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#1 Dec 15 2009 at 7:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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There is a picture circulating the Internet that apparently shows a portion of the "campaign code" slip that comes with early copies of Final Fantasy XIII. From the parts that can be read, it seems to indicate that the code will grant a "secret item" as well as be involved in gaining access to upcoming beta tests.

Besides the fact that parts are cropped and blurry, there is not enough information to say anything is certain at this point. Final Fantasy XIII will hit stores on Thursday, December 17th, so everything will come to light soon.

Here's the picture
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#2 Dec 15 2009 at 8:23 AM Rating: Decent
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good post as always Elmer

im sure someone will try that code in FFXIV haha

but anywayz, SE better release some more info after Thursday, which FFXIII hits the store...
I give SE a deadline of Christmas!!!
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#3 Dec 15 2009 at 9:01 AM Rating: Decent
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You forgot to mention that the secret item seems to be available only within the Japanese version (。。。シクテットアイテッムの入手は日本国内向けにご販売される「ファイナル。。。)

Good for some, bad for many.

Edited, Dec 15th 2009 10:06am by Rinsui
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I thought FFXIII didn't come out until 3/9/2010 ? Did I miss something ? I'm assuming it's the Japanese release. This is so exciting ! Is there a official statement saying the code will only be exclusive for the japanese version ? You would think they would put the code in various versions . I mean they plan on doing a world wide release , why wouldn't they do they same with the codes ? Thanks again Elmer ! This made my day!

@ Mostaru LOL Can you blame them , and I agree . S.E better release some info!


Edited, Dec 15th 2009 8:21am by Ruam
#5 Dec 15 2009 at 10:35 AM Rating: Decent
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The FFXIV beta will probably start after the 3/9/10 FFXIII release so everyone will have a code (Wishful thinking anyway).
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#6 Dec 15 2009 at 12:20 PM Rating: Good
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Is this a Japanese only thing? If it is, and includes not only a special in game type item, but an early beta code, it's kind of a slap in the face to all the non-Japanese people, and I thought square enix was pushing hard for the whole worldwide equality thing this time around...
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#7Skeptic, Posted: Dec 15 2009 at 12:51 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) But it's ok for us to have a US Beta and ***** the Japanese...right? It's just a returned "favor".
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If this is a Beta thing that means they will probaly put something like it in the US version of FF13, which would mean Beta for 14 would start around May (After the FF13 Hype has died down) which would mean that if they want a 6 month Beta FF14 will not be released until around Nov 2010.

That means FF14 is more than likely is still almost a year away.

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#9 Dec 15 2009 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
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This is a little off topic, but since people have been bringing up how much of a slap in the face it would be for SE to give the Japanese FFXIII buyers early beta keys, I'd like to mention that it has been stated before that, as balanced as SE may want to make the world-wide release, a multi-regional beta would be extremely taxing on SE for very little gain, at least in the initial stages of the beta. Most of the programming, is, after all, being done in Japan; having to deal with a language barrier in early-stage beta would be problematic. I would not put it past SE to try a world-wide beta right off the bat, but I think we should prepare ourselves mentally for the possibility that at least the first stage of beta testing will be in Japan only. It's just good programming practice to have everyone working in the same language at first, then work on regionalization.

SE representatives have also told us point blank that rather than a full blown beta, FFXIV will be tested in small modules, then slowly compiled into a full beta. It's not too much of a stretch to imagine that the early, smallest modules will be in Japanese first, then as they expand, add in other regions.

I am just saying that even if the campaign code contains beta information, and even if it is only in Japan, it's not necessarily a bad thing. Releasing the beta world-wide would probably just slow the testing process down significantly. We'll get our shot at the beta eventually either way; sometime soon they'll have to test the English regional version.
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They haven't decided if they are going to include the "campaign code" in NA/EU release of FFXIII yet, but I'm sure they will.
Not sure if it will include beta access like the JP one possibly does (we'll know in a few days for sure) but definitely the ingame item.

http://support.na.square-enix.com/faqarticle.php?kid=50613&ret=main&id=902&la=1&pv=20&SQEXSC=e8ovat7idkudprgqageje8an74
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#11 Dec 15 2009 at 5:52 PM Rating: Decent
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This is a little off topic, but since people have been bringing up how much of a slap in the face it would be for SE to give the Japanese FFXIII buyers early beta keys, I'd like to mention that it has been stated before that, as balanced as SE may want to make the world-wide release, a multi-regional beta would be extremely taxing on SE for very little gain, at least in the initial stages of the beta. Most of the programming, is, after all, being done in Japan; having to deal with a language barrier in early-stage beta would be problematic. I would not put it past SE to try a world-wide beta right off the bat, but I think we should prepare ourselves mentally for the possibility that at least the first stage of beta testing will be in Japan only. It's just good programming practice to have everyone working in the same language at first, then work on regionalization.

SE representatives have also told us point blank that rather than a full blown beta, FFXIV will be tested in small modules, then slowly compiled into a full beta. It's not too much of a stretch to imagine that the early, smallest modules will be in Japanese first, then as they expand, add in other regions.

I am just saying that even if the campaign code contains beta information, and even if it is only in Japan, it's not necessarily a bad thing. Releasing the beta world-wide would probably just slow the testing process down significantly. We'll get our shot at the beta eventually either way; sometime soon they'll have to test the English regional version.


I have been saying this for a while. I know people 'really' want to try out FFXIV but testing would be much better if most were testers in the native language of the actual developers. The only bonus to having multiple region early beta tests is they might beable to test how responsive their translator'a are in giving them updates on different region opinions.

Having said that, however, I think we can expect beta testing to show up for FFXIV some where down the line for the NA and EU regions at or before FFXIII's march release. How they go about doing that is unclear but you can bet we won't be left out of the crowd, we just might not be first to try it out. And thats fine really. Early betas are hardly ever very fun anyways and we would likely get all the info we want from the JP beta testers we could ever want to begin with. I remember when FFXI was in beta testing for the JP release and how fun it was to hear english players playing the JP beta client and their opinion of the process.
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SE representatives have also told us point blank that rather than a full blown beta, FFXIV will be tested in small modules, then slowly compiled into a full beta. It's not too much of a stretch to imagine that the early, smallest modules will be in Japanese first, then as they expand, add in other regions.


And that's fine to a degree. But, SE has been making it more and more clear that they want Non-JP players to have the same benefits as JP players.

They have just stated this over and over again. I FINALLY thought they were getting the idea: The world is a much bigger place than Japan, and they should start giving everyone a "fair shot" at content. They were FINALLY coming around to the idea of a worldwide game as opposed to a game which was released in japan and then as an afterthought was released elsewhere.

Pulling stunts like this only goes to further the belief that SE hasn't really learned anything. They'll pay us all the lip service in the world, but when it comes done to making sure we have all the same thing as JP players, they don't even attempt to try. Its looking like FFXI all over again.

I'm really REALLY tired of the constant untruths SE pumps out. This is just the latest example. I had hoped they would have gotten a better customer service department by now. A better PR department too. It just seem this is the same old SE. I put up with way to much crap from them for FFXI. I won't be putting up with it in FF14.
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#13 Dec 15 2009 at 9:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yes, like Famitsu reported, the Campaign Code is only for Japan. However, it was never confirmed whether this means it only comes in JP FFXIII copies, or if its use will actually be restricted to JP accounts.
Of course, there is also no indication as to whether other regions will be getting their own Campaign Codes when Final Fantasy XIII releases in the US or EU.

It's all part of their new corporate campaign:
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#14 Dec 15 2009 at 9:25 PM Rating: Good
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To be fair, having the first presentation of FFXIV in Amerika and the first (and only) chance to play the alpha in Germany (lucky me) ****** of quite a few Japanese fans as well.
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If you feel like your not getting a chance to get your voice heard in favor of the JP players, I wouldn't worry too much about that.

It used to be that MMO companies would invite a small amount of testers from the public to help get feedback before releasing. However, games were being judged in that unfinished state and word would make it's way through the grapevine; often to the detriment of the MMO's release. Eventually Marketing caught onto this, and decided that Beta's powers should be used for good instead of evil. The Betas the public are aware of are really highly-polished products nearing release that are using the premise of 'beta testing' to generate hype.

Even if they do get to romp around servers earlier, JP players won't have any more say than you do, because the Betas the public can access don't really work like that anymore.

The feedback you give during Beta testing are things that are considered for the first content patch, using whatever system the company has in place for implementing bugs/glitches/suggestions for the post-release product. So, it's still worth providing feedback, if only to see how much SE's customer service has (or hasn't) grown. But the days when people could rally and get an Auction House implemented during beta testing for release is long gone*.



http://www.massively.com/2009/11/30/developer-round-table-mmo-betas/

*(not to imply you still don't have the power to rally and get an Auciton House implemented after. Just saying you'll have more than enough opportunity to get you two cents in before SE will act on anything the JP say.)

Edited, Dec 15th 2009 10:45pm by Zemzelette
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Yeah, I understand. SE has perhaps attempted to improve things. I'm not saying that they haven't, I'm just saying stunts like this show that they have a LOT further to go. Its just one more slap in the face by SE. And a lot of people are tired of the lip service they keep giving us, but then getting no (or very minimal) change.

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Even if they do get to romp around servers earlier, JP players won't have any more say than you do, because the Betas the public can access don't really work like that anymore.


Its not so much that I care about influencing the game. I'm actually NOT going to play in the beta because I like to get into games "fresh" without much prior knowledge.

Its not so much that I care about the beta, its the fact that SE is still doing the same old thing, over and over again. If they came out and said, "Yes, we're trying to make everything more equal BUT, for the first beta we're doing it in Japan because of X, Y and Z," I'd be ok with that.

The problem is that they keep saying one thing and then doing another. And we get no communication from them about this stuff. They need to either start doing what they say they're going to do, or, at the very very least give some reasoning behind why they aren't/can't do it.

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#17 Dec 15 2009 at 9:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Ahhh. I see.
My bad.

Yeah, I agree. I can't stand the Asian penchant for closed communication styles. If they're really interested in the global market they'd learn to be Chatty Kathys, if only just to us.



Edited, Dec 15th 2009 10:52pm by Zemzelette
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I really hope that the Japanese version of FFXIII has Beta keys. It would mean that the first stages of the Beta would be Japanese only but we'll get alot of information about FFXIV during that time. Eventually everyone around the world will get into the good testing so it would really be a win-win situation in more ways than one. We'll most likely see the finished product anywhere from June-September of 2010 depending on when it actually starts.




Edited, Dec 16th 2009 4:01am by KeeperOfTheStaff
#19 Dec 16 2009 at 12:06 AM Rating: Decent
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As far as I know it hasn't been said anywhere that beta would open simultaniously world wide. They didn't say beta would be equal. They said release would be equal. As in the release late next year when you can actually go to the store, pick up your copy, sign in, and create your permanent character.

What they have said about beta is that it will begin on PC only, possibly branching to the Ps3 later, it will start in small groups with small time windows, and slowly get bigger and longer.

They didn't say that beta would not be JP only so it's not really their fault that we all assumed and/or misunderstood what they've been telling us. Not that what they've been telling us amounts to much. So I don't know if the "slap in the face" is them slapping us or us slapping ourselves. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. I really don't think they're trying to fool anyone though.

They definitely need to work on communication. Considering that they're just recently trying to be equal world wide though I'm not surprised. Things like this take time. Equality is very slow moving. Baby steps.
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I wonder if the reason there is no hints at a Campaign Code for none-JP versions of XIII is because the beta test for XIV is scheduled to kick off before none-JP XIII release dates?

I agree though, for a company that has stated it is attempting to outreach to none-JP markets this is a pretty poor way of doing things.
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#21 Dec 16 2009 at 1:16 AM Rating: Good
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How about... S.E. clearing somethings up, Provide some freaking Info so we all can get on the same page?
#22 Dec 16 2009 at 3:23 AM Rating: Decent
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Btw, Elmer, this site has the full set of pictures (3 in total, one uncropped). Perhaps you can upload them somewhere.

http://www.ff14fan.com/
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croythegreat wrote:

I have been saying this for a while. I know people 'really' want to try out FFXIV but testing would be much better if most were testers in the native language of the actual developers. The only bonus to having multiple region early beta tests is they might beable to test how responsive their translator'a are in giving them updates on different region opinions.


I think if SE learned anything from WoW, it's how to make a product that's universally appealing to all regions. I want to Beta test FFXIV to help the designers mold the game with a NA perspective. Like it or not, FFXI receives no press because of the way the game was designed. The typically JPRPG that rapes your *** and locks you inside the house all week just to do anything. It's hard to start from scratch, tough to earn gil(compared to other MMO games), requires at least 6 people to do almost everything and so forth. So far, FFXIV might look like the next gen version of FFXI's graphics, yet you can tell much more work has gone into making the game more user friendly. I hope to God you don't need Wiki to do your standard quests. If you really want my assessment of FFXIV, it's being dumbed down(like some previous FF titles) to be more user friendly. I seriously doubt SE is making FFXIV expecting to hover around 2mil subscribers after the first year.
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I thought i saw an interview somewhere where they said japan would be getting a demo real soon. Maybe this is it.
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Seeing the new pictures at http://www.ff14fan.com/ Rinsui linked, the Campaign Code ticket looks pretty legit. It will be used with a Playstation 3 version of the Final Fantasy XIV beta. I'll wait till tomorrow morning when I can do a full un-boxing to see if there's anything else. Just gotta find my FFXIII pre-order slip....
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#26 Dec 16 2009 at 8:24 AM Rating: Decent
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so Elmer, what does it say?
i thought the code just gives u an in-game item, now it's gonna be beta??

Edited, Dec 16th 2009 10:01am by Mostaru
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#27 Dec 16 2009 at 8:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, the original SE statement just talked about an item, no word from a beta. That's not Elmer's fault ^.^/. Just bash Mister Wada.
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I'm more and more confident they will have more info after midnight!!
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You know guys, the thought just occurred to me... This might be a FFXIV beta key, but I don't see them giving out beta access to the "general public" before they do so to FFXI veterans, whether they be Japanese, English, or any other language. Perhaps these "beta keys" will only be able to be used to gain access to the very last stages of beta, when they are working with the big numbers and doing stress tests and what not.

Nothing says these beta keys will work instantly as soon as they come out, there will most likely be restrictions. It just doesn't make since when you add it all up, so keep all that in mind. I'm pretty sure Square Enix is going to have FFXI Veterans in the first beta stages instead of just random people who bought a video game, who may have never even played a Final Fantasy or a MMORPG game before.

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Why is it hard to believe that they would go after new audiences or fans of the single player games before the FFXI community?
Our numbers are dwindling, and SE already knows they have us by the balls
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So the Beta info is up on the SE website, it looks like the Beta key or whatever inside of FFXIII will be for when the confirmed PS3 Beta begins.





Edited, Dec 16th 2009 5:29pm by KeeperOfTheStaff
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Agreed. Now I'm a FFXI veteran myself, but it would be pretty stupid to have a bunch of MMORPG addicts to be your only beta testers. Especially with the new casual approach. I can already see them sorting out all those who stated they could play more than 72+ hours a week, and having played XI for the past 8 years... "thanks guys, we already got 20.000 of that type..." ^.^/
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