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#1 Aug 21 2009 at 11:00 PM Rating: Decent
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I know there is no exact information out but i was just wondering what the expectations should be on how much one would have to spend to upgrade their computers to experience FFXIV at its best.


for me i have a HP Desktop with an Nvidia Geforce 6400. bought it a while ago i dont even know if its good anymore lol.

what Ram CPU anything nd everything you would think would be necessary to know about your own computer to know how to upgrade to the next level acceptable for the new FF coming out.


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#2 Aug 21 2009 at 11:18 PM Rating: Good
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We don't know.


My guess for minimum specs would probably be:


DualCore 2.5Ghz+
Radeon 4850 or the Nvidia Equivalent.
2 Gigs of ram.


None of these are very expensive or hard to get, and should probably be able to run the game on low-medium.


For recommended specs, I'd aim more towards a quadcore/i7
Radeon 4850x2 or 4870
and 2 gigs of ram for XP, 4-8 if you are using Windows 7.


These are just some estimates gauging by the fact they they said there would be high requirements and also the reqs required by recent games.


edit: Why am I defaulted for having suggesting the exact same specs that another guy did, and he has an excellent rating? Oh Alla, you silly goose.


Edited, Aug 22nd 2009 4:48pm by Kirbster
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#3 Aug 21 2009 at 11:58 PM Rating: Decent
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A Nvidia Geforce 6400 is almost 5 years old now. They still used AGP back then and now they use PCIe so you probably wouldn't be able to upgrade easy. Basically you would need a new motherboard, new, cpu, new ram, new video card, which is almost like building a new computer. I wouldn't count on a Geforce 6400 being able to play FFXIV to well.
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#4 Aug 22 2009 at 12:12 AM Rating: Good
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Kirbster wrote:



and 2 gigs of ram for XP, 4-8 if you are using Windows 7.




Probably won't be able to run it on XP, I'd think.


My advice is just to wait for your upgrades for like another year. The game won't be out for a long time still, and any components you'd be buying now, will drop WAY down in price in a year's time. At least this is what I'm going to do.
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#5 Aug 22 2009 at 12:21 AM Rating: Decent
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Haha, there is not a chance in **** it won't run in XP.


Having high requirements is one thing, not supporting XP is just asking for trouble. I could see that happening only if XIV for some reason was completely reliant on DX10.

Only once a very solid Windows 7 base has been established will developers begin to break off support for XP, as most people are wisely skipping Vista entirely.

But you are correct in saying to wait for upgrades.

We won't know the requirement specs for sure until beta, and by the time the game comes out, everything will have lowered in price and become a lot more reasonable to the average consumer.

Edited, Aug 22nd 2009 1:24am by Kirbster
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#6 Aug 22 2009 at 5:55 AM Rating: Good
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I'm thinking:

Minimum
OS: Windows XP/Vista
Processor: Intel Pentium 4 3.0GHz
RAM: 1GB
Video card:

Recommended
OS: Windows XP/Vista/7
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz or AMD Athlon 64X2 4400+
RAM: 2GB
Video card: NVIDIA 8800 GTS or ATI Radeon HD 3800 series

Although for actual smooth gameplay (read consistent FPS, most effects turned on and decent draw distance) I'd have to say you'd want to be looking at a ATI Radeon HD 4800 series card or GTS/GTX 200 series and 4GB of RAM depending on your OS. No way in **** an i7 processor will be on the recommended specs and neither will quad core.
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#7 Aug 22 2009 at 7:57 AM Rating: Default
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From a pricepoint, core I7 is not that expensive. You can get one for about 150, just not the top of the line lol. Of course, this only counts if you are building it. Buying a prebuilt is a great way to get screwed on the price.
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#8 Aug 22 2009 at 9:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Well the good thing is we know it is being built for multicore cpu's.

I think if your running a CPU socket from 2006 CPU Sockets or below it's a good time to spend the money and get with the current standards that allow for flexability/upgrading in the future. 6 years is ancient in PC technology. Even 4 years is getting iffy. Upgrading an old machine that is at it's end of it's life is throwing money away. It's denying the inevitable. This game does have to last. Starting off the requirements or going to be heavier then most think. Save those pennies and start planning a build. Building a PC is easy and it saves so much money. There are tons of resources and help out there for first time builders. Do research and pricing. And wait till 2010/open beta. If your current PC runs beta not to your standards then that research and penny saving will come into play. Save $100/month into a future PC fund. By the time release comes you'll be a happy camper. Any money left over is a bonus.
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In one of the first interviews after FFXIV was announced, the developers said that they built the game to run on a top of the line PC at that time (two years ago) so that when the game comes out the system requirements will fall to a mid to high range level PC. What that means to me is that if you didn't get you graphics card from the locked cage in the back within the last year you probably should get another one. If you pc cost less than $1,500 and you bought it more than 6 months ago, you will probably wanna get another. If you can't watch a 3-D movie you know you need another one.

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#10 Aug 22 2009 at 1:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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Min Spec:

OS: Windows XP
CPU: Dual Core 2.6 Ghz+
RAM: 1 Gb
GPU: 8800 GT/equivalent ATI brand

Recommended Spec:

OS: Windows 7
CPU: Quad Core 2.6 Ghz+
RAM: 2 Gb
GPU: ATI 4870/NVIDIA GTX 260 (maybe slightly less than these GPUs? ATI 4850/9800 GTX perhaps)

Pretty much what I'm expecting. They seem to have had the game running pretty well at GamesCon on modern day hardware so the game should run on maximum settings on current hardware. Unreleased hardware will probably be unnecessary for maximum.


Edited, Aug 22nd 2009 5:42pm by EpedemicOptikz
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#11 Aug 22 2009 at 2:03 PM Rating: Good
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All I know is that whatever it is, my computer won't be able to handle it.
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#12 Aug 22 2009 at 2:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Have GTX-295, I can't wait to test the system with the game.
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#13 Aug 22 2009 at 3:56 PM Rating: Good
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If you follow my advice don't buy any hardware until 1 month before the game goes live. Even if you have the money ready now, you get 2x more powerful hardware for the same amount of money if you wait for a year when the game is released.
#14 Aug 22 2009 at 9:25 PM Rating: Good
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Graphics cards get new edtions every few months. I would just wait until the system specs for the game is announced to get a GPU then so you won't have to worry about anything. I am thinking of upgrading my rig next year to one of the new larrabee cpus and a direct x 11 gpu.
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#15 Aug 23 2009 at 6:18 AM Rating: Good
in another thread, I wrote:
I do a little computer work on the side of my 40 hour a week job, and I recently picked up the September issue of MaximumPC because I wanted to see what their Dream Machine '09 looked like. They had three of them this year, and their low-end model was a $690 unit designed for gaming. Specs:

CPU: AMD Phenom II X3 720 - $139
Mobo: MSI DKA790GX - $122
RAM: Kingston HyperX 4GB -$55
Video: HIS Radeon 4870 512MB - $153
HDD: Western Digital Caviar 500 Black - $69
Optical: Samsung SH-S223F - $25 (CD-RW?)
PSU: Rosewill RP550V2-S-SL - $52
Case: Antec 900 - $77
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate RC1 - $0
Total: $692 (not counting shipping & tax)

I'd have a hard time imagining that would be incapable of running FFXIV. Still, I haven't tried the RC of Windows 7, simply because I'm not sure if it's compatible with FFXI yet, and I don't want to mess around with having to uninstall it if it doesn't work.


Please note that someone in that same thread confirmed that FFXI does work in Windows 7.
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#16 Aug 23 2009 at 6:33 AM Rating: Good
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Once again I'm sticking with my Crysis theory

Quote:
Recommended System Requirements
OS - Windows XP / Vista
Processor - Intel Core 2 DUO @ 2.2GHz or AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+
Memory - 2.0 GB RAM
GPU - NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS/640 or similar

Minimum System Requirements
OS - Windows XP or Windows Vista
Processor - 2.8 GHz or faster (XP) or 3.2 GHz or faster* (Vista)
Memory - 1.0 GB RAM (XP) or 1.5 GB RAM (Vista)
Video Card -256 MB**
Hard Drive - 12GB
Sound Card - DirectX 9.0c compatible


Especially now the Cryengine is on consoles and still looks better then anything I've seen. Although, yes, FFXIV looks incredible, it's no more incredible then your average PC game, why should the specs be ridiulously high? Numerous models causing lag was a problem of the past, if the unreal engine managed to render 200 models at once lag-free on an Xbox 360 then I think SE will be able to as well.
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#17 Aug 23 2009 at 3:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Having high requirements is one thing, not supporting XP is just asking for trouble. I could see that happening only if XIV for some reason was completely reliant on DX10.

Only once a very solid Windows 7 base has been established will developers begin to break off support for XP, as most people are wisely skipping Vista entirely.


Actually in point of fact, Microsoft will be halting support for XP sometime close to the release of FFXIV (this is assuming we're looking at a Q3 or Q4 release of FFXIV). Windows 7 will be officially available on shelves October 22.

Admittedly, we'll probably see games released on Windows XP for a good bit after that, but it's not totally out of the question for FFXIV to not run on Windows XP. From personally experience, Windows 7 has a tremendous amount of potential; in all likelihood, we will see it overtake Vista in installation base within months, possibly overtaking XP by the end of the year.

SE has said that they would like to take advantage of the most advanced technology available at the time of development. I see no reason why they wouldn't make extensive use of DX10.1 and better functions.

I'm not really saying that FFXIV will not support Windows XP, just that it's too early to discount the possibility of it being built for Windows 7 instead.
#18 Aug 23 2009 at 4:21 PM Rating: Good
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Hulan wrote:
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Having high requirements is one thing, not supporting XP is just asking for trouble. I could see that happening only if XIV for some reason was completely reliant on DX10.

Only once a very solid Windows 7 base has been established will developers begin to break off support for XP, as most people are wisely skipping Vista entirely.


Actually in point of fact, Microsoft will be halting support for XP sometime close to the release of FFXIV (this is assuming we're looking at a Q3 or Q4 release of FFXIV). Windows 7 will be officially available on shelves October 22.

Admittedly, we'll probably see games released on Windows XP for a good bit after that, but it's not totally out of the question for FFXIV to not run on Windows XP. From personally experience, Windows 7 has a tremendous amount of potential; in all likelihood, we will see it overtake Vista in installation base within months, possibly overtaking XP by the end of the year.

SE has said that they would like to take advantage of the most advanced technology available at the time of development. I see no reason why they wouldn't make extensive use of DX10.1 and better functions.

I'm not really saying that FFXIV will not support Windows XP, just that it's too early to discount the possibility of it being built for Windows 7 instead.


I never said anything about Microsoft halting support for XP, or FFXIV not taking advantage of DX10. Just that game developers would be foolish to not support XP for a good extra year after the release of W7.

Don't be puttin' words in my mouth, man. :V
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#19 Aug 23 2009 at 8:13 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't understand why people think the minimum requirements will be the top of the line today.

The minimum requirements will be similar to console games today. Why? Because many of the games out now are all graphically amazing and intense.

Because FFXIV is going to be an MMO the main goal of SE will be to include as many people as possible. Only allowing PS3 owners and people who own $1000 computers is a very small market base.

The PS3 has been out for almost 4 years. If you have bought a computer within the past 4 years you will most likely be able to run FFXIV with recommended or possibly high settings.
#20 Aug 23 2009 at 9:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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I never said anything about Microsoft halting support for XP, or FFXIV not taking advantage of DX10. Just that game developers would be foolish to not support XP for a good extra year after the release of W7.

Don't be puttin' words in my mouth, man. :V


I'm sorry, I was not meaning to imply that you said any of those things. Rather, I was trying to make a counter-point that while you did say:

Quote:
Haha, there is not a chance in **** it won't run in XP.


I believe that there actually is an outside chance that XP will not be supported, and I was giving my evidence to that effect. No matter how slim the chance is, it shouldn't be discounted outright.

And while people shouldn't go out and stock up on Windows 7 just because the chance exists that XP won't be supported. They should think about it and be prepared for the possibility.

Edited, Aug 24th 2009 1:47am by Hulan
#21 Aug 24 2009 at 3:24 AM Rating: Good
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I'm sure it'll run on XP, but I doubt they'll actually support XP.
In a couple of months, not even Microsoft will be backing xp anymore, why should Square Enix?
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