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#1 Aug 12 2009 at 12:07 AM Rating: Good
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I was thinking about how often in XI I hear people criticize SE for not making the servers regional instead of international to avoid problems with the language/cultural barriers we face as players from all around the world. Do you think SE should go with the same method for servers, or something else?

Personally I'd like the system to stay the same. I've made a lot of friends from Europe and Asia that I wouldn't have had the opportunity to meet otherwise and have been able to improve my French due to being able to speak with people in other countries. Also, there isn't a big window in which there is low activity in the game because it's primetime somewhere in the world almost all of the time, which makes all night binges seem a bit less lonely.

I'd appreciate a better auto-translate system, though.
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#2 Aug 12 2009 at 12:51 AM Rating: Decent
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how often in XI I hear people criticize SE for not making the servers regional instead of international


never heard that <.< sure, there is the anoying "jponry" thing sometimes, but that's not worth regional server

but better auto-translate, (Yes, please)
#3 Aug 12 2009 at 1:26 AM Rating: Decent
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It'd be kind of nice just to know that the people you're playing with you could potentially meet irl if you wanted to.

But I'm not sure if that's a big enough of an advantage.
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#4 Aug 12 2009 at 2:08 AM Rating: Decent
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something like is already in ff11 isn't it ? the little character tag on the searchs results(ok, it isn't really intuitive, and most people didn't put it)
#5 Aug 12 2009 at 2:48 AM Rating: Good
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After... 4 years of playing FFXI, I have never heard anyone complain about international servers. In fact, I think its one of the more celebratory aspects of FFXI.

I have met many players from Final Fantasy XI, some from way across Europe. If you make friends with a good group of people, then just decide to have a big weekend somewhere central :)
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#6 Aug 12 2009 at 3:09 AM Rating: Good
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If they keep international server this time i hope we are not going to have a small ping lag again japanese players , i heard some people arguing with the fact that japanese had better ping and could see a mob pop half a seconde before us.

my 2 cents.
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#7 Aug 12 2009 at 4:59 AM Rating: Decent
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whether or not the servers are regional would not be an issue at all if grouped tasks didn't require more than maybe 4 players. The fact we had to make a full party of 6 was a pain since even tho we could grind with less people, we can't escape that nagging desire to up our efficiency with a full allowable group (before FoV). Then you have scheduled endgame events where the goal is usually to have 18 or more dedicated players to make these events worthwhile.

anything that requires a large amount of players requires dedication and a greater amount of coordination. This of course makes things less casual friendly when you can't just pop in to try and achieve those endgame tasks and pop out, especially when you're in line with 18 or more people to get one item.

The less people you have to coordinate with and the less dedication thats required the less the issue of what region your fellow players are from.
#8 Aug 12 2009 at 5:29 AM Rating: Default
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I doubt Square would impliment regional servers in FFXIV.

And honestly? If they did, I'd probably go ahead and join a Japanese server anyway. They are a hellofalot nicer than a lot of the English speaking playerbase.
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#9 Aug 12 2009 at 8:14 AM Rating: Decent
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I personally would have liked Regional Servers in FFXI for only one reason. For scheduling events that fit with my GMT TimeZone :p

There were like no real successfull EU Shells on most Servers and I don't like playing in the vastly midrange of all. I like seeing/fighting/working out strategies for things before they are killed by 80% of all people and therefore it kinda sucked to be "forced" to play in CST/PST TimeZone, especially with HNM Time Windows changing all over the weeks so you could never be online at the same time to deal with that, you must be ready to come online like in the middle of the night if the TimeWindow "forces" you.

Other than that I appreciated international servers, I wouldn't mind to see them again in FFXIV, just with the exception -> EU players start to get skillz in FFXIV so you can actually work in your timezone w/o having to "gimp" your Shell :p

And for JP onry players...well I had no problem with that, I just got myself a phrase from the internet that I always wrote when I got "English only" answers. "Basically it said I am not from America, I am from Europa -Y> Germany" and then I usually got invites :p Well Japan still got some love for Germany ;)
#10 Aug 12 2009 at 5:37 PM Rating: Default
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true it is frustrating that at times, you can find your self surrounded by jp in a pt and just feel left out cause you dont understand what there saying thus feeling left out of the conversation, then being place in a situation where as you may think that your the 6th wheel. but the same can go for the jp as well in a vice versa scenario. the fact is there is no better way to communicate to another person in a different language without simply knowing the language in the first place. auto translate maybe good for in game function but for communicating it is as tedious as looking up words in translator book.

having regional servers sounds more of a segregation, while there is some value in having this the concept sound more like two step backwards instead of two steps forward.

only wish there was a better way of getting everyone to communicate in a fairly better manner then tediously scrolling threw a auto translate button or using 3rd party tools, cause i would like to get to know everyone not just anyone.

#11 Aug 12 2009 at 6:00 PM Rating: Decent
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It'd be kind of nice just to know that the people you're playing with you could potentially meet irl if you wanted to.

But I'm not sure if that's a big enough of an advantage.


I like the idea of learning from other cultures and actually learning other languages as you play the game. It makes the game world feel bigger, when you can play with people from across the world. Better and more auto translate functions would help a lot. Plus their are obvious benefits for having mixed servers, like it being busy 24/7.

Ps: You could potentially meet people from other countries in real life also lol, just not as common I guess as regional servers. I wouldn't promote meeting a lot of people from an online game in real life but thats just me. From personally experience, 2 of the JP in my linkshell and 1 from Peru, has took trips to the US and visited with a few people from the shell. The 1 from Peru actually loved it in the US and ended up staying to go to college here. So, it could potentially happen, but it just makes it more difficult.

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#12 Aug 12 2009 at 6:22 PM Rating: Good
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I don't see anything wrong with giving the option to use a regional server or a worldwide server. I played XI for years so I'm familiar with what a worldwide server is like, but to me the opportunity to speak with people from around the world is more or less a novelty.

However, I'm an adult, and I would like to meet more people in my region that share similar interests with me. I could see myself making RL friends as a result of playing on regional servers in FFXIV, which to me would outweigh any advantage of playing on worldwide servers.

And I say this on the basis that I have made friends on FFXI that I've known for years, nearly since the game's release, and would be happy to meet up with irl. I know several of them have met up. Unfortunately they're just too far away for me, and it's not really feasible or practical.

It never hurts to give players options, I guess is what I'm saying.
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#13 Aug 13 2009 at 11:25 AM Rating: Default
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I'd like to see that 1s jump in latency disappear by not having to travel the ocean to get to the servers but other than that I don't mind the current configuration.
#14 Aug 13 2009 at 12:02 PM Rating: Good
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Either way is good, I already know a couple of people that is going to play the game so as long as I can play with them it doesn't matter much. I did like FFXI's multinational servers.
#15 Aug 13 2009 at 12:22 PM Rating: Decent
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worldwide servers are great.

only problem is that it increases the lag.
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#16 Aug 13 2009 at 1:13 PM Rating: Decent
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I like the worldwide servers just because there are always people on no matter what time you're logged in. Worldwide servers will only reinforce the easy accessability of ffxiv. But I agree that a better translator is needed.
#17 Aug 13 2009 at 4:18 PM Rating: Decent
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There is an issue with regional Servers. Say i want to play at 2 in the morning... its gonna be like a ghost town.Id much rather be able to play and have people on no matter what time i play.
#18 Aug 13 2009 at 6:44 PM Rating: Decent
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It's not the language or cultural barriers I'm concerned with but the lag I get from servers being so far away. It totally screwed up NM hunting in FFXI with japanese players able to see the NM before others.

I think there should be regional server but we should have a choice of whether or not to be in the one we live in. Just label each server with it's location and let us choose where we want to go...it solves the lag for those of us who consider it an issue and leaves people open to have a more diverse server if they choose.
#19 Aug 13 2009 at 6:59 PM Rating: Default
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never heard that <.< sure, there is the anoying "jponry" thing sometimes, but that's not worth regional server

but better auto-translate, (Yes, please)


I believe that the whole jponry thing evolved mostly from the fact that the Japanese got FFXI before anyone else and were mostly high level and 75's before the US got a chance to even play.

So when the populations mixed it created a problem. US players ****** off because they thought Japanese players would not help them and Japanese players thinking US players were NooBs becaused they were always wanting something.

Honestly I hope they keep intergrated servers and with everyone getting the game at the same time this time around there won't be as many problems.

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