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#1 Oct 04 2009 at 9:20 AM Rating: Default
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I'm buying a new PC. We obviously don't know the system requirements for FFXIV yet, but based on what we've seen and heard; do you guys think it will be able to run FFXIV fairly well?

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Edition
Intel® Core™ i7 920 Processor (4x 2.66GHz/8MB L3 Cache)
ATI Radeon HD 5870 - 1GB
6GB RAM
1920 x 1080 (23.6" LCD)

(At least I know it should be able to run Aion in beautiful high definition)


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#2 Oct 04 2009 at 9:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Looks solid enough to be able to run it as far as my guess goes. I'd advise you to wait a bit closer to release to purchase it, if FFXIV is the only reason you're buying it though, as it'll probably be cheaper then.

Best of luck with your system =D
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#3 Oct 04 2009 at 9:47 AM Rating: Default
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Unfortunately I do want to buy this PC sooner rather than later, for school and for other games like Aion. FFXI, as well, but it's not really needed for that... though I think it will pretty up FFXI a bit. My laptop has just been ******* me off since I got it two summers ago. Never buy a Dell. (the specs aren't even that bad...)

But I guess laptops are never meant to be used for games.

Anyway, I would wait on FFXIV but 2010 could mean December 2010. (and it probably will.)
That's over a year away. If the game turns out to be REALLY demanding, I'll have my PS3 until my PC is good enough.
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#4 Oct 04 2009 at 10:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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That's basically the best you can buy right now so I don't see why there would be any doubt if it can play the game fairly well.

If you wanted to brag, disguising your intentions with a false question, it worked, because I'm thoroughly jealous.

If you wanted to know if it would run the game perfectly, though, that would be entirely different. I would guess it could but you never know.
#5 Oct 04 2009 at 10:11 AM Rating: Good
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that will definitely run ffxiv with no problem at all. You may need to OC your 920 to around 3.5-4.0 ghz if you want to have max settings though.
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#6 Oct 04 2009 at 12:25 PM Rating: Decent
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The ATI 5800 series of cards just came out. Not knowing what your buying..? Hard to believe with what you listed. You know it will kick ***. And every 5870 review uses the i7 920 or some form of i7 (1366 socket). Since the i5/17 (1156 socket) motherboards only support x16 & x8 in SLI or Crossfire. So be sure your getting a premium 750w power supply at least. Because if you don't get a second 5870 down the road it would be like having *** and not getting off. At 1080p resolution a second one is definitely not needed but it guarantee's max settings at your resolution for a very long time on any game.

This review uses your same cpu and 5870. Single and CF testing.
i7 920 & ATI 5870

CF testing

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You're wondering if an i7 and a 5870 will be able to run XIV?

Give me a break, dude.
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#8 Oct 04 2009 at 1:00 PM Rating: Decent
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I wish Intel could have just kept using the Pentium name for their processors, or something else that's simple. What the heck does i7 920 mean? Before that I guess there was Core Duo or whatever. I'm confused now.
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#9 Oct 04 2009 at 1:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kirbster wrote:
You're wondering if an i7 and a 5870 will be able to run XIV?

Give me a break, dude.

It amazes me how stupid people can have so much money.
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#10 Oct 04 2009 at 1:56 PM Rating: Decent
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I feel so old with my old PC using a single core. And my graphic card is thousands of numbers off from the latest.

I'd buy a new one, but I like playing old games too so I need to figure out how to have 2 computers set up decently.
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I feel so old with my old PC using a single core. And my graphic card is thousands of numbers off from the latest.

I'd buy a new one, but I like playing old games too so I need to figure out how to have 2 computers set up decently.


Wouldn't a new PC be able to run your old games?
#12 Oct 05 2009 at 10:54 AM Rating: Default
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Don't buy a computer now if you want to play FFXIV. There is no exact release date for FFXIV, and all the guesses are between September and December 2010. It's way better to wait and buy your computer 1 month before retail release. That way, you get way more computer power for your bucks.
#13 Oct 05 2009 at 10:55 AM Rating: Good
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This is like asking if your PS3 will play FFVII ok (emulation issues aside).

No one likes a bragger. Or an idiot.
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#14 Oct 05 2009 at 12:08 PM Rating: Default
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I'm not really good with computers. I did some basic research to find out that these were pretty good options, but I don't know how quickly this stuff becomes outdated.

It's not really that expensive. It's over $1000 but it's an investment that I want to make.
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TauuOfSiren wrote:
I wish Intel could have just kept using the Pentium name for their processors, or something else that's simple. What the heck does i7 920 mean? Before that I guess there was Core Duo or whatever. I'm confused now.


If I had to put a name to it, Pentium 8 probably.

Pentium 4 -> Pentium 4*
Pentium D (First line of dual Cores basically) -> Pentium 5**
Core 2 (All around better dual core built differently to be more efficient) -> Pentium 6
Core 2 Quad (Quad Cores obviously using two Core 2) -> Pentium 7
I7 (Better quads, I don't know too much bout them unfortunately but if I had to guess, a unified cache like the Core 2s except with quads, but don't ask me) -> Pentium 8


* You did have two different Pentium 4s. The regular line everyone knows of, and then HT or Hyper threading. The Hyper Threading is basically an emulated dual core but still single core IIRC.

** While you had Pentium D and Viiv, Viiv was just a 64 bit version of the Pentium D version so it was commonly called Pentium D Viiv.

There are of course, other processors (I think Xeon is one?) as well as your off-ones like the Celeron series and Atoms, but I am just sticking to the main processor lines you find in your standard home computer. Working from memory, thats the ordering from least powerful to most as of beginning of this year, anything after, including info on I7, I couldn't really tell you too much on.

The difference between a regular Pentium D and a Core 2 is simply the processors work on a unified and enlarged cache instead of individual caches so both processors keep running. The regular Core 2 quad is simply two pairs of Core 2, so while the pair is on unified cache they are separated from the other pair. Unfortunately I stopped working retail and stopped doing Intel quizzes for dirt cheap bundles around the time I7 came out, but if I had to guess, the I7 is probably the unified cache version of a Core 2 quad, but faster- however I don't really know.

Regardless, if the pentium number line continued after 4, the I7 would essentially be 8.








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I'm not really good with computers. I did some basic research to find out that these were pretty good options, but I don't know how quickly this stuff becomes outdated.


I'll be as blunt to you as I am with everyone that I use to help- it VERY MUCH DEPENDS on your lifestyle. GOING BY THE $1000-2000 range assuming you build...

If you're a constant gamer always trying to stay on top, there is no such thing as a computer that will 'last'. You'll be changing out processors, mobo, and graphics card on a yearly basis (You basically have the new intel/amd processors this time of year as well as major graphic card lines basically every 6 months if I had to slap a time line).

If you are sticking to the MMO scene of things, what you build today, chances are, will work with most if not all MMO games 4-5 years from now.

If you are a moderate gamer (not PMGWTF 125% GRAPHICS OR GTFO on everything) and just play whatever is newer on normal settings, whatever you piece together today will probably last you 3-5 years depending on game style.

If you aren't a major gamer, you just play whatever looks fun not based off of graphics and catch yourself playing the same game for years (Examples like Diablo series/starcraft/current MMOs come to mind, not saying those specific titles but playing it long like that for a few years like most use to), a computer should easily last 5 years or more assuming you don't get a omgwtf game before then.

That's just going by rough examples and by a set play style.

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Don't buy a computer now if you want to play FFXIV. There is no exact release date for FFXIV, and all the guesses are between September and December 2010. It's way better to wait and buy your computer 1 month before retail release. That way, you get way more computer power for your bucks.



I'll be blunt and realistic. I highly doubt the game is in the alpha stages anymore and if anything, is going through major debugging before first stage beta begins, especially if it is in anyway semi-playable for upcoming E3 demos and such. Any kind of major graphic or playstyle changes at this point would cause the game to be pushed back by a year most likely, and changes at this point would probably be quest implementing, storyline, cutscene/centimatics, etc... In other words, the base system should most likely be put together by now. It is also a game that is suppose to run on both the PS3 and Xbox 30 (An Xbox 360 version is not announced yes, but they are trying to get it on there IIRC) so what that means is a pimped out computer right now SHOULD work as well as a mostly well built computer a month BEFORE release assuming the game comes out a year from now on time. We should be seeing beta beginning soon so it HAS to be playable on your "High end" computers out now realistically, or the only beta, even if it only plays on PS3 when the beta begins. That's just looking at it at a common sense point of view.

Now, if it were to release 2 years from now, beta wouldn't be starting for a while leaving any stage before more time to do any kind of drastic changes, but then again, you're assuming that they also do not go to Xbox 360 at all (I mean, seriously... I'd be worried if an I7 with an ATI 5700+ can't run something an xbox can)

Edited, Oct 5th 2009 9:05pm by PyroElf
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#16 Oct 05 2009 at 10:04 PM Rating: Default
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PyroElf wrote:

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Don't buy a computer now if you want to play FFXIV. There is no exact release date for FFXIV, and all the guesses are between September and December 2010. It's way better to wait and buy your computer 1 month before retail release. That way, you get way more computer power for your bucks.



I'll be blunt and realistic. I highly doubt the game is in the alpha stages anymore and if anything, is going through major debugging before first stage beta begins, especially if it is in anyway semi-playable for upcoming E3 demos and such. Any kind of major graphic or playstyle changes at this point would cause the game to be pushed back by a year most likely, and changes at this point would probably be quest implementing, storyline, cutscene/centimatics, etc... In other words, the base system should most likely be put together by now. It is also a game that is suppose to run on both the PS3 and Xbox 30 (An Xbox 360 version is not announced yes, but they are trying to get it on there IIRC) so what that means is a pimped out computer right now SHOULD work as well as a mostly well built computer a month BEFORE release assuming the game comes out a year from now on time. We should be seeing beta beginning soon so it HAS to be playable on your "High end" computers out now realistically, or the only beta, even if it only plays on PS3 when the beta begins. That's just looking at it at a common sense point of view.

Now, if it were to release 2 years from now, beta wouldn't be starting for a while leaving any stage before more time to do any kind of drastic changes, but then again, you're assuming that they also do not go to Xbox 360 at all (I mean, seriously... I'd be worried if an I7 with an ATI 5700+ can't run something an xbox can)



The point I tried to make was not if a good system would work or wouldn't. Of cource it will work, but if you wait a year before you buy your computer you get a system that is way more powerful then the system you can buy today for the same $. This is only true if you want to buy a computer only for playing FFXIV and other tasks or games doesn't matter for you.
#17 Oct 06 2009 at 3:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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You'd need to overclock with Liquid Nitrogen up to 7GHz on the CPU and 2GHz for the GPU to run at 800x600.
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You'd need to overclock with Liquid Nitrogen up to 7GHz on the CPU and 2GHz for the GPU to run at 800x600.


Well, I suppose my Computer powered with a Flux Capacitor at 1.21 jigawatts might be fine...
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