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#52 Oct 08 2009 at 6:39 AM Rating: Default
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(welcome to the internet, grow some skin. sidenote: lol)
What a fool. How does being on the internet change *anything* about decent conversations/discussions? What kind of ******* idiot thinks it's okay to be a complete **** or throw away any sort of decency just because they're on the internet? I don't think you realize how stupid that statement was.

I'm not saying anyone in the thread was acting like a ****. I'm just addressing what that statement implied.

Oh, BY THE WAY. I've probably been on the internet for longer than you, so shut the **** up.
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(welcome to the internet, grow some skin. sidenote: lol)
What a fool. How does being on the internet change *anything* about decent conversations/discussions? What kind of @#%^ing idiot thinks it's okay to be a complete **** or throw away any sort of decency just because they're on the internet? I don't think you realize how stupid that statement was.

I'm not saying anyone in the thread was acting like a ****. I'm just addressing what that statement implied.

Oh, BY THE WAY. I've probably been on the internet for longer than you, so shut the @#%^ up.
normal people + anonymity = jackasses

It's a pretty commonly accepted phenomenon. If there are no real repercussions for not acting "civilized" people will act however they feel like. Getting all bent out of shape over some forum goer's word choice (it wasn't like it was even particularly offensive) is hilariously noobish.

I do love it when people make presumptions about my age based on my posts though, and even better when they pretend like my age relative to theirs actually matters in the slightest in this medium (or in any medium really, you have to be pretty young or sheltered not to have met idiot old people or genius kids). classic
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Shin, to a certain extent, I understand what you're saying, but it's not as simple as, "We want X. Here is our money. Now give us X." Ignoring peoples' wants IS a crappy business model. But so is trying to satisfy every whim from every player. I'm not saying that a male Miq is a particularly unreasonable request either, but to simplify it to the point of "we're paying for it, we should get what we want" just doesn't work.
You can't satisfy everyone's wants, but every poor choice you make knocks off a fraction of your player base or decreases the desire to play of your remaining player base (making them more likely to leave later if their needs continue to not be met), and when you're like SE and make strings of poor decisions even minor things really start to bother people. FFXI was a good game, I like the final fantasy series and enjoyed the friends I've met playing, but given the weight of the franchise, the addictiveness of MMOs, and resources available to SE, it's downright pathetic that the FFXI playerbase is soo small. If SE wants to make real money and not just keep halfassing it, they need to stop making major design decisions based on laziness and what the design team wants, and start making them based on what they think the playerbase would enjoy (start taking more feedback too!) and what would keep us happy the longest. Genders for every race is such a straightforward, (relatively) non-complicated crowd pleaser, it doesn't make a lot of sense not to do it.

tl;dr SE isn't "required"/"obligated" to try to keep people happy, but they're fools not to at least try (or put on the appearance of trying at the very least).
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#54 Oct 08 2009 at 12:31 PM Rating: Good
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No, I think the first thing that needs to be reported is: "Hey, I can't seem to type in Japanese! The IME you obviously intended to include in the NA client must be broken."
#55 Oct 08 2009 at 1:28 PM Rating: Decent
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They Posses enormous, muscular build and are known for the cultural emphasis they place on competition and unflinching courage, though tender, introspective individuals can also be found.


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Far away, deep in the mountains of Ul'dah, live mountain clans of reclusive Roegadyn known as the Hellsguard, said to have mastered the magical arts.


tender and masters of magical arts, obviously the opposite of what you'd normally see/expect from Roe's, maybe this hints at the existence of their female counterparts :o them being more adept at magic and males more adept at tasks requiring more raw power(I sense a reason female Roes arent playable as a race because of this...similar to Mithra male storyline in XI)

...doesnt matter much to me, Imma be a Roe for sure just a thought that came up while pretending to work waiting for 20 mins to pass so I can leave work
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#56 Oct 08 2009 at 6:43 PM Rating: Good
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I'm not saying anyone in the thread was acting like a ****.


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There's a difference between constructive criticism and being a ****.


Well it sure sounded like it.

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What a fool. How does being on the internet change *anything* about decent conversations/discussions? What kind of @#%^ing idiot thinks it's okay to be a complete **** or throw away any sort of decency just because they're on the internet? I don't think you realize how stupid that statement was.

I'm not saying anyone in the thread was acting like a ****. I'm just addressing what that statement implied.

Oh, BY THE WAY. I've probably been on the internet for longer than you, so shut the @#%^ up.


I'm kinda lmao right now. This from the guy who was scolding me for calling a hypothetical design decision asinine.
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#57 Oct 08 2009 at 7:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, this thread is going places.

Trolls trolling trolls.

Edited, Oct 8th 2009 8:23pm by Kirbster
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#58 Oct 08 2009 at 7:50 PM Rating: Default
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#59 Oct 08 2009 at 10:02 PM Rating: Good
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Not all unproductive discourse is trolling. It's just a catfight! And since there are no male cats, you should be enjoying it!
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Ok, now we're going to get slash fiction of Wint x Kachi somehere... rule 34 and all...

Never confuse your inference as the listener for an implication of the speaker.

Good games are subjective like good food is subjective. You're not going to seriously tell me that there's not a psychological basis for why pizza is great and lutefisk is revolting. The thing about subjectivity is that, as subjects go, humans actually have a great deal in common.
#60 Oct 08 2009 at 11:12 PM Rating: Default
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hmmmmmmm...............
I still like the part about playable goblins.
I also want double eyepatches, to increase my pirate bravado.
Effective? No. But it would be funny.

Yea, thats a keeper. New signature.
Edited, Oct 9th 2009 3:16am by AmsaimSutavarg

Edited, Oct 9th 2009 3:18am by AmsaimSutavarg
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#61 Oct 08 2009 at 11:19 PM Rating: Decent
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NO! One eye patch does not adequately convey my pirateyness!

Reminds me of the pirate guy on Family Guy. Not even he has two eye patches.
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Ok, now we're going to get slash fiction of Wint x Kachi somehere... rule 34 and all...

Never confuse your inference as the listener for an implication of the speaker.

Good games are subjective like good food is subjective. You're not going to seriously tell me that there's not a psychological basis for why pizza is great and lutefisk is revolting. The thing about subjectivity is that, as subjects go, humans actually have a great deal in common.
#62 Oct 09 2009 at 6:01 AM Rating: Default
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Kepp in mind this is just my opinion, and nothing I say is based off of any studying other than watching Anime for about 5 years now, but I think the reason you will never see male "Mithra" or female "Galka" is that eastern culture is very different from western. Eastern culture has no problems with the idea of a genderless person, or one who decides to be a different gender than that which they were born. I am not judging these people, or the eastern culture who openly accepts them of western culture who is mixed on the subject. Maybe SE is just not interested in making a social call on the matter and feels this is the best way to not offend the most amount of people. Then again, I could be looking too much into the decision. Personally, I like the idea of just a male or a female race. I have always thought the two sexes compliment each other, and are picturesque examples of the "Yin and Yang" in each and every human being.




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#63 Oct 09 2009 at 10:27 AM Rating: Decent
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In the character creation screen there is an issue with being able to select male Miqo'te and female Roegadyn

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Q9: Are there any plans to add female Roegadyn and male Miqo'te?

A: Well, the character model designs are finished... But further details regarding their implementation have yet to be decided.


If everyone bugs them enough maybe we can get this through. Do it, its worth trying.

I'm not going to bug them about something this trivial. If they don't want them in the game, they won't be in the game. It's that simple. There are more important things to report during beta testing.
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#64 Oct 09 2009 at 12:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Kepp in mind this is just my opinion, and nothing I say is based off of any studying other than watching Anime for about 5 years now, but I think the reason you will never see male "Mithra" or female "Galka" is that eastern culture is very different from western. Eastern culture has no problems with the idea of a genderless person, or one who decides to be a different gender than that which they were born. I am not judging these people, or the eastern culture who openly accepts them of western culture who is mixed on the subject. Maybe SE is just not interested in making a social call on the matter and feels this is the best way to not offend the most amount of people. Then again, I could be looking too much into the decision. Personally, I like the idea of just a male or a female race. I have always thought the two sexes compliment each other, and are picturesque examples of the "Yin and Yang" in each and every human being.




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#65 Oct 09 2009 at 6:20 PM Rating: Good
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In fairness, they said it was based only on watching anime, which should be a red flag to anyone that everything following it would be wrong.
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Not all unproductive discourse is trolling. It's just a catfight!
Yeah, its kind of funny how people use terms they don't even fully understand. "ZOMG THEY DISAGREE WITH MY OPINION, IT MUST BE TROLLING!"
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#67 Oct 10 2009 at 11:26 AM Rating: Decent
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I can't believe people are still complaining about not having Male Mithra, and Female Galka. Are you guys really that anxious to play a man cat and girl cow? Face it...it's not going to happen.

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I can't believe people are still complaining about not having Male Mithra, and Female Galka. Are you guys really that anxious to play a man cat and girl cow? Face it...it's not going to happen.

Face it.


If male mithras are choose-able I'm going to be screwed. I will literally have to spend weeks in order to decide if I want to go male or female..
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#69 Oct 10 2009 at 5:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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man cat and girl cow


Cow? Galka= bull?

Imma let you rethink that one.
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Ok, now we're going to get slash fiction of Wint x Kachi somehere... rule 34 and all...

Never confuse your inference as the listener for an implication of the speaker.

Good games are subjective like good food is subjective. You're not going to seriously tell me that there's not a psychological basis for why pizza is great and lutefisk is revolting. The thing about subjectivity is that, as subjects go, humans actually have a great deal in common.
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If male mithras are choose-able I'm going to be screwed. I will literally have to spend weeks in order to decide if I want to go male or female..


I'm sure we have a lot of people on this Forum that wake up in the morning and have trouble deciding what *** they'd like to be that day...
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I might be off base here, but in light of your prior comments that sounds like you're insulting people in this thread by equating them to gender confused people, who you'd presumably be intolerant of.

If so, then frowny face on you.
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Ok, now we're going to get slash fiction of Wint x Kachi somehere... rule 34 and all...

Never confuse your inference as the listener for an implication of the speaker.

Good games are subjective like good food is subjective. You're not going to seriously tell me that there's not a psychological basis for why pizza is great and lutefisk is revolting. The thing about subjectivity is that, as subjects go, humans actually have a great deal in common.
#72 Oct 18 2009 at 8:31 PM Rating: Default
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sirhenrywalton wrote:
In the character creation screen there is an issue with being able to select male Miqo'te and female Roegadyn

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Q9: Are there any plans to add female Roegadyn and male Miqo'te?

A: Well, the character model designs are finished... But further details regarding their implementation have yet to be decided.


If everyone bugs them enough maybe we can get this through. Do it, its worth trying.

I'm not going to bug them about something this trivial. If they don't want them in the game, they won't be in the game. It's that simple. There are more important things to report during beta testing.


People that believe this to be a trivial issue show just how pathetic a chunk of the FFXI fanbase are. In any other MMO you'd have ********** across the boards if the company decided against allowing opposite *** on two races without a REAL, tangible, logical reason. But, too many of you are used to bending over and asking for more, like disgusting dogs to their abusive masters.
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People that believe this to be a trivial issue show just how pathetic a chunk of the FFXI fanbase are. In any other MMO you'd have sh*tstorms across the boards if the company decided against allowing opposite *** on two races without a REAL, tangible, logical reason. But, too many of you are used to bending over and asking for more, like disgusting dogs to their abusive masters.


wow, what a guy...

I'm guessing he plays WoW.

Hey man if them not making gender counterparts of miqo'te and roegadyn will keep you from playing the game then that's just one more reason not to change. With a mouth like that I wouldn't want to play with you anyways.
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People that believe this to be a trivial issue show just how pathetic a chunk of the FFXI fanbase are. In any other MMO you'd have sh*tstorms across the boards if the company decided against allowing opposite *** on two races without a REAL, tangible, logical reason. But, too many of you are used to bending over and asking for more, like disgusting dogs to their abusive masters.


Overreact much?

If anything, it's only a small chunk ex-FFXI players that give a **** about this issue at all.

Edited, Oct 19th 2009 10:02pm by Kirbster
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#75 Oct 20 2009 at 1:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Does anyone actually know the size of the group that are wanting Male and female counterpart of the Miqo'te and Roegadyn ? I think it is bigger than some would believe, I seen alot of forums on the issue and it's not just on the US side. I think if a substantial part of they player base has been asking for it since the release of XI to present with out wavering on the issue to give the "Customer" what they want. I wonder what the official count is on the people who are for the male and female counterparts.
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I don't think anyone cares about this topic anymore. =/
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