I'm hardly a zealot, I'm playing WoW as we speak.
It's actually your undeserved pompous nature that annoys me.
Excuse me for not being nice to a person who called me an idiot. My bad i guess. If i call you a douche bag, will you be nice to me too?
What difference is classes > Weapons than any other mechanic used in the final fantasy series?
My inference was that since the races are the same, the ws animations from teh demo were the same (what was that, burning blade?) that the correlation that the classes were to be essentially the same is not far off. I mean, new name does not make it new. Having to enter in your attacks does not negate the fact that it is the same attacks.
Seriously, how can you not see the similarities? Just because i feel that is a disapointment and you do not does not mean that my OPINION is wrong.
By that logic, Espers = Materia = GFs= Weapons = Sphere. They all work to do the same thing, give the characters abilities. Are they all repackaged games with a different cover? All of your concerns seem largely superficial with the amount of actual info we have on the game.
Well, now you are generalizing alot. I would say espers = gf definitly (as any summon in ff is essentially the same as the previous). But the materia is different than spheres as they are different mechanics for the same goal (progression). Liscenses might be close to spheres, but the scope of liscenese is braoder.
All of my concerns are superficial - that is why i am disapointed. This is not some nerd going "omg if this is in the game i will not play" this is just some guy going, yeah, thats kinda a let down".
It's not that you're disappointed, it's that many people don't agree with the reasons why you're disappointed. It's akin to giving a person a chocolate cake and them being disappointed because they don't like chocolate. But hey, lots of other people do.
In the context of this thread:
SE: here is chocolate cake!
Me: Oh, i was kinda hoping for vanilla cake, i don't like chocolate
You guys: OMG WTF is wrong with you, chocolate is the best flavor ever!
Me: But, i don't like it. Its not horrible like mint cake, but its not vanilla cake.
You guys: Kill it with fire!
Seriously, these are opinions. That is why i call you guys zealots. If someone came here and said, WoW sucks. Aion sucks. AoC sucks. PSU sucks. FFXI sucks. or any other mmo that i have played i would really not care - it is their opinion.
If someone says "hey, Aion sucks because you can't fly" I would say "no, you can fly". What i am saying is based entirely on opinion. Likewise, what you are saying is entirely based on opinion as well. Seriously, is there enough information out about this game to conclusively say one thing or another? No - you form opinions about it based on what you have. And really, it is not even in beta yet, these things are subject to change.
That said - your opinion is not better than mine. It is different.
two I'm debating with someone who's obviously never played thief on an elite level...
I cannot compete with your 1337ness. I submit oh great elite thief in a video game.
the point is that all jobs in FFXI involve more interaction than say... AOC's DDR button mashing, and WOWs see a monster, click a monster, watch monster die interaction.
So, you are saying that in AoC where your abilities were tied to directional shielding and attacks had to be adjusted on the fly constantly inorder to perform optimally is less interactive than hitting "lock target > auto run" and being behind the mob every 30 seconds?
I'm sorry, ffxi is a great game, and AoC did fail epicly, but AoC required much more attention than anything ffxi has.
I'm not a zealot, I just have a good sense of quality... you should actually take my lead, that way you wouldn't be flushing money down the drain on sludge like AOC... and no, I'm not mad... in fact I laugh at you and your purchase of such a silly, hack developed title. :D :D :D
How does it feel to be nothing more than a quick cash in on the Conan name franchise?
:D :D :D
How does it feel to know that i am in a position in my life where 50 bucks for a game and 15 dollars a month is pocket change?
The game failed epicly, but you never know if a game is for you until you try it. I trust forums and about as much as i trust some highschool kid to explain what 2nd and 3rd order harmonics persent in an accelerometer on a bearing mean to a customer.
I will try ffxiv, if it is not for me it is not for me. Will i regret buying it? No, its fun to try new games.
This comment says it all... just stick with WoW, because all your little 10 year old friends with miss you if you leave for FFXIV, and then I wont have to pick up the slack for you if you and I ever end up getting placed in a party together.
You know why i like the jump function? It adds immersion. I dislike being stuck on twigs or branches that are knee high.
I also like to fly in aion, because it is just down right fun.
But thanks for resorting to real life insults. It is amusing.
edit: removed personal info - not playing that game. I'm 29 years old tho :P
So, i guess this is where you insult my ***** size or some other such nonsense? Edited, Sep 15th 2009 10:18pm by KacesofCaitsith