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#1 Nov 26 2009 at 9:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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Starting December 14th, SQUARE ENIX MEMBERS will merge with the Square Enix Account system. The move, which also combines logins for some other Japanese-only titles, will finally wrap up Square Enix online services into one neat and tidy area. Also, it will allow them to launch their new online-based currency: Crysta.

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http://ffxiv.zam.com/story.html?story=20705

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The site originally used "Member Coins," but now Crysta will become the new standard for purchasing things from the Members store, such as Avatar clothing, books, CDs and games. Two things make this especially interesting: First is the fact that you can buy in-game currency in Fantasy Earth Zero, and second is the assurance that Crysta will work for "all services linked to your Square Enix Account."

In Fantasy Earth Zero, there are three types of currency -- two available in game, and one obtained via credit card or WebMoney purchase. By standardizing a web-based currency, it seems simple for Square Enix to bring Crysta over to Final Fantasy XIV and avoid many of the headaches experienced in Final Fanatsy XI. It would be great to see Crysta available in the PSN store, purchasable through PayPal on Square Enix's site, or perhaps even Crysta cards at your local video game emporium.

It also opens up the possibility for a lot more control on Square Enix's part. If certain aspects of Final Fantasy XIV were prone to abuse by RMT, they could become available through Crysta, swiftly invalidating the efforts of gil-farmers. However, it's a tricky issue, since while some will surely welcome the elimination of RMT players, others will oppose the idea of paying real money for in-game currency or items.

In Japan, WebMoney is easy to get at any convenience store with some cash and one can be up and running their FFXI character in no time. That's why it's easy to envision Crysta cards showing up at the local 7-11 along with the myriad of other electronic currencies available. Sadly, it may be a pipe dream to hope that such convenience will reach foreign shores. Presently, the transfer to Crysta has only been posted on the Japanese SQUARE ENIX MEMBERS site, but here's hoping they are working out a smoother payment system for their loyal fans overseas as well. For a game that aims to simultaneously launch and manage customers in multiple regions of the world, it would certainly benefit both players and Square Enix to have a single, unifying currency.

Thanks to Corinth for the initial writeup at JP Button


Well, well, well, so SE can potentially turn FFXIV into a game where we can purchase in game items with real money through the use of Crysta?

All I can say is if that's the case, I won't be playing FFXIV. I abhorr RMT in FFXI or any other MMO and it would be even worse to RMT directly with SE.
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It also opens up the possibility for a lot more control on Square Enix's part. If certain aspects of Final Fantasy XIV were prone to abuse by RMT, they could become available through Crysta, swiftly invalidating the efforts of gil-farmers. However, it's a tricky issue, since while some will surely welcome the elimination of RMT players, others will oppose the idea of paying real money for in-game currency or items.


So Gil is still the main currency but, Crysta is a online-bought secondary option to void gil-farmer tactics. Not the main purpose but a branch xD nice.

Im glad their not being oblivious and saying there will be no RMT but i hope im not the only one that forsee's a problem here. Basically what there saying in that last sentence is "What ever RMT decide to Monopolize if it becomes a major issue instead of making it Rare/EX, We can make it available through and online currency"

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The site originally used "Member Coins," but now Crysta will become the new standard for purchasing things from the Members store, such as Avatar clothing, books, CDs and games. Two things make this especially interesting: First is the fact that you can buy in-game currency in Fantasy Earth Zero, and second is the assurance that Crysta will work for "all services linked to your Square Enix Account."

In Fantasy Earth Zero, there are three types of currency -- two available in game, and one obtained via credit card or WebMoney purchase. By standardizing a web-based currency, it seems simple for Square Enix to bring Crysta over to Final Fantasy XIV and avoid many of the headaches experienced in Final Fanatsy XI. It would be great to see Crysta available in the PSN store, purchasable through PayPal on Square Enix's site, or perhaps even Crysta cards at your local video game emporium.

It also opens up the possibility for a lot more control on Square Enix's part. If certain aspects of Final Fantasy XIV were prone to abuse by RMT, they could become available through Crysta, swiftly invalidating the efforts of gil-farmers. However, it's a tricky issue, since while some will surely welcome the elimination of RMT players, others will oppose the idea of paying real money for in-game currency or items.

In Japan, WebMoney is easy to get at any convenience store with some cash and one can be up and running their FFXI character in no time. That's why it's easy to envision Crysta cards showing up at the local 7-11 along with the myriad of other electronic currencies available. Sadly, it may be a pipe dream to hope that such convenience will reach foreign shores. Presently, the transfer to Crysta has only been posted on the Japanese SQUARE ENIX MEMBERS site, but here's hoping they are working out a smoother payment system for their loyal fans overseas as well. For a game that aims to simultaneously launch and manage customers in multiple regions of the world, it would certainly benefit both players and Square Enix to have a single, unifying currency.

Thanks to Corinth for the initial writeup at JP Button


Well, well, well, so SE can potentially turn FFXIV into a game where we can purchase in game items with real money through the use of Crysta?

All I can say is if that's the case, I won't be playing FFXIV. I abhorr RMT in FFXI or any other MMO and it would be even worse to RMT directly with SE.


You say that now, but i HOPE S/E is smart enough to not allow things that give players a significant advantage over other players. I hope its just pretty petty things like they mentioned avatar clothing. God please don't let this destroy this game.

the funny things is we both will still play regardless of what they do LOL

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It does open up the possibility for "official" RMT but I look at it more of a TOS thing that allows them to pursue greater penalty for those that try to gain money off a game when real transaction is already set up. They don't even need to have it availible in the game but by virtue of the 'currency' existing they can pursue charges for people who break to the TOS for stealing or profiting off the company without permission, or even say that the virtual items have actual property rights for people who steal other peoples accounts if they ever go to court against certain groups.

This new "points" system is also a good way for SE to handle monthly fees in that you just simply allocate a certain amount of money wired to "Crysta" for the monthly fee, and than not adding enough money in the account makes it shut off your account and makes it harder for people who steal credit cards to abuse the payment system. This way you don't need to cancel your account to stop them from constantly charging you. You just let your account bank run out and it shuts off.
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I hope your right. This isn't looking too good if the actually try to charge people for game items.
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well if i have to pay for the game, pay the monthly fees to play the game, AND pay for in-game items, to that i say f*** that and i will not buy the game. it will be hard enuf on the wallet keepn up with the fees to play it let alone the rest of my bills...
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Yep. One of the few things that could actually stop me from playing FFXIV is that dishonest, false, backstabbing way of pushing customers to pay more and more every month for in-game supplementary stuff to keep up with their friends.
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well if i have to pay for the game, pay the monthly fees to play the game, AND pay for in-game items, to that i say f*** that and i will not buy the game. it will be hard enuf on the wallet keepn up with the fees to play it let alone the rest of my bills...


You won't NEED to pay for ingame items. It's mostly for cosmetic stuff, and probably some temporary buffs that increase experience or skill gains or such.
Since SE doesn't need to rely on a game shop for their income like a 'free' MMO, they don't have to give bought equipment any boosts over normal trash-dropped/crafted equipment. You could buy your character a unique hairstyle/color for christmas, for instance, but not that Excalibur+1.
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If you pay, for example $15 a month, and are a loyal customer that subscribes year round, that adds up to $180 a year. It's almost ridiculous, and should be more than enough money to be able to experience any content that they develop. That isn't even considering the original cost of the game + future expansions, of which there are likely to be several. Charging people more for special treats and items is ridiculous to the point of being despicable. I hope SE stays far away from this business model. I believe that any extra money they will make will be negated by the number of people unsubscribing because of it.

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well if i have to pay for the game, pay the monthly fees to play the game, AND pay for in-game items, to that i say f*** that and i will not buy the game. it will be hard enuf on the wallet keepn up with the fees to play it let alone the rest of my bills...


You won't NEED to pay for ingame items. It's mostly for cosmetic stuff, and probably some temporary buffs that increase experience or skill gains or such.
Since SE doesn't need to rely on a game shop for their income like a 'free' MMO, they don't have to give bought equipment any boosts over normal trash-dropped/crafted equipment. You could buy your character a unique hairstyle/color for christmas, for instance, but not that Excalibur+1.


Uh no, like the above poster said 15$ a month should give all the in game services. ***** that "you pay more money for stuff we should have already given you" service that is around everywhere in games nowadays. This is why I hate many Xbox360 and PS3 games cause they do that crap a lot, some companies more than others (looking at you Bioware and Lionhead). Anyways i'm sure as well they will pull some crap where you'll pay 5$ for a pair of shoes that enhance your speed as some exclusive holiday special then it will expand to a point where a character with bought crap will be given a noticeable advantage to a character who doesn't. Remember people this is Square Enix Online team.

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****, guess I shouldn't be waiting for this game to come out afterall. Guess I'll be looking into another MMO because I'll be damned if I pay for something in game.
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This thread has just made me very uncomfortable about the future of FFXIV.

I don't know what to think yet.
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This could just mean that you can use Crysta to pay for your monthly subscription, but who knows...
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Oh man! I swear SE said no micro-transactions. I hope this isn't implemented in FFXIV. Buying gil is buying gil. And is a great way to **** on hardworking players. Don't lie to us SE. And I agree paying a monthly and micro's is... words can't describe. Thanks for killing my hopes and dreams for FFXIV SE.

Until we get an official response I pretty much lost all interest.
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If they're smart, they'll allow micro transactions for some servers and others will not have them. This way both crowds of people will be pleased.
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http://ffxiv.zam.com/story.html?story=20705

Well, well, well, so SE can potentially turn FFXIV into a game where we can purchase in game items with real money through the use of Crysta?

All I can say is if that's the case, I won't be playing FFXIV. I abhorr RMT in FFXI or any other MMO and it would be even worse to RMT directly with SE.


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This has me paranoid, however I could swear that I heard and interview a while back with one of the top dogs working on FFXIV and he was saying that SE was going to try and avoid letting players purchase in-game items with real money.

He said that he feared that players would buy their way to having the best gear, and since players didn't have to work hard to their gear, they would lost interest in the game and quit.

Am I crazy? Does anyone else remember hearing this?
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Yeah, they specifically said no micro transactions. I'm pretty sure this just means you'll be able to use crysta to pay for the monthly subscriptions. I don't know why everyone jumped to the micro transaction conclusion. They only said one of their games allows it.
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This has me paranoid, however I could swear that I heard and interview a while back with one of the top dogs working on FFXIV and he was saying that SE was going to try and avoid letting players purchase in-game items with real money.

He said that he feared that players would buy their way to having the best gear, and since players didn't have to work hard to their gear, they would lost interest in the game and quit.

Am I crazy? Does anyone else remember hearing this?

I remember that interview too, but as we've seen with many other things, what they say and what they do are often two different things..

All it takes is for them to feel they'd make more money doing it.. Do realize in their answer, the only reason they gave for not wanting to do it was losing players. Not any kind of moral dilemma. . .

"Probably not, no, because we'd lose too many subscribers" is how I took it, not "No, that kind of thing does not have a place in a FF game."

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I have only come across one game with micro payment options that I actualy aproved of. DDO lets you play for free or pay a standard monthly fee, those that pay get full access to everything and those that don't can still work thier way through the game and eventualy get all the same benifits for considerably more work or actualy pay for access to some of the premium stuff.

Don't get me wrong though I don't suport the idea of buying stuff for an MMO with real money in any incarnation, but at least if it's just fluff and vanity stuff the game doesn't feel pointless.


On the topic of buying online comiunity curreny in local stores, we're seeing quite a bit of that here in western washington state. There are 4 stores I can think of off the top of my head within the hicktown I live in that have stands filled with online game currency cards.
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Well, let's not get too worried just yet.

SE might just be trying to homogenize the pay-structure across all of their games. It seems sensible to streamline all instances of customer payment to the company into one single metric.

Here in the West we're really big fans of monthly subscriptions. But Eastern folks tend to pay-by-the-hour, using pre-paid convenience store cards that have a certain amount of time allotted. Homogenizing the Game Cards into Crysta would help accomplish something Tanaka said was one of his goals; allowing people to swap easily between XIV and XI. Because if you have time left on your XI gamecard, but no time on your XIV gamecard; your stuck with playing XI. But if you have x amount of Crysta left, which can be redeemed for time in either game, you can play whichever you want.


While Fantasy Earth Zero was created by Square-Enix, they passed the publishing rights to Gamepot.
It was originally intended to be a subscription-based model. Supposedly, it was Gamepot who turned it into a Free-to-Play MMO and started the in-game currency. While this is not a guarantee they won't do legal RMT, it does mean there isn't much in the way of precedence for it.





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Paying for in game items?
No
**** no
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F**K NO!!!!!

I'm just going to hope and pray that this is not going to happen.

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Wow some people are paranoid >_> they said they don't intend to put out microtransactions for FFXIV, and even if they did it would be fluff items or items that would either have the 'free' equivalent or was sub par so that you didn't actually need to buy anything as long as your worked hard in game. The latest interview from Wada of SE clearly puts this 'currency' into perspective. They are trying to set up a centralized currency system for ALL products and not just FFXIV, so they work towards having the infastructures for a Digital Distribution only future (as he puts it) in the coming decade.
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This thread has just made me very uncomfortable about the future of FFXIV.

I don't know what to think yet.


Umm, why? I don't really know why Elmer mentioned official RMT in his article.

If anything, this digital "Crysta" currency would be used to purchase time for FFXIV rather than a standard/automated billing system.
Other than that, I don't see how this could affect FFXIV.

SE has already said that it will be subscription-based... I highly doubt you will see any in-game premium stores so people can "pay to win" or anything, if that's what you're worried about. F2P MMOs do that so they can stay afloat.
The worst we'll see is paying for name changes (which SHOULD be allowed, changing your name in FFXI is such a hassle), server changes, gender change/character makeover.
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I honestly did not fully understand the description of this. Kind of sounded like it's just a way to pay your account fee, and kind of sounded like RMT. Honestly, I hope it's neither, it just seems like a big ******* headache either way.
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It sounds like another unnecessary and painful middle man system like how you had to have playonline to log into FFXI. I can't see them making us convert real money into crysta to pay our subscriptions unless they were planning on eventually adding other FFXIV in-game items available for purchase with crysta. They're making it so we have one foot in the door for RMT.
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Bear in mind that as the articles states, Crysta is only announced for Japan so far, and the applications of Crysta are not specifically set.

The point is the Members Coins now have a lot of uses: You can buy Avatar clothing, books/CDs/games, and even currency in one of their MMOs. Now SE is merging all their services to one place and using Crysta for all of them. There are a lot of possibilities here as Square Enix builds upon its online division, but we don't know yet.
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Thought I'd copy this over too:

Member Coins were only for the Square Enix Members site. Now they are set to merge all services under Square Enix Accounts, which will then use Crysta. Here are the two main points from the announcement:

"The Square Enix Account is an account used across all of Square Enix's online services. Anyone can register one for free. Future services, as well as existing ones, can all be combined into a single account and managed under the Square Enix Account system."

"Square Enix Crysta can be used to pay for all services supported by your Square Enix Account. By purchasing Crysta (by credit card or other means) via the Square Enix Account management system, you can pay for services that utilize your Square Enix Account."

Right now with Member Coins, "services" include a both store-bought products and in-game services.
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Almost everyone is jumping to conclusions. On top of that, even if they did allow something like this, I can assure you it wouldn't be anything more than novelty items. Random clothes, or a hat, with no stats. In a game where you pay a monthly fee, you'd cheat a lot of people if they allowed you to buy actual gear/currency.
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Almost everyone is jumping to conclusions. On top of that, even if they did allow something like this, I can assure you it wouldn't be anything more than novelty items. Random clothes, or a hat, with no stats. In a game where you pay a monthly fee, you'd cheat a lot of people if they allowed you to buy actual gear/currency.


This sounds most logical. Novelty items or festival things, not main party gear.
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Almost everyone is jumping to conclusions. On top of that, even if they did allow something like this, I can assure you it wouldn't be anything more than novelty items. Random clothes, or a hat, with no stats. In a game where you pay a monthly fee, you'd cheat a lot of people if they allowed you to buy actual gear/currency.


I don't know why having just cosmetic items makes it OK. I mean it's not as bad as having real items, but that feature should be included for everyone to use simply for having paid the monthly fee IMO.

At first p2p was unheard of, and it turned down a lot of people. Now we're edging to a point where monthly fee isn't even enough to cover all the services and items the game provides? Will I have to pay GM fees next?
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Well, I'd like to seen Crysta in FFXI since it'd be easier then camping something for 3 days and not get a drop, but I doubt XIV will need it. I imagine it'll be for things like name change, race change, etc. Name a BIG mmo where you can buy some of the hardest to get crap with web money though. Only one that comes close is ragnorok online.

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Well, well, well, so SE can potentially turn FFXIV into a game where we can purchase in game items with real money through the use of Crysta?

All I can say is if that's the case, I won't be playing FFXIV. I abhorr RMT in FFXI or any other MMO and it would be even worse to RMT directly with SE.
I see it more along the lines of what Blizzard does. They sell plenty of purely cosmetic items through their site. Nothing wrong with that.



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I don't know why having just cosmetic items makes it OK. I mean it's not as bad as having real items, but that feature should be included for everyone to use simply for having paid the monthly fee IMO.

At first p2p was unheard of, and it turned down a lot of people. Now we're edging to a point where monthly fee isn't even enough to cover all the services and items the game provides? Will I have to pay GM fees next?


Please don't put words in my mouth. No where in my post did I say it would be okay. To be honest, I don't want to be able to purchase things via crysta for my in-game character.

All I said, was at worst, it would be items that are merely cosmetic.

People are jumping to conclusions over a system that might not be used for FFXIV, and if it is, most likely just for the purchase of game time. If for some reason SE doesn't sell gamecards, this is a bonus for players who don't want to have SE taking $15 out of their account monthly, and just pay as they go.

More information needs to be released for us to draw a conclusion.

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#37Rawkuss, Posted: Nov 29 2009 at 9:37 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) It's a game. If ppl want to buy gil and items to enjoy their game why do ppl care? I never could understand that. Not everyone has the time to grind like some of us do. I can't seem to get past the whole "using real money to obtain fake money" thing or else I'd prolly do it too. But I can see why some ppl do it. Most of the FF community pressures others to obtain top gear or they get looked down on. That sucks because not everyone has that kind of time. SE said that this game is targeted towards casual gamers as well as the hard-core so I'd support this move
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I'm pretty sure I remember that in an interview with the devs, they stated that they were adamantly against RMT, official or otherwise.


Let's not all get bent out of shape until, you know, we actually see how it's used.

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Then what would be the point of putting in a middle man and having players convert currency instead of subscribing directly? Thinking that this isn't a step in the direction of RMT is plain naivety.
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Then what would be the point of putting in a middle man and having players convert currency instead of subscribing directly? Thinking that this isn't a step in the direction of RMT is plain naivety.


Some people are really paranoid about monthly subscriptions. I have a friend who played WoW, and would not add his credit card. He bought gamecards, instead. Adding the "middle man," so to speak, would allow players the option of avoiding the monthly subscription, and not having to worry about picking up gamecards when their time is gonna run out, soon. I have the option to pay my phone bill online automatically every month, but I choose not to do so. I do it myself, when I feel its necessary. It would just give players yet another option of paying for the game. I don't see how it being an option is a bad thing.

This isn't necessarily a step in the direction of RMT. This crysta is going to be used for any SE game/product that supports it. FFXIV might not even use it. At this point, you're worrying over nothing. We simply don't have enough information. It's like claiming the sky is falling, when we can't see it through the roof, to check for ourselves. It's all speculation at this point, and nothing worth getting worked up over.

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Well, well, well, so SE can potentially turn FFXIV into a game where we can purchase in game items with real money through the use of Crysta?


It seems like this has been occuring already in FFXI, just not as blatantly.

Consider the mini expansions recently released. Did people really buy those expansions for their "plot"? The plots of those expansions were widely regarded as subpar, but people continued to purchase them anyway since, admittedly, there was some great gear that could be unlocked from it. The gear wasn't handed to you on a platter, but it was made clear that the gear was only available to those who spent the money on the expansion. We were even told that if we bought all three we would get the extra back piece to go with it.

I'm not saying that everyone only bought the expansions for the gear. The point is that it is a form of real money = exclusive item.

Hopefully Crysta won't end up working this way. SE should know better. They stand to lose a lot of players.
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You won't NEED to pay for ingame items. It's mostly for cosmetic stuff, and probably some temporary buffs that increase experience or skill gains or such.
Since SE doesn't need to rely on a game shop for their income like a 'free' MMO, they don't have to give bought equipment any boosts over normal trash-dropped/crafted equipment. You could buy your character a unique hairstyle/color for christmas, for instance, but not that Excalibur+1.


I agree, I think it's going to be mostly cosmetic stuff. I can't see them any items out that will give an advantage over someone else. A lot of free mmo's do this to rake in money using microtransactions. Think the best thing to do is just wait for more info before anyone freaks out.

Crysta hmm... Terranigma =P
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If this is anything like most MMO "cash shops", then it should be mostly cosmetic things, or something like WoW's paid race change/character recustomization and (recently) vanity pets. Perhaps consumable items to give minor xp bonuses, and the like. Nothing too gamebreaking, I'm sure.

Although having a cash shop at all in a pay-to-play MMO is pretty stupid. I know in games like MapleStory which is free to play there are tons of items from cosmetic to actual gear + weapons, but the idea is that you don't have to pay for the game itself.

If we got stuck with a regular subscription fee and the game's best gear was available for real money purchase, I wouldn't be too excited about playing FFXIV.

EDIT: I do have to commend them though for being able to pay for subscriptions with Crysta. This will make the credit card BS in FFXI a thing of the past for FFXIV.

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I have no strong opinion against having a kind of 'Cash Shop' so long as most things can still be bought with the in game currency too and its mostly cosmetic stuff.

What I don't want to see is costumes, being sold only for real money, the kind of costumes that could come from an 'event'. And since I will be paying for the game regularly in order to play, I expect the currency to be VERY cheap.

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So what if they got rid of the monthly subscription and made it free to play but made it an option to where players could use the cash shop to buy the same gear you could still get in the game? Considering how big FFXIV could possibly be; it's quite likely that Square Enix would make way more money by making the game free like Guild Wars just with an added Cash Shop for those that have money to throw at the company. It's not like you're giving it to RMT or a bad company. This Crysta only will work if the monthly subscription fee is dropped OR they make all hard to obtain items more obtainable. IE pop items to pop all NMs and make the drops 100%. But that would obviously take away from the rarity of a lot of piece of gears. There is so much to debate on this system but I don't have time to explain every point to argue for or against this. It is possible to have a cash shop in a MMO and have it be fair to paying players and subscription players. I used to be against this business model but if done right it could actually be okay in the end. It all depends on SE at this point. That's my 2 gil.

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#47 Dec 01 2009 at 10:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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This Crysta only will work if the monthly subscription fee is dropped OR they make all hard to obtain items more obtainable.


Or they could just not use it for FFXIV. Or just for paying for subscriptions.
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I'm hoping that Crysta can only be used to purchase none game breaking, unique, ingame novelty items, much like the Tidal Talisman, and Mog Satchel in FFXI (Two bonus in-game items, that were only given to players who had purchased a real Talisman or Security Token from SE's online store).

If however the crysta turns out to be some form of official RMT, where it can be exchanged for gil (I know a few MMORPGs offer official RMT services in this manner), or other high end equipment then I'm going to be more than a little dissapointed.

In my experiences of other games, it breaks the game balance, and tips scales in favour of the spoilt rich kids, I've never managed to stick with a MMORPG that endorses RMT for more than a few weeks for that reason, it just puts me off.

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Oh, that's good. Now when RMT start keylogging they'll also get credit card information.
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Microtransactions...a step closer to casual gaming.
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Oh, that's good. Now when RMT start keylogging they'll also get credit card information.

Implying it never happened/started in FFXI.
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