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#1 Jun 25 2009 at 12:10 PM Rating: Good
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Don't think it's been posted yet so...

http://the-magicbox.com/gaming.htm

In the the June 24th Playstation 3 section. A ~20+GB game available only through digital download, sounds like a great idea to me... <.<
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#2 Jun 25 2009 at 1:21 PM Rating: Decent
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I was thinking about taking off the day the game releases but if this is download only I think I better save my personal days for later because I won't be able to play it anyways. Do you realize how long and how many failed or interrupted attempts it will take to download 20gigs of info when five hundred thousand people are competing with you?
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#3 Jun 25 2009 at 1:30 PM Rating: Good
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If FFXIV was downloadable it would be great to allow a trial accounts with a temporary name.

Its like this... crack dealers give crack for free to first time users to get hooked. Of course I got hooked to FFXI... and I told my friends.. then they got hooked... I've gotten 8 friends hooked on FFXI... I think i'm a crack dealer.
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#4 Jun 25 2009 at 1:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Do you realize how long and how many failed or interrupted attempts it will take to download 20gigs of info when five hundred thousand people are competing with you?


I don't think this will be as big a deal this time around, at least on the PS3. I say this, because most things downloaded via the PSN if they get interrupted for any reason, once the connection resumes the data you've already downloaded is still there and the download continues from that point.

I think most of the issues we've had with interrupted downloads and the subsequent "start-over" was a result of PlayOnline.

I could be wrong, though, and it could be a total clusterfudge...
#5 Jun 25 2009 at 2:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Do you realize how long and how many failed or interrupted attempts it will take to download 20gigs of info when five hundred thousand people are competing with you?


I don't think this will be as big a deal this time around, at least on the PS3. I say this, because most things downloaded via the PSN if they get interrupted for any reason, once the connection resumes the data you've already downloaded is still there and the download continues from that point.

I think most of the issues we've had with interrupted downloads and the subsequent "start-over" was a result of PlayOnline.

I could be wrong, though, and it could be a total clusterfudge...


How do they distribute files? If they use torrent, the larger the swarm, the faster it distributes.
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#6 Jun 25 2009 at 2:53 PM Rating: Decent
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If FFXIV was downloadable it would be great to allow a trial accounts with a temporary name.


I certainly hope not. This just begs for RMT goons to abuse it.
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#7 Jun 25 2009 at 3:43 PM Rating: Good
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So this is a site that posts large quantities of new with no context and no source?

If Warhawk wasn't download-only, I doubt FFXIV will be. There's no real advantage to it, and it could cost them a huge percentage of customers.

A download option would be nice, mind you, but I'm not totally sure they'll even do that.
#8 Jun 25 2009 at 4:11 PM Rating: Decent
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It is cheaper for the developer to have downloads rather than hard disk. There is talk that all game makers and distributors will be going that way in the future because they don't make anything in the used game market. I don't doubt this is the direction they are going. I just know that it took me 3 hours to get the last update when I started 10 hours after it came out. That was only 2 gigs I believe.

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#9 Jun 25 2009 at 4:16 PM Rating: Good
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I highly doubt it will be download only. Whether or not it will have a download option, I'm not sure, but I doubt it personally for the first bit of it's life.

If they do not release a packaged version, it will actually hurt their sales for many different reasons. The first reason is, a lot of people will simply buy games when they go to the store, and see one pretty that catches their eye, think of it as the most basic form of advertising. Another thing is, people will get the idea (even though it's not the case, especially in this technological era) that it is a "cheapy" type game, something that isn't of high quality, and could also hurt their sales. Now, people like 99% of the people on this site, know better, but you have to realize we will only make up a very small portion of the total number of people buying and playing this game, so you have to see things from a business point of view.
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#10 Jun 25 2009 at 4:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Didn't say anything about DVD or how big it will actually be.
#11 Jun 25 2009 at 4:30 PM Rating: Good
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I collect my video games and I want a hard copy of FFXVI...
I can't stand this digital download crap.
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#12 Jun 25 2009 at 5:28 PM Rating: Decent
Yeah so you buy the game online and just download it, won't take long at all, its not like we live in the stoneage and still play FFXI right?!
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#13 Jun 25 2009 at 5:34 PM Rating: Good
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I really don't see a problem with digital download only, although I would like to get a Hard-Disc version just for quick back up purposes (Plus Blu-ray discs will stand the test of time longer than an HDD will XD those things seem almost indestructible unless you are really trying hard to break it). Also don't forget they are going to be utilizing the Playstation store probably for the Digital Download which is FAR more dependable than playonlines rediculously slow servers.

Also a digital download only will at least save people confusion when people buy the game. That 20Gig thing doesn't exist in the 'article' but I seriously wouldn't doubt it being that big with how much space higher resolution textures and audio takes up (They said it would be 5.1 surround sound this time :o). Lets put it this way... you buy the game from the box and than it says "You don't have enough space" while downloading to the HDD on some of those older 20gig PS3's... yeah there is no "way" there won't be any complaints... no sir... no complaints >_> (your kidding yourself if think there won't be...). At least if its Digital Download only they could scan your system before purchase to make sure you know how much space you are going to take up with the game. Would save a lot of headaches in the future for them.
#14 Jun 25 2009 at 5:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Also a digital download only will at least save people confusion when people buy the game. That 20Gig thing doesn't exist in the 'article' but I seriously wouldn't doubt it being that big with how much space higher resolution textures and audio takes up (They said it would be 5.1 surround sound this time :o). Lets put it this way... you buy the game from the box and than it says "You don't have enough space" while downloading to the HDD on some of those older 20gig PS3's... yeah there is no "way" there won't be any complaints... no sir... no complaints >_> (your kidding yourself if think there won't be...). At least if its Digital Download only they could scan your system before purchase to make sure you know how much space you are going to take up with the game. Would save a lot of headaches in the future for them.


Yeah I have been wondering myself if I did buy a new PS3 how big a hardrive to go for, just in terms of FFXIV, too early to be sure yet, but it would be nice to know I don't need to buy the most expensive model so I can spend more on shoes.
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#15 Jun 25 2009 at 6:22 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah I have been wondering myself if I did buy a new PS3 how big a hardrive to go for, just in terms of FFXIV, too early to be sure yet, but it would be nice to know I don't need to buy the most expensive model so I can spend more on shoes.


Buy whatever model you want, the HDD can be replaced with any standard 2.5inch (Or was it 3.5...) Laptop HDD. It does not discriminate beyond that. You can get a 350 Gig HDD these days I think for like 100 dollars or so if you look in the right places. They are also really easy to replace too. I had an easier time upgrading my PS3 HDD than my desktop HDD just because of the convient placement of it on the PS3 XD
#16 Jun 25 2009 at 7:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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Any 2.5 inch SATA HDD will work, I've heard rumors that there's no limit to how much space you can use, but I'm not sure on that.

If you're going for a 500GB or higher, you might want to make a note to get a 7200 RPM one, but outside of that there's nothing else you really have to watch for.
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#17 Jun 25 2009 at 8:18 PM Rating: Decent
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That was a minstranslation of the same info that was posted here a few days ago, where it was stated that they won't limit themselves to physical media for release, but plan also online releases (such as on PSN, for example).
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#18 Jun 25 2009 at 11:42 PM Rating: Decent
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I was thinking about taking off the day the game releases but if this is download only I think I better save my personal days for later because I won't be able to play it anyways. Do you realize how long and how many failed or interrupted attempts it will take to download 20gigs of info when five hundred thousand people are competing with you?

If they make it p2p the more people the faster the download depending on your connection. But I doubt they would only do this anyway.
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#19 Jun 25 2009 at 11:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Any 2.5 inch SATA HDD will work


How uncharacteristically Sony. You usually have to buy an overly expensive specialty product that is only fractionally larger than a normal part.
#20 Jun 26 2009 at 12:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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How uncharacteristically Sony. You usually have to buy an overly expensive specialty product that is only fractionally larger than a normal part.


You can also utilize basically any 3rd party device through USB and bluetooth, it doesn't discriminate there and all Blu-ray games are not region locked. PS3 is an extremely open platform that even lets you install linux on it with the only a little limitations (can't utilize it for media/gaming as it won't allow access to the GPU). Microsoft (at least from a console perspective) is the new Sony when it comes to limiting people. Proprietary HDD, Proprietary (and extremely expensive) Wireless accesory (although there is ways to get around those thankfully). Sony really changed this gen, too bad they were stupid in thinking a ton of people would buy the console for 500-600 dollars >.> lesson learned I guess, because everything else they have done is awesome this gen.
#21 Jun 26 2009 at 12:35 AM Rating: Good
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If Microsoft were able to distribute Windows 7 to over 3million? people with no stoppage or congestion then I'm pretty sure the PSN can handle a couple of thousands, Everyones ISPs on the other hand...

And not to mention (even though the PSP Go contradicts this) Sony have been against digital only distribution because of the market share. Although then again that would be pretty obsolete since its an online game.
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