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#1 Jul 12 2009 at 9:44 PM Rating: Default
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Having Mithra's Taru's, Elfies, and Galka's to play is a nice touch for the FFXI fanbase that will be moving over to FFXIV but I think a lot more excitement would be generated if they had at least one more new race to play... Whether it's an old FF race ressurected or a completely brand new race just something a little different would be pretty sweet.

If we are going to be stuck with the FFXI races with new names then PURLEEZE SE make them a little more customizable. All we have at the moment is Humes with different bits added on. Galka = Big Bulky Male Humes with animalistic facial features (Oxen Humes), Taru's = Tiny Fat humes with a silly nose and a delightfully cute /panic motion that can be seen as a dance. Elvaan = Big Tall Humes with Long pointy Ears. Mithra = Slender female humes with catlike features and a tale (actually Mithra were probably the least Humish of the lot). As I said if we are going to only have the five FFXI races with different names let us be able to modify their appearence, skin colour, hair style and colour, and a few different choices for facial types. This atleast would allow us to distance each race from the others and give our PC's some individuality.

I think providing the same races and then making them even more Hume like is a strange move for SE to make "Let's remove the Galka's tail and we can call it a new race....ummm how's about FAT UGLY HUME as the new race name?". Until recently I thought the continual inclusion of Choccobo's, Moogles, and Guys named Cid was a fan service, and semi inside joke/salute to the FF faithful, but now I am starting to wonder if its not more a case of stunted creativity on the part of the art dept.... either that or they seem to think that their user base (the players) are all Moron's that will take the same regurgitated designs year after year.

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I would also like to see new races in FFXIV, but I wouldn't get your hopes up.

All the concept art on the official site merely suggests that age customization for existing races might make its way into FFXIV...What some players have identified as a "Gria" looks like an Elvaan or Mithra child with something behind her head to me. There is also the fact that no new races appear in the E3 trailer or the official logo (at least as far as I can tell).

And then there are bits and pieces from various interviews that seem to suggest that the world of FFXIV will merely be comprised of slightly modified incarnations of the existing five races:

IGN wrote:
Q: What do we know about the setting and the story?
A: It takes place on an all-new Final Fantasy world known as "Eorzea." Though it does share some monsters and races from Final Fantasy XI, they're not direct representations and have been altered in multiple ways that make them unique to Eorzea. The similarities in races will allow experienced FFXI players to create a new FFXIV character that looks somewhat comparable.


IGN wrote:
Q: Does it have a direct connection to Final Fantasy XI?
In some ways, yes it does. Not only does it share the same development team as the FF11, but the game will also allow players to create a character that is similar to their current Final Fantasy XI. Square Enix has also revealed to IGN that it is currently finding a solution that will let you transfer your character's names from FFXI to FFXIV.


IGN wrote:
Q: What are the ties to Final Fantasy XI, if any?
A: While you may have noticed that some of the same type of races appeared in the trailer, the world of FFXIV is different from FFXI. The reason that we made the races similar to the FFXI races is so FFXI players could choose a similar type of race in the new game. For example, in movies, you might have an actor that plays many different roles. Please, think of it that way.


IGN wrote:
Q: What will FFXIV have in common with FFXI?
A: The game will be taking place in an entirely new world, but the game’s setting and characters look similar to XI’s. To help players feel more at ease in the FFXIV universe, we specifically chose to model the new characters after the old ones. We will of course be drawing on bits and pieces of FFXI and the lessons learned to guide us, but our greatest resource is the fans. With XI, our original idea was an emphasis on partying. With FFXIV, we’re working to support both solo play and an engaging party system.


Don't get me wrong, it is definitely possible that FFXIV will have new races, but based on what we have to go on so far, it doesn't seem all that likely.
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I am kinda suprized that they keep on shoveling us the same lack of innovation/creativity and they turn it into some kind of "we did this because we love you and we know that you wouldn't want to play a FF game without Choccobo's, Moogle's, Cids, Airships, Crystals, Efeminate Male Lead Chars, etc, etc.... what they really mean is "were do bloody lazy to actually do something mildly creative so were going to give you choccobo's with a FFXIV makeover and then you will be happy and we won't have to work any harder than we have to...... ohh and btw if your still buying this line of creatively devoid BS then we promise you that we will continue to provide you with the service and charge you $12.95 for all our creative hard work".
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I am kinda suprized that they keep on shoveling us the same lack of innovation/creativity and they turn it into some kind of "we did this because we love you and we know that you wouldn't want to play a FF game without Choccobo's, Moogle's, Cids, Airships, Crystals, Efeminate Male Lead Chars, etc, etc.... what they really mean is "were do bloody lazy to actually do something mildly creative so were going to give you choccobo's with a FFXIV makeover and then you will be happy and we won't have to work any harder than we have to...... ohh and btw if your still buying this line of creatively devoid BS then we promise you that we will continue to provide you with the service and charge you $12.95 for all our creative hard work".


It's kinda unfair to say that imo =/ Are western developers never accused of laziness when the games have the normal Humans, Elfs, Dwarfs, Gnomes and other normal fantasy races instead of something original? SE created their own 'normal fantasy races', it'd be a bit too much to expect them to create new ones for every title they create since nobody else does that either =P.
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#5 Jul 12 2009 at 10:18 PM Rating: Good
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I have a feeling I'm going to be extremely disappointed with FFXIV's character creation.
As akirussan's post and SE's released art have shown they seen to just be making copypasta of FFXI's characters. I hope they're holding back but it just doesn't feel right that the logo and that drawing on the site include nothing new.
I think in one of SE's interviews they said the races and looks in FFXI were limited due to the PS2 and having a 56k cap on the connection. I'd like to think they'd make up for this in a new game.
#6 Jul 13 2009 at 1:27 PM Rating: Default
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If all the western developers had been releasing the same flagship title for 14 releases (and probably twice as many years) and they were still issuing the same Key Chars and mob types then I would say the same thing to them also.

You are right in some respects that there is a finite amount of creativity one can add from one addition of a game to the next, but to re issue roughly the same char models (how much can you really change a choccobo, its a brightly colored Ostrich) and not include anything new seems like a bit of a cop out.

It's like Honda only producing the Civic and not bothering to design any new cars, and claiming "well its the most popular car in the world, so we thought you all didn't want any new cars on the market". If SE wants to reissue the old familiar favorites into its games then thats great, I love Choccobo's but I also expect to see something new, and since we are going to be stuck looking at our PC's/Chars for our entire FFXIV experience then I would hope they would spice it up a bit.

The big FFXIV announcement trailer had Galka's and Mithra's fighting on board a ship and to be honest they didn't look much different in race and clothing from what I could find in FFXI. Whats that famous saying from one of those Shakespeare plays "What's in a name? that which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet" the same thing applies to Galka's.... although I am pretty sure they don't smell that great.... It's a Galka with no **** tail. The char designs for FFXI were not all that inspiring to begin with so I am not sure it really benefits either the old FFXI player base or the new potential player base to have the same races running around.

I think the whole "We are keeping Char designs similar to the races in FFXI because we wanted FFXI players to feel comfortable switching to FFXIV" is maxing out the BS meter. Lets be honest are you really not going to play the game if they didn't have Galka's with no tails... are tail less Galka's that integral to the sucess of FFXIV? If SE wanted to keep to their already established rota of races they could introduce Viera's, Bangaa's, Moogles, and more. The fact that they don't is not because they really, really want the FFXI community to not be freaked out by new playable races, its because its a **** of a lot easier to take the XI races lop off body parts and repackage it as a new race.

As I mentioned earlier if the five new races of XIV are going to be the mutilated cast off's of FFXI then at least make them uber customizeable. With the current generation of PC's and the capabilities of Next Gen Consoles the whole "system limitations" excuse isn't going to work, and the competition MMO's are all very deep on the char customisation front, it would be a real shame to see this game be released and already be behind the competition from day one.
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Why because XI was made about 10 years ago? The character creation at least probably was.

They've had years to learn and see what the competition is doing, they have no reason to limit us as much as they did last time.

I highly doubt they're going to just keep it at the five. They said they wanted to make the transition easier for XI players but have nowhere said that it's only 5.
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I like and understand their idea for keeping the same races as FFXI, but it would be great if they added atleast 1 new one for those of us who like to see something different from game to game.
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I have a feeling there will be at least 1 new race, possibly even 2. Call me optimistic, but I think SE is playing it very close to the vest on this one. Also, if SE wants FFXIV to compete in the current market, they'll have **** good character customization. They really have no excuse since they were sitting on the sidelines developing while some MMOs with excellent character creation systems came out. SE is a business and to compete, you can't just do it well, you have to do it better.
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#10 Jul 14 2009 at 12:35 AM Rating: Decent
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New game.....was expecting all new races. Seems daft to just reissue the old ones, though they will look different in high def I suppose. Seems like a wasted opportunity though.

Wouldn't be final fantasy without chocobo's, moogles or Cid though.
Not sure why nucking is against those as they weren't playable races.
#12 Jul 14 2009 at 4:32 AM Rating: Good
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I imagine if they add a new race, that would be the most picked race because a lot of people want something new. I am fine with the old races myself as long as there is more customizable features this time around.
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New races would be great. My one wish for XIV is to be able to make a dark brown skinned hume or elvaan. Even if they don't come through with a new race, we can at least look different than the other 100 Face 1's out there.
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Whenever I think about how easy it is to tweek a couple of things and it still didnt get done in FFXI - I think it just smacks of racism (whether its true or not, it just feels that way)

It'll be interesting to see if they dont implement it in FFXIV if some African-American or British Black organisation organises a boycott of the game.
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I am not against Choccobo's, Cid, or Moogles specifically, but I am against SE re issuing the same designs because they were to lazy to innovate or really provide us with something new and then claiming that they decided to do this as some huge favor to the returning FFXI player base. If there going to be lazy and do the bare minimum to get a product on the market and trade in on the FF name to be the primary factor in sales, the least they could do is not claim its a possitive thing that they are doing to benefit us.

I love FF games and I loved my time with FFXI, and hopefully SE will prove me wrong in the long run and FFXIV will be released with tons of customizable char creation and one or two new races. However even if they do have customization up the wazoo and new races I still find it irritating that SE seems to think the player base is so cotton headed in buying the "We brought back the 5 old XI races as a special favor to the player base, now we expect your praise and gratitude" ... I don't know maybe there are people out there that are really pumped about playing a new game with the same char, regardless of whether you begin XIV with the same race you had in XI, I do hope that most of you can see when your being sold the same product with prettier packaging.
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I don't think you guys need to worry about any of these things. This game is a next generation MMORPG. You barely saw anything resembling a game in the trailer so I think the negative speculation should be shrugged off. They know what they are doing and they are very aware how competitive the MMO market is at the moment with giants like Blizzard and NCSoft literally dominating the market. They would have to be aware since they have FFXI still in the market with a very small fraction of the MMO population.

As far as the new races, I can pretty much guarantee there will be new races.
http://img406.imageshack.us/i/51838428.jpg/

That's not Elvaan. The inside of her ears are pink. I'm betting all my chips on this being a new race.

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#18 Jul 14 2009 at 10:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Hopefully your right, and I am wrong but if this is the case then you would think that the XIV devs would be keen to release info that highlighted at least one additional new race, or presented in game footage of chars that looked a lot different to the FFXI chars we know.

To be honest even if they just released the five confirmed races but with heavily improved customization I would be happy. To see humes that aren't all mighty white caucasian would be a pleasant suprise.

Lastly have you ever looked at a friend with really big ears who is standing with their back to the sun?, notice how the sun shines through the thin skin/membrane of their ears and makes it seem more pinkish? well I think thats what the artist is depicting in the picture Lambon just posted, I think this is still an elvaan.
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The inside of her ears being pink is a trick of cartilage and light. If you hold up a flashlight behind your ear, you'll notice the light shines through the thinner parts as a deep red. If she weren't sitting in front of a light source, it would probably be skin toned.

What makes her, and the silhouette behind her, not a traditional Elvaan is that her ears are jutting out perpendicular to her head. Which is what allowed light to get behind them in the first place. While there is alot more jutting out going on in the Elvaan race than your typical Elf Archetype - there's other figures being depicted in that picture that has ears more flush to the skull. (esp: man just to the right of her)

Whether or not this is indicative of a new race, or merely a cosmetic option within the new Elvaan race remains to be seen.

Thinking on that, for all we know the Galka-esque figures could just be a cosmetic option within the human race. 5th finger added, tail removed, proportions and posture corrected. All that visually separated them from human beings has been removed. SE did take pains to to throw the word "some" in front of "races". They generally danced around linking a direct correlation between the races then and now, but had no qualms saying you would be able to create a visual equivalent of your FFXI character. If it were simply a case of resurrecting the 5 races, there's no need to be so dodgy about that when you've already admitted the visual equivalency.

Or maybe I'd like to think all this obsessive homogenization was for a reason.
Maybe condense the previous races into fewer to make room for new races, while still keeping something you can relate back to your FFXI character in some form. Because the only other option was that SE removed what little flavor text there was for the sake of being boring.

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#20 Jul 14 2009 at 11:10 AM Rating: Decent
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I think Zemzelette has a point there, although I think having customization so deep that you are able to take a basic hume model and morph it into something more galka like would eliminate the need for specific races... it takes a lot less work to change a Hume to an Elvaan than a Hume to a Galka. Maybe this is what is planned maybe we will all start with a hume model as base and then we create the look as we see fit (within certain limitations of course).

I think as cool as this sounds it is a little unlikely though as we need to have characters fit certain dimensions for the equipment designs to fit the char created.

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I would also like to see new races in FFXIV, but I wouldn't get your hopes up.

All the concept art on the official site merely suggests that age customization for existing races might make its way into FFXIV...What some players have identified as a "Gria" looks like an Elvaan or Mithra child with something behind her head to me. There is also the fact that no new races appear in the E3 trailer or the official logo (at least as far as I can tell).

And then there are bits and pieces from various interviews that seem to suggest that the world of FFXIV will merely be comprised of slightly modified incarnations of the existing five races:

I don't know. I think it's actually very likely there'll be at least a couple new races. It just makes too much sense not to do, both for new players (who might want the game distanced a little from XI) and old players (who might be tired of the same old races).

Like you said, the concept art probably doesn't show any new races (in any case I hope they would be more interesting than just a taru with horns), but I wouldn't expect it to. A new race will be a big announcement that they're going to want to play for all it's worth when the time comes, not bury it in the middle of all the other new information when the game was announced.

The logo argument is more compelling, but it's still far from proof. The logo probably doesn't show every job either, but we know there'll be lots of them. Or it could be that the FFXI races are considered the "core" races in the story, and other races aren't as central. It could be a lot of things.
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Whenever I think about how easy it is to tweek a couple of things and it still didnt get done in FFXI - I think it just smacks of racism (whether its true or not, it just feels that way)

It'll be interesting to see if they dont implement it in FFXIV if some African-American or British Black organisation organises a boycott of the game.


Oh my god? Are you serious? I didn't see any japanese, indian, native american, aliens, smurfs, jedi's in there either maybe those groups might consider a boycott the game too.

It's a game at the end of the day, Can we please leave real life issues out of this?

What next? OMG FFXIV WON'T ALLOW *** MARRIAGE.

It's a game. Different world, different rules.
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Zemzelette wrote:
What makes her, and the silhouette behind her, not a traditional Elvaan is that her ears are jutting out perpendicular to her head. Which is what allowed light to get behind them in the first place. While there is alot more jutting out going on in the Elvaan race than your typical Elf Archetype - there's other figures being depicted in that picture that has ears more flush to the skull.


She looks like a FFXI Elvaan to me. For comparison's sake:

FFXIV Artwork

FFXI Elvaan female Face 1

The ear shape is different, but that varies quite a lot from model to model in FFXI, too. Compare the ears on Face 1 to the ears on Face 4.

Not that that really means anything. She could be a different race for all we know. Time will tell, I guess.
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Oh my god? Are you serious? I didn't see any japanese, indian, native american, aliens, smurfs, jedi's in there either maybe those groups might consider a boycott the game too.

It's a game at the end of the day, Can we please leave real life issues out of this?

That's easy to say when you're not the one being excluded. I would never accuse the designers of racism (insensitivity maybe), but it's not unreasonable for players to want characters who resemble themselves.

For the record, there were Japanese-like faces in FFXI, and at least one that could pass for native. My understanding is that the lack of dark-skinned options was due to technical limitations. Because their method of switching gear was to change out the entire body part model with each item, adding a dark skin color would have meant creating (and storing in memory) a new model for every piece of equipment in the game. When you remember how reluctant they were to add new gear designs due to memory constraints, you can understand what a problem that would have been.

Hopefully with the PS3 they can implement some kind of slider method that can alter skin color on the fly without running into this issue.

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Actually, I remember that very debate coming up very often and very loudly on the Allakhazam FFXI forum. And hey, why the **** not? There's no technical limitations to blame for this.
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My understanding is that the lack of dark-skinned options was due to technical limitations. Because their method of switching gear was to change out the entire body part model with each item, adding a dark skin color would have meant creating (and storing in memory) a new model for every piece of equipment in the game. When you remember how reluctant they were to add new gear designs due to memory constraints, you can understand what a problem that would have been.

This is exactly right. Your character was actually split into multiple pieces (face, head gear, body gear, hand gear, leg gear, footwear) that load and act independently but gave the appearance of a complete person.

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Actually, I remember that very debate coming up very often and very loudly on the Allakhazam FFXI forum. And hey, why the **** not? There's no technical limitations to blame for this.

I remember there being a petition to SE about this as well. This comes up suprisingly often on these forums as well.
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Actually, I remember that very debate coming up very often and very loudly on the Allakhazam FFXI forum. And hey, why the **** not? There's no technical limitations to blame for this.


I know it did. And I was very oyvey about that.

If the game was set on Earth. With Earthlings, Yeah you're right there would be an issue, I agree, but this is supposed to be a completely fantasy world. People need to stop making issues about every thing.

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That's easy to say when you're not the one being excluded.


And that's rather presumptuious.
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If the game was set on Earth. With Earthlings, Yeah you're right there would be an issue, I agree, but this is supposed to be a completely fantasy world. People need to stop making issues about every thing.

It's a fantasy world with plenty of similarities to the real world, and populated by real people. Of course real-world issues are going to transfer over.

When they took the custom of marriage from the real world and brought it into Vana'diel, they brought with it all the controversies that come with that custom. It could never have been any other way. If you don't want the *** marriage debate, you don't bring in marriage at all. If you don't want the race debate, you don't bring in recognizably human characters.

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If the game was set on Earth. With Earthlings, Yeah you're right there would be an issue, I agree, but this is supposed to be a completely fantasy world. People need to stop making issues about every thing.

It's a fantasy world with plenty of similarities to the real world, and populated by real people. Of course real-world issues are going to transfer over.

When they took the custom of marriage from the real world and brought it into Vana'diel, they brought with it all the controversies that come with that custom. It could never have been any other way. If you don't want the *** marriage debate, you don't bring in marriage at all. If you don't want the race debate, you don't bring in recognizably human characters.


Exactly. They could of just as easily established a different concept for partnering characters and called it something completely different.

I'll refrain from getting up on my soapbox again, as this really is a dead horse.
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If the game was set on Earth. With Earthlings, Yeah you're right there would be an issue, I agree, but this is supposed to be a completely fantasy world. People need to stop making issues about every thing.

It's a fantasy world with plenty of similarities to the real world, and populated by real people. Of course real-world issues are going to transfer over.

When they took the custom of marriage from the real world and brought it into Vana'diel, they brought with it all the controversies that come with that custom. It could never have been any other way. If you don't want the *** marriage debate, you don't bring in marriage at all. If you don't want the race debate, you don't bring in recognizably human characters.



I do understand your point and there are plenty of real life simularities, But wouldn't it be better if we accepted them as just similarities for the purpose of immersion and familiarity?
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I do understand your point and there are plenty of real life simularities, But wouldn't it be better if we accepted them as just similarities for the purpose of immersion and familiarity?

Better, maybe. Quieter, at least.

But should we have to? I don't see anything wrong with people calling for changes that make them feel a little more included in the game world.
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I do understand your point and there are plenty of real life simularities, But wouldn't it be better if we accepted them as just similarities for the purpose of immersion and familiarity?


It's naive to think that you can simply pick and choose what parts of the real world you want to incorporate into something like a game. There really isn't any good reason not to implement SSM in a video game if not just to keep people from constantly asking for it.
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That's what I thought first too. But looking at all the elf-type characters in solely this one picture, they have different ears.

With the subject-in-question the ear is perpendicular to the head, much like their FFXI ancestors.
When the subject is facing us their ear is flat exposed to the camera, when they're in a portrait angle their ear is foreshortened. The silhouette over the subject's shoulder reinforces this.

But the male and female elvaan-like race flanking the sides of the picture sport ears that are parallel to the head. When these subjects are facing us their ears are foreshortened, and when they're in a portrait angle their ear is flat exposed to the camera.


I'm assuming this is intentional, because I'm not about to give critique to a professional concept artist.


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Better, maybe. Quieter, at least.

But should we have to? I don't see anything wrong with people calling for changes that make them feel a little more included in the game world.


Honestly I couldn't care less if all the game characters were of different skin tones, I'd be happy for it to be implemented for others but my original post was brought on by the fact somebody suggested we waiting on seeing whether a major group boycotted the game because it didn't include something.

When I first created my character I didn't notice there wasn't any differing skin tones :/ it's not something that particulary concerns me while playing a game ccause at the end of the day that's all it is.

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If they did put in new races, they would have to be totally different than one's that are already in the FF series.
What I mean by this, is that there were no Galkhas, Elvaans, Mithras, and Taru's in any of the other FF's, and they suddenly appeared into FFXI. So don't be expecting Viera or anything like that; expect something new and unique.
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#35 Jul 17 2009 at 5:13 AM Rating: Decent
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It's a possibility I'm stupid or that the metrosexuality fad has changed my perception of things, but I actually thought there was a possibility that "new race" on the FFXIV banquet artwork might have been a male Mithra.
#36 Jul 17 2009 at 8:01 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah alot of people in the forums was talking about the possibility of an male mithra but nothing confirmed by SE. I would like to see a couple new races.
male mithra's/Female Galka's?, How about playing as a moogle?, or something completely new. Time will tell, is it 2010 yet?!?!

Edited, Jul 17th 2009 9:03pm by Ruam
#37 Jul 18 2009 at 12:52 AM Rating: Decent
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I would like them to give us male mithra. Because it's what I would look like closer to as in RL because I'm skinny and short, very agile, has some cat like characteristics and actually has a tail. :D

Maybe I should grow some body hair too. :D
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#38 Jul 19 2009 at 8:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Needs to be more than one new race imo. Two at the very least, if not several more.

I am a bit nervous that there won't be any new races simply because there has been no overt indication that there will be, but I nothing that SE has said has suggested that there WON'T be new races.
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#39 Jul 19 2009 at 11:11 PM Rating: Decent
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After reading this thread, I have come to a few conclusions:

#1: people would like new races
#2: people want *** marriages
#3 people want Male mithras and female Galkas.

So how about we allow *** marriages, but only between 2 female Galkas or 2 Male mithras? In fact, make it a requirement.

**** it would be the best thing I have ever seen in a MMO.

(BTW ITS A GAME, BAN MARRIAGE ENTIRELY.. some of us play to escape that crap, straight or ***.)

EDIT: added the number 2 in there

Edited, Jul 20th 2009 3:12am by Shazaamemt
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