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#1 Jul 08 2009 at 10:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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http://sinopon555.fileave.com/FFXIV/FFIV_BETA.jpg

The first time Closed Beta tester recruitment beginning.

[ Outline of recruitment ]
Recruitment period: From August 3, 2009 To August 30, 2009
Application method: Application from official site
Number of recruitment: About 7000 people
The winning announcement: It notifies the winner with mail
Entry fee: Free of charge
Closed Beta beginning expected date: September 9, 2009

EDIT: Fake, baw.



Edited, Jul 11th 2009 5:53am by Hyanmen
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#2 Jul 08 2009 at 10:48 AM Rating: Good
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Well it appears to be Japanese only so far.

I'm curious if they'll eventually have allow NA and EU players into either the closed or open beta. I have a suspicion that the beta will be JA only though, all the way up until the release.
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#3 Jul 08 2009 at 10:51 AM Rating: Decent
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What's up with the 'offline' thing though.. just a name for the beta, or Phantasy Star Universe v2?
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#4 Jul 08 2009 at 10:54 AM Rating: Good
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Hyanmen wrote:
What's up with the 'offline' thing though.. just a name for the beta, or Phantasy Star Universe v2?

The first beta may not actually be connected to the internet. I haven't ever heard of an MMO company doing it before, but I could totally see them having the very first beta testers not actually be on a server together.
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I don't believe it to be honest.

I wonder the original source of the image...I am pretty skeptical.

I looked at the Japanese FFXIV website and this information is definitely not posted there.

I won't be believing any beta information unless I get it directly from SE themselves.
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#6 Jul 08 2009 at 10:59 AM Rating: Good
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Might be best for now to remain skeptical, but we should get a confirmation pretty soon in any case.
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Hyanmen wrote:
Might be best for now to remain skeptical, but we should get a confirmation pretty soon in any case.

Skepticism aside, I see no reason to worry about it. If it is true, this beta is clearly JP only. If it isn't true, this beta doesn't exist.

Either way, we have no chance to win the contest and be a part of it.

EDIT: "Application from official site"

I might be missing it, but I don't see the application on the official site that the picture you linked mentions.

Edited, Jul 8th 2009 3:03pm by Karelyn
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#8 Jul 08 2009 at 11:02 AM Rating: Good
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I'm guessing if its real then "offline" is just a name for the beta to signify that it will only be available to select people.
#9 Jul 08 2009 at 11:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm skeptical. why would they need an offline beta? No other offline game as far as I know has had a public beta testing period before release.

It's usually when a bunch of players start playing together that mmos get broken and things the developers didn't foresee tend to happen, and that's why they have beta testing. I don't know, looks like a fake to me. I'll wait until I get an email. Can anyone translate the text on the image?
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I'll ask Elmer to take a look once he gets up, but could the OP tell us where he found the image?
#11 Jul 08 2009 at 11:07 AM Rating: Good
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Found it from BG's FFXIV forum. The guy there was linked to the pic by his JP friend and he translated it to English.

I know Japanese have tricked us before too, so it could be anything right now really.
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Starts 09/09/09? Really? lol...
Anyway how did you come across this because this is on a file sharing site making its credibility incredibly small.
#13 Jul 08 2009 at 11:19 AM Rating: Decent
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It could be that it came with the 'news' email you subscribe to at FFXIV's official site, which is why it isn't showing up there?
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Hyanmen wrote:
It could be that it came with the 'news' email you subscribe to at FFXIV's official site, which is why it isn't showing up there?

Well if that is so, why doesn't the application the picture references as being on the FFXI official website on the official website?

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That was one very mauled sentence. Oh well, I think it still gets the point across.
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#15 Jul 08 2009 at 11:22 AM Rating: Good
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I didn't get any email news with anything like this. My ex says there is nothing on the dev blog -

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Apparently that's the hot spot or something and it would have been posted there. I dunno, can't read a word of it other than Final Fantasy.

EDIT: I would also be very surprised (shocked, even) for BG to get info before Alla.

Edited, Jul 8th 2009 3:25pm by Torrence
#16 Jul 08 2009 at 11:25 AM Rating: Decent
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It seems to be a JP only beta for now, which would explain that we haven't received it but the JP did.

Idk Karelyn (if I understood your point, Lol), maybe they're slow on updating the official site?
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I might be missing it, but I don't see the application on the official site that the picture you linked mentions.


I think if the application starts in the middle of august, that's when you'd see the application on the official site come up.
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#18 Jul 08 2009 at 11:28 AM Rating: Good
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The only plausible thing I can see of this being real is if it was distributed through the email list system so only those who registered for it would see it, but I would think we would have more confirmation by now. Im inclined to say not real till there is more confirmation from other people out there.
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I might be missing it, but I don't see the application on the official site that the picture you linked mentions.


I think if the application starts in the middle of august, that's when you'd see the application on the official site come up.

Oh good point, I misread the original post.

So according to the picture, you cannot apply until 8/3/2009 through 8/30/2009, and the beta itself begins on 9/9/2009

Then it would make sense why there isn't an application on the official site. My mistake.
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A lot of MMOs do local tests first. If it's an offline beta, they're running through the low level content to make sure the client is stable and able to connect to a unique instance of the server (I think). Then, once they see that's stable, they'll start putting 200-500 people together at a time, and it grows from there. Local phase-ins aren't uncommon. Then, once it's stable on a local level, I guess they'll branch out. Who knows.

Also, as far as we know, this could be a 'very closed alpha test'.
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A lot of MMOs do local tests first. If it's an offline beta, they're running through the low level content to make sure the client is stable and able to connect to a unique instance of the server (I think). Then, once they see that's stable, they'll start putting 200-500 people together at a time, and it grows from there. Local phase-ins aren't uncommon. Then, once it's stable on a local level, I guess they'll branch out. Who knows.

Also, as far as we know, this could be a 'very closed alpha test'.


Thats how it looked to me too. I am not sure how real this is, but if it is this is likely what would happen. Most MMORPGs go through a friends and family closed alpha testing where they test localized instances and when those instances are not being tested they have offline tests to check for crashes within the actual game environment like solo content, texture and model placement issues, and general stability like quests that go on internal loops on accident etc. Once all the zones are ready for more widespread testing they will open it up to a larger population. 7k for beta is extremely small even for a close beta, sounds like end of the road alpha testing to me. Most heavy closed betas get enough people for 2 server populations at least.

On the flipside if this is real, real closed beta testing internationally might actually be right around the corner after all and we could see beta start at the end of the year/early 2010 (January and February).
#22 Jul 08 2009 at 12:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Karelyn wrote:
Well it appears to be Japanese only so far.

I'm curious if they'll eventually have allow NA and EU players into either the closed or open beta. I have a suspicion that the beta will be JA only though, all the way up until the release.


I imagine they'll want NA and EU players in the open beta, if for no other reason than to find localization issues.

For closed beta and alpha testing, I don't see any reason they'd want non JP testers.

Edited, Jul 8th 2009 4:20pm by KarlHungis
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I'm not sure where I read it, but I could've sworn SE said the beta would be open to EU and NA players as well as JP.
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#24 Jul 08 2009 at 12:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah I am with everyone else for waiting for more proof. I would hope they send the e-mails out to more people. Speaking of which did anyone get a confirmation e-mail back when you signed up on the site? I never received one.
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I'm disappointed none of you have faked an English version yet. Smiley: disappointed
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I'm not sure where I read it, but I could've sworn SE said the beta would be open to EU and NA players as well as JP.


They did say that, and said that particular beta would last longer than the FFXI beta which lasted several months in Japan. It was also open in the sense that there was no NDA. Kind a weird actually when you think about it, most open betas usually only last a couple months because they have extensive NDA based closed betas to do all the behind scenes stuff but FFXI they didn't do that and from the interviews so far it sounds like they plan to do it again this time too.

However a localized closed beta makes sense, it would be a horrible idea to have the only beta open up internationally from the start because than bugs and issues would come in from multiple language barriers and overwelm the localization staff. Even though I want to play this game as soon as possible, I would actually prefer the Japanese get the beta first for several months just so it goes smoother and thus comes out quicker. The localization staff can work behind the scenes while that beta is going and have a sizable open beta maybe 5 months before the release or something.

Edited, Jul 8th 2009 5:01pm by croythegreat
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Hmm, as much as I'd like things to be different, I guess it's a fake after all. For one thing, the Japanese is definitely not perfect in style or wording. For example, the beta period announced misses the typical "~" in between the start date and the end date of signup. Next, if 2009/08/03 is a monday (月) indeed (too lazy to look it up), 2009/08/30 can hardly be a monday (月) as well. Third, the sentence 当選発表: 当選者へのメールによる当選告知とする is awkward; in my opinion, the "とする" is, while not false per se, much more unusual than a "となる" (which sounds by far more official and polite)... So either some SE PR-assistant will be fired, or some funny (and admittedly: rather capable) student of Japanese is, well,... very funny.

P.S.: And lastly: if this had been announced via mail to jp subscribers, I guess I would know, hahahahaha!

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Edited, Jul 8th 2009 5:11pm by Rinsui
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zerotorr wrote:
I'm not sure where I read it, but I could've sworn SE said the beta would be open to EU and NA players as well as JP.


Indeed, but they didn't specify _which_ beta the EU and NA would have access to. It could be the final open beta only.
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I'm disappointed none of you have faked an English version yet. Smiley: disappointed


They're waiting for friday.
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Do they mean the "main page" as in the FFXIV online main page, or Square Enix main page?
Curious, because I want to be the first person to look at FFXIV :-P.
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I believed they once mentioned that they'll see how well cross-nationality works during Beta, so uhh... that'd be a little hard in a Japanese only Beta imho.

As for the credibility of the picture...the Jpeg appears to be highly compressed, which I doubt SE would do, looks like someone just didn't lrn2photoshop.
The font is different, this could be a give away

And finally...looks close...what does the filename say? "FFIV_BETA", I'm not saying this is direct copy of Square-enix, if it were real it'd be print screened, BUT this makes it seem as though a over excited fanboy just wanted to trick people so fast he forgot the real name... which makes it look ever so slightly fake.
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I believed they once mentioned that they'll see how well cross-nationality works during Beta, so uhh... that'd be a little hard in a Japanese only Beta imho.


Betas are usually done in phases to test out very specific aspects of the game one at a time. The first one is usually just to see how the gameplay is for the first 10-20 levels or so.

Edited, Jul 8th 2009 4:02pm by Yogtheterrible
#33 Jul 08 2009 at 3:10 PM Rating: Good
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Oi. Snap out of it already. It's a fake. ^^
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It is a fake.
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#35 Jul 10 2009 at 9:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Fake unless SE puts out something official!
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i bet its fake as well.

but the offline thing is most likly what real companies do... i mean think about it..

if u bring people from all over the place to sit and test your game in the confines of your own set studio or w/e ppl can't take screenshots and upload them on the net. the devs could also get direct 1on1 feedback on aspects about the game. much easier to find out if a person likes something face to face.

no one will believe them either since 1 persons word doesn't mean anything in the sea of text.
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MMOS aren't beta tested offline. I've betaed WoW, AoC, Lineage 2, and Champions they were all online.
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