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#1 Aug 18 2009 at 8:04 AM Rating: Good
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I own an xbox360 and love it for the online gaming but I am not a Sony hater. I've planned on picking up a PS3 all along. When I read, initially, that ffxiv would be PC/PS3 only I was fine with that, but then the rumors of it coming to xbox360 began. I don't want to turn this into a debate on which is the better system overall but simply wonder which system in your opinions would be better for this game. I played ffxi on xbox360 for over a year and loved it before I had to quit, but now I think it might be time to pick up that PS3.
What do you guys think?
#2 Aug 18 2009 at 8:08 AM Rating: Good
Uhm, there's been no announcement of an Xbox 360 version at this time.

Based on the information we have currently there will be no Xbox 360 version at the game's launch.

So, base your decision off of that.
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I will get it for PS3 simply for the reason it will be released before a XBox 360 version, if there is one to come xD

If it would be released on both PS3 and X Box and the X Box Version would be released first, I would get it for X Box 360 :D
To me its only a matter of time, not which system is the better one for FFXIV, especially since I think, in regards to online capabilities, they are both equal.
#4 Aug 18 2009 at 8:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Honestly a PC but your question was XBOX360 or PS3. I don't own either system, but friends have both systems and if I had to choose it would be PS3. XBOX360 is ok but I'm a hater! I'm all Sony as far as consoles go. But with another 300 or so bucks you can build a good gaming pc that will surpass both systems.
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#5 Aug 18 2009 at 8:16 AM Rating: Default
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Surpass in resolution^^

But all in all I prefered the fact that on PS2 and X Box 360 FFXI NEVER lagged. The time the console reached their limit and WOULD start to lag, it simply took out character frames to maintain the FPS, which is not the best solution, but one I prefer over lagging^^

You never know which requirements are needed to play FFXIV lag-free on PC. For example WoW...like 5 years old, but still with 512MB GC and 2GB Ram it still lags far too much...I wouldn't want it to be that way with FFXIV, therefore I would never consider the PC Version :/ Especially since I like playing while sitting on my bed/couch while looking at the TV and not a pc monitor^^ Feels more comfortable.
But in the end its only a matter of personal taste^^

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#6 Aug 18 2009 at 8:18 AM Rating: Excellent
Shezard wrote:
X Box 360 FFXI NEVER lagged


BRWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

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BAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

You funny.
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Well ok, I might have to take that back, I only played FFXI on X-Box 360 for like a few events one time, usually only played on PS2...on PS2 it never lagged, and it didn't during the Events on X-Box, so I simply thought it is always that way on X-Box as it is on PS2 xD

If its not, then forget the X-Box no lag argument, it only applies to the PS2 then :p
#8 Aug 18 2009 at 8:26 AM Rating: Decent
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I think I'm with you Shezard. First release wins! I do realize I'm assuming it will be out for 360 but with xi, xii, and xiii... stands to reason it would get it. Either way I can't wait!
#9 Aug 18 2009 at 8:29 AM Rating: Decent
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You never know which requirements are needed to play FFXIV lag-free on PC.


They have a benchmark that is pretty accurate on how well FFXI will play on your PC. I am sure they will have the same for FFXIV. I played FFXI on both PS2 and PC, I don't remember lagging anymore or any less on either, what I did notice is that FFXI played alot better on the PC and my PC was not High End at the time, but it was built and wasn't ****** either. I say play on whatever is most comfortable for you. You already have a XBOX 360 so if they decide to bring the game to that console then play on the XBOX, why spend the money on a new system? I'm playing on the PS3 because my next computer is going to be a MAC and FFXIV is not MAC compatible(which is STUPID) Now if it comes out for the MAC(which I am secretly praying but know it's not gonna happen)i'll play on the MAC.
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#10 Aug 18 2009 at 8:36 AM Rating: Good
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If you're planning on getting a PS3, now is really the best time. Price cuts are going to be occuring in the extremely near future, and some retailers have already been seen posting ads for them. After today (actually probably in the next hour or so, as Sony holds their press conference @ GamesCon), we'll know for sure.
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PS3 because it looks nicer.
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#12 Aug 18 2009 at 9:30 AM Rating: Decent
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The game is being designed for ps3, with ports to PC and possibly xbox 360.

For that reason, plus the imminent 100$ price drop, I'd go with the ps3 version.

Plus, let's say you get it on ps3, there's no extra internet fee (live gold), and from my experience, the ps3 is more universal when it comes to accessories, so bluetooth headsets, wireless mice and keyboards will absolutely work on ps3, whereas some models don't work with xbox 360.


Ideally, i'd like to upgrade my pc for this game, but i will probably just buy a new HDD for my ps3 and play it on there.
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#13 Aug 18 2009 at 9:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, if I had both systems, I would go PS3. Not just cause I prefer sony's online service in general (knowing MS, they'll probably want gold service to play online), but also cause it is using the same engine as 13, and I have my concerns on the size....the demo for 13 is already bigger then 5gb...in fact, it wouldn't surprise me if the PC version of 14, assuming a large part of that demo is just the engine, is offered on blu-ray as well as dvd.

A link to reference what I'm referring to (it's in japanese, but has several images of what the demo size might mean for the final version of FFIII on 360). http://hatimaki.blog110.fc2.com/blog-entry-993.html In short, it's much less of a problem since blu-ray holds over 5 times the amount.
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#14 Aug 18 2009 at 9:37 AM Rating: Good
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Well, well, well. You'll also have the choice to get the PS3 Slim, available Sept. 1, and just announced literally a minute ago. 120g HD, 33% smaller, 36% lighter, and $299. $299 will also be the price for the current 80g model starting TOMORROW.

Edited, Aug 18th 2009 11:37am by Serielley
#15 Aug 18 2009 at 10:23 AM Rating: Default
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Maybe no one else wants to say it, but I only care about the PC version. Not only can it run faster on a PC, but there WILL be third party tools to help with stuff (Windower FTW).
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Maybe no one else wants to say it, but I only care about the PC version. Not only can it run faster on a PC, but there WILL be third party tools to help with stuff (Windower FTW).


Noone knows yet what the specs are, so saying it'll run faster on a PC is jumping the gun a bit. Plus, if the game is well-designed, as I am hoping, 3rd party tools will be meaningless. You just won't need them, making it easy to play on both platforms with no benefit to playing one platform over another.
#17 Aug 18 2009 at 10:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Slim PS3 for me lol
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Well, considering there is almost certainly not going to be a 360 version for -at least- 6 months after launch, you'd be hard pressed to find a reason to wait.

Sony stated themselves, at their conference, that PS3 would be the only -CONSOLE- it'd release on, at launch.

So yes, if you're waiting around for a 360 release, be prepared to wait for at least 6 months.
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#19 Aug 18 2009 at 11:17 AM Rating: Good
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Noone knows yet what the specs are, so saying it'll run faster on a PC is jumping the gun a bit.


Not really. PC's will always scale better than consoles. Consoles have technology that isn't upgradable. PC's are upgradable there are PC's out there now that surpass Xbox360 and PS3 already. Now I think FFXIV is going to be beautiful on the PS3 as well as the PC and the differences are not going to be a major difference. But in five years when we are in our second or third expansion PS3 and XBOX360 graphics are going to be a bit outdated and the ********* comps will play FFXIV better if not the same as PS3/360, while decent comps and high end PC's will have the game feeling and looking better.
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#20 Aug 18 2009 at 11:20 AM Rating: Decent
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well for starters ffxivonline is not coming out for the 360 it's ps3/pc exclusive. i would probably get it for the pc as i got ffxi for the pc and it plays well on it but i would like to try it on the ps3, maybe they'll release an open beta for it on ps network
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#21 Aug 18 2009 at 11:23 AM Rating: Good
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I don't own a PS3 yet, but I know that I will eventually be buying one so I can play FFXIII when it comes out.

I might just end up buying a PS3 early (I don't plan on buying one as soon as FFXIII comes out...just eventually) anyway for FFXIV.

However, I really feel a lot more comfortable at my PC...for whatever reason.
My PC chair is extremely comfortable, but difficult to move to my television. My TV is also smaller than my PC monitor and it isn't LCD or HD.

I could hook up a PS3 to my PC monitor...

Actually, I can think of one reason why I should play on a PS3: I can read or type information about FFXIV on my PC while actually playing the game...something I was unable to do in FFXI because it lacked an Alt+Tab function.

Now that I've come to that realization I almost want to buy a PS3 and play on that instead...
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#22 Aug 18 2009 at 7:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for the heads up Serielley. I think at this point I'm leaning towards PS3. With all of the info I'm seeing it seems like the right choice.
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Honestly, no offense to 360 users, but I hope the game stays on the PS3.

Reason being that, FFXI was largely processor dependent. There is a good chance FFXIV will be based on what we've seen so far but hopefully I'm wrong. PS3 has an awesome, truly awesome, processor being the Cell. The XBox360 has a good processor but it doesn't compare to the Cell very well. So with that being given, there may come a time of "XBox 360 limitations" if it is indeed ported to the XBox 360 in the near future.

Correct me if I'm wrong, anyone.
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#24 Aug 18 2009 at 7:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Honestly, no offense to 360 users, but I hope the game stays on the PS3.

Reason being that, FFXI was largely processor dependent. There is a good chance FFXIV will be based on what we've seen so far but hopefully I'm wrong. PS3 has an awesome, truly awesome, processor being the Cell. The XBox360 has a good processor but it doesn't compare to the Cell very well. So with that being given, there may come a time of "XBox 360 limitations" if it is indeed ported to the XBox 360 in the near future.

Correct me if I'm wrong, anyone.


I'm not here to correct you or anything.
As we all know FFXIII is both coming to PS3 and XBOX 360 correct? yes, now a lot of people know this if not it's easily found but FFXIII and FFXIV are both made using the Crystal Tools that SE created so that there would not be a reason to use ports for consoles and PC's. so if XIV and XIII are on the same game engine and XIII is going to 360 there is a very good chance that XIV will be on XBOX 360. mind you I'm not saying it will be but it could be a possibility with what little we know.

Crystal Tools link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Tools

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I'm not here to correct you or anything. But as we all know FFXIII is both coming to PS3 and XBOX 360 correct? yes, now a lot of people know this if not it's easily found but FFXIII and FFXIV are both made using the Crystal Tools that SE created so that there would not be a reason to use ports for consoles and PC's. so if XIV and XIII are on the same game engine and XIII is going to 360 there is a very good chance that XIV will be on XBOX 360. mind you I'm not saying it will be but it could be a possibility with what little we know.

Crystal Tools link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Tools

Edited, Aug 18th 2009 10:32pm by Averrinicus


That's a good point. Well, I was thinking more in terms of the overall life cycle of the mmo. When FFXI was released on the PS2, there weren't any limitations on it until the more advanced expansion packs became available and player requested features were knocked down due to "PS2 limitations". So yeah, FFXIII is also coming to the 360 but until it's released, we won't know exactly how it plays out on both systems. ;)

Hopefully XIV lasts long enough to not be outdated by any limitations on any consoles it is released on.
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That's a good point. Well, I was thinking more in terms of the overall life cycle of the mmo. When FFXI was released on the PS2, there weren't any limitations on it until the more advanced expansion packs became available and player requested features were knocked down due to "PS2 limitations". So yeah, FFXIII is also coming to the 360 but until it's released, we won't know exactly how it plays out on both systems. ;)

Hopefully XIV lasts long enough to not be outdated by any limitations on any consoles it is released on.


you have a very valid point as well! and now that I think about it yeah thats kind of a bummer to think that it might be a little outdated later down the road for expansion, especially considering the PS3 is supposed to have a ten year life cycle lol. I hope there are some fixes for this later on down the road if it comes down to it.
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#27 Aug 18 2009 at 7:53 PM Rating: Default
I'm planning to get a new PC around November, but considering the price drop I'm thinking I'll just play FFXIV on PS3.

I don't know how good my PC will need to be to run FFXIV after all.

I'm going to drop about $1K for it. (plus the new monitor)

Either way, I already own an Xbox 360 and I don't think I would ever play another MMORPG on it.

I just don't think Square Enix has done well with the console so far, after playing The Last Remnant and Infinite Undiscovery, Star Ocean 4, and of course, FFXI.

All of them were riddled with FPS lag and I can't deal with much of that in an MMORPG.

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It depends. I'm planning to get a new PC around November, but considering the price drop I sort of want a PS3 now, too.

I don't know how good my PC will need to be to run FFXIV after all.

I'm going to drop about $1K for it. (plus the new monitor)

Edited, Aug 18th 2009 11:53pm by Poubelle


I was going to do the same, but then the price drop of the PS3 + Slim Model and I thought I'll just get a PS3 and a small monitor because I hate sitting far from the screen on mmo's lol I still make it feel like a computer experience, but I already have a PC and all I use it for internet.
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XIV and XIII are very different though.

XIII doesn't have to balance a constant internet connection with a server balancing thousands of users. XIII won't have to be looking at 200+ players in a central hub. XIII won't be seeing a huge shell take on a boss.
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Maybe they'll release a xbox 360 version.. but with the recent price drop of the ps3, to $299, more people would have ps3s. Also, the limitations of 360... might hold back things, sooo not sure...
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If there were any indications that the 360 would definitely receive a port of XIV, and getting online at launch wasn't a priority for you I would say it's fine to wait. If and when the 360 does receive the game, I wouldn't assume that the 360 version would be notably inferior to the PS3 version.

This isn't a problem with getting the game to work or system specs. As was noted earlier in the thread, SE already has the Crystal Tools engine running on both platforms, and with comparable results. There is an unspecified snag in negotiations according to SE that has prevented them from agreeing to port the game over. Popular internet rumors have guessed that the "difficulty" involved is that MS is demanding either a Live Gold Subscription to play XIV (as opposed to the free access allowed for XI), or a portion of the subscription fees that SE collects. Neither of these has been confirmed, but we do know that negotiations haven't died just yet, and that nothing yet has been solved that would confirm a 360 version.
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Spec-wise, as noted above, the PS3 would be a better choice. Pretty powerful processor and card.

I hadn't really given much thought about the lifeline of the 360 until now, and it occurs to me that as expansions come out for XIV and graphics improve and requirements become harsher, the PS3 will be able to reach further than the 360 and '360 limitations' would be the result.

Crystal Tools working on both systems at the moment isn't a very good indicator of how FFXIV will play 5 years down the road and what kind of roadblocks the team might face in cross-development.

But who knows, they can make it work. I don't care as long as doesn't mess with my PC version.

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I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the drawbacks from ffxi and 360. Besieged, anyone? Zoning lag? SE doesn't seem to give a crap about fixing the minor nuisances in their current 360 MMO, I'd hate to see them do another one on it. If it does get ported to 360, I'm fearing the ps2 limitations becoming 360 limitations in the future, too.

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I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the drawbacks from ffxi and 360. Besieged, anyone? Zoning lag? SE doesn't seem to give a crap about fixing the minor nuisances in their current 360 MMO, I'd hate to see them do another one on it. If it does get ported to 360, I'm fearing the ps2 limitations becoming 360 limitations in the future, too.

Edited, Aug 20th 2009 9:23am by DsComputer


It's not so much limitations, it's how the 360 was made. It's basically a computer, so it wants to shut **** down if it can't optimize the game. It's not something SE can fix alone, it's the 360 at fault also which means M$ has some fixing to do.

SE said they WANT to put FFXIV on the 360, but at the same time they're iffy on it mainly because of the Xbox Live situation.

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Agreed it is a 360 limitation.

I know for a fact that Valve has issues with TF2 because they have to find ingenious ways to apply the patches so they don't cause issues on the xbox

They even specifically said that, the pc patch was done, working on xbox still... sorry.

Hopefully they don't even bother with the xbox unless it is in no way going to affect anyone else.
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