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#1 Jun 23 2009 at 12:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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Good find, rate-up.

It's sad how much I'm looking forward to this, or any little tidbit of news about it. But it does go to show that XIV could be much closer than it may seem.
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I've been suspecting a fall beta ever since I saw some of that info earlier this week. I hope SE releases some game details before then, though. People are starving for information of any kind.

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Why isn't SE having their own event this year :/ Maybe somewhere in... July? :D
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#5 Jun 23 2009 at 1:18 AM Rating: Good
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hmm well that is still just speculation really, a theory based on that they are looking for QAers and GMs for September.

I'm still not gonna get my hopes up til word from Squeenix, IMO the most likely announcement of the Beta will be at TGS.
#6 Jun 23 2009 at 2:10 AM Rating: Default
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I posted a long time ago that the beta was a lot closer then people thought it would be.

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?game=268;mid=124465315086207696;num=15;page=1

Edited, Jun 23rd 2009 6:12am by Maldavian
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I'm sure it'll be a closed beta with an NDA attached to it, and people will slowly be phased in. 1,000 here, 500 there. We're not going to know very much, but I'm sure the lucky few will be more than happy to quietly nod or shake their heads at our speculations. Which will be very cool.
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#8 Jun 23 2009 at 4:38 AM Rating: Good
After all the initial conceptualisation for FFXIV began over 4 years ago, so a beta within 6 months would be on track, but I am prepared for delays, SE delay games a lot, just look at FFXIII. Here is hoping they are ahead of schedule!
Ok just seen the jobs they are looking for, (the rate they are offering looks terrible!) yeah beta could well be begining some time in 2009, if I was them I would wait till Jan 2010 however.

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triplealphareaction wrote:
After all the initial conceptualisation for FFXIV began over 4 years ago, so a beta within 6 months would be on track, but I am prepared for delays, SE delay games a lot, just look at FFXIII. Here is hoping they are ahead of schedule!


In case of FF14 it has been developed a lot longer, but also SE faces some serious competition in the MMO market and there are many MMO's launching in 2009-2010. The more you delay it the harder it might be to get a good player base.

One thing that the SE developers said a few years back was “You normally end up picking a MMO and you stick with it". So, the more "AAA" MMO's coming before FF14 the harder will it get to launch FF14 successfully.

FF13 is an offline game and such is not that dependent on when it will get released.
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One thing that the SE developers said a few years back was “You normally end up picking a MMO and you stick with it". So, the more "AAA" MMO's coming before FF14 the harder will it get to launch FF14 successfully.


This is a great point and something that plays heavily in our favor in regards to timely game release. When I was playing FFXI my friends would try to get me to play other games and I never even considered it. I was already in the middle of FFXI period. I mean I would only leave FFXI for a bit to play single player games if the title was incredible, but more than likely I just let the game pass me by because it would take time away from FFXI. If there are 2 MMOs I’m equally interested in and one comes out 6 months before the other guess which one I’m playing. Course this is not the case for me I will be waiting for FFXIV for however long it takes.
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I get the feeling also that possibly an internal alpha and beta could come towards the end of 2009. This is just my speculation, but I have read that FFXIII and games in general from SE have been delayed lately, or there just hasn't been a big catalog of games from SE as of late. I think this could indicate that they may have been investing a great amount of resources towards the development of FFXIV.

That is why I could see a fall-winter beta coming to us. Now I know this is what I would like, but then again its just me thinkin to much while sitting at work.

As far as the SE pushing to get the game out before the next wave of "big" MMOs comes out, I don't feel would be a good thing.

Recalling from memory, so please correct me if I am wrong, but I remember playing Vanguard Beta, and thinking the game will be good once they line out the bugs. From my understanding they pushed the game out the door without addressing a lot of those bugs, and ended up with a retail MMO full of bugs and complaints. I think that ultimately hurt them. Though I think now they addressed a lot of the issues, the damage has been done.

I am big Final Fantasy fan, and can't wait for XIV, but I would rather see SE take the time and give us a good quality game out of the gate, then deal with a game that was rushed for the sake of getting it out on the market before the next wave of MMOs hit the street.

SE has a strong following with the FF fanbase, and they know this. I think they will want to give their fans the best, so if it gets delayed, and pushed back beyond 2010, I think the fans will be upset, but will still be there when it gets released.
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#12 Jun 23 2009 at 6:03 AM Rating: Good
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I'd guess that MMO's are pretty good moneymakers for companies like SE, so it wouldn't be surprising if they had invested a lot of resources to making it as good as possible.

It's all overpositive fanboi-thinking but eh, one can always hope!
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Awesome find and rate up. This also confirms what someone else speculated on another thread after digging out the job-listings page from the SE main site.

Personally, I think we'll hear a LOT more when TGS comes in September. If SE want to be on point and get a very good jump start, they should have a lotta info on FFXIV and also announce at least the closed beta. The mmorpg field has been a little wide open for almost a year so whoever is swift enough to get their game out there between now and 2010 will make a substancial player base.
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I saw this story as well on MMORPG.com...was notified via a newsletter. When I first saw it I thought I should make a thread about it, but after I read it I realized that it was the same observation someone else had made weeks ago.

The speculation was eventually posted on Eorzeapedia, which is where MMORPG.com got the news from.

I believe this idea was talked about in another thread and several people (not sure if it was on this forum or another) thought that the jobs they were posting were going to be for FFXI, which is entirely possible.

Anyway, I am not expecting a release date for FFXIV until...maybe Sept, Oct, or even Nov of 2010. I'm expecting closed beta to begin in Winter of '09 at the earliest...but that's just speculation.
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#15 Jun 23 2009 at 8:42 AM Rating: Good
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Can't wait for this Beta. My brand new PS3 is waiting for you, Mr. Final Fantasy XIV. Good find, although already posted by someone else on the Forum. Thanks!
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Yup, it's been posted before. Here's the first one.
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#17 Jun 23 2009 at 8:53 AM Rating: Good
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^^

There it is! Since that Thread I've been waiting for it to get closer to September to see if this is really going to happen. I keep hearing people make up this crazy idea that FFXI players get first Beta dibs on this game, lol. When it's a NEW game! Bleh.
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#18 Jun 23 2009 at 9:47 AM Rating: Default
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Just thought I would join the crowd saying "I thought it would come out in the fall". I'll also go further and say not only was I the first to post it but I speculated September specifically.

ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?game=268;mid=124422165658182338;num=26;page=1

It's more of a gut feeling really. It's been in development for so long I just don't see them delaying it much longer.
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Who cares who "guessed" or "speculated" first, we should be glad we're getting this information and have people going online all day searching countless hours to obtain this information.

It's much appreciated, everyone, let's keep it up! ^^
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Skeptic wrote:
Who cares who "guessed" or "speculated" first, we should be glad we're getting this information and have people going online all day searching countless hours to obtain this information.

It's much appreciated, everyone, let's keep it up! ^^


I tend to agree but when everyone is saying "I guessed it" my pride tells me to say "I guessed it first". Unfortunately my pride got the better of me this time.
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I tend to agree but when everyone is saying "I guessed it" my pride tells me to say "I guessed it first". Unfortunately my pride got the better of me this time.


Easy there, I gave you some Kudos in your original post because you were telling the truth. I'm actually interested now in talking FFXIV a bit more with you off the Forum. PM me your MSN or something maybe?

Great guess, nonetheless.
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#22 Jun 23 2009 at 10:09 AM Rating: Good
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Hmmm...I wonder what do you have to do to get into the beta testing.
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Hmmm...I wonder what do you have to do to get into the beta testing.


If you are already playing in a famous guild/community, you will receive a beta key no doubt. I have friends that play in Ensidia, a WoW guild and they have so far received betas to all the major MMO's that have been released. Just to name a few Warhammer, AOC, Aion, LotRO and many more.

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Sign up.

FFXI getting dibs on Beta Testing FFXIV is Bogus.
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I'd love to see FFXIII come with a beta key for FFXIV.
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I'd love to see FFXIII come with a beta key for FFXIV.


If so then eBay will be flooded with beta keys for sale.
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Hmmm...I wonder what do you have to do to get into the beta testing.


My guess is either one of two things:
Be a current FFXI player or have reactivated your account during SE's account reactivation event...thingy.
I hope that this is not the case because this would exclude me. I don't like this idea but it sort of makes sense to me because FFXI players will have more knowledge of, at least, what to expect, than non-FFXI players.

OR

Be a "Member" on Square Enix's website and get your rank up to the highest (first pick) or second highest (second picks for testing) by buying SE games and registering them at the website, therby earning you points and getting higher ranks.
This is just pure speculation, but I had read before that people got beta keys for some game in the box of another game, which made me think of this idea.
I also don't like this idea because I don't buy many games!
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Hmmm...I wonder what do you have to do to get into the beta testing.


My guess is either one of two things:
Be a current FFXI player or have reactivated your account during SE's account reactivation event...thingy.
I hope that this is not the case because this would exclude me. I don't like this idea but it sort of makes sense to me because FFXI players will have more knowledge of, at least, what to expect, than non-FFXI players.

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Be a "Member" on Square Enix's website and get your rank up to the highest (first pick) or second highest (second picks for testing) by buying SE games and registering them at the website, therby earning you points and getting higher ranks.
This is just pure speculation, but I had read before that people got beta keys for some game in the box of another game, which made me think of this idea.
I also don't like this idea because I don't buy many games!


OR

You can have an open beta and everyone is welcome to try it out.
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Or..they can have a Sign Up for Beta like most other games do? I'm pretty sure for the PS3 version it will have some News on signing up for Beta.

All this: "You have to probably have done this to Beta test, or buy this many games to Beta test", etc. is getting too nuts.

Let's hope for a regular sign up process..lol.


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You can have an open beta and everyone is welcome to try it out.


Thanks, lol. People tend to make things more difficult then what it should be. GEEZ.

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This is the same news that was shot down weeks ago on this forum. The news sites are just late to the party.

The only one of those positions that wouldn't be for internal QA (which is ongoing at almost all points in development) is the GM one, and there's no reason whatsoever to think that's not an FFXI job.

Since Tanaka confirmed in an interview more recent than this job posting that the beta won't be until 2010, I wouldn't read too much into this.
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Sorry, what I should have said was "getting into 'closed beta'".
I don't know how it will work in this game. In other games I've played it was just as easy and signing up and getting a key before they ran out...but the games also weren't nearly as popular as this one is...or as popular as it's going to become as more and more people hear about it.
So maybe SE wants to be more selective of who gets keys. Maybe not.
But if I were them, I would be carefully choosing who gets to participate in closed testing.
For open testing I would do it through a sign up process.

Again, this beta testing could be done differently from other one's I participated in and heard about.
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Again, this beta testing could be done differently from other one's I participated in and heard about.


Different in a way where players from other MMORPGS get first dibs on Beta because of their experience in a MMO? Or because of how many games you've purchased?

I would think SE would want to tap into all player groups (EX. Long grinds, short grinds, different age groups, brand NEW MMO players, etc.)

Why would they take a different approach on a Beta..? What benefits would it Reap?
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From the Tanaka and Komoto interview on the Wiki here:

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According to the announcement, Final Fantasy XIV will go on sale and begin service sometime in 2010. Looking at how things will go forth, Tanaka confirms that a beta test beginning next year will be most likely, with the test leading into the public release of the game. However, the exact timing is still unknown.


No one has put a firm date yet on the Beta, but it sounds unlikely to be starting as early as September. Maybe it will, but I wouldn't be getting my hopes up.

Also, it stands to reason that SE has Beta Testers from XI that the Devs are comfortable with, and that know what their job entails. Maybe someone on here has been invited to the various XI closed betas (and I'm not talking about the 360 beta), but I haven't ever met anyone before and usually, if I'm interested in a MMO, it isn't hard to find someone beta testing it. My guess is that the people who have been Beta testing the various XI expansions and content updates will be first in line into the closed Beta, and seeing as this is a predominantly Japanese dev team, that they tend to beta with people they can talk with more fluently. Open Beta will be another matter entirely, but that won't likely start until ~ 2 months before launch.

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To me the biggest factor is FFXIII. I can't see them releasing two titles that close together, so to me beta looks more like late Spring to early Summer, which leads into a fall or winter launch.
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To me the biggest factor is FFXIII. I can't see them releasing two titles that close together, so to me beta looks more like late Spring to early Summer, which leads into a fall or winter launch.


2 very different games though, that doesn’t really compete with each other. On the contrary, why not release them at the same time and save money on marketing both in the same ad? ;D

If you wanna play solo and casual >>>> FF13
If you wanna grind and play hardcore/groupbased >>>>> FF14

Flames incoming >>>>

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2 very different games though, that doesn’t really compete with each other.


I agree with this.
FF13 and FF14 have very little (if anything) in common. From what I read around italian forums, for example, people who won't buy FF14 because it's an MMORPG will instead buy FF13 because it's an offline jRPG.

I still think we'll see FF14 next summer.
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2 very different games though, that doesn’t really compete with each other.


I agree with this.
FF13 and FF14 have very little (if anything) in common. From what I read around italian forums, for example, people who won't buy FF14 because it's an MMORPG will instead buy FF13 because it's an offline jRPG.

I still think we'll see FF14 next summer.


Well, they do both share the same engine, for one, and are both part of the Final Fantasy series.

I agree that there a ton of people with no interest whatsoever in XIV that will still be buying XIII. However, the vast majority of XIV players are Final Fantasy fans. They aren't gonna skip XIII because a new MMO is coming. I think we have to look no further than the fact that they kept it as part of the numbered series to believe it will get its own proper launch window. The fact that the devs said themselves they weren't looking to even start beta testing til next year, would tend to support that.

It will come when it comes, but I've got 10 gil on November 2010.


Late November 2010 :)
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Games like FF13 are delayed cause they have to be bug free, FF 14 will be released and bugs fixed after since you need to have download upgrades.

FF11 was beta until a December and released the following May.

So if it ends this fall expect it 5 months later.
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This.

I'm surprised that so many people -- including the folks at various other sites -- are running so hog-wild with this. The "evidence" to support this rumor is flimsy at best. In fact, I struggle to even call it evidence. It's just wild speculation based on a few job postings for SE's European office.

I'm glad that people are so excited to play FFXIV, but this just strikes me as slightly over the top.

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Squeenix have got one thing working in their favour compared to many of the other MMO producers out there.

Seven Years running a sucessful MMO like FFXI.

I can't see the game being brought out (even Beta) before 2010. And I can honestly see any bugs being minimal!

And as for the comment about rushing the game out so people will get their game first before settling into another MMO released at a later date, you have to remember a lot of people played FFXI in and loved it. They left for different reasons and mostly because another game got their interest with better graphics, better combant, not so grind-heavy... But I bet a lot of those will now be looking forward to FFXIV. Like me! :D
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I'm as excited for this game as the next guy, but come on people let's be realistic. SE basically said themselves that they don't expect any beta before 2010. Of course they're going to post job listings months in advance. Also, you better believe they're taking the release of FFXIII into account. FFXIII is a very big game for SE and there is huge hype for it. SE also wants FFXIV to be big and it only makes sense not to release these games very close together. But in the fun of speculation, I would say the timeline will go something like this:

Fall 2009 - winter 2010: Little tidbits of info are updated on the official site about story, world, characters etc. Closed beta announced for spring to early summer 2010.
Spring 2010 - early summer 2010: Closed beta
Late summer 2010 - mid fall 2010: Open beta
Late November 2010: Release

But in all honesty, I think it will be delayed.

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Still Speculation on this? Let's wait for TGS kthx. That's our next chance to get some real info.
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It's interesting to me the way that S-E handles their business with regard to hype vs the way that Blizzard does. I think I actually prefer the S-E "wait until there's something to tell them" approach over the Blizzard "start hyping it years before it's ready."

Blizzard certainly gives you more information to chew on though. I'm guessing we won't know much about FFXIV until it reaches open beta (or until it reaches closed beta and some one breaks the NDA).
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I don't want them to hype it, persay. Would be nice to have a slow drip of information, though. Maybe just a random screenshot of something non-revealing, like terrain, or enemies, would be cool. Just something to, like you put it, chew on.
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They should do a Where's Waldo kind of viral campaign, only you have to spot the hume with the sword on his back to see new stuff. I'll ask them to put the first one in an old Unicorn forum thread.
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SE stated they were looking to have a much longer beta than FFXI
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I dont think were going to see a delay this time around simply because as it was stated earlier “FFXIII was delayed because it was a regular platformer and coulddnt be released w. bugs since XIV is mmo there really isnt much reason to keep postponing the releasee since it is an mmo and you could spend yrs on end trying to fix bugs why not just goahead let the game SE gets there pockets lined ad we get as fans get our ffxiv drug fix sorry if post is junk im using ps3 control its 6am and im too lazy to leave my bed for keyboard lol
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I would say a summer launch is the most likely scenario. Not even based on job postings really, as those could mean just about anything. Simply because for any major release thus far, especially FF releases, SE has given a 'window of warning' on release dates from 8 months - 14 months.

The one exception thus far has been FF13, and is most likely because of its being the first game to use the new engine. That's likely the same reason that FF14 was delayed to 2010...it was 'generally' stated two years ago that 2009 was their goal.

While I can agree that FF14 will probably follow FF13 by two or three months, I think we're looking at the cusp of 2nd/3rd quarter 2010, even with a longer beta period. It's not like open beta will last for six months, although closed + open + alpha sure.

If none of these musings seem valid, think about profit margins. SE America (at the very least) will want to post a profit increase before fiscal year closing at the start of the 4th quarter, and the FF13 trifecta + FF14 will do that.
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