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#1 Jun 26 2009 at 6:13 PM Rating: Decent
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FFXIV should change their travel system by adding mounts, not like where u pay before exiting a city but mounts that you can just summon and go places.
#2 Jun 26 2009 at 6:16 PM Rating: Good
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I think that the mount system should be dependent on the world size, and how prevalent other modes of transportation are. I felt that FFXI had appropriate use of chocobos (and i even quit before personal chocobos came out). It made it to where you still had to think to make a trip efficient, but it didn't take too long to get anywhere.
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#3 Jun 26 2009 at 7:14 PM Rating: Decent
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No WoW mount B.S!... The Chocobo system is fine.. and very FINAL FANTASY .. not world of craft-ish.. The only thing that needs to be updated is the chocobo raising system, but that was just a... PS2 limitation thing? lol >.<
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#4 Jun 26 2009 at 7:18 PM Rating: Decent
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But chocobos aren't mounts in xiv..!

I'd be content with Marid tbh.
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#5 Jun 26 2009 at 7:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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well in that case they should improve the choco raising system, personally i thought 30 days just to ride it was too much but maybe thats just me
#6 Jun 26 2009 at 7:22 PM Rating: Good
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Hovercrafts are fairly common in FF games...maybe we'll get those instead of Chocobos? It is a more technologically advanced world, after all.
#7 Jun 26 2009 at 7:32 PM Rating: Decent
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HAY COOL AND WE CAN ADD THIS PLACE CALLED THE UNDERCITY WHERE ALL THE UNDEAD LIVE AND MAYBE ZEPPLINS



I apologize for the sarcasm but this kind of crap is really getting on my nerves. If you're going to suggest something, at least elaborate on how you think it should be done.

Edited, Jun 29th 2009 1:13pm by Kirbster
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#9 Jun 26 2009 at 7:47 PM Rating: Good
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Kirbster wrote:
HAY COOL AND WE CAN ADD THIS PLACE CALLED THE UNDERCITY WHERE ALL THE UNDEAD LIVE AND MAYBE ZEPPLINS



I apologize for the sarcasm but this kind of crap is really getting on my nerves.



And likewise, it gets on my nerves when people totally overreact when someone mentions anything good about WoW and suggests a form of it gets into FFXIV. As far as I know, though, I don't act like an idiot about it when I see someone do it.
#10 Jun 26 2009 at 7:49 PM Rating: Decent
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i feel same way
#11 Jun 26 2009 at 7:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Yogtheterrible wrote:
Kirbster wrote:
HAY COOL AND WE CAN ADD THIS PLACE CALLED THE UNDERCITY WHERE ALL THE UNDEAD LIVE AND MAYBE ZEPPLINS



I apologize for the sarcasm but this kind of crap is really getting on my nerves.



And likewise, it gets on my nerves when people totally overreact when someone mentions anything good about WoW and suggests a form of it gets into FFXIV. As far as I know, though, I don't act like an idiot about it when I see someone do it.


That's all well and good, but I HAVE agreed with some good things that FFXIV should adopt from WoW, if they're given a argument other than 'wow has this so FFXIV should have it too,' which, contrary to what some people may think, is not a very good argument.

If the OP had come up with something like a way to create a form of Chocobo breeding that could replace renting chocobos once and for all, and function in some way like mounts like WoW, I would have been all ears. So no, I'm not acting like an idiot, I'm acting like a person fed up with these kinds of crappy threads that basically state nothing useful. So get off your passive-aggressive high horse.


Edited, Jun 26th 2009 8:58pm by Kirbster
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#12 Jun 26 2009 at 8:03 PM Rating: Good
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I said basically the same thing that you said...so if I'm a high horse does that mean you are as well?

Apt metaphor for the thread though...
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#14 Jun 26 2009 at 9:50 PM Rating: Good
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Chocobo whistle.

Already implemented in XI.
#15 Jun 26 2009 at 11:27 PM Rating: Good
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But chocobos aren't mounts in xiv..!


Chocobos wear boots in the trailer, is that significant, idk really it just intrigues me.
I forsee lots of walking early on as with most FF games.
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I'd love it if you had to capture your own Chocobo and train it!

FF for me has always been about the Mini-Games. Something to do when you don't want to be serious or just want to have a laugh. I'm sure we all remember FFVII and the Chocobo system there. It would be a dream come true if some how we had that in an MMO.

Imagine... Our very own Chocobo races!!!!
#17 Jun 27 2009 at 3:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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Can we make a new rule that when u reference another game,even the mighty WOW, that you don't automatically assume that everyone has played it and knows what you are talking about?
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#18 Jun 27 2009 at 4:15 AM Rating: Good
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golden chocobo plox =D
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#19 Jun 27 2009 at 5:17 AM Rating: Default
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yea catching chocobos would be sick, they should implement some like super rare and random ones that randomly go through maps. kind of like in FFVII but better. Or maybe even better you catch a chocobo and through a period of time and quetss and items that you acquire and do, it will grow stronger and evolve its colors too, until it reaches the like godly choco status in FFIX
#20 Jun 27 2009 at 5:52 AM Rating: Good
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If you want to get real traditional then you would go to a vendor and buy some chocobo greens, then when your out in the world you would use it and a chocobo will run up and you can ride it. Thats fair enough.


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#21 Jun 27 2009 at 10:48 AM Rating: Decent
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I never played the game while the breeding and whistles were added which sucks cuz they sound awesome, but I think they seem to work well to be honest.

I hope whatever way they do go with mounts that they don't just appear under you like WoW though, I really hate that for some reason nyaha. I'd like to see it come running.
#22 Jun 27 2009 at 1:11 PM Rating: Decent
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The reason why no other MMORPG can compete with WoW is because they envy it and refuse to take any bits or pieces of it. FFXIV should have a mount system. 1 because 45minutes to get to where i wanted to lvl was stupid. If they don't then they definately should double the chocobo speed or somethign to speed up the process. If this game is going to be successful in the long run they would take piecies from every MMORPG and use them to their advantage while still maintaining an FFXI enviroment.
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#23 Jun 27 2009 at 1:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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The reason why no other MMORPG can compete with WoW is because they envy it and refuse to take any bits or pieces of it.


That may be true for a few MMOs but I think for the most part MMOs fail because they copy wow too much...why play a cheap imitation if you could play the real thing.

No, I say the next uber-successful MMO is going to have to take some of the good parts from wow and various other MMOs but will also need to bring something exceptionally new and brilliant as the MMO genre has become stagnant and is in desperate need of a revolution.
#24 Jun 27 2009 at 2:18 PM Rating: Good
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Kirbster wrote:
I apologize for the sarcasm but this kind of crap is really getting on my nerves.

By "crap" you of course mean the unthinking kneejerk reaction of "WoW is the devil," every time someone suggests a feature that is remotely similar to anything in WoW?

Aren't we a little old to be pretending the other kid's toy has to suck because it's not the one we have?


Mounts that you can summon anywhere in the open are a standard feature for just about every recent major MMORPG. It's a good feature. By not having you only force players to waste more time.

Edited, Jun 27th 2009 5:22pm by Allegory
#25 Jun 27 2009 at 3:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Allegory wrote:
Kirbster wrote:
I apologize for the sarcasm but this kind of crap is really getting on my nerves.

By "crap" you of course mean the unthinking kneejerk reaction of "WoW is the devil," every time someone suggests a feature that is remotely similar to anything in WoW?

Aren't we a little old to be pretending the other kid's toy has to suck because it's not the one we have?


Mounts that you can summon anywhere in the open are a standard feature for just about every recent major MMORPG. It's a good feature. By not having you only force players to waste more time.

Edited, Jun 27th 2009 5:22pm by Allegory



I agree. WoW was not the first game to introduce mounts, nor does it do it the best. However, mounts should definitely be available and viable some-what early on. travel is a nuisance, and hopefully we can get our own mounts either through quest/mission/money so that we can increase our movement speed.

Ideally, I'd like to travel the landscape on the back of something awesome like fafnir! However, I will settle for a horse or chocobo.
#26 Jun 27 2009 at 3:23 PM Rating: Good
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Whatever happens though, I definitely don't want horse mounts. They're too mundane for a FF. I think they should develop the chocobo breeding more in FFXIV...different color chocobos that fly, walk on water and mountains...I think I've gone more in-depth in another thread about this subject.
#27 Jun 27 2009 at 3:32 PM Rating: Decent
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I feel chocos are a fine way of travel through the game. But yes, the raising system should definitely be more thought-out this time around. Maybe make the regular rentable chocos the main way to get around til later in the game when you can start raising your own for your personal use as often as you want instead of having 'charges' and timers on the whistles in FFXI (maybe its changed since i've last used it, i haven't touch XI in a while and the choco raising thing in an even longer time).
#28 Jun 27 2009 at 4:27 PM Rating: Decent
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I really like how they had the mounts in FFXI fixed up. I think Chocobo Stables in cities that rent out Chocobos should stay, but this time around let Chocobo raising be in XIV from the start and don't make it so much gil each ride. Maybe just have it on a one day charge? And please let a Chocobo raised for speed run faster than a rented chocobo.
#29 Jun 29 2009 at 11:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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Mounts aren't a WoW thing. I had mounts in EQ1 before either FFXI or WoW was released. If we're going to talk about WoW and hating things, I hate how frequently when someone likes something that was in WoW, they assume WoW did it first.

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Aren't we a little old to be pretending the other kid's toy has to suck because it's not the one we have?


I play both WoW and XI, so that's not going to work.

As well as a bit of EQ1...

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#31 Jun 29 2009 at 12:06 PM Rating: Good
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Whatever happens though, I definitely don't want horse mounts. They're too mundane for a FF.

I don't recall horses ever existing in a FF world.

I was generally under the impression that Chocobos literally flat replaced horses in the Final Fantasy universe.

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Mounts aren't a WoW thing. I had mounts in EQ1 before either FFXI or WoW was released. If we're going to talk about WoW and hating things, I hate how frequently when someone likes something that was in WoW, they assume WoW did it first.

This.

It seems like a lot of people on this forum think that the only MMOs that have ever existed are WoW, WoW clones, and FFXI.

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First I'm going to agree with the people here saying this WoW hate is getting out of hand. No summonable mounts cause it was in wow? Lets take out swords, and magic and airships they are in WoW too.

Mount system Id like to see.

Low level You tag chocobo stables in towns and various other places of interest. From a stable you can rent a choco to take you to any other stable you've tagged (quick get the torches and pitchforks its like WoW's windrider system!)

Mid tiered level. You can raise a choco yourself. This choco is a summonable mount. With time you can raise it to be faster, later on you can begin to breed a special black choco that can fly.

I'd like to see other forms of transport as well. Linkshell Airships! personal hovercraft and the port spells. But we have to be careful about those port spells.... WoW has them too... god forbid we should use ideas prevalent in every mmo cause wow has them....
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#33 Jun 29 2009 at 4:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'd like to see travel convenience improve as you level your first or second job. Say at level 10 or so you can afford airship travel between major towns, level 20 you can afford magical warps between any towns, level 30 you can afford to rent mounts, and at level 40 you can afford to warp to any save point you've been to (or warp point or checkpoint or something that includes the entrnces to dungeons and other important spots around the world.

On mounts specifically, I'd like to see beastmasters of some appropriate level able to rent out stable sapce and breed/domesticate monsters they've captured. With less growth per generation but less rigidity than FF7. I guess I would think of this as mount crafting, it would just take longer to produce results. The mounts produced would have the wildness bred out of them, so they don't back you up in a fight, but they could be bought and sold. And eventually grow old and slow (or die) and need replacement.
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Mind you, given this is going to be a technological age (and given the mechanised flying totem poles) I wouldn't mind if we had alternative means of travel other than chocobos (e.g. the dune buggy in FFVII or maybe the motorcycle from FFVII too). Instead of feeding/training chocobos, you could skill up engineering skill and hunt mobs / quest / craft for upgrade items, customise handlebars, rims etc...well hello there time sink!

In fact, why can't they give use some personalised airships while they're at it? Most of the newer MMORPGs allow you to fly around the world (with some restrictions) so it shouldn't be too hard for FFXIV (subject to PS3/Xbox limitations).

I kind of disagree about the 30 day growth thing for chocobos, I'm not really a regular player so logging in just to feed the chocobo some carrots and click on repetitive training options isn't exactly my idea of training a chocobo.
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http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/bestiary.html?fmob=4442

Odin always rides a horse in FFs.

I always thought it was closer to a demonic unicorn than a horse... Well, a unicorn with two horns; hince why it's demonic.
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I wanna be a galka riding a taru.

New way to PvP... ride your opponent around as a mount until they either logout or their hp gives out from all the mobs you train to zone on them.
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#38 Sep 08 2010 at 6:59 AM Rating: Default
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How about Chocobo breeding followed with Chocobo Racing! At really high levels you get an airship, win!!
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I want a Galka mount
#40 Sep 08 2010 at 7:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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I spoke to the Chocobo guy in Gridania and he said "Show me an adventurer and I'll show you a Chocobo renter" or something. I think this means we are required to do something before getting XIV's equivalent of a Chocobo License.
Remember the Adventurer Certificate in XI? Yea.
Also there are ships and airships in XIV. The ship service for Limsa Lominsa works and we know there are other ports AND airports for airships.
Just wait for the retail version I guess. In XI you couldn't ride a Chocobo without your License and couldn't ride Airships without the Airship Pass, which came from Cities' Missions.
#41 Sep 08 2010 at 7:25 AM Rating: Good
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I actually quite like having to travel on foot in most cases.

It lets me take in the world more, aswell as appreciate the fantastic scenery FF games offer. I think gameplay is also more exciting when you and your allies are sneaking past the big nasties.

Being escorted to Jeuno as a lvl 20 Newbie is still one of my fondest FFXI memories.

I wouldn't be against mounts as long as its controlled. I'm not interested in a two headed, fire breathing, 100mph camel or anything like that.
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I'd like to see mounts in FFXIV for two reasons.

Firstly I like the freedom to explore on a more speedy pace. For example if someone needed help, I could get on my mount and be there in like 5 minutes instead of walking for 15 minutes. Also the timesink for walking from one place to another is a little bit outdated.

Second reason is the fluff. It is always nice to work towards something, especially if it improves your character. This also implies that getting a mount is not something you will get easily but something you have to work for. The breeding Chocobo is a good example.

Also if you do think mounts does not belong in FF, I am curious what you think about the "breaking immersion" teleport mechanism.

All in all, I am all up for mounts :)
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I like how the word 'mount' instantly encites WoW bashing. If the choice is as simple as copying WoW or making a terrible game, the choice is simple. Hopefully it's not that simple. But it's like people hate acknowledging that WoW did alot of awesome things. I know for the years I played FFXI, travelling was a complete pain in the neck. Personally, having a race-specific mount system seems pretty obvious, since different races of people are likely to have slightly different yet similar modes of transportation, and even a moderately advanced civilization is going to have a method of transportation other than walking. Teleporting is cool, but I personally hate 'Oblivion fast travel'. Either way, putting in personal mounts is not a shameless copy of WoW any more than Dragonlance is a shameless copy of Lord of the Rings.
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#45 Sep 08 2010 at 8:28 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm not so bothered about mounts, it's pretty obvious that you will be able to ride Chocobos. At the moment you walk to any camp initialy, then you can teleport to any gate at any time. I don't know how Anima is recharged yet but if anything I find it too easy to get around as the game is.
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I don't recall horses ever existing in a FF world.


http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/bestiary.html?fmob=4442


Odin always rides a horse in FFs.


OOH, 6 legged HORSE!!!
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I Henceforth decree that the terms "Mounts", "Toon" and "Rolling a character" are banned from all final fantasy boards, as they belong in thier own games, not this one, escpecially rolling a character, its not D&D dammit xD.
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#48 Sep 08 2010 at 10:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Hovercrafts are fairly common in FF games...maybe we'll get those instead of Chocobos? It is a more technologically advanced world, after all.

Mine would probably be full of eels.

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I Henceforth decree that the terms "Mounts", "Toon" and "Rolling a character" are banned from all final fantasy boards, as they belong in thier own games, not this one, escpecially rolling a character, its not D&D dammit xD.

As much as I agree with you, it's probably not going to happen.
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I don't know how big the world is yet for that to happen. Maybe they won't be needed since the Anima system is in place. If the regen rate goes up or they have other ways to help regain Anima then I think chocos won't be needed.

They have chocos in XI s I don't see the harm. I hope they do they same here except make the process of obtaining one not so time consuming. A challenge is fine just not one thats all time consuming.


There isn't reason that someone can't want a mount in this game. Any comparison to WoW or whatever who cares. I don't even like WoW(personal preference) and I think have chocobos wouldn't be a bad idea.

Some of you guys over react to suggestions and criticism very often. You seem to take it personally.

"OMG HE WANTS FFXIV TO BE WOW GTFO RAR!!!@!!!!1111eleven!!!"
" OMG HE LIKES THE GAME BUT HAS COMPLAINTS LETS BURN HIM ON THE CROSS!!!"
"OMG he likes the game murder his face!!!""

It's almost as if your zealots worshiping SE. Most things do not improve without criticism.
And that can either come from your self or others.

Maybe you should bash your heads into the corner of a coffee table and repeat till dead.
You don't HAVE to do that. But it could make the world a better place. Just a suggestion.

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Mistake I wanted to say most things do not improve without criticism.

Updated my post. (missed the edit button).

Sorry

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If they decide to add permanent mounts into the game, I personally hope that they keep them relatively uniform (i.e. all chocobo's/horses, with different colorings).

Nothing looks sillier to me than a party riding out on a dragon, zebra, mastodon, tiger, and spider at the same time.
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