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#1 Jun 30 2009 at 3:47 PM Rating: Decent
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So, in one of the interviews we've been told that the specs for the PC will be fairly high:

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For those of you looking to prep a new PC, Tanaka claims they are really looking to get on the cutting edge of technology with this installment. Like Final Fantasy XI, the game specs will be extremely high for the time, but in about 5 years, an average machine can run it on max settings with little to no issues.


I had a bit of extra time so I started searching for parts for a new desktop as I only have a laptop right now. It's a good laptop but it's really for school, not for gaming...it gets rather hot if played for too long. It got me thinking...how many of you fine FFXIV forum mongers are thinking of buying a new computer or upgrading your old one specifically for FFXIV?

Perhaps someone could make a poll? It could be a simple three answer poll "I'm buying/upgrading", "My PC will do fine" and "I'm playing on the PS3 (or hopefully xbox360)" something like those three at least.


As for me, I hope to build my first desktop (I've been meaning to do that for years but never got around to it) but who knows if I'll get the cash to do it.
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My PC was pretty pimp about a year ago, I'm not sure how that would compare to today. That being said, one of the things I actually love about FFXI (and will love about FFXIV) is being able to play it on a console. PS2 limitations be damned; Nothing beats playing a mmorpg with a controller from the comfort of your Laz-e-boy recliner on your 42" LCD. If I was going to be playing on a PC though, I would probably wait until the specs are released to make any kind of decision.
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#3 Jun 30 2009 at 4:09 PM Rating: Default
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Upgraded mine for the first time in 5 years last year for Age of Conan. It ran that fine, it will run FFXIV fine.
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I knew I'd be upgrading my PC soon, but with XIV info known (tentative release date) I'll be specifically waiting as long as possible to upgrade. The only thing that will push me to upgrade sooner is if I can get into the beta.

I imagine it will be quad core, at least 6 gigs of ram, <insert $300 vid card>, and a new monitor to go with it.
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I'm sure as the game creeps closer to release there'll be a hot streak of threads saying "can my comp play FFXIV?!" and then a massive guide to building a FFXIV-ready machine. Fear not, but wait as long as possible to upgrade; parts get cheaper with time and time alone.
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#6 Jun 30 2009 at 4:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I literally had just finished putting my new computer together the day before the FFXIV info was released. It's not exactly top of the line, but I don't foresee any problems with it playing FFXIV. I was pleased with the results from a Last Remnant Benchmark program.


As others have suggested, of course, wait as long as possible to buy a computer (or more preferably, build one). It's amazing how much money just 6 months will save you on the same parts, let alone potentially a year.
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#7 Jun 30 2009 at 4:42 PM Rating: Default
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My PC is ****, and I need a new one anyways. I'd probably be shopping for pieces right now if it weren't for XIV... now I'm holding out for more info. So they need to hurry their asses on more info about PCs...

If I was completely happy with my PC other than for gaming purposes, I'd strongly be considering just getting a PS3 for XIV. But since I'm getting a PC anyways, I might as well build it for XIV.
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If you are thinking about buying a new computer for FFXIV (like me), you should consider holding out for Windows 7 (due out next September, allegedly).
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Windows 7 is set for October 22 this year, stated on their official site. I'd wait to find out if FFXIV will really support DX11 or not though. If it doesn't then you'll save money when DX11 cards are released, and if it does...DX11 cards!
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i would just wait it out a bit longer, you never know what will be the best bang for the buck and its still 6-12 months out at a minimum by which point current technology will be significantly cheaper than what it is now.

at the very least wait for intels i5 which is coming this fall and should be a much better bang/$ than i7
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Windows 7 is set for October 22 this year, stated on their official site. I'd wait to find out if FFXIV will really support DX11 or not though. If it doesn't then you'll save money when DX11 cards are released, and if it does...DX11 cards!


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In regards to the PC version, the game will utilize the most current version of Direct X that is out when beta testing begins. This goes for Operating System as well. Similarly, they do not specify Vista or Windows 7 as an operating system, saying again that it will depend on what is out at the time.


Those come from the same source as the quote in my first post. So it really depends on when the beta is but chances are it will start after the release of Windows 7...even if it started before I doubt they would handicap themselves by using an old OP right before the new one comes out.


Anyway, I don't plan on building the computer until at the earliest the end of this year...probably early next year.
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Do you realize how different computers will be five years from now? I was thinking about getting a PC for FFXIV but I decided I would rather spend $300 bucks on a PS3 and be sure the game will run smoothly rather than spend $2,500+ bucks on a new PC.
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#13 Jul 01 2009 at 6:35 AM Rating: Good
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Computers already destroy the PS3 minus the processor. Cell is a tad bit stronger than the i7's but if this game is coming to the 360 too, then chances are a top rig now will be able to max this game.
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#14 Jul 01 2009 at 7:11 AM Rating: Good
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I had a think about it since I've been putting together a PC at the minute, it's nowhere near top spec but could give a 360 a run for it's money (not really THAT hard to do, is it). This one's going into the telly as a media and games unit so if it runs on that, great. But otherwise, since I've got a 360 already if it gets a release on there I'll probably get that, but since I've been itching to get a PS3 anyway, I'll likely go down that route if it remains PS3 exclusive.
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I remember reading that they were considering putting out a benchmark program. I'm personally waiting for that to come out.

I'd also like to point out that they need to be realistic with the minimum requirements. I mean, their target playerbase isn't going to rush out to buy a top of the line pc, quad core with a 1GB geforce just because Final Fantasy 14 is coming out. It's going to have to be realistic if they expect to grab a chunk of the existing mmo market from other games.
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I just bought my computer like 3-4 months ago because I needed a new one, I think I'll be fine. If not, I have a PS3 as well so I'm good no matter what! =D
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#17 Jul 01 2009 at 7:26 AM Rating: Decent
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I would rather spend $300 bucks on a PS3 and be sure the game will run smoothly rather than spend $2,500+ bucks on a new PC.


$2500 for a PC? Is every piece you're buying made out of pure gold? I build high-end gaming machines for fun (for myself/friends) and they're around $1100 after monitor, peripherals, tax, and shipping. Also, a $900 PC will always be able to out-media and out-multitask a PS3.
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#18 Jul 01 2009 at 7:53 AM Rating: Decent
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$2500 for a PC? Is every piece you're buying made out of pure gold?


Must be going to Dell lol.
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Taking into account that development of FFXIV started about 4-5 years ago and how much work it is to program all the needed stuff together with the avaliable hardware back then...
I'm sure that a 2009 standard PC with a DX10 graphics card and enough memory can run the game without any problems.
I'm also pretty sure you'll be able to adjust resolution and effects to get a better performance on weaker machines.

SE also said they will release a benchmark program again like they did for FFXI.
I'd test my system with that before buying a new machine or new components.

A bit off topic but...
Compared to consoles a PC got a major advantage. A PC is variable and it's hardware is modular which means that if FFXIV would get a facelifting a few years after its release to allow higher resolutions, more effects or custom settings the consoles couldn't handle the increased requirements.
Consoles are a limiting factor as long as you can't change or upgrade their hardware.
PS3 and X360 do a very good job though and I don't want to miss my PS3 anymore.

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If you want to play it on PC then build one maybe spring 2010.
It might not be cheap to build your own but it will outperform standard machines and last longer if done right.
If you don't care and want to save some money and nerves ;) get a PS3 with the nice side effect that you can play FFXIII on it too.

I for my part will use my PC.
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#20 Jul 01 2009 at 8:26 AM Rating: Decent
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$2500 for a PC? Is every piece you're buying made out of pure gold? I build high-end gaming machines for fun (for myself/friends) and they're around $1100 after monitor, peripherals, tax, and shipping. Also, a $900 PC will always be able to out-media and out-multitask a PS3.


I built my current one last year and it was $2,600... SLi top of the line MoBo, top of the line RAM, 400ish for the full tower and PSU it's hard NOT to get into the 2k mark, BLURay drives weren't cheap yet, I needed a 64bit copy of Vista so I had to buy a non-system builders version. The crap adds up. And yes I could build the same computer today for about 300 bucks minus Windows and by getting a used BD reader (non-burning drive)

I'll be upgrading to the i-series and upgrading my video cards as well as giving Vista and XP the boot from that case around the time XIV is closing in on release, I'm expecting to spend around another 2k at that point in time because I'll be shooting for a non-air cooling along with what should be about 800 skins for a single card.
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I would rather spend $300 bucks on a PS3 and be sure the game will run smoothly rather than spend $2,500+ bucks on a new PC.


$2500 for a PC? Is every piece you're buying made out of pure gold? I build high-end gaming machines for fun (for myself/friends) and they're around $1100 after monitor, peripherals, tax, and shipping. Also, a $900 PC will always be able to out-media and out-multitask a PS3.
Where do you buy your parts? There must be some secret corner of the internet I'm missing. I'm building my own PC right using pretty much exclusively newegg and I'm up to 2475 and wish I had enough money to deck it out a little more...
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Where do you buy your parts? There must be some secret corner of the internet I'm missing. I'm building my own PC right using pretty much exclusively newegg and I'm up to 2475 and wish I had enough money to deck it out a little more...


Instead of sorting by "price highest to lowest" and picking the first thing, try sorting by best rated ;)

I have a computer that ran Crysis on high (back when Crysis was THE benchmark for gaming performance). I spent $1180 on it after tax and shipping, bought the monitor, keyboard and mouse. The tower was ~$925. By the time FFXIV comes out, I'm sure that for $925 you'll be able to build something that is a beast by today's standards.
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#23 Jul 01 2009 at 9:03 AM Rating: Decent
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My PC sucks, I could never get my FFXI to look just as great as most other players and also my fps are low to go along with it.

For FFXIV I plan to just get a PS3 seeing as its finally getting good games I can enjoy and I won't have to go through the many frustrating obstacles you have to go through to upgrade your PC (Well i'm sure they would be difficult for me so don't try to **** all over my post k?).
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Good for you! Building a desktop computer for high end use is always a wiser than buying a pre-built one. Pre-built desktop computers are good for one thing, and one alone: mass purchases of low-end desktops for businesses.

As for your question of a laptop, they can definitely run games, but the price tends to increase almost exponentially compared to equivalent custom-built desktops. If mobility is very important to you, and price is a non-objection, you may still want to invest in a laptop.

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If you are going to build a new PC specifically for FFXIV, I would highly encourage you to weight until FFXIV is ready to come out. There is a good possibility that by the time FFXIV comes out, you could build the same computer you could build now for half the price. Don't waste your money.
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Didn't read the whole thread, but I can't imagine that an MMO will be more taxing even at the time of FFXIV's release than Crysis and a few other FPSs are. If you build a PC around those, you should be sitting pretty when FFXIV comes out.

I personally do a major upgrade every year and minor upgrades ever 1-3 months on my PC anyway. I'm never caught with my pants down when a new game comes out, and I'm never really out a large sum of money at any point either. The most I generally spend on the major upgrades is about $800. Minor upgrades are generally $100-200.

I currently run a phenom X4 9600 black edition, 8 GB hyperX 1066, Radeon HD 4870 w/ 1GB. I don't have any doubts that this system would run FFXIV in maximum graphics with no problems. In Crysis, I get 86 FPS on max graphics. *more if I overclock, but I'm a firm believer in not overclocking without water cooling.*
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$2500 for a PC? Is every piece you're buying made out of pure gold? I build high-end gaming machines for fun (for myself/friends) and they're around $1100 after monitor, peripherals, tax, and shipping. Also, a $900 PC will always be able to out-media and out-multitask a PS3.


Dude, I don't know where you've been getting your parts, but I really like to know. And also like to understand what is a "good" gaming PC to you. $2500 for a kick *** rig with 22" LCD and nice speakers plus gaming grade peripheral devices is not a push over, not at all. In fact, for extreme FPS gamers, $2500 is probably not enough (way off really).

Unless you're talking about getting a Lynnfield or Arrandale chips, a low end Nahalem chip alone cost about $280 bucks. A performance 200 series Nvidia graphics card can easily cost up to $300+ bucks. The CPU and graphic card together would already cost well over $600 with tax. DDR3 memories are becoming cheaper, but won't be in the range of DDR2 for at least another year. A good name brand set of DDR3 1600 (6 gigs) will cost over $200 bucks. High RPM or Solid State hard drives are both equally expensive as well $200 to $400 easily.

Spending $2500 to get the newest technology on the market, keep the rig for 3 years before changing is better off than spending $1000 on technologies that are already obsolete and needs to be replaced every year. $2500.00 every 3 years is actually not a bad investment. I'm sure there are times where you blew off $2500 for something that did not last you 3 years long.

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Good for you! Building a desktop computer for high end use is always a wiser than buying a pre-built one. Pre-built desktop computers are good for one thing, and one alone: mass purchases of low-end desktops for businesses.


That really depends. My current rig was a pre-built. I tried to obtain all the parts individually to build the rig myself, through NewEgg, Directron etc. The dollar amount ended up higher to purchase each component at retail price. If I purchased through NewEgg, I had to pay for tax as well. I bought the pre-built rig through AVA Direct, with all custom parts, for $2300, no tax and free shipping. Intel i7 920 chip, CoolerMasters V8, 2gigsx3 Corsair Dominator DD3 1600, EVGA GTX 285 Super Clocked, WD Raptor 10k rpm 300g HDD, SB Titanium Fatality Professional, etc. All components are detailed picked by myself, all parts were assembled and tested, cables are neatly tucked, 3 years parts and labor warranty. If a hardware fails, no need to diagnostic the thing yourself, send it back to have them fix/replace it, no need to RMA individual parts with their manufacturers. After getting the rig, I overclocked it myself, tweaking the bClock, QPI, voltage, etc. Got the 920 from 2.66 to a stable 3.66, went to 3.8 at one point but backed it down because I have only an air cooler. Got the memory to hit 1600Mhz. Getting a $280 chip to run like a $1000 chip is really fun.

Although it's more common for hardcore or gamer enthusiasts to build their own rigs from scratch, sometimes it's just more convenient to have someone else do it for you and take all responsibility of any problems.

Both iBuy Power and Cyberpower are good system integrators, but generally speaking, if you're looking for specific parts, and combination of components, AVA Direct offers the best choices and pricing of course.



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$2500 for a PC? Is every piece you're buying made out of pure gold? I build high-end gaming machines for fun (for myself/friends) and they're around $1100 after monitor, peripherals, tax, and shipping. Also, a $900 PC will always be able to out-media and out-multitask a PS3.


Dude, I don't know where you've been getting your parts, but I really like to know. And also like to understand what is a "good" gaming PC to you. $2500 for a kick *** rig with 22" LCD and nice speakers plus gaming grade peripheral devices is not a push over, not at all. In fact, for extreme FPS gamers, $2500 is probably not enough (way off really).

Not sure about you but $1000 is probably a great price, $2500 is extremely unnecessary.

Unless you're talking about getting a Lynnfield or Arrandale chips, a low end Nahalem chip alone cost about $280 bucks. A performance 200 series Nvidia graphics card can easily cost up to $300+ bucks. The CPU and graphic card together would already cost well over $600 with tax. DDR3 memories are becoming cheaper, but won't be in the range of DDR2 for at least another year. A good name brand set of DDR3 1600 (6 gigs) will cost over $200 bucks. High RPM or Solid State hard drives are both equally expensive as well $200 to $400 easily.

CPU and Graphics already over $600? All you really need atm is a q9550 or core i7 920 and an ATI 4870 to play any game at best settings and that combo isn't even over $400. You only need DDR3 if you're going i7 and right now, i7 isn't worth it since you have to buy a 200$ motherboard with it. I'll wait until the next set of intel chips for when I can't play games at high settings anymore. And you actually buy the SSD and 10k RPM HDDs? No wonder you're spending so much money. Look at the benchmarks, there is barely any difference between 7200 RPM and 10k RPM drives. I have a 10k RPM drive and I feel like wow what a waste of money after doing the tests myself. You don't need 10k RPM or SSD drives, just get a 1Tb HDD for 90$. If 1Tb is too much, price is lower for you.

Spending $2500 to get the newest technology on the market, keep the rig for 3 years before changing is better off than spending $1000 on technologies that are already obsolete and needs to be replaced every year. $2500.00 every 3 years is actually not a bad investment. I'm sure there are times where you blew off $2500 for something that did not last you 3 years long.

I almost thought that at first. I bought a $2500 rig from cyberpowerpc a while ago. Know what happened? after a couple years I needed to start doing some upgrades. Based on Moore's Law, technology doubles every 18 months. Whoever spends $2500 on a computer is wasting money. My $1,000 PC can be just as good as that $@500 PC if you know how to overclock properly.

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Good for you! Building a desktop computer for high end use is always a wiser than buying a pre-built one. Pre-built desktop computers are good for one thing, and one alone: mass purchases of low-end desktops for businesses.


That really depends. My current rig was a pre-built. I tried to obtain all the parts individually to build the rig myself, through NewEgg, Directron etc. The dollar amount ended up higher to purchase each component at retail price. If I purchased through NewEgg, I had to pay for tax as well. I bought the pre-built rig through AVA Direct, with all custom parts, for $2300, no tax and free shipping. Intel i7 920 chip, CoolerMasters V8, 2gigsx3 Corsair Dominator DD3 1600, EVGA GTX 285 Super Clocked, WD Raptor 10k rpm 300g HDD, SB Titanium Fatality Professional, etc. All components are detailed picked by myself, all parts were assembled and tested, cables are neatly tucked, 3 years parts and labor warranty. If a hardware fails, no need to diagnostic the thing yourself, send it back to have them fix/replace it, no need to RMA individual parts with their manufacturers. After getting the rig, I overclocked it myself, tweaking the bClock, QPI, voltage, etc. Got the 920 from 2.66 to a stable 3.66, went to 3.8 at one point but backed it down because I have only an air cooler. Got the memory to hit 1600Mhz. Getting a $280 chip to run like a $1000 chip is really fun.

Nice rig, you can run the game at 180 FPS, I'll run it at 80 FPS.

Although it's more common for hardcore or gamer enthusiasts to build their own rigs from scratch, sometimes it's just more convenient to have someone else do it for you and take all responsibility of any problems.

Both iBuy Power and Cyberpower are good system integrators, but generally speaking, if you're looking for specific parts, and combination of components, AVA Direct offers the best choices and pricing of course.

I'll look at that website but after ordering from cyberpowerpc, i'll probably just custom build mine next time since I noticed I get ripped off for a few parts. I just thank god they have the option to not have it come with the OS because that's a big waste of money. If you wanna see a good $1k computer, I'll post links for you.

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Nice rig, you can run the game at 180 FPS, I'll run it at 80 FPS.

You just summed up the definition of overkill very well.
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All this discussion is making me terribly nervous about the computer parts I just picked out to build my own. [:nervous:]
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$2500 for a PC? Is every piece you're buying made out of pure gold? I build high-end gaming machines for fun (for myself/friends) and they're around $1100 after monitor, peripherals, tax, and shipping. Also, a $900 PC will always be able to out-media and out-multitask a PS3.


Dude, I don't know where you've been getting your parts, but I really like to know. And also like to understand what is a "good" gaming PC to you. $2500 for a kick *** rig with 22" LCD and nice speakers plus gaming grade peripheral devices is not a push over, not at all. In fact, for extreme FPS gamers, $2500 is probably not enough (way off really).

Unless you're talking about getting a Lynnfield or Arrandale chips, a low end Nahalem chip alone cost about $280 bucks. A performance 200 series Nvidia graphics card can easily cost up to $300+ bucks. The CPU and graphic card together would already cost well over $600 with tax. DDR3 memories are becoming cheaper, but won't be in the range of DDR2 for at least another year. A good name brand set of DDR3 1600 (6 gigs) will cost over $200 bucks. High RPM or Solid State hard drives are both equally expensive as well $200 to $400 easily.

Spending $2500 to get the newest technology on the market, keep the rig for 3 years before changing is better off than spending $1000 on technologies that are already obsolete and needs to be replaced every year. $2500.00 every 3 years is actually not a bad investment. I'm sure there are times where you blew off $2500 for something that did not last you 3 years long.

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Good for you! Building a desktop computer for high end use is always a wiser than buying a pre-built one. Pre-built desktop computers are good for one thing, and one alone: mass purchases of low-end desktops for businesses.


That really depends. My current rig was a pre-built. I tried to obtain all the parts individually to build the rig myself, through NewEgg, Directron etc. The dollar amount ended up higher to purchase each component at retail price. If I purchased through NewEgg, I had to pay for tax as well. I bought the pre-built rig through AVA Direct, with all custom parts, for $2300, no tax and free shipping. Intel i7 920 chip, CoolerMasters V8, 2gigsx3 Corsair Dominator DD3 1600, EVGA GTX 285 Super Clocked, WD Raptor 10k rpm 300g HDD, SB Titanium Fatality Professional, etc. All components are detailed picked by myself, all parts were assembled and tested, cables are neatly tucked, 3 years parts and labor warranty. If a hardware fails, no need to diagnostic the thing yourself, send it back to have them fix/replace it, no need to RMA individual parts with their manufacturers. After getting the rig, I overclocked it myself, tweaking the bClock, QPI, voltage, etc. Got the 920 from 2.66 to a stable 3.66, went to 3.8 at one point but backed it down because I have only an air cooler. Got the memory to hit 1600Mhz. Getting a $280 chip to run like a $1000 chip is really fun.

Although it's more common for hardcore or gamer enthusiasts to build their own rigs from scratch, sometimes it's just more convenient to have someone else do it for you and take all responsibility of any problems.

Both iBuy Power and Cyberpower are good system integrators, but generally speaking, if you're looking for specific parts, and combination of components, AVA Direct offers the best choices and pricing of course.


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FFXIV will have high system requirements, but they won't be absurd. As others have said, they don't want to alienate a potential part of their player base with ridiculously high system requirements. I'm guessing around Age of Conan's specs or possibly even lower depending on how they choose to go about optimizing. Invest in a decent motherboard and you don't need to spend $2500 to run the latest and greatest games. Only enthusiasts who care about benchmarks, ridiculously high FPS, and e-peen put that kinda money into their gaming desktop (just talking about the computer itself not including monitors, speakers, peripherals). Right now, you can probably spend around $1000-$1200 (again, just talking about the comp itself) and be good to go for the next 2-3 years. It will be even less than that by the time of FFXIV release. Good luck if you choose to build your own. It's very rewarding.
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#33 Jul 02 2009 at 7:03 AM Rating: Good
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An important thing to keep in mind is this: Anything over 60 frames per second is undetectable to the naked human eye for 99.9% of all people. A very small few are able to detect up to ~80 frames per second, but that's extremely rare.
#34 Jul 05 2009 at 1:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Well im in need of a leptop who hopefully will be able to run FF XIV smoothly and ive found 2 laptops that i think can do this ( Advise would be awesome, as im not that amazing with a PC )

Toshiba Qosmio X305
http://laptops.toshiba.com/laptops/qosmio/X305

Or

Alienware M17x
http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/laptop-alienware-m17x?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&s=dhs&source=428

Cyberpower looks really good for the price really, i might just get that 1 instead, anyone knows if they ship to EU though ?

Xplorer X5-9900
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Xplorer_X5-9900_Notebook/

You guys think i could buy 1 of these laptops and still be able to run FF XIV without any problems ?

Edited, Jul 5th 2009 10:41am by DankStar
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#35 Jul 05 2009 at 7:11 AM Rating: Good
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www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Xplorer_X7-Xtreme_S1_Notebook/

It's not as **** as the other ones but in terms of efficiency, it should run ffxiv with no problem on med, maybe high settings.
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#36 Jul 05 2009 at 7:59 AM Rating: Good
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i would say unless you need a computer right now don't buy one yet
the thing about computers in 1 year or less they can change so much and so can the price
you can end up paying 20% less within a year
#37 Jul 05 2009 at 8:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Waiting until next springs tax return and building a quad core machine with 4 gigs or ram and a 1g video card. Total cost will be about $700. Not too bad. Using my old HD, dvd burner, and case.
#38 Jul 20 2009 at 6:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Playing on a ps3 in hd is fine for me. I'll have to get a new one though because my model only has a 20gb hdd and it's already full.
#39 Jul 20 2009 at 9:15 PM Rating: Decent
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You don't need a new PS3, you can mod your current one with a store bought hard drive, and it isn't that hard.

I know this is fact, but since I don't own a Ps3 I don't have a reference site to give you, hopefully one of the other posters has one handy.

No need to drop 400 bucks on a larger hard drive PS3 when you already own one, just look it up online, put in your own hard drive and save a couple hundred bucks.
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#40 Jul 21 2009 at 12:16 PM Rating: Good
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www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136280

That's the hard drive i'm using on my ps3. It's pretty funny because when the PS3 came out, I bought the $500 SKU instead of the $600 SKU and just threw this HDD inside of it. Sure i'm missing wi-fi and memory slot readers but, Wi-fi is horrible for gaming and I have a computer for memory slot stuff. ;)
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#41 Jul 21 2009 at 8:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Buying a PS3 may be cheaper...
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#42 Jul 21 2009 at 8:17 PM Rating: Decent
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I need to get a new PC anyways. My desktop finally died, and I'm rocking a 8-yr old laptop for the time being.

Financially, I'm focusing on other things and don't have money to spare for a computer right now. Logistically, I'm waiting for Vista to go away and am holding out for better PC parts to come out.

Like the OP, this is an excellent opportunity to learn how to build one myself. I'll probably put one together later on this year, and I would like for SE to come forth with more info about game specs by then.

To answer the original question, no. I am not buying a new PC specifically for XIV. However, I am buying a new PC anyways, and I'd like for it to rock the **** out of XIV.

Oh, and I've also decided to get a PS3 - mainly for other games and the BluRay player. Maybe I'll play XIV on that too. We'll see.
#43 Jul 23 2009 at 7:17 PM Rating: Decent
I went with an alienware PC but maybe custom building one would be cheaper and just as nice?
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