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Slim PS3 = $299 launches Sep 1Follow

#1 Aug 18 2009 at 10:39 AM Rating: Good
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Confirmed @ GamesCom.

Same specs as current models.

Additionally all current models have $100 off.

Slim:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2432/3833594013_06f3ccc5b0.jpg

Additional Info + Pics:
http://www.destructoid.com/here-you-go-your-ps3-slim-images-and-details-144786.phtml



Edited, Aug 18th 2009 3:15pm by mpmaley
#2 Aug 18 2009 at 10:50 AM Rating: Good
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I'll be getting it in hopes that it's not as loud as my old one, and maybe I can leave it on more lol
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#3 Aug 18 2009 at 11:27 AM Rating: Good
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It looks beautiful!

I always prefer my slim PS2 over the original PS2 (that my brother broke when I lent it him).

I'm glad that I'll be able to buy a thinner version of the PS3 since I don't own a PS3 yet. I'm glad I waited.
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#4 Aug 18 2009 at 11:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Wow, thats prety cool.

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Nice to see a price cut and a redesign but ****, it's a little ugly for my tastes.
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#6 Aug 18 2009 at 11:52 AM Rating: Good
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Nice to see a price cut and a redesign but ****, it's a little ugly for my tastes

It did seem a little ugly to me at first but maybe that will mean I will look at the games and movies more than the console it self.
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#7 Aug 18 2009 at 12:24 PM Rating: Decent
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backwards compatible or not?
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#9 Aug 18 2009 at 12:43 PM Rating: Good
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The source article says it WILL NOT be backward compatible with PS2. That isn't to say that emulation software isn't soon in coming.
#10 Aug 18 2009 at 12:49 PM Rating: Good
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If it is indeed compatible with both ps2 and ps2 games i will be rushing out to buy one.
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The only reason I want Backwards Compatibility is for FFXII and Battlefront lol
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The current rumor is that sony plans on updating ps3's with "emotion emulation" technology. They recently filed a patent under this name. Seeing as the ps2 chip was called the emotion engine, we can assume that a downloadable backwards compatibility update is in the near future.

Also, knowing sony, they probably planned on having this patch out once the non-backwards compatible systems were the only option on the market, but took their sweet time to get it out (my sources say that their IT dept. doesn't have a lot of resources, so projects take a long time).

Edited, Aug 18th 2009 5:08pm by MerylStryfe
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#13 Aug 18 2009 at 2:12 PM Rating: Good
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So now the ebay prices will be affordable, oh how fun.
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HAY THAT'S JUST IN TIME FOR THE BETA!!!11ONE
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#15 Aug 18 2009 at 3:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Sorry if I missed this or can't read properly, but is the hard drive upgradable for the slim?
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Sorry if I missed this or can't read properly, but is the hard drive upgradable for the slim?


Yes it is, the bay is in front where the logo's are placed. all you have to do is unscrew one ***** and swap them out.

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HAY THAT'S JUST IN TIME FOR THE BETA!!!11ONE
Coincidence? I think so!


oh let it be so, I'm buying a slim PS3 on day one lol

Edited, Aug 18th 2009 6:41pm by Averrinicus
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#17 Aug 18 2009 at 4:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Nice to see some design progress and drop in price, but I'll wait until closer to game release.
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#18 Aug 18 2009 at 7:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Read about this earlier today...

Such wonderful timing on my part. I was planning to get a PS3 in October anyways. This just sweetens the pot.

PS2 BC would be nice, but I've been playing mostly PS1 games lately anyways. My PS2 still runs... I'll just have to rethink the inputs on my receiver and TV.

The Bravia sync thing sounds pretty interesting... I was planning on getting a new TV sometime in the next year as well. Their marketing department folks are using their noggins...
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Glad I told my brother to wait before he dropped 400 bucks on a PS3 last weekend. More money towards a better HDTV in December/January is always a sweet deal, and BC's nice too, I guess. I get another go at Ozma!
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Such wonderful timing on my part. I was planning to get a PS3 in October anyways. This just sweetens the pot.


I would be willing to bet money that the price will again drop at the kickoff on Black Friday.
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#21 Aug 19 2009 at 2:19 PM Rating: Decent
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That may be enough to tip my scale in favor of purchasing a PS3 to play FFXIV instead of playing it on the PC.
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I would be willing to bet money that the price will again drop at the kickoff on Black Friday.


If it does it will be purely at the expense of retailers. I highly doubt Sony will take any more losses.
#23 Aug 19 2009 at 2:27 PM Rating: Good
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And suddenly my PS3 looks like an out-of-date bloated piece of crap.

Wish I had waited now since Fallout 3 is pretty much the only game I own for it.
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#24 Aug 19 2009 at 3:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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Wish I had waited now since Fallout 3 is pretty much the only game I own for it.


And that's why I never picked one up. I really didn't see any games that I wanted for it.That's the same story I hear from the employees at the game store. They all seem to have the PSP, own 1-2 games and never play it.

But that sounds like the history with me and my PS2. Pretty much picked it up to play FFs.
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The PS2 is regarded as having the best lineup of games ever. If you can't find games on it that you like that aren't FF games, you're simply not a gamer but a FF player.

The no games thing for the PS3 died a long time ago as well.
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MerylStryfe wrote:
The current rumor is that sony plans on updating ps3's with "emotion emulation" technology. They recently filed a patent under this name. Seeing as the ps2 chip was called the emotion engine, we can assume that a downloadable backwards compatibility update is in the near future.

Also, knowing sony, they probably planned on having this patch out once the non-backwards compatible systems were the only option on the market, but took their sweet time to get it out (my sources say that their IT dept. doesn't have a lot of resources, so projects take a long time).

Edited, Aug 18th 2009 5:08pm by MerylStryfe


This is a common misconception.

The original NA and JP launch systems launched with full hardware compatibility. That is to say, they featured both the PS2's CPU and GPU physically within the system.

By the time of the PAL regions' launch and the introduction of the first 80GB SKU in NA, the PS2's CPU, dubbed the "Emotion Engine" had been eliminated from the system by way of emulation on the PS3's Cell processor. The GPU processor of the PS2, named the "Graphics Synthesizer" still was physically present within the systems to provide BC for the GPU portion of PS2 games. All subsequent versions of the PS3 (including the new Slim model) have shipped without either the CPU or GPU from the PS2, and have been thus far incapable of PS2 BC.

Earlier this year, Sony patented a new form of Emotion Engine (the PS2's cpu) emulation, and caused quite a stir online with hopes of a new patch to make the current models BC with the PS2 by way of a simple FW update. The obvious problem with the theory is that the PS2's CPU has been successfully emulated on the PS3 for years now already. The required emulation advance necessary is for the GPU, or Graphics Synthesizer, and no source has ever even intimated (let alone shown any evidence) that the GS has been successfully emulated on the PS3 hardware. In fact Sony not only denies that they are any longer researching fully software driven BC, but also has claimed repeatedly that it is not a feature requested often enough for them to consider.

Now I've seen Sony lie enough over the years to agree that not admitting research on BC doesn't necessarily mean they couldn't in fact be doing so. But I also have never seen any major company try to downplay the importance of a product they are spending money and resources on.

There might very well be a fully software driven version of PS2 BC one day on the PS3. I'm simply telling those thinking of making a purchase to not assume it's coming because of easily debunked internet hype.
#27 Aug 21 2009 at 5:03 PM Rating: Decent
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FYI:

The new slim PS3 has a 45nm cell processor. No word on what the GPU is but Nvidia are behind it.
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Hulan wrote:
The source article says it WILL NOT be backward compatible with PS2. That isn't to say that emulation software isn't soon in coming.


Do you have any source or information to back this statement up?

I am holding out on buying a PS3 solely because I have over 40 PS2 games and 20 PS1 games which I still play to this day.

The day the release backward compatible PS3s I will buy one.
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Although I need a PS3, I'm reticent to buy this particular model. I'm tempted to see if it doesn't end up having more production problems than its predecessor. Particularly because it is a smaller model and seems like it could have more problems with cooling, but maybe that's a baseless concern.

*And if nothing else, I'm less likely to accidentally jerk a weightier model onto the floor.



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Do you have any source or information to back this statement up?

I am holding out on buying a PS3 solely because I have over 40 PS2 games and 20 PS1 games which I still play to this day.


Truthfully? Not really, and I apologize if that statement was misleading. It is fact that the source article says that there will not be backwards compatibility built in.

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It is conjecture on my part that Sony will be working hard on emulation software, since a large part of their consumer base is much like yourself, owners of PS2 games they wish to play on their PS3. There have been some rumors floating about that the PS3 has some emulation software in the works, but they are only rumors as far as I've been able to track down, possibly true, possibly false. I really am sorry if my statement was misleading, and well attempt to constrain myself before feeding the rumormill in the future.

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First off, the PS3 Slim looks gorgeous... I have 60GB that still runs perfectly well, but I WILL buy this one as well. Why? All of a sudden, I have a hunch that Square Enix will likely release a FFXIV bundle with the new Slim in 2010...(perhaps with the FFXIV game pre-installed, keyboard and bluetooth headset included?)... it's marketing genius and I'll be surprised if they didn't do this.

Yep, I'm definitely waiting a little longer to see if this happens... I was just about to upgrade my harddisk anyway, and if the pricetag on this new baby is $299, it's a warp.
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It would be so much more appealing to me if it had the PS2 compatibility.
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I've got an original 80 GB PS3 with PS2 backwards compatibility, but may be picking up a slim as well so the gf and I can both play FFXIV, assuming her PC can't handle it, as soon as we get information on the requirements to run it.
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#34 Aug 24 2009 at 7:29 AM Rating: Decent
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I have the 1st gen PS3 too, and PS2 compatibility is the reason I'm not getting a slim. That, and it's not really much smaller than the PS3. PS2 and PS2 Slim was a huge difference but this one is actually longer than the PS3 from the back to the front.
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PS3 for $199? at sonystyle.com
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tempting, but I think I'd rather just spend 400$ and update my computer
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#37 Aug 24 2009 at 6:48 PM Rating: Good
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gumpman wrote:

I am holding out on buying a PS3 solely because I have over 40 PS2 games and 20 PS1 games which I still play to this day.

The day the release backward compatible PS3s I will buy one.


This probably won't really be that useful of information to you, as you're probably more concerned with the PS2 games, but many people don't know that EVERY PS3 plays PS1 games, so just letting you know.
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but many people don't know that EVERY PS3 plays PS1 games, so just letting you know.


I didn't know! #looks at his remaining PS games#

Resident evil hmmm.... "Blood? I...ho..pe...this......is..not...ch..r..is's..blood" Think I'll pass

ooo the holy grail FFVII, you've just given me something to do for the next few weeks! :D

One thing tho do PS1 games recognize the HD as a memory card?
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I didn't know! #looks at his remaining PS games#

Resident evil hmmm.... "Blood? I...ho..pe...this......is..not...ch..r..is's..blood" Think I'll pass

ooo the holy grail FFVII, you've just given me something to do for the next few weeks! :D

One thing tho do PS1 games recognize the HD as a memory card?


That is true, my friend, you can save on your HD ^.^

Ahh.. Resident Evil... That has GOT to be the worst voice acted game ever. >.<

The PS3 uses emulation software for PS1 games though, so you might come in contact of a few minor glitches, Nothing huge though. I havent ran into any personally, but I've heard some people having problems.

Edit: I forgot to add that you have to create a virtual memory card, I'm not sure if the ps3 updated this through updates or not yet, but better safe than sorry.

Go to the Cross Media Bar then "Game" > "Memory Card Utility (PS/PS2)" > "Create New Internal Memory Card" > "Internal Memory Card (PS)"

Save the memory card and you should be gravy after that.

Enjoy ^.^

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To continue off the previous poster, if you have a PS1 memory card (or PS2 memory card for B/C PS3's) and want to use the saves from those on the PS3 instead of starting new games, you need to buy a Memory Card Adapter to be able to transfer the saves from the PS1/PS2 memory cards to the PS3 virtual memory card. It's only $14.99 though.
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You clearly haven't tried summoning Knights of the Round in FFVII. I've never seen an animation for a PS1 game move that slowly. Hopefully they worked that out before releasing the game on PSN.
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#42 Aug 25 2009 at 6:53 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm always skeptical about making things smaller. My slim ps2 never ran the same as my original. Both of them saw a lot of play cause of the roommates, they both were on **** near 24 hours a day. My slim ps2 also burned out a lot quicker.
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PS3 slim step by step disassembled, just in case you're interested in seeing the inside of the thing:

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/PlayStation-3-Slim/1121/1

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Got my PS3 slim last night, upgraded to 500GB. Looks gorgeous, much quieter than my old 80GB model.

All right. I'm ready for XIV. :)
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