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#1 Oct 05 2009 at 11:11 AM Rating: Good
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Obviously, for a lot of you, the answer is a resounding 'YES!'

But for me, though I am itching like crazy to get my hands on the game, I think I'd rather wait for the full retail finished product. Here's why.

I am well past my days of bachelorhood where I could frivolously play for hours on end. I have adult responsibilities and limited time to game.

With that said, I'd love to get an early peek into the game, but I don't want to put time into developing a character of any sort just to have it wiped daily or once launch happens. I don't want to have to redo quests. I want everything to be fresh and new the first time I go through it.

On a similar line, I worry that by the time the game launches, there will already be guides walking you through the first 20 "levels" or so, written up by people in the beta. I don't know how strong the NDA will be, but I'm hoping that when I do finally get into the game, it will all still be there, waiting for me to explore and discover, and not carefully mapped out my the thousands before me.

What about you guys? Are you die hard beta testers who love finding bugs and doing your duty as a beta tester? Are you just itching to start playing, beta or not?
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#2 Oct 05 2009 at 11:27 AM Rating: Decent
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I am well past my days of bachelorhood where I could frivolously play for hours on end. I have adult responsibilities and limited time to game.

My wife wants to play beta as badly as I do lol. When we find a new fun game we both play frivolously together for hour on end.
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On a similar line, I worry that by the time the game launches, there will already be guides walking you through the first 20 "levels" or so, written up by people in the beta. I don't know how strong the NDA will be, but I'm hoping that when I do finally get into the game, it will all still be there, waiting for me to explore and discover, and not carefully mapped out my the thousands before me.

Just don't read the guides if you want to explore things yourself. You can still do that for any MMORPG. Btw no NDA is strong enough to last after the game comes out anyway lol, so at launch NDA drops so of course there will be some guides.
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Are you die hard beta testers who love finding bugs and doing your duty as a beta tester? Are you just itching to start playing, beta or not?

Both, I have no problems jotting down a few problems to send in while playing.
#3 Oct 05 2009 at 11:32 AM Rating: Decent
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My wife wants to play beta as badly as I do lol. When we find a new fun game we both play frivolously together for hour on end.


Man am I jealous. I can get the gf to play Carcassone on XBLA occasionally, but that's the extent of her willingness to participate in video games. You're a lucky man.


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Just don't read the guides if you want to explore things yourself. You can still do that for any MMORPG. Btw no NDA is strong enough to last after the game comes out anyway lol, so at launch NDA drops so of course there will be some guides.


Yea, there's always the ignoring of the internet. But it can be hard to avoid those things. You know, I get the feeling if I tried to discover how everything worked without it, I'd get left behind in the game. But regardless, I will be attempting to avoid just looking things up instead of doing my in-game research.

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#4 Oct 05 2009 at 11:55 AM Rating: Good
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I am well past my days of bachelorhood where I could frivolously play for hours on end. I have adult responsibilities and limited time to game.


I feel your pain, at least as a full time student in a very demanding major.

I don't have as much time to play MMOs or games as much as I used to, so risking the chance that I'll invest way too much time in an MMO is something I worry about.

That being said, I love contributing to the wiki and being the first person to map the way. I'd love to be in the beta, but would I spend as much time in it as I would in the retail release? Probably not. I'll probably spend my time exploring.
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#5 Oct 05 2009 at 12:46 PM Rating: Good
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I love playing betas. When the game actually comes out, you can get a small sense of accomplishment along with the people who made it, like "I helped make this launch a lot less ******."


Maybe I'm just weird? I don't know.
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I love playing betas. When the game actually comes out, you can get a small sense of accomplishment along with the people who made it, like "I helped make this launch a lot less sh*tty."


Maybe I'm just weird? I don't know.


This, helping with the creation of something amazing always feels awesome.
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#7 Oct 05 2009 at 12:55 PM Rating: Good
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yes, but then again I have 3 PLDs of different races on WoW so repetition obviously doesn't bother me.
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#8 Oct 05 2009 at 1:01 PM Rating: Good
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I think my main problem with it is that by being in the beta, it takes some of the fantasy out of it for me. I like getting really sucked up in the environment of the game. I think I'm borderline a Role Player (part of me wants to, but I never really do). Being in the beta and testing out the world makes it feel less like a place and more like a game.

I agree though, that feeling like you had a hand in something like this is pretty cool.
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#9 Oct 05 2009 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
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I would definitely like to play in the beta for a few reasons.

1.) I am not too interested in any other games right now. I'm not really buying any other games because I am saving up for a new PC, a trip (probably) overseas, new work clothes. So I've been replaying old games and really just waiting for FFXIV. The sooner I have a new game to play the better.

2.) I don't have much time to play, and for that reason I would like to play in the beta. I feel like I can take my time exploring the areas and testing for any problems, rather than feeling pressure to level up or find groups. The idea of a character whipe doesn't bother me, and, because of that, I wouldn't mind playing in the beta.

3.) It sort of feels like a sneak peak. I guess I get satisfaction out of saying to myself "Wow, I'm one of the few folks who are getting to see this!"

4.) In two of the three betas I participated in the customer service was a lot better and GMs were much more responsive to problems. There are more problems with the game but they get fixed quickly. Unfortunately, in the past few games I've played, once the game goes live GMs stop really caring as much after a few weeks. Sometimes it takes months to fix a problem and when something bad happens to someone that is the fault of a developer nothing is really done.

For example, a player is stuck. GM comes out, frees the player, and writes a report. No one is stuck in that place again.
Once the game is out of beta: Player is stuck - calls a GM. Waits...GM arrives 10 minutes later. GM frees player (in some cases I've had GMs appear, say nothing, and leave without solving the problem), GM was going to write up a report but doesn't.
Hundreds more players get stuck. 2 months later the problem is fixed.

That's one reason I like betas...better customer service.

Some reasons I don't like betas:

1.) Many players will apply for the beta with no interest in finding problems, following instructions, or reporting flaws. Therefore, less problems are fixed.
I would like to see a system where players are rewarded for finding faults in the game and reporting them.

2.) Many players sign up for beta without realizing there will be a character wipe. When they find out they shout and curse.
Or players, knowing there will be a wipe, sign up anyway and then complain about the wipe regardless.

3.) Players who sign up and play without understand what it means to be a 'beta' version and continually complain to other players about every problem they encounter but never report it.

Anyway, yes, I would very much like to participate in the beta and help prepare the game for the retail release.
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#10 Oct 05 2009 at 1:57 PM Rating: Good
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I never like to be in betas because it ruins the game for me. Instead of getting immersed into the world, I begin to see it as a computer game. It's like looking at candy and thinking of diabetes opposed to yum yum goodiness. I want the childish innocence of looking at Eoreza as a world, not a collection of programming. In short, I'd take the blue pill.
#11 Oct 05 2009 at 2:06 PM Rating: Decent
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I'd only bother with beta if they actually first promised to listen to my reports. Would be rather pointless to beta a game that they don't care about what you say unless it is "I can buy this item for 500 gil and sell it for 5000 gil!".
#12 Oct 07 2009 at 10:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Part of me thinks being in the beta would be cool, but a bigger part of me just wants to wait for the actual release. I think it'd be fun to be a part of building something great (even if it was just as a tester), and I've been MMO-less (or MMO-free, depending on your point of view) for 18 months or so since I re-re-re-quit XI.

Mostly though, there are other games out that I want to play. Uncharted 2, Forza 3, Brutal Legends, Assassin's Creed 2, etc. I don't have that much gaming time to go around. Plus, being in the beta, there's a certain amount of responsibility that comes from that, and in some ways it's like having a part-time job. I let XI become enough of a second job for me that I don't need to take on real responsibility in another MMO.
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#13 Oct 07 2009 at 1:46 PM Rating: Decent
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I am well past my days of bachelorhood where I could frivolously play for hours on end. I have adult responsibilities and limited time to game.

I also have limited time to game, but I think that's actually the perfect reason to play beta rather than not to. By playing beta, you have the chance to see what the game is like so there's no real harm in trying. This is assuming that you aren't required to play long hours continuously for beta.

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I want everything to be fresh and new the first time I go through it.

Very understandable, but sometimes I get annoyed with the little things at the beginning like figuring out how to move around, using the chat function, where to find this and that. If I were to play beta, I'd probably pick one starting city and figure out the basic things, then when launch is ready, I'd pick a different starting city to get the fresh factor.
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I can't play online until I move. There's no reliable broadband services here. Knowing this it's probably just my luck I'll get chosen for beta...
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I am well past my days of bachelorhood where I could frivolously play for hours on end. I have adult responsibilities and limited time to game.

My wife wants to play beta as badly as I do lol. When we find a new fun game we both play frivolously together for hour on end.
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On a similar line, I worry that by the time the game launches, there will already be guides walking you through the first 20 "levels" or so, written up by people in the beta. I don't know how strong the NDA will be, but I'm hoping that when I do finally get into the game, it will all still be there, waiting for me to explore and discover, and not carefully mapped out my the thousands before me.

Just don't read the guides if you want to explore things yourself. You can still do that for any MMORPG. Btw no NDA is strong enough to last after the game comes out anyway lol, so at launch NDA drops so of course there will be some guides.
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Are you die hard beta testers who love finding bugs and doing your duty as a beta tester? Are you just itching to start playing, beta or not?

Both, I have no problems jotting down a few problems to send in while playing.


lol i cant get any girl i dated to play this game with me. lol i think that how they became my ex after ward. they could'nt stand me playing this game even for a hr.
#16 Oct 07 2009 at 11:48 PM Rating: Decent
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I have mixed feelings about it potentially spoiling the game for me, but I would really relish the opportunity to provide input on the game and actually have it be given a measure of consideration.

Initially I would have been happy just to be given the edge of familiarity, but I don't want to approach the game with a competitive mind set. I just want to enjoy it with friends.
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Initially I would have been happy just to be given the edge of familiarity, but I don't want to approach the game with a competitive mind set. I just want to enjoy it with friends.


+1 on that! I let myself get too involved in the "competitive" side of XI (and I was not nearly as absorbed as many other players I know), and looking back, I think back much more fondly of my first trip into Zitah with friends than I do of that time I worked with an HNMLS to help kill Tiamat. Leveling (dinging, rather) was exciting, and it was always nice to have good gear, but in the end, it was as much fun to me to help a new player get Kazham keys as it was to do BCNM99s.

I want to approach XIV with the intention of playing it in a more low-key manner, enjoying it with my friends and not getting too caught up in the other crap. Of course, I had no intention of getting caught up in that in XI either, but that is neither here nor there! :D
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#18 Oct 08 2009 at 6:20 PM Rating: Decent
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when i 1st read this thread my answer was no (though i didnt reply) but after seeing the new info that is out. i think i would love to play the beta. mainly cause i cant wait to play it. but more importantly the beta will start off on the PC and if i buy it, i will but it for my ps3.
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#19 Oct 09 2009 at 4:50 AM Rating: Good
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Frankly, I'm starting to feel a little jaded toward people who want in just for the sake of getting to play it before everyone else, with little to no intention of actually testing the game and submitting bug reports and such. It's called a beta test for a reason; it's not a demo or a preview. There's no doubt really that a good chunk of people who get into the closed beta will be disappointed to see an incomplete and buggy game, and will actually have the gall to complain about it.

There's a reason beta opt-in forms usually ask your willingness to submit bug reports and why you're interested in the first place. Some people in this thread have the right idea, and I share the sentiment: we want to get in and help the developers improve FFXIV in ways they might not have without our input, so the retail release will go smoother and be that much better, and we get to point to something and say "Hey, see that? That used to be broken until I pointed it out!"

It's supposed to be about contribution just as much as it is about seeing tomorrow before everyone else, and if you can't appreciate the former, you don't deserve to get in. Once open beta hits, go crazy, but it's really depressing to think that a closed beta slot in which I could have helped out could potentially go wasted on some kid who plays for twenty minutes before quitting and screaming "GRRR THIS GAME IS SO TERRIBLE, STUPID SQUARE-ENIX ENEMIES OF YOUR FREEDOM!"

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#20 Oct 09 2009 at 9:20 AM Rating: Good
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The more I think about it, the less I want to play in beta. To concur with above posters, I want the "freshness factor". I want to log in for the first time, my first new character, a name that I'll have for a long time, and go and jump right into everything. Playing it again will slightly lessen that intense 'new character' feeling. My favourite thing to do in most games seems to be the starting-a-new-character part D:

Just hope the launch isn't delayed! We don't even have a month yet, but still!
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