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#1 Dec 22 2009 at 12:01 AM Rating: Default
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So, out of all this, I'm really waiting for the guide of this game. I remember buying the 11 guide before the game came out, and actually helped out getting a head start on the game, not only learning about the different cities and areas, but also seeing what quests can be done. Who else cant wait for the guide??!!
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#2 Dec 22 2009 at 12:10 AM Rating: Default
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The Brady guide? I found it to be useful... as a paperweight (or ironically, a bookend).
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#3 Dec 22 2009 at 12:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Websites like Zam will be far better than any brady guide book so don't waste money on that.
#4 Dec 22 2009 at 12:49 AM Rating: Decent
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I want another Brady Guide, mostly for the laughs I'll have at its expense.
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#5 Dec 22 2009 at 2:50 AM Rating: Default
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My friend bought the Brady guide when we first started playing, and I loved it for the first month... Then I learned how to actually play, lol.

I think i'll stick to on-line or in-game help instead of buying a guide.
#6 Dec 22 2009 at 11:09 AM Rating: Default
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i bought mine for FFXI coz I never really play any RPGs or FFs, it was useful at first for the first month, then I realize it's a waste of money.

#7 Jan 01 2010 at 10:25 PM Rating: Decent
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It helped me out in FFXI, i had no pc at the time. It really helped out on the quest and it was surprisingly accurate. I still have it and i bought the one that was the Atlas. It showed maps and nm spots. It was off but still helpful.
#8 Jan 02 2010 at 1:48 AM Rating: Default
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I also bought the Brady guide and found it useful in getting started - I didn't start playing until the NA PS2 release and found adjusting to the game really daunting. I remember my first ten minutes in game - running in Sandy to complete that first adventurer's quest, a guy ran up to me and wanted to give me a scroll of some spell or another. I didn't know how to trade. And then a cutscene with a moogle started, I couldn't trade, and I didn't know how to respond to his tells yet. Then he called me a noob, and ran off. So I read my Brady guide (which could have been replaced by my game manual in this case. heh).

The Brady guide was useful to easing you into the game for a month or two - and then it became a paperweight. I will not be buying one for this game unless it comes with bonus artwork or something cool like that. My $20 will be better spent on another month's subscription than info I can get in more accurate detail online.
#9 Jan 02 2010 at 4:41 AM Rating: Decent
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I didn't buy the FFXI guide but my boyfriend has it and I think it's amazing, so I'll buy the FFXIV this time. I don't think I'll use it when I'm playing though, as I'm used to online databases and I think that's way faster. Plus they're updated.

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#10 Jan 02 2010 at 11:02 AM Rating: Decent
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The guide was useful at the start, considering I knew next to nothing and hadn't realized the beauty of online databases.

I'll probably pick up the new one, as well.
#11 Jan 02 2010 at 11:41 AM Rating: Decent
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May be better off sticking to the future FFXIVencyclopediaWiki or something.
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#12 Jan 02 2010 at 11:50 AM Rating: Good
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I don't get why game companies don't make the guide themselves and cut out the middleman completely. If the middlemen can spend the time and money to put together a half-assed guide and still make a profit, why not take that profit for yourself. If I had a choice between a $5 bradyguide and a $50 SE guide, I think I would take the SE guide.

Especially in today's age where they could use their micro transaction model and offer digital guides online on their established websites.

I like community sites because of the fast updating of information. But people do like professional guides so there would be a market for it.
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#13 Jan 02 2010 at 12:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Even though the brady guide was laughably inaccurate, it did contain some useful information. Hopefully the next guide will bring maps of areas with certain points of interest, properties of mobs such as weaknesses/strengths, and maybe even a mission/quest guide. Otherwise, I'll pass on the Bst/Smn job combos.
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#14 Jan 02 2010 at 1:12 PM Rating: Decent
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I'll rely on ten bookmarked sites before I rely on another Brady Guide again.
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#15 Jan 02 2010 at 7:02 PM Rating: Decent
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In the early stages of the game (including the beta period) a guide will be very useful. Any guide book's useful period, though, will be very short
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#16 Jan 02 2010 at 7:15 PM Rating: Decent
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The people that create these brady book guides have to play the game before they can actually fill the brady book with information. That being said, the information on fansites will be much more extensive and accurate than a company trying to cash in on something with crappy information in their *** brady book.
#17 Jan 02 2010 at 7:15 PM Rating: Good
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The only things I might want from such a guide would be specifics on macroing, Artwork, and perhaps maps like in the Atlas for XI... just a bit more of them.

I do not want anything telling me how I have to play an MMO or any step by step guide on how to minmax or garbage like that.

Funny people mentioning the brady guides.. I've never owned one that didn't self shredd along the spine. Some quality binding would be nice to see, I mean I barly even used the X one and I lost about 20 pages befor I could finish the game.
#18 Jan 02 2010 at 9:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Any Strat. guide for a MMORPG should try and focus on information that won't become outdated within three months.
As others have said, maps are one example of this type of information, and magic, or job abilities are pretty solid as well.
Beyond that recipe lists and loot tables are fairly consistent.

As I recall one of the biggest gripes with the original Brady Guide was that it described BST as a solo exclusive class. this obviously proved to be innacurate as time went by. However, this perception was essentially a side effect of the wording within the manual, and as a result BST went on to be one of the most respected classes in the game.
I can scarcely disagree with the folks that say that the brady guide was a waste of money, i guess i just urge Brady to focus more on lasting details this time around.
#19 Jan 03 2010 at 9:42 AM Rating: Decent
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I found the old FFXI guide moderately helpful prior to release of the game. It certainly helped me get in the mood and decide which race I wanted to start with and some of the jobs I wanted to go after. Once you start playing the info online is always quick to catch up and surpass anything you can write down in a guide no matter how good you are. Brady did have some mis-information which was kind of counterproductive, like saying SAMs made good tanks, etc. I think it even suggested WAR/WHM if I recall.

However, I would probably buy the guide again. It was great reading material to keep next to the toilet. It was odd, every time I took a dump I ended up wanting to play ffxi... I was like pavlov's dog after awhile. The guide was gone, but after every visit to the can I still wanted to play ffxi.
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