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#1 Jul 21 2009 at 12:47 PM Rating: Decent
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I know with FF XI I tried my hardest to get 75 as fast as possible. I played the game for two years but I felt I had done everything I wanted to do in those two years that I wanted to do so I finished pretty early compared to most people who still play the game since release. This time I am going to take it slow and have as much fun as possible with the game.

So how are you going to do it slow or grind it out?
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#2 Jul 21 2009 at 1:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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As usual, the pace which lets me have the most fun.

#3 Jul 21 2009 at 1:51 PM Rating: Decent
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i am a casual player, i get bored if i play too much. but i really enjoyed playing FFXI, even if my highest level job was only about 40 or so. i will probably do the same in FFXIV.

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#4 Jul 21 2009 at 2:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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I've always been an avid gamer, spending as much time as possible to get to the highest level possible as quickly as possible.

But this time it's going to be very different.

This will be the first MMORPG that I'll be playing while also having a full time job.

Not only that, but I've also realized that, from my past experiences, getting to the top quickly comes with many downsides.

1.) There are very very few people you can do quests with.
Sometimes 10 or less in the entire server. Finding a time when all are online is extremely difficult.
It's more difficult to be successful in your quest if you dislike them. You don't have much of a choice...there is no one else your level.

2.) Everyone expects your help.
Being a much higher level than everyone else may make you admired by some, but sometimes it's only your assistance they covet.
The stronger you are, the more requests you'll get from people to get help.
It starts out innocently enough, but as soon as you help one group kill a boss, the 5 groups behind them also want help and if you refuse it you're ridiculed.
And every so often you get a request from someone who wants you to solo a boss for him/her when he/she could easily do it if he took the time to find a group.
If you deny them you have to deal with a bad attitude sometimes.

If you end up helping everyone you have less time for yourself and everyone wants your help in the future.

3.) You're in the dark.
Especially with new games, you have no idea what you're doing or where to go next because no one else (or very few people) has done it before. So you may spend countless hours meandering through a dungeon that could be finished in 5 minutes.

4.) Smaller list of friends (but closer bonds).
Being high level sometimes means that the people you'll meet and party with is just a select group. You'll be closer to them, but you won't have the opportunity to meet and play with many other people.

5.) Lack of things to do toward the end.
Maybe not the case in FFXI (and who knows about FFXIV), but in the games I played the most enjoyable parts were the early parts. The higher level you got the less there seemed to do. More grinding, less questing. More boring.

6.) More responsibility.
Everyone begins to expect things from you. Not only help but also answers on how to do a quest, a dungeon, crafting...everything. Just taking the time to respond to all of these requests (even with a no) can be really time consuming and annoying, and really distract you from actually enjoying the game.

For all of those reasons, I'll only be playing a couple of hours a day.
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#5 Jul 21 2009 at 3:53 PM Rating: Decent
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I enjoyed grinding for hours to level as fast as possible. I got scholar to level 70 in 22 days. To me there was no greater accomplishment than gaining levels faster than most others and than being able to lend your "power" to help lower levels. There were obvious drawbacks to this approach. My gear wasn't that good and I had little money to buy stuff cause all I did was level.
I had a friend that started the game the same time as me but he decided not to level his character that much but instead level woodworking. When I was level 50 he was level 12. He also had over one million gil (back when that was rare) and I had close to ten thousand gil. In about 3 months we both had lvl 75 characters but he was able to enjoy the game more because he had a skill under his belt and I was playing catch-up.
All that being said I am saving my vacation days to take off at least 1 week when FFXIV and I will "level as fast as I can.
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#6 Jul 21 2009 at 4:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Whichever is the most fun is what I'll do. I personally would like a slower paced game that emphasizes the journey as much, if not more, than the destination. I wouldn't mind a grind if they disguised it as something else (say, create a ton of dungeons you can crawl through that adds to the main storyline) as long as we are given a solo alternative for when we only have half an hour or so to play (you could easily make those same dungeons soloable).
#7 Jul 21 2009 at 5:12 PM Rating: Decent
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advance as quickly as possible. i disgusted the fact that Japan release of FFXI was WAY before NA release. NA was always walking behind the facts. It wasnt really fair. Im really grateful they're doing worldwide release this time.

Edited, Jul 21st 2009 9:12pm by Akkio
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#8 Jul 21 2009 at 5:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Level as fast as possible and enjoy the journey. I compare this to like a good piece of cake, I wouldn't eat the piece of cake slowly because I wanted to enjoy it longer. Instead, I would just get another piece if I wanted too, same as I will just level another job if I want to, while still enjoying the endgame content.
#9 Jul 21 2009 at 5:58 PM Rating: Good
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I'd really like to take my time and level at an even pace, but I'll probably end up blowing through early levels until I burn out for a bit.

The problem is that most MMORPGs focus heavily on end game content. Content for mid levels is only there to keep the player from getting bored while reaching level cap. High levels players have no incentive most of the time to visit lower level content, and so that proves that lower level content was never a goal of the game.

I think that max level content focus is a problem for many MMORPGs. It creates the need to race by levels, because everything you do at lowers levels is largely a waste. Get out of the lower levels as fast as possible so that you waste as little time as possible. It also changes the leveling processing from being less of a learning curve for new players and more into an entry barrier.

I think FFXI had an accidentally good idea in offering level capped content. It is something I'd like to see expanded and offered again in FFXIV. I'd like for people to be able to say "Halfway to level cap is all I need," and be able to do lower level raids and treat that level as endgame for themselves.
#10 Jul 21 2009 at 6:03 PM Rating: Decent
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HocusP wrote:
Level as fast as possible and enjoy the journey. I compare this to like a good piece of cake, I wouldn't eat the piece of cake slowly because I wanted to enjoy it longer. Instead, I would just get another piece if I wanted too, same as I will just level another job if I want to, while still enjoying the endgame content.

While I disagree with your statement I rather enjoyed the analogy, being a baker (by hobby, not by trade).
#11 Jul 22 2009 at 10:34 AM Rating: Decent
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With FFXI I didn't get to 75 till early 2009 and hadn't gotten through much of the storyline content in the game as a result. So with XIV I'm hoping to be on top of the game for once.
#12 Jul 22 2009 at 10:38 AM Rating: Good
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it took me well over a year to get my 75 the first time, mostly, cuz i switched jobs a couple times. But im much older than I was at FFXI release, and as such, have less free time. Ill prob play an hour or two every night or every-other night. But i am in no rush to be one of the first to hit the lvl cap. Im gonna take it slow and steady and enjoy my time, like i did the first time around.
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#13 Jul 22 2009 at 10:47 AM Rating: Decent
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While I disagree with your statement I rather enjoyed the analogy, being a baker (by hobby, not by trade).

I mean who really eats a piece of cake very slowly just so they can enjoy it longer. You could eat very slowly and enjoy it for longer but most people don't do it. I don't mean rush through the cake either and get another piece. I mean everybody eats at a different pace, just like everybody plays at a different pace, my pace is just fast. So I will use my normal pace which is fast and enjoy the journey, and if i'm not full of leveling (like I probally won't be), I will just level up my next job. While I'm leveling up my next job, I still have the luxory of enjoying the endgame content with my first job.
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