOs. Too many people, too many bad roleplayers, too many restrictions for any really serious roleplaying. This goes for pretty much any MMO.



Edited, Jun 23rd 2009 2:02am by Kirbster
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#22 Jun 22 2009 at 11:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Kirbster wrote:
(not toons if you say toons I will rip your head off)


Thank you! My old WoW guildmates always said toons. It hated it from Day 1 and it never seemed to make sense to me. When I first heard it I wanted to flick myself in the eye...
#23 Jun 22 2009 at 11:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Karelyn wrote:
It is fairly unusual to meet a player who has zero emotional attachment to their character and their character's appearance. Likewise, I find a lot of players even have in the back of their mind, at least some idea of a backstory for their character, even if they don't actively role-play upon it.

Call me fairly unusual. I don't mind at all if others RP, so long as they aren't getting in the way of what the group is doing, but I have zero interest in any sort of RP.
#24 Jun 23 2009 at 12:42 AM Rating: Good
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zurinadrg wrote:
I wasn't seeing much mention of the topic, thought I would probe a bit :P.

For those who don't know what online RPing is, The simplest explination would be acting as your character would, immersing yourself in the world instead of worrying about lvls and leet crap.

There are many discorces on RPing out there and what it is/means.. I do not mean the twits that run around speaking with the thee's and thows, if the NPCs don't talk that way it's just silly to think your character should.


Like I said, just kind of gauging the comunity.


FYI, I don't believe you can poll unless you're a premium member.
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Allegory wrote:
Karelyn wrote:
It is fairly unusual to meet a player who has zero emotional attachment to their character and their character's appearance. Likewise, I find a lot of players even have in the back of their mind, at least some idea of a backstory for their character, even if they don't actively role-play upon it.

Call me fairly unusual. I don't mind at all if others RP, so long as they aren't getting in the way of what the group is doing, but I have zero interest in any sort of RP.


Fixed.

Yeah, I'm an avid roleplayer, but I stick to forums and such. It just does not translate as well in an MMO, sadly... Especially not one like XI, with no RP servers and all the min-maxing kind of stuff going on (or that frankly needs to go on for parties to be able to really do anything).

But I might give it another shot in XIV, especially if SE takes steps to help encourage it in some fashion.
#26 Jun 23 2009 at 1:14 AM Rating: Good
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Well I was kinda a RPer in XI I guess, I acted like a Mithra. Did /purr and /hiss emotes n such. I'm not mad with it though, I do mention real life in game sometimes, proper RPers don't do that do they? :3
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Bravo, sir. Bravo.

Where did this "toon" crap start, anyway? I'd never heard ANYONE refer to a video game character as a "toon" before WoW came out, is that why? Because most of the characters in WoW are so **** goofy looking?
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Where did this "toon" crap start, anyway? I'd never heard ANYONE refer to a video game character as a "toon" before WoW came out, is that why? Because most of the characters in WoW are so **** goofy looking?

"Toons" was long before WoW. I know it is at least as old as EQ as all EQ characters were referred to as toons, and "toon" may predate "char."

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Allegory wrote:
Gatero wrote:
Where did this "toon" crap start, anyway? I'd never heard ANYONE refer to a video game character as a "toon" before WoW came out, is that why? Because most of the characters in WoW are so **** goofy looking?

"Toons" was long before WoW. I know it is at least as old as EQ as all EQ characters were referred to as toons, and "toon" may predate "char."

Edited, Jun 23rd 2009 4:30am by Allegory


Pretty sure "Char" is just the shortened version of Character which is what I used in the 80's to refer to my D&D characters. So probably doesn't get pre-dated by "Toon"

As for Role Playing, Eh, it is an MMO, I don't do much of it, and when I do it, it is all passive, like only going to the Elvaan at AH in Port Jueno (Or where ever), cause Vip is an Elvaan, Elitist Pigs.


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#30 Jun 23 2009 at 2:52 AM Rating: Good
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Allegory wrote:
Gatero wrote:
Where did this "toon" crap start, anyway? I'd never heard ANYONE refer to a video game character as a "toon" before WoW came out, is that why? Because most of the characters in WoW are so **** goofy looking?

"Toons" was long before WoW. I know it is at least as old as EQ as all EQ characters were referred to as toons, and "toon" may predate "char."


You are correct in saying that it is as old or older than EQ. A good four years older. 'Toon' actually originated from The Realm Online, an old 2D MMO (one of the first, actually) in which your avatar was in fact, a 2D cartoonified character. TRO players brought the term to EQ when it was released in 1999.

So there's a nice little history lesson.

It's still a horrible and archaic term though, and I grind my teeth whenever I see it used.

Character, Avatar, (char, avi,) are simply much better terms for what we play today. (Char is a throwback to D&D, I believe, and predates toon by a longshot.)

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So I have an idea that would make everyone happy, 2 new channels RP-local and RP-global. I suck at names, sorry, but make 2 channels on FFXIV that RP'ers can talk in character globally (since per-server there will likely be less than a medium linkshell) and within just the zone. In the event the /global gets too big, that is when a linkshell would be needed, just give the player-base a warning and time to distribute pearls, but at the very least having a separate channel for rp'ers would save the non-rp'ers from having their windows plagued with text emotes and flowery language, while letting rp'ers go on to their heart's content.
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#32 Jun 23 2009 at 5:03 AM Rating: Good
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Kirbster wrote:
We're all controlling avatars (not toons if you say toons I will rip your head off)
that represent ourselves, and that is roleplaying.

While I agree that "toons" is a somewhat annoying internet terminology (Then again, this is coming from a person who refuses to use "lol")... Avatars isn't a really good choice of wording either, especially due to the word having greater previlance with regards to Forum Avatars. Without strong context, the word use can frankly be highly confusing.

Generally, "Character" is probably the best word to use. It sounds mature, and also lacks the ambiguity of "Avatar".
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I was using the word avatar in a literal sense, which is basically 'graphical representations of yourself.' Which is more or less a spot-on description of what you control in an MMO. And as you don't usually fight or craft stuff with a forum avatar, I don't think there'd be much confusion.

They're fairly interchangeable, although I probably use character more.



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I think roleplayers should definitely get their own servers. It enhances the immersion when *everyone* is either doing it or not. It works better for everyone if RPers can get a few designated servers.
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I always RP, of course its not always under the normal sane definition.
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I guess I RPed in the sense that I kept my characters actions in line with his beliefs and I didn't like people asking me questions about... me. But farther than that, I don't think I could keep up for years at a time.
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So here I am in my Moggie House, knocking back an Old Windurst while poring-snoring my way through the latest SJMH*, when suddenly there's this big commotion outside. I look outaru of my window, and there are these Humes, brandishing weapons at each other and arguing. At leasties, I think it was an argumentaru; it sounded like common speechies, but it was all numbers, numbers, numbers! "Dee-pee-ess", what is this? It didn'taru make any sense to me. So I drained the bottle, and passed out on the bed with the journal on my stomach--at which pointaru, the noise stopped bothering me. Ahhh, life in the big city-witty.

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#38 Jun 25 2009 at 6:59 AM Rating: Default
All this talk of RP'ing, toons, and channels, it's all too WoW I feel ill.
No I won't be an RPer though I may indulge in it for comic effect.
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I'll RP! Let me know as soon as possible what server will be the designated RP (if SE don't formally make their own)

Keen writer here, and my girl already has her own back-story! Im sad I know! LOL!
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Totally depends on the race I'll be playing. If there male Gria than its a maybe. If theres a male "Mithra" Choice than thats another maybe. Other than that I don't see it happening and even if there are either of these two races its still only a maybe.
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