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#1 Jun 28 2009 at 8:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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Today we have a special collection of information from Connect!On that features questions answered by Final Fantasy XIV Producer Hiromichi Tanaka and Director Nobuaki Koumoto along with some new comments and analysis. Connect!On is a monthly magazine dedicated to online gaming in Japan. Now that Final Fantasy XIV made its grand debut at E3, Final Fantasy XI had to scootch over a bit this month and lend some of its pages to promote the new MMO.

Basically a collection of what was announced or answered in interviews that the Connect!On people felt was the most important. There's also a few neat tidbits thrown in there, so if you need a refresher, check it out.

Read the article here.
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So I guess PvP in some form has been confirmed. At least that settles the debate with people who say there will be no PvP at all... thanks for the translation!
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In order to entice FFXI players over to the new game, Tanaka said they designed avatars to be similar in style. This way, there would be a connection that could make people feel comfortable transferring over, and let them know they could continue with their preferred "virtual self." However, while the races are the same on the surface, they will be given new names and some other cosmetic changes. Furthermore, eagle-eyed forum-goers have spotted what Connect!On refers to as a "horned elf" behind the counter on the far left, that could hint at the addition of new races. Unfortunately, there is no official confirmation of this as of yet. When pressed on the number of races planned, Koumoto has been hesitant to say if anything is decided.


I say its not looking good for character creation >_>
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So I guess PvP in some form has been confirmed. At least that settles the debate with people who say there will be no PvP at all... thanks for the translation!


Far from it, actually. PvP is being considered, and according to the interviews done at E3, may, or may not be implemented in a way similar to Ballista in FFXI. Nothing's confirmed yet.

Thanks for posting this, Elmer! It gives us a much better idea of how they're approaching gameplay with all of the references and stress on how XIV will be more casual in nature. I'm especially interested and happy to hear that they're going to be including many different ways to advance your character besides the good ol xp grind.
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"Those of us who continue to enjoy FFXI have heard Tanaka tell us time and again that Vana'diel will live on for years to come. There is a team of people who continue to work solely on FFXI, so they should not been disrupted or slowed down even after the release of FFXIV. Not only that, but FFXIV will be designed so that one can balance their play time between the two games without having to upset their daily lives. FFXIV will be a game that is kind to the casual player, and not demand copious amounts of time to make progress."


This has been brought up several times before as well and it really worries me. How can you have time to play FFXI _and_ FFXIV ? We do know how time consuming FF11 is and with that in mind then FF14 has to be the most casual MMO on the planet to be able to play both. It just don’t make any sense to me at least, unless there is no end game content or anything that requires any kind of time commitment or everything is solo able in the game and can be done at a rapid pace. Why else would the dev keeps saying over and over again that you can play both games at the same time?

PS: I want to thank Elmer for keeping us updated on what’s happening in Japan and wasting his money on buying those magazines ^^ /bow :D

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This has been brought up several times before as well and it really worries me. How can you have time to play FFXI _and_ FFXIV ? We do know how time consuming FF11 is and with that in mind then FF14 has to be the most casual MMO on the planet to be able to play both. It just don’t make any sense to me at least, unless there is no end game content or anything that requires any kind of time commitment or everything is solo able in the game and can be done at a rapid pace. Why else would the dev keeps saying over and over again that you can play both games at the same time?

Edited, Jun 28th 2009 2:42pm by Maldavian


Look at it this way:

Currently in XI, you have to either party up to gain xp which can take hours, or you go out and solo the xp yourself, which takes longer. If you're partying, it can take hours to actually get a party if you're LFG, and then you have a commitment to stay with the party for even more hours. As they said in the article, the only real advancement right now in XI is mob killing, which is time consuming.

In XIV, it sounds like they are adding multiple ways to advance your character besides killing mobs, which would allow for a much more casual playstyle, where you can log in, do what you want to do with the time you have, and then log out while still getting something accomplished.

As for playing both XI and XIV, that's easy. Many people play multiple MMOs at the same time, even hardcore raiders. Personally, I'm currently playing XI and LOTRO. I don't do endgame activities in XI, but I could in LOTRO if I wanted to since it's not quite as time consuming as XI. I don't play every day, but most days I log in a couple of hours here and there. It'll really all depend on how XIV is structured, and what the game has to offer on both a casual and endgame level.
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FFXIV will be a game that is kind to the casual player, and not demand copious amounts of time to make progress


I'm wondering what kind of progress they are talking about? Only growth/level up or does this also include end game content as well? Would be very intresting if you could progress through end game content if you only have 30 min/day to play :D

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Horned-elf? Clearly they don't pay attention to this forum at all, because we've already all decided it's a Gria lol.
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This has been brought up several times before as well and it really worries me. How can you have time to play FFXI _and_ FFXIV ? We do know how time consuming FF11 is and with that in mind then FF14 has to be the most casual MMO on the planet to be able to play both. It just don’t make any sense to me at least, unless there is no end game content or anything that requires any kind of time commitment or everything is solo able in the game and can be done at a rapid pace. Why else would the dev keeps saying over and over again that you can play both games at the same time?

PS: I want to thank Elmer for keeping us updated on what’s happening in Japan and wasting his money on buying those magazines ^^ /bow :D


From what I remember in the interviews, it wasn't going to be casual enough to play both in a single day, but instead, you can choose to play FFXI one day, and FFXIV another day. Let's say you have endgame commitments, and you join a Dynamis LS that goes Monday and Wednesday, and you have an endgame LS on FFXIV that does something Tuesdays and Thursdays. Personally, I think playing two MMOs and focusing on endgame for both would be too much to handle, no matter what, but I don't think they really care that much about endgame players, as the people who are going to stick to FFXI are going to be mostly endgame players who refuse to play FFXIV, the same way Everquest players are mostly endgame players that won't play Everquest II. At some point, you can't really remain true to both, and I don't mind that since I, like many others, think FFXI's time to shine has come and gone. Hopefully FFXIV outbeats FFXI so much that it will make current FFXI players REALLY notice all the flaws of the game, and switch to the MMO that has learned from them.
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In order to entice FFXI players over to the new game, Tanaka said they designed avatars to be similar in style. This way, there would be a connection that could make people feel comfortable transferring over, and let them know they could continue with their preferred "virtual self." However, while the races are the same on the surface, they will be given new names and some other cosmetic changes. Furthermore, eagle-eyed forum-goers have spotted what Connect!On refers to as a "horned elf" behind the counter on the far left, that could hint at the addition of new races. Unfortunately, there is no official confirmation of this as of yet. When pressed on the number of races planned, Koumoto has been hesitant to say if anything is decided.


I say its not looking good for character creation >_>

Why do you say that?
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Even with this new "news", we still do not know much about anything that is going to happen with this game it seems. It does look like they are going to keep the same Races just with a different look, and possibly bring in just one new Race?

I didn't get much from this read, is it just me?
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I didn't get much from this read, is it just me?


Nope. It was pretty much just what they said in the other interviews. Either there was no actual interview that took place and they just copied information from other interviews, the interviewers suck and asked the exact same questions that they've said in other interviews instead of good questions, or SE just refuses to give out any new information, probably until TGS.
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or SE just refuses to give out any new information, probably until TGS.


Or GDC. ::Crosses fingers::
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They seem more intent and focused on bringing back the old looks then adding anything new. Hopefully there's a lot of options and the old faces just happen to have their "pieces" included.
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So here's the part that I find to be most interesting:

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According to Koumoto, battles in FFXIV will involve more thinking and strategy than FFXI. While FFXI was about timing and quick action, FFXIV is going to take a new approach that will provide a comfortable learning curve for new players, yet allow for the challenge that hardcore players also crave.


FFXI combat is all about timing and quick action? For skill chains/magic burst, I suppose that's true, but otherwise... have they played other MMOs?

Edited, Jun 28th 2009 7:19pm by KarlHungis
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They seem more intent and focused on bringing back the old looks then adding anything new. Hopefully there's a lot of options and the old faces just happen to have their "pieces" included.


None of the "old looks" were bad at all, anyway. As we find out more it seems as though FFXIV will have a lot of items from FFXI in it, with a lot more tweeks and fixes this time around.

Can't wait.

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Of course, based on the design of FFXI, it's also entirely possible that they think that playing video games for 12 hours a day is normal.


Not Video Games per say, more like MMORPGs.

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According to Koumoto, battles in FFXIV will involve more thinking and strategy than FFXI.


This makes me happy, but even more eager to learn about the actual mechanics of the battles. I don't know about you guys, but for me, the more strategic and slow-paced, the better.


It's nice to be reassured that the game is going in the direction it should be.

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KarlHungis wrote:
So here's the part that I find to be most interesting:

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According to Koumoto, battles in FFXIV will involve more thinking and strategy than FFXI. While FFXI was about timing and quick action, FFXIV is going to take a new approach that will provide a comfortable learning curve for new players, yet allow for the challenge that hardcore players also crave.


FFXI combat is all about timing and quick action? For skill chains/magic burst, I suppose that's true, but otherwise... have they played other MMOs?



This is pretty much what I predicted, they want to make it more casual/easier then FFXI (stated several times that FFXIV will be more casual/solo/accessible then FF11), and due to that servers are in Japan and you need to adapt the controls to the PS3 controller there was no real way to make the combat system similar to games like WoW and other fast paced games.
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Nope. It was pretty much just what they said in the other interviews. Either there was no actual interview that took place and they just copied information from other interviews, the interviewers suck and asked the exact same questions that they've said in other interviews instead of good questions, or SE just refuses to give out any new information, probably until TGS.


They basically had what looked like an interview (Q & A format) as the centerpiece, which was just stuff that was asked at E3. Around the interview, they wrote their own insights and speculation to add to it. So, it was mostly a collection of what they felt was most important, sprinkled with things that may have been overlooked (crowd reaction, Gria in the picture, etc)
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They basically had what looked like an interview (Q & A format) as the centerpiece, which was just stuff that was asked at E3. Around the interview, they wrote their own insights and speculation to add to it. So, it was mostly a collection of what they felt was most important, sprinkled with things that may have been overlooked (crowd reaction, Gria in the picture, etc)


This clarification was much needed. ^^

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Maldavian wrote:
KarlHungis wrote:
So here's the part that I find to be most interesting:

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According to Koumoto, battles in FFXIV will involve more thinking and strategy than FFXI. While FFXI was about timing and quick action, FFXIV is going to take a new approach that will provide a comfortable learning curve for new players, yet allow for the challenge that hardcore players also crave.


FFXI combat is all about timing and quick action? For skill chains/magic burst, I suppose that's true, but otherwise... have they played other MMOs?



This is pretty much what I predicted, they want to make it more casual/easier then FFXI (stated several times that FFXIV will be more casual/solo/accessible then FF11), and due to that servers are in Japan and you need to adapt the controls to the PS3 controller there was no real way to make the combat system similar to games like WoW and other fast paced games.


I have though a bit more on it what he meant.

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While FFXI was about timing and quick action


I think what he refers to here is "skill chains" in FFXI. So you can translate that into "While FFXI was about skill chain".

And the next is about;

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FFXIV is going to take a new approach that will provide a comfortable learning curve for new players, yet allow for the challenge that hardcore players also crave.


This describes how WoW is really, you have a set of abilities that you need to actively use, and to be able to maximize your DPS you need to master the rotation of your abilities/use right abilities at the right time. Although the timers or cooldowns won’t be as fast as in WoW due to server location, still this gives away that you will have a "learning curve" until you master the class in combat.

So, in the end they removed the skill chain ;( I would have loved to see it come back in FF14 but it seems we won't probably.

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So, in the end they removed the skill chain ;( I would have loved to see it come back in FF14 but it seems we won't probably.


So the facts to support this Speculation is that this is what you came up with after reading a few lines? Wow, could you maybe tell us what Races we'll have, Jobs, and when Beta will start in that case? I wish I had skills like that.
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So, in the end they removed the skill chain ;( I would have loved to see it come back in FF14 but it seems we won't probably.


So the facts to support this Speculation is that this is what you came up with after reading a few lines? Wow, could you maybe tell us what Races we'll have, Jobs, and when Beta will start in that case? I wish I had skills like that.


So you don’t believe they will remove skill chains?
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So you don’t believe they will remove skill chains?


You said they removed Skill Chains completely, so I was just curious as to how you came up with that, that's all. You did not say YOU "believed" they would remove it, you flat out said they will.

So since you know they are going to remove it, what is SE going to implement to replace or make that better?




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#25triplealphareaction, Posted: Jun 28 2009 at 7:06 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) How can there be so many posts on this thread! That interview said nothing, it was for some crappy magazine, journalists do lie like **** for a living you know, aaaarrrrggggghhhhh!
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How can there be so many posts on this thread! That interview said nothing, it was for some crappy magazine, journalists do lie like @#%^ for a living you know, aaaarrrrggggghhhhh!
Wait for some official information please!


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First off, much thanks to Elmer for sharing this... two thumps way up. And now that I remember, another bout of thanks is in order for the ffxi images you and Corinth put on JP button (from the Final Fantasy XI Story Ultima & World Concept book). There were quite a few of them that I had never seen before... thank you again.

As far as the article goes, there are two quotes from the ffxiv devs that have got my mind at ease regarding FFXIV:

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Koumoto references FFXI, saying it is a game that relies too exclusively on defeating enemies over and over to advance, and that FFXIV will bring new avenues of facilitating character growth, such as quests

Koumoto admits that limiting the game to parties simply bludgeoning a single enemy to death would lack variety, and the team is looking into large-scale battles as well


Just those two statements alone is enough to get me psyched even further about this game. I said it somewhere else on this board and I'll underline that fact again: Gimme a dynamic battle system... (Yes, Please). That equals pure win for me.
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I say its not looking good for character creation >_>


I dunno, the only thing that quote affects is the number of races, and his hesitance to comment makes me think there's a large chance we'll be getting new ones. Just, the only way they'd ignore what seems an obvious route (more choices) is if they were 100% going to stick to the FFXI races from the get go. Seeing as there's any hesitance on the issue, they must be at least considering new races, and if they're considering them, well, it's the sort of thing that's universally appreciated, so why not include them?

Something I took away from the article, anyway.
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This has been brought up several times before as well and it really worries me. How can you have time to play FFXI _and_ FFXIV ? We do know how time consuming FF11 is and with that in mind then FF14 has to be the most casual MMO on the planet to be able to play both. It just don’t make any sense to me at least, unless there is no end game content or anything that requires any kind of time commitment or everything is solo able in the game and can be done at a rapid pace. Why else would the dev keeps saying over and over again that you can play both games at the same time?


This concerns me too. Let's analyze the situation real quick. The majority of endgame is a huge time sink in FFXI. You might be waiting for that uber rare katana of a SKY pop trigger or maybe those lv35 pants from Salvage. The point is most people I know in FFXI don't have any time as it is to do anything else but endgame. A couple friends of mine just quit their Zeni LS just to have a couple free days to level and stuff. Now I don't doubt that FFXIV will be very solo friendly at launch, but I just don't see SE phasing out their mindset of time sinks like Salvage and Dynamis. Eventually those type of events will surface and players will have to choose which game is more important. You just don't half *** an event like Salvage so I just don't accept SE's answer here.

Because FFXIV will be launched across the world and we all saw how people are with the expansions of FFXI including ACP. The PC version of WoTG was late so people began to download off the internet instead of waiting. So I just can't believe that people won't be jumping to FFXIV at launch to get their foot in the door. FFXI and FFXIV can co-exist until endgame content is released for FFXIV. After that, FFXI will be dead because those time infamous timesinks will pop up in FFXIV.

On a positive note, most people I spoke to don't believe FFXIV will be released next year. SE has a history of releasing software late, see FFXIII for a recent example. FFXIII was supposed to be released at the PS3's launch. So my estimate for FFXI's life cycle will be 18 months once FFXIV is released, whenever that might be.
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