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#1 Dec 17 2009 at 9:34 AM Rating: Default
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Despite Tanaka already explicitly stating he couldn't care less about WoW and it's user base, Wada has once again opened his big mouth on the game he clearly knows nothing about and claimed it will "beat World of Warcraft". This man is really starting to **** me off lately

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Square Enix president outlines move to outplay Blizzard’s dominant MMO

Square Enix is positioning Final Fantasy XIV as a serious rival to Blizzard’s World of Warcraft series, company president Yoichi Wada has revealed.

In an interview with Develop, Wada disclosed the full extent of Square Enix’s ambitions for the upcoming Final Fantasy MMO, and indicated that Blizzard’s need to – eventually – build a full World of Warcraft sequel could be a real test for the studio.

“WoW is a tough competitor, but whether you are talking about EverQuest, Ultima or Lineage there has never been a company that has a continuously successful number one and two MMO,” he said, speaking of that transition to a full sequel.

Asked if he thought Final Fantasy XIV was a serious rival to World of Warcraft’s throne, Wada said “yes, but the flipside is that they are a tough competition.”

With the MMO set for release on PC and PS3, Wada touched on the impact the Final Fantasy brand will have on consumer choice.
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“We believe there is a number of people that will stay attached to each title, but we are optimistic in that sense for Final Fantasy,” he said.

Wada went on to outline the subscription and microtransaction models that FFXIV will employ, adding the company is looking to improve on the Final Fantasy XI system.

“The basic model hasn't changed,” he said. “It's a monthly flat rate service with additional charges for items that users want to buy.

“For FFXI we didn't initially set up the item transaction model that well – although the demand for it was high. We thought that it would be a benefit for users, but that we wouldn't be able to charge.

“We soon learnt that there are a lot of people who want that kind of model, so we would like to introduce more pay-as-you-use items into the game. But there were too few items in FFXI – however we don't want to take it to the other extreme entirely for FFXIV.

“And also with regards the game design, FFXI was based on parties and playing in groups – but of course that means the advantage is players cannot play alone. So to formulate a party you needed to find a player with a similar skillset, yet it's not always easy to find those kinds of players. In FFXIV we have made that part much easier - so people can enjoy much more on their own. We've made it easier in that way.”


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Isn't this the same as this?
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“The basic model hasn't changed,” he said. “It's a monthly flat rate service with additional charges for items that users want to buy.

“For FFXI we didn't initially set up the item transaction model that well – although the demand for it was high. We thought that it would be a benefit for users, but that we wouldn't be able to charge.

“We soon learnt that there are a lot of people who want that kind of model, so we would like to introduce more pay-as-you-use items into the game. But there were too few items in FFXI – however we don't want to take it to the other extreme entirely for FFXIV.


Not this again... Wada shouldn't mention stuff like this because it only confuses us and it can be interpreted in many different ways.
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He never said it will "beat World of Warcraft," so you shouldn't put quotes around it. He said it will be a serious rival and that WoW will be vulnerable if/when it transitions to a sequel, but still tough competition. It all sounded pretty reasonable to me.

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“WoW is a tough competitor, but whether you are talking about EverQuest, Ultima or Lineage there has never been a company that has a continuously successful number one and two MMO,” he said, speaking of that transition to a full sequel.

Something of an odd thing to say, considering Square is the one currently making an MMO sequel, not Blizzard.
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I don't see anywhere that it says he will "beat WoW" like you are claiming. And so what if he wants to say that it can rival it, perhaps it will? And anyone that develops an MMO without looking at WoW and taking at least a little from that system is an idiot. It's proven successful, millions of people play it and they are doing something right. And as a CEO of a company if he were to say "well ya, we'll never come close to WoW" would show a lack of faith in their game.
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#7 Dec 17 2009 at 10:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Well blizzard is working on a new MMO, they just haven't released what that is.
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"item transaction model"?!, "pay as you use items"!? wtf?

has it been decided that they will include RMT in the game? that sucks!
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#9 Dec 17 2009 at 10:46 AM Rating: Decent
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"beat WoW" being the publicly dubbed term for the game that succeeds WoW in popularity.
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He never says that, either.

He states that history has proven that an MMO company has never made a sequel or successor to their game and have had both of them be the most played games in the genre at the same time, implying that he hopes that XIV will be the primary rival for Blizzard's eventual WoW successor.

Is it idiotic to have faith or confidence in your own fairly powerful franchise?



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“The basic model hasn't changed,” he said. “It's a monthly flat rate service with additional charges for items that users want to buy.


Items as in account features/extra characters? Or better in game items....

I seriously hope it's the first
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I honestly doubt it's the latter. The Dev team were adamantly against an official RMT, because it causes so many significant problems in game balance. If they sell items, I'd wager it would be stuff akin to statues for your MH and moogle wands. Unnecessary stuff with little in-game value, aside from the coolness factor.
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I think it will beat WoW
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He's right about one thing, though... that's WoW can't live forever.
But it's definitely not done yet. Not even close.

But there is definitely going to be a time when it becomes so dated that people just start gravitating towards the newer titles.

But obviously current MMORPG graphics don't have enough of a "wow!" factor to pull people away from WoW because ... well look at how much of an effect Aion has had on WoW. (none)

And I don't think FFXI is going to be that much better than Aion graphically if it's on the PS3... let's be honest, they need to worry about FPS issues as well, I really don't know what to think about the PS3 version or how that's going to hold FFXIV back...

(I'm back to speculating now that beta looks to be nearby-ish. :))

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Well blizzard is working on a new MMO, they just haven't released what that is.



Based off blizzards known games, I would venture to guess its going to be a starcraft or diablo sequel. I've actually seen videos of DIII, so most likely that is the route they are taking.

Also, as Wada is not part of the development, take everything he says with a grain of salt. Just because he is the boss doesn't mean he knows every little detail about every game they make. He is confident the game will be good and we should be excited that he thinks that.

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Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 are already announced.

Blizzard has a NEW unannounced MMO.
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How about keeping this to one thread? You know, the one started about a week ago that is about 3 threads down?
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Poubelle wrote:
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How about keeping this to one thread? You know, the one started about a week ago that is about 3 threads down?


because this thread is made by a different member and everybody hates you. plus his name is red.


Ohh of course, I forgot.
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#20 Dec 17 2009 at 2:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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ditx wrote:
Despite Tanaka already explicitly stating he couldn't care less about WoW and it's user base, Wada has once again opened his big mouth on the game he clearly knows nothing about and claimed it will "beat World of Warcraft". This man is really starting to **** me off lately

Wada wrote:
blah blah blah




I don't see anything out of line here in regards to WoW. As others have mentioned, the phrase "beat World of Warcraft" doesn't occur in the quoted section, so I think you're taking it and running a bit.

But frankly, I don't think it would be wrong of him to say that, anyway. He should confident in his company and the products that they produce, and if he rationally decided to risk his reputation with such a claim, then that's his call. Actually, I'd be more bothered by what you write that Tanaka said (if he actually did) that "he couldn't care less about WoW and it's user base". He should care about that. If you aren't noting why others in your industry are successful, you're missing a chance to study your demographic and look at other thriving takes on MMORPG's. That's important info, even if you're using it to purposely do something different than WoW.

I hope (and I'm 99% sure) that they've paid very close attention to WoW's success. There are many things to cull from that game, good and bad.

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Thought we already established a couple weeks ago that some Taiwanese guy beat WoW.
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#23 Dec 17 2009 at 5:08 PM Rating: Default
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You know it's pretty **** apparent in this thread who the people that never actually read the article are.

Wada talking about RMT and Wada talking WoW successor are 2 different products, and if you actually read the article you'd clearly see Wada is implying it will knock WoW off the top spot.
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You know it's pretty **** apparent in this thread who the people that never actually read the article are.

Wada talking about RMT and Wada talking WoW successor are 2 different products, and if you actually read the article you'd clearly see Wada is implying it will knock WoW off the top spot.


Yeah I'm still not seeing it.

Wada wrote:
“WoW is a tough competitor, but whether you are talking about EverQuest, Ultima or Lineage there has never been a company that has a continuously successful number one and two MMO,” he said, speaking of that transition to a full sequel.

Asked if he thought Final Fantasy XIV was a serious rival to World of Warcraft’s throne, Wada said “yes, but the flipside is that they are a tough competition.”


This is the closest thing I'm finding to him saying that FFXIV will top WoW, and quite frankly, he doesn't go all the way to saying that. He say's they'll be "tough competition", and that FFXIV would be a serious rival. That's nothing that any self-respecting game producer wouldn't say. They're aiming big, and that's to be expected.

And like I said, even if he did say it'd beat WoW...what's the problem exactly?
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And like I said, even if he did say it'd beat WoW...what's the problem exactly?


Exactly. I would be more pumped if he straight up said that. I'd hardly call it idiocy. FFXI was the big thing until WoW came around. No reason a title with this much weight and fan following can't beat out WoW. WoW cannot last forever.
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And like I said, even if he did say it'd beat WoW...what's the problem exactly?


Exactly. I would be more pumped if he straight up said that. I'd hardly call it idiocy. FFXI was the big thing until WoW came around. No reason a title with this much weight and fan following can't beat out WoW. WoW cannot last forever.


I hate to say it but WoW will probably last for at least another 10 years....people still play d2 religiously.
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I think most of his statements are simply hyperbole. If he seriously thinks FF14 is going to get 11 million subscribers anytime soon (or ever), he might need a looooong vacation somewhere peaceful.

Now that isn't to say FF14 won't be a good game; Just to say that Blizzard has done an excellent job of making WoW the game for Joe Average Gamer. FFXI really wasn't directed at the average gamer. FF14 might be more directed at them, but only time will tell.
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Even after XI, there are many fans of the Final Fantasy series that are against the idea of and MMO Final Fantasy taking a number. I also don't believe that XIV's population won't be anything too much more than XI's.
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I hate to say it but WoW will probably last for at least another 10 years....people still play d2 religiously.


The same can be said for ffxi, runescape, and many other games. That doesn't mean all of them get to stay top dog for 15 years.
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To everyone wondering what is going on, Wada is implying that once the next Blizz MMO comes out and knocks WoW off the top MMO spot FFXIV will be poised to claim the number two spot and finally dethrone WoW as...well, number two. It's a rather weak statement.

I personally think Blizz will wait until someone knocks WoW off of the top spot before they release their next mmo, though. Or they might just have a number in mind, whether monetary or subscription based, that will trigger the release.

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Blizzard is a **** solid company. I still find myself enjoying some Diablo 2, or Starcraft every now and again.
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This²

ANY company who thinks they're going to dethrone WoW either has a better than amazing game that will appeal to even more people than WoW does or hasn't a clue. (And SE falls into the latter 98% of the time.)

FF14 won't dethrone WoW. Star Trek online probably won't put a big dent in it. Star Wars --IF they finally get it correct-- has the best chance to start to worry Blizzard. Though, Star Wars Galaxies was horrible, and people said it was the best thing since sliced bread (before they had actually played it).

I hope FF14 is every bit and more successful as FFXI was in its prime. It certainly looks like it will be. But to be as successful as WoW? Naw.
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He didn't say it would beat WoW, but ****, I wouldn't mind if FFXIV did. I'd love it.

The whole bit about pay as you play stuff kind of worries me. It's either something like WoW, with server transfers, race changes, name changes, etc, or it's in-game items. I remember reading the dev team saying they didn't want RMT in their game, but who knows at this point. :(

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Based off blizzards known games, I would venture to guess its going to be a starcraft or diablo sequel. I've actually seen videos of DIII, so most likely that is the route they are taking.


If I remember correctly, it's actually going to be a completely new franchise.
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I have to wonder how ff14 is going to turn out when they go head to head with wow, wow appealed to a lot of people who never even played mmo's and theyre still watering down the game and difficulty
even now. I mean tier 9 from heroics... really?

I dont even know if a lot of thier playerbase is interested in a lot of new mmo's , they all expect the game to as easy and as polished as wow.
Alot of them try the newest mmo out, and its to hard or to much of a grind or has a few bugs. So they go back to thier lvl 80 night elf hunter and its back to collecting vanity pets and leveling alts.
and the irony behind it all is the new tier gear being constantly realesed makes raiding the biggest grind of all mmo's....
Blizzard has it so good, I cant see anybody topping 11mil subs for a long time

I guess SE is going to just try to capitalize on wow's age. even tho wow is polished to a mirror shine, its becoming preety **** stale
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Based off blizzards known games, I would venture to guess its going to be a starcraft or diablo sequel. I've actually seen videos of DIII, so most likely that is the route they are taking.


If I remember correctly, it's actually going to be a completely new franchise.


Aye, that's right. Their next mmo will be a completely new IP, made from scratch.

To be honest, out of all of the games coming out within the next few years the next blizz mmo is what I'm most looking forward to.

Edited, Dec 18th 2009 12:47am by Yogtheterrible
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People are so worried about new mmos competing with WoW. Someone should just make an mmo where you control your character as your character sits in front of a computer and plays WoW.

Honestly, why should competition with WoW even be a concern for a new FF mmo? Attempting to directly compete with Blizzard for WoW’s players will only end in tears. The sooner people realize this and focus on carving out their own markets for wonderful and unique IPs, the sooner we can stop being disappointed by crappy mmos that fail a year after release.

Building an mmo should be a labor of love. Aiming solely to match Blizzard’s fluke success is nothing more than greed. You can’t design an mmo to be as successful as WoW. You build a game you love, put it out there, and rely on the players who love it as much as you to pay your bills. That’s all you can do. Blizzard didn’t even expect their playerbase to be so insanely huge. They were blindsided.

I wish all the developers out there would just forget that WoW exists and focus on making good games.
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Hahaha!! Can you imagine that they ask him if it'll compete and he hangs his head and goes "no...not really".

He has to say 'yes'. It will get ff fans pumped, it will make WoW players take a second look at ffxiv, so of course he has to say yes. Saying no would be a death sentence for ffxiv before it even began.

Idiocy isn't the right word... unless you're talking about the OP's comments hah.
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He was asked a dumb question and gave the only response he could give. I doubt his answer represents his real feelings.
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OP seems butthurt.

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Unless FFXIV goes on advertisment steroids like WoW is I don't see it grabbing a mass market appeal. I want FFXIV to be a great success, and as popular if not more so than wow. Wow had huge marketing behind it and its still advertising... c'mon Mr. T Night Elf Mohawk grenades? That is pure amazing on a stick. I imagine FFXIV will be taking itself more seriously, as it should, since its a FF game. This takes away the goof off appeal that WoW has on the casual gamer market, and because of this, even if FF is a better game than WoW, it still won't garner as much appeal.

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Honestly, why should competition with WoW even be a concern for a new FF mmo? Attempting to directly compete with Blizzard for WoW’s players will only end in tears. The sooner people realize this and focus on carving out their own markets for wonderful and unique IPs, the sooner we can stop being disappointed by crappy mmos that fail a year after release.

Building an mmo should be a labor of love. Aiming solely to match Blizzard’s fluke success is nothing more than greed. You can’t design an mmo to be as successful as WoW. You build a game you love, put it out there, and rely on the players who love it as much as you to pay your bills. That’s all you can do. Blizzard didn’t even expect their playerbase to be so insanely huge. They were blindsided.

I wish all the developers out there would just forget that WoW exists and focus on making good games.


Because WoW controls so much of the MMORPG demographic, it's pointless to create a new MMO that isn't hoping to dethrone them. I've been doing some research lately on MMORPG's in general. WoW is so special because it controls Asia, EU, and the NA region without breaking a sweat. FFXI was a hardcore game that found a small niche. It's no wonder why FFXI couldn't attract any of the mainstream market for long because it took forever to earn gil, acquire gear, and level your jobs.

SE's has learned from their mistakes on FFXI and looks to apply their new approach in FFXIV. I agree developers need to create good games, however good games cost a lot to produce. RPG's are still a niche market in the NA region. SE knows they need to attract all walks of life to play FFXIV. And those WoW players represent a solid base of customers. The Asian market plays WoW and Aion for example. SE needs to drag those players away too. Otherwise, what's the point of releasing a new game? If SE is so pleased with their user base in FFXI, why create another MMO.

The info we've obtained so far from SE has shown me that they're targeting the WoW demographic. The mainstream audience was missing from FFXI. I can't begin to tell you how many of my friends had to quit because FFXI was so time consuming. Soloing was almost non existent in FFXI until recently. SE has learned these hard lessons hopefully and the end result of FFXIV should be a lot easier to dive into and play. I'm not saying SE should produce a WoW clone, but the formula is key to making more money. That's why so much emphasis of FFXIV is on the casual element.
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Unless FFXIV goes on advertisment steroids like WoW is I don't see it grabbing a mass market appeal.


Not ONCE have I seen any kind of advertisement for FFXI in the Netherlands and only twice did I step into a store that indeed had ONE copy of FFXI. WoW, on the contrary, was in every magazine, on tv, and available in every store. No wonder WoW draws more attention.

Sure he quality of the game is important and as far as I know there is a market for a more ~~ complicated ~~ and more sophisticated game than WoW, but if SE is aiming at the WoW playerbase as well I suggest they adjust their marketing strategy and budget.
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