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#52 Sep 21 2009 at 2:59 PM Rating: Default
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My impression is that she doesn't intentionally act mannish, but is the kind of thing she's either not good at hiding or is fairly ignorant of.

idk, truthfully I like the idea if for no reason other than the novelty of it.
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It looks great I wanna know about that tim burton character
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Oh yeah! That ****** looks badass!
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Good games are subjective like good food is subjective. You're not going to seriously tell me that there's not a psychological basis for why pizza is great and lutefisk is revolting. The thing about subjectivity is that, as subjects go, humans actually have a great deal in common.
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#56 Sep 22 2009 at 6:46 AM Rating: Default
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It looks like I made some friends with this thread.

To the raters: **** you, and have a nice day. Really, please go find something in life to enjoy, but do **** off. I love you.
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Good games are subjective like good food is subjective. You're not going to seriously tell me that there's not a psychological basis for why pizza is great and lutefisk is revolting. The thing about subjectivity is that, as subjects go, humans actually have a great deal in common.
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Hermaphrodite is used to describe someone containing both genitalia.

Futanari, like kachi said, has a strong connotation of someone with ******* and a *****. While futa can refer to either or, it usually is just the latter, while hermaphrodite is strictly the former.

English doesn't have a proper term for a person with ******* and a *****.

(obviously when I say ******* i mean as a woman's)
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Just FYI...

Square has a big Hentai history back in the 80's...

If you know about that, you wouldn't be that surprised about it...not to mention that Nier Replicant(the game with the futanari main char) is JP exclusive and US/EU will get Nier Gestalt instead with the exact same char, just not as futanari and "localized" to the west, meaning he will be a brutal punisher with muscles and scars/tatoos over his body...just watch the trailers/pictures...its said that it will be practically the same game, just addapted to Western "interests"...whoever needs such BS...

PS: Kachi...you seem to need that kind of "superior" feeling, could that be? There are people out here, that got way more knowledge about RPGs in general, especially J-RPGs...so don't bother showing off...

edit: Forgot to mention that it was said, that the "futanari" thing about the main char in Nier Replicant will not be his actual state, but something with his/her past and he/she won't have both genitals actually.

Edited, Sep 22nd 2009 10:29pm by Shezard
#59 Sep 22 2009 at 2:57 PM Rating: Default
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It looks like I made some friends with this thread.

To the raters: @#%^ you, and have a nice day. Really, please go find something in life to enjoy, but do @#%^ off. I love you.


Tangent: srsly... what's the point of the karma system? Not asking what it does, but rather... who cares? IMO, it's simply a method for someone to force his/her negative opinion without anyone knowing he/she said anything. Hurray for cowardice?
#60 Sep 22 2009 at 2:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Banggugyangu wrote:
Kachi wrote:
It looks like I made some friends with this thread.

To the raters: @#%^ you, and have a nice day. Really, please go find something in life to enjoy, but do @#%^ off. I love you.


Tangent: srsly... what's the point of the karma system? Not asking what it does, but rather... who cares? IMO, it's simply a method for someone to force his/her negative opinion without anyone knowing he/she said anything. Hurray for cowardice?
It's a lazy form of moderation, basically. So that they don't have to scour all of the forums all of the time. The people who abuse the rating system are annoying, yes, but are also usually caught and have their rating privileges removed from their IP address. It just has to be pointed out to an admin.
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#61 Sep 22 2009 at 5:48 PM Rating: Default
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PS: Kachi...you seem to need that kind of "superior" feeling, could that be?


Oh yeah? And what makes you say that, Freud? Is it because you're a quack? Maybe you could spare me the psychoanalysis. I don't need a feeling of superiority to recognize that you're dumber than me. Trust me-- it gives me no pleasure. That aside, wtf are you talking about?

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There are people out here, that got way more knowledge about RPGs in general, especially J-RPGs...so don't bother showing off...


O HAY GUYS LOOK AT WHAT I CAN DO

What warped perception permits you to think that I'm in any way showing off? I'm ******* around on an internet video game forum with twats like you galore. I give two @#%^s what the people here think of me, unless I happen to like them. I still manage to remain generally easy-going and helpful until antagonized by obtuse sh*theads.

Yeah, I've only played a few dozen JRPGs. There are people who have played many more, especially recently. Why do you care?

And what does any of that have to do with chicks with ******

Edit: Oh wait, after rereading your post it's clear that you were actually trying to show off your knowledge of video games. Wow, good job, guy. Give yourself a pat on the back. (b'-')b You da man.

Edited, Sep 22nd 2009 6:51pm by Kachi
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#62 Sep 22 2009 at 9:28 PM Rating: Decent
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PS: Kachi...you seem to need that kind of "superior" feeling, could that be?


Oh yeah? And what makes you say that, Freud? Is it because you're a quack? Maybe you could spare me the psychoanalysis. I don't need a feeling of superiority to recognize that you're dumber than me. Trust me-- it gives me no pleasure. That aside, wtf are you talking about?
Plus, like, welcome to the internet, right?
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#63 Sep 22 2009 at 10:14 PM Rating: Decent
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English doesn't have a proper term for a person with ******* and a *****.


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#64 Sep 22 2009 at 10:15 PM Rating: Decent
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I can't believe this thread is still on the front page.
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#66 Sep 23 2009 at 6:08 AM Rating: Default
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I can't believe this thread is still on the front page.
You realize that this is the internet, where chicks with ***** are not only accepted, but lunged for?





Ahaha, lunged for. God I crack myself up.
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#67 Sep 23 2009 at 9:32 AM Rating: Good
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What makes me say that Kachi is the simple fact, that there is like a hand full of threads, where you don't tell people how dumb they are and how much cooler and better you are...easy as that...

This thread showed it again, only with the exception, that you don't tell people how dumb they are out of nowhere, but you opened the whole thread just to be able to tell people how dumb they are, if they DON'T know what you're refering to with this thread...

And I only gave people notice about the facts regarding Nier Replicant/Gestalt, other than "OMFG orzloloroxxorz there is a chick with the **** playing the main part"

Not to show off(or just a little), but to let people know facts rather than you, spreading some sh*t among the internet and people believing that BS.

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And what does any of that have to do with chicks with ******


This is a forum for FFXIV General Discussion...so...yeah right. (b'-')b You Da Man, BRO!

edit: Who does give a sh*t about the rating system on this site btw? My life won't change just because someone rates me down/up...so who the @#%^ cares? I'm not here to make friends(if it happens, than ok, but not looking for some) so people can rate me up/down as much as they like.



Edited, Sep 23rd 2009 5:36pm by Shezard
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What makes me say that Kachi is the simple fact, that there is like a hand full of threads, where you don't tell people how dumb they are and how much cooler and better you are...easy as that...


Let me make sure I got this right...
There IS a handful of threads where I don't tell people how dumb they are and how much cooler and better I am?

Did it ever occur to you that maybe you don't read nearly all of my posts and only focus on the ones where I'm talking down to people I think are idiots? Because they are actually the considerable minority of my posts.

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you opened the whole thread just to be able to tell people how dumb they are, if they DON'T know what you're refering to with this thread...


No, I opened up this thread to talk about futanari in XIV and Nier Replicant, another SE game. It was only made clear what I was talking about in the next post, so I can see how that might make someone feel small and stupid for having to look down a WHOLE post and CLICK a link to figure out what the thread was about.

I further made it clear already that I thought "futanari" was a well-known term and that I fully intended to post the link if someone else didn't do it rather quickly.

So maybe you're just a touchy little *****.

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And I only gave people notive about the facts regarding Nier Replicant/Gestalt, other than "OMFG orzloloroxxorz there is a chick with the **** playing the main part"

Not to show off(or just a little), but to let people know facts rather than you, spreading some sh*t among the internet and people believing that BS.


Uh, except that nothing I said about the game was incorrect? How does you showing off your knowledge of Gestalt contradict anything I said about Replicant? It doesn't, does it?

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Where we frequently talk tangentially about SE and other games they're making in light of the implications that it could have for XIV, or just to socialize and **** around. Welcome to the forum. Would you like a program?

fyi, if you reply in argument, I'm totally going to start trolling you from now on. And I will enjoy it immensely.
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1. Lets not troll each other, all you end up doing is dragging your own topic OT...

2. The term Futanari was born in the **** and hentai industries. And it generally offends me hearing it being used to describe a game.

EDIT: It just offends me, simple as that. Same as how it would offerend me if the term was used in reference to any other art form. I also dont feel like spamming on such a redundant topic....

Edited, Sep 23rd 2009 2:49pm by Mitsuuko
#70 Sep 23 2009 at 10:44 AM Rating: Default
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Offends you? Please explain.
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If it's the term being used in reference to a piece of art that offends you, unfortunately, not much we can do about that. It's a descriptor, where it comes from has little baring on what it describes. "I girl with a *****" is too wordy for conversion, and it fails to encapsulate the concept like a single word description. Our other options are possible even more vulgar, "*************** "hermaphrodite" isn't bad, but as has been commented, isn't really the same thing. So unless you're offended by the concept itself, "futinari" is about the best we can do, sorry.

On a side note, I do believe this is the most obvious sexual reference SE has made in a Final Fantasy game since FF6's overly friendly squid/octopus (does anyone remember what this guy actually was?) boss.
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epeen battle in a thread about girlpeens?

We may very well have stumbled upon a genuine "Internet's First"
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It just offends me, simple as that. Same as how it would offerend me if the term was used in reference to any other art form. I also dont feel like spamming on such a redundant topic....


I'm not trying to antagonize you-- I'm genuinely confused as to why it would offend you, or anyone for that matter.

You won't be spamming, and how is this redundant? Do you get into futa debates frequently or something? :P

But on principle I'm not satisfied with "it just offends me." In fact I actively promote the idea of not -letting- things offend you whenever possible. e.g., by all means explain to people how disrespectful and dehumanizing terms like "******" are, but don't waste your precious emotional positivity by allowing them to faze you. Preach+1
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Ok, now we're going to get slash fiction of Wint x Kachi somehere... rule 34 and all...

Never confuse your inference as the listener for an implication of the speaker.

Good games are subjective like good food is subjective. You're not going to seriously tell me that there's not a psychological basis for why pizza is great and lutefisk is revolting. The thing about subjectivity is that, as subjects go, humans actually have a great deal in common.
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It's a descriptor, where it comes from has little baring on what it describes.


It has alot of baring. Sense the term isnt just born in the **** industry but its meant solely to describe a **** fetish. Same for ********* For example in the real world you wouldnt call a pre-op transsexual a "*************** The term only should apply to the fetish in relations to ****. I know its "cool" to not be PC but atleast show some respect to transgenders.

@Kachi: I am sure this sheds a bit more light on why it affends me. Partly due to a "**** fetish" being forced into games which seems like most ridiculous thing. And also due to my respect for transgender people.

And what I was referring to redundancy is the oncoming PC debate which I knew would insue if I continued <_<

Edited, Sep 23rd 2009 4:47pm by Mitsuuko

Edited, Sep 23rd 2009 4:55pm by Mitsuuko
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I guess I see your point, but help me out here. You're saying the association with futanari= **** girl with a *****. Thus, referring to a character in a storyline who is basically transgender as a futanari dehumanizes them to a **** object? Am I anywhere ballpark on that?

I can see why that might be offensive, along the lines of, I don't know, calling all women sluts or cumdumps or something like that, based on how they're portrayed in pornography. And if I were reading a book, watching a movie, or playing an RPG where a character was futa/transgender, I would at least hope that they have a level of depth and humanity that I quickly move past the superficial "lol futa" and start to identify with the character in some way.

That said, it's hard not to think "futa" when the pornography medium is Japanese art, and the medium for this story is also... Japanese art.

See? This is a classy *** thread.
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Good games are subjective like good food is subjective. You're not going to seriously tell me that there's not a psychological basis for why pizza is great and lutefisk is revolting. The thing about subjectivity is that, as subjects go, humans actually have a great deal in common.
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I guess I see your point, but help me out here. You're saying the association with futanari= **** girl with a *****. Thus, referring to a character in a storyline who is basically transgender as a futanari dehumanizes them to a **** object? Am I anywhere ballpark on that?

I can see why that might be offensive, along the lines of, I don't know, calling all women sluts or cumdumps or something like that, based on how they're portrayed in pornography. And if I were reading a book, watching a movie, or playing an RPG where a character was futa/transgender, I would at least hope that they have a level of depth and humanity that I quickly move past the superficial "lol futa" and start to identify with the character in some way.

That said, it's hard not to think "futa" when the pornography medium is Japanese art, and the medium for this story is also... Japanese art.

See? This is a classy *** thread.


To expand a bit, I have no issue with transgenders in games, I think its positive move forward. But I am sure no one will argue that "futa" "************** has a negative connotation with regards to the **** fetish. For me ultimately I am a bit upset hearing such a negative connotation being used and not the existence of a transgender in a game.
#77Zackary, Posted: Sep 23 2009 at 1:07 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I can't say I've ever given it nearly enough thought for it to matter.
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@Shezard
Guess this makes roughly half the population on this forum a bunch of obtuse sh*theads. Maybe we should all open up a club or something. I can already imagine the advertisements:

New in town: The army of obtuse sh*theads! Handpicked by Kachi himself. (^.^)/(*.O)

@lolgaxe +1
Impressive. If this girl really is a boy, I might start to think twice about fishing only on the hetero side... Then again, yes. I remember when some years ago, a really beautiful Japanese girl applied for a job at the restaurant I was jobbing at at the time. What a pity he was married. ;)

@Kachi
Don`t worry about futanari spoiling *your* XIV. There is no such thing to spoil to begin with.

P.S.: Eh? EH? (Sorry - I`m an obtuse sh*thead. Guess I just have to do this.)

Edited, Sep 24th 2009 1:04pm by Rinsui
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Mitsuuko wrote:

To expand a bit, I have no issue with transgenders in games, I think its positive move forward. But I am sure no one will argue that "futa" "************** has a negative connotation with regards to the **** fetish. For me ultimately I am a bit upset hearing such a negative connotation being used and not the existence of a transgender in a game.

I've said it once and I'll say it again: The LGBT community doesn't need you or SE sticking up for it. Having a hermaphrodite character isn't a "positive move forward". There is no moral or social victory associated with it. It's nothing but a company trying to exploit an edgy concept to boost sales.
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Hermaphrodite is used to describe someone containing both genitalia.

Futanari, like kachi said, has a strong connotation of someone with ******* and a *****. While futa can refer to either or, it usually is just the latter, while hermaphrodite is strictly the former.

English doesn't have a proper term for a person with ******* and a *****.

(obviously when I say ******* i mean as a woman's)



I don't even ******* want to know why you know so much about this.
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I seriously can't believe people are getting so worked up over a thread that was supposed to be humorous. God you people suck.
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#82 Sep 23 2009 at 8:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Bardalicious wrote:

I've said it once and I'll say it again: The LGBT community doesn't need you or SE sticking up for it. Having a hermaphrodite character isn't a "positive move forward". There is no moral or social victory associated with it. It's nothing but a company trying to exploit an edgy concept to boost sales.


I couldnt care less what LGBT community thinks of my personal believes and actions nor do I care about "moral or social victories". I just enjoy stories on transgender people. If thats in book or game. Companies exploit every single thing they come in contact with, its pointless to give it much thought.
#83 Sep 24 2009 at 3:30 AM Rating: Decent
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I seriously can't believe people are getting so worked up over a thread that was supposed to be humorous. God you people suck.
They're just like the furries.

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Don`t worry about futanari spoiling YOUR XIV. There is no such thing to spoil to begin with.

P.S.: Eh? EH? (Sorry - I`m an obtuse sh*thead. Guess I just have to do this.)


O WOW, I THINK MAYBE THIS GUY THINKS THAT I REALLY THINK THAT FFXIV IS MINE.

Yes, you're an obtuse ********* because you fail so utterly at recursive thinking.

Look up the word facetious, and maybe in the future don't assume the worst about people right off the bat.

i.e., WHOOSH.

See also: "Wow, way to act like a total **** about something you completely misunderstood."
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#85 Sep 24 2009 at 9:17 AM Rating: Default
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Kachi, just stop responding so that these idiots will run out of fuel.
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Hermaphrodite is used to describe someone containing both genitalia.

Futanari, like kachi said, has a strong connotation of someone with ******* and a *****. While futa can refer to either or, it usually is just the latter, while hermaphrodite is strictly the former.

English doesn't have a proper term for a person with ******* and a *****.

(obviously when I say ******* i mean as a woman's)



I don't even @#%^ing want to know why you know so much about this.


It's called, "Having a knowledgeable vocabulary"? I'd rather know a lot about what a strange word means so I know when someone is trying to use it against me, than to have no idea and look like a fool.

Also, in no documentation that I've seen, is futanari considered to be a demeaning term. I've actually heard it used in a completely non-demeaning conversation by native japanese speakers. Sure, the term came about from a hentai fetish, but that doesn't mean that the term is specifically demeaning. At the same time, look at what the different parts of the word mean. Futa means 2. Nari refers to ones form.

Deadgye: I said "proper term" "************** isn't a proper term. "Trap", while funny, isn't a proper term for the situation. The closest thing we have is hermaphrodite, which is just a little bit different.
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I thought the term in English was, "*******" ?
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I thought the term in English was, "*******" ?


Did this really need a bumb ? such a pointless thread.

Anyways most people realize there are many english equivalents to the words. We just have quite a few weeaboo who wants to look cool by throwing around random japanese words.
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But I am sure no one will argue that "futa" "************** has a negative connotation with regards to the **** fetish.


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Did this really need a bumb ? such a pointless thread.


Only one way to find out.

Did you really need to call someone you don't know at all a weeaboo? Isn't calling someone a weeaboo a little hypocritical? I imagine there's a pretty good correlation between people who actually know what futanari means vs. people who actually know what weeaboo means. I mean, probably not the most valid measure, but futanari kicks weeaboo's *** in a google fight.
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Ok, now we're going to get slash fiction of Wint x Kachi somehere... rule 34 and all...

Never confuse your inference as the listener for an implication of the speaker.

Good games are subjective like good food is subjective. You're not going to seriously tell me that there's not a psychological basis for why pizza is great and lutefisk is revolting. The thing about subjectivity is that, as subjects go, humans actually have a great deal in common.
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