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#1 Dec 29 2009 at 10:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ha, a ridiculous question to be sure.

I've long been a huge fan of video games (the past 20 years), long been a fan of Final Fantasy (the past 15 years), and long been a fan of MMOs (the past 8 years). Sadly, my girlfriend has a hard time accepting video games as a legit hobby.

She's freely admitted that her biggest problem with them is that she isn't any good. She loves Mario Kart, and played the crap out of Mario 64 in college. But she hasn't been able to find any games that are casual yet challenging, and allow her to just play for a little bit and still feel accomplished.

So what I'm hoping is FFXIV might be that game for her. There's nothing I want more (ok, I'm sure there's actually quite a few things I want more...) than for us to be able to play a game like this together. From all the tidbits I've read (and I think I've read about every tidbit that's been released), it sounds like they're trying to go in a direction that might allow this.

Maybe she'd like to become a crafter or a harvester, and those are viable option in this game (*fingers crossed*). It would be awesome to have a partnership with her, I go out and kill stuff, she crafts, we game in harmony :)

All I'm saying is, that would be great, because I know I'm gonna get sucked into Eorzea and it'd be nice to share that.

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#2 Dec 29 2009 at 10:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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Casual, challenging, accomplish things in a short amount of time, able to play a crafter/gatherer class exclusively, i beleive this will be the perfect mmorpg for your girlfriend. You'll just have to get her to play it for awhile so she can get addicted to ffxiv then it'll be smooth sailing from there.
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No she will not like it.
You can go play FFXIV while I go to movies w/ her. j/k

It really depends on what your gf is looking for in terms of gaming, and not everybody (male or female) would like to spend hours a day playing a game.
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My Wife used to watch me play FFXI all the time, and I've been taking some time out recently to really introduce her into what a "MMO" is. Her first reply after a brief explanation was: "Wait..so you can play forever!?", lol. She seems eager to try it out and is catching on quite quick. Oh, and when I say wife, she's 23, and I guess she wants to be a gamer from watching me so much. I mean, if my Wife doesn't catch on to the battle aspect of things, she can always Quest with me, or Craft. If you look at it this way, you get a free personal crafter! Just kidding. Just start explaining things to her early, let her watch some FFXI fan made videos, etc., and she should catch on. Especially if she has played video games before. She can play with my Wife if she wants, wow, that sounds wrong >.<
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#5 Dec 29 2009 at 1:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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Oh how I wish this upon my wife. My wife doesn't mind me playing video games. She does have a problem with me playing WoW. The only reason why she hates WoW is that amount of time I spent playing it, with raiding and all that crap. PvP is a bit different in that it's sort of like hopping on Xbox 360 and killing away on MW2, which I do all the time and she is fine with that. Now all I have to do is keep her from knowing that FFXIV is an MMO. However, she is becoming quite addicted to playing Facebook games, like Farmville and cafeville or whatever it's called, which is sort of like an MMO, but on a smaller scale.

So, this will be interesting....
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Couple tips if she decides to play and likes it.

Make her create a male character or make her tell everyone in game she is really a guy.

Don't let her play alone with "friends" she meets in game that you don't know.



Sounds harsh, but remember this. There are a lot of horndogs online that like to get things started.

I talked my wife into playing XI a couple years ago. We were married for 8 years and had 3 toddlers at that point. She was friends with my friends, but also met some friends of her own while I was away at events. No problems at first, her friends seemed ok, other than the fact they were morons that agroed everything in the zone when I would tried to help them with stuff like coffers and AF.

Well they became good enough friends that they started texting outside of game about RL stuff, family etc. Pretty soon wife was acting weird. Low and behold these texted turned into "if I was your boyfriend you would have flowers everyday, candle lit baths, etc." These guys got her into a fantasy world of prince charming and what not. Pretty soon her home life, being middle aged, married, and tied down with kids became boring to her and these new fantasies took over. These guys were praying on her because she was married and nieve. They could get cyber, text, and photos from her with no worries of her becoming baggage to them.

Almost ended our marriage. She almost lost her kids and family over these guys. Because they had her believing that something was there that wasn't ever going to happen. Now that she's been away from mmo's for awhile she is back to normal and happy with our life and family.

I might have just married a nut, but I'm just saying, there is a lot of fast-talkers out there that are only looking to get there own jollies with no concern of RL consequences.

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A bit premature to ask the question really as you shouldn't be able to even answer that question for yourself yet.
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A bit premature to ask the question really as you shouldn't be able to even answer that question for yourself yet.


They may mean "Will my girlfriend like MMORPGs?", maybe.
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#9 Dec 29 2009 at 2:36 PM Rating: Good
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A bit premature to ask the question really as you shouldn't be able to even answer that question for yourself yet.


As yog says, we dont even know the basics of the mechanics of the game yet. So you cant ask such a question when no one knows what it will be like. But if we assume its simular to FF11 then its a big no. For new gamers, they enjoy games that give instant gratification. And FF11 certainly wasnt remotely that. I recommend you go play WoW or something with her where she could have the instant gratification that a new gamer would enjoy.

Not trying to be mean or anything but FF11 simply isnt made for beginner players.

Edited, Dec 29th 2009 3:42pm by Mitsuuko
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If all she's played is Mario so far, have her play (or watch you play) a story driven game. RPG's, let alone MMO's, are a very different beast from Action/Adventure games.
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Not trying to be mean or anything but FF11 simply isnt made for beginner players.


Yet every new MMO will have new players every day, that actually level up and get real good at their job. So I don't really get this. I would say it is made for all kinds of players.
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We have a rough idea of what SquareEnix is aiming for with ffxiv from interviews, the creatorz basically said that ffxiv will be solo friendly, caters to casual with little playtime all the way up to hardcore with alot of playtime, can have the sense of accomplishment if you log on for only 30min at a time and somethings like that. There's alot of info as to what ffxiv will be like in those interviews.

To sum all of that up ffxiv will cater to any type of player imaginable, i beleive this is what SE is aiming for. Make your girlfriend play as a **** Miqo'te she'll like the attention.

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Make your girlfriend play as a **** Miqo'te she'll like the attention.


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Skeptic wrote:


Yet every new MMO will have new players every day, that actually level up and get real good at their job. So I don't really get this. I would say it is made for all kinds of players.


New players to MMO not to gaming. I doubt you will find a single FF11 player who been playing for 3+ years that has never played any other forms of gaming. Where a more instant gratification game like PSU, in its hay day, it was very common.

EDIT: Also important to add, the way OP describes his girlfriends experience with gaming. It seems like she mostly dislikes them. Nothing good can come out of you forcing her into something she dislikes. I would really recommend focusing on something that you both enjoy.

Edited, Dec 29th 2009 4:20pm by Mitsuuko
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Make her create a male character or make her tell everyone in game she is really a guy.

Don't let her play alone with "friends" she meets in game that you don't know.


And don't forget to kick the **** out of her if she leaves the house wearing anything other than her burkha.
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And don't forget to kick the sh*t out of her if she leaves the house wearing anything other than her burkha.


He means this:

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She has to leave every day like this.

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#17 Dec 29 2009 at 11:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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MMOs have made leaps and bounds in recent years to attract female and casual gamers.
Never before has this niche slice of the gaming world been more accessible.
I believe you should try to introduce your girlfriend to XIV.

Although, you may want to see how some features play out in practice before leveraging your argument with them. For example; If you think your girlfriend would be into crafting and wants a challenge, you should wait and see if the crafting does indeed possess a challenging in-depth mechanic. Furthermore, if your concerned about her gaming insecurities, you want to make sure crafting has a respectable learning curve or in-game tutorial. Like yog said, it may pay to bide your time to build a strong argument.

I will say Robby has something of a point.
Marital issues aside. Even to a completely disinterested female gamer that particular element of online play is bothersome. There's a reason many female gamers still hide behind male avatars or the "my mic is broken" excuse. (Not that you should in any way encourage that. It's ultimately futile as people tend to get a vibe of gender from typing alone, and you might make her feel as though the genre is more unwelcome to women than it actually is.)

You may be relieved to hear, the climate today is much better than it was years ago. But, it doesn't hurt to go over the basics. Like, how to operate the game's Blacklist. How to report someone to the GMs. When it's OK to report someone for harassing you. Arm her with the power to defend herself from that element, first and foremost. You can decide for yourself how much farther past that you want to take it.



Edited, Dec 30th 2009 1:34am by Zemzelette
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Like somebody said earlier, get her to play some other RPG games first. If she likes those then you might have a shot.

(Maybe FFX-2? That was kind of girly, you know? Smiley: tongue)
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Lol the mere thought of my wife even sitting in front of the computer screen for more than 1 minute would be the reall Final Fantasy XIV! My wife hates gaming - doesnt see the point - I've been trying to get her interested for years but have given up. I find that for me I have to try and balance the good home life stuff very delicately with my fetish for playing games (of which FF has had the greatest addiction for me). My wife can't see the point in them, doesnt find them visually exciting and thinks they are the biggest waste of time. Unfortunately I disagree and enjoy the interactivness and in comparison the TV is so passive and doesnt involve me as much. I wish I could get her to understand this lol. She has no idea that I want to play FFXIV and I am dreading the moment when she sees it on screen again - hopefully if it is more 'casual' I won't play as much??? lol who am I kidding!
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She's freely admitted that her biggest problem with them is that she isn't any good. She loves Mario Kart, and played the crap out of Mario 64 in college. But she hasn't been able to find any games that are casual yet challenging, and allow her to just play for a little bit and still feel accomplished.


I heard the same thing when I got my wife into FFXI. Her thing was that she didn't know anything about the game, how to play, what to do, etc so she was just scared. Then when she seen that grouping was part of the game, she was even worse. She was afraid that if she screwed up, people would talk crap. She was also afraid of messing up and letting people down.

She figured out her job and she read a ton of wiki, she became comfortable. To the point that healing alliance in sky events she would ***** back at people when they would complain about something, like asking for r3's during kirin fights. LOL after only a couple months she went from a kitten to a lion when it came to doing her job. She would tear into people about not bringing oils powders, exp buffers, etc.

It's just a comfort thing with your GF too, I bet. You just need to make sure to stay with her and help her figure things out.

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So what I'm hoping is FFXIV might be that game for her. There's nothing I want more (ok, I'm sure there's actually quite a few things I want more...) than for us to be able to play a game like this together. From all the tidbits I've read (and I think I've read about every tidbit that's been released), it sounds like they're trying to go in a direction that might allow this.


There really hasn't been a whole a lot of confirmed info released yet. We have basically been given a glimpse of package cover and back, but the manual is still hidden inside.

The hints, rumors, and speculation has been pointing to a mixed casual and hardcore friendly game, but we won't know for sure until later.

striveldt wrote:
Maybe she'd like to become a crafter or a harvester, and those are viable option in this game (*fingers crossed*). It would be awesome to have a partnership with her, I go out and kill stuff, she crafts, we game in harmony :)


Again we don't know for sure what the game holds. On the website, it almost appears that a crafter is a class of it's own. But everything is pretty vague right now, so only time will tell how crafting will truly work in the game.

To be safe, you might better fantasize about duoing with her through content. Picking complimenting classes and take on the world together as partners.

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All I'm saying is, that would be great, because I know I'm gonna get sucked into Eorzea and it'd be nice to share that.


This might be where the wrench gets tossed into the gears. If you get "sucked in" and play a more serious/hardcore/fast paced style and she decides she just wants to take her time, you might have some problems.

A couple joined my guild in lotro not long ago. He was into going all out and leveling up, she decided she wanted to play an hour here or an hour there. After he hit level 30 and she was still at 15, she felt left behind. She got ****** and quit the game. He did get her to come back a week later, but they both started over and he slowed down to her speed. Now she is happy and he is happy to be playing with her. He said it was more fun the 2nd time around with her beside him.

Depending on her style of playing you might have to adjust if you want to keep her happy and interested in the game. Don't leave her behind. If you get lucky, maybe she will be the same style as you after she gets the hang of the game.

Otherwise you might want to consider having two characters for yourself (if possible depending how SE handles multiple characters). You use one character for nothing but GF play time and the other for your balls to the wall play time. Just remember, when she logs on, you switch to the GF playtime character--no skipping out cause you have a raid or what ever comes up. GF time will always be first if you want to keep her happy and playing with you. Unless you have an very understanding GF that don't mind you running off with the boys when she wants to spend time with you.

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Lol the mere thought of my wife even sitting in front of the computer screen for more than 1 minute would be the reall Final Fantasy XIV! My wife hates gaming - doesnt see the point - I've been trying to get her interested for years but have given up. I find that for me I have to try and balance the good home life stuff very delicately with my fetish for playing games (of which FF has had the greatest addiction for me). My wife can't see the point in them, doesnt find them visually exciting and thinks they are the biggest waste of time. Unfortunately I disagree and enjoy the interactivness and in comparison the TV is so passive and doesnt involve me as much. I wish I could get her to understand this lol. She has no idea that I want to play FFXIV and I am dreading the moment when she sees it on screen again - hopefully if it is more 'casual' I won't play as much??? lol who am I kidding!


My wife was like that at first to. If I sit down and watch TV I fall asleep, no matter what time of day. I pointed out to her that if I'm sitting infront of a screen, I might as well be doing something instead of vegging out.

I started her an account even though she said no when I suggested it times before. I made her watch the opening CS where the town was attacked. Then I made her create a character (this where she got interested). I said to her "if you did try the game, what would you want your character to look like?" She looked through the models for a few minutes and liked the blonde, ponytail hume girl. Then we got her in game and I met her with my character and we running around a bit. She played for another year after that. She went from not wanting to play at all to helping me with sky ls business, attendance records, points, bids, etc.
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My wife was like that at first to. If I sit down and watch TV I fall asleep, no matter what time of day. I pointed out to her that if I'm sitting infront of a screen, I might as well be doing something instead of vegging out.

I started her an account even though she said no when I suggested it times before. I made her watch the opening CS where the town was attacked. Then I made her create a character (this where she got interested). I said to her "if you did try the game, what would you want your character to look like?" She looked through the models for a few minutes and liked the blonde, ponytail hume girl. Then we got her in game and I met her with my character and we running around a bit. She played for another year after that. She went from not wanting to play at all to helping me with sky ls business, attendance records, points, bids, etc.


Sounds like you managed to do it Robby - just cant seem to do it myself - I have tried everything - even bought her a WiFit last xmas - she used it for a month and then never again - waste of moola :()

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LOL thank you - still took me a few edits to get it!

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EdyNOTB wrote:
juliannaragnarok wrote:
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LOL thank you - still took me a few edits to get it!

Edited, Dec 30th 2009 3:05pm by EdyNOTB


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I think introducing people and getting them sucked into MMOs is something more suited for enemies.
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I'm going to just beg my wife to play it until she gives in.
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Wow, I can't believe the discussion this sparked! ^.^

Sounds like I may be treading on shaky ground if I try and get her to dive in head first. I like the idea of having her play a normal rpg first (though that may be tricky too). I suppose, best case scenario, she'll watch me a play a few times and it'll pique her curiosity.

Now if only I could find her that mithra outfit!! GRRROOOWWWLLLL
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Sounds like I may be treading on shaky ground if I try and get her to dive in head first. I like the idea of having her play a normal rpg first (though that may be tricky too). I suppose, best case scenario, she'll watch me a play a few times and it'll pique her curiosity.


Oblivion is a pretty fun rpg imo. Has role playing (can be good, bad, vampire, thief, etc.) , exploration/adventure, harvesting (herbs and plants), crafting (potions from stuff you gathered), and questing. And if you turn difficulty to easiest, almost anyone could play it without much trouble with foes.

I would say try her out in an easier mmo like some of those free to play ones. But that could back fire if she decides she likes it, she might not want to switch to XIV. Or possibly bad experience with other players might sour her from mmo's all together. Probably safer to get her to try a single player rpg and get her hooked with the adventure and then take her under your wing in XIV. Because it sounds like you might not have but a couple shots of getting her to try it and stick with it.


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Oblivion is a pretty fun rpg imo. Has role playing (can be good, bad, vampire, thief, etc.) , exploration/adventure, harvesting (herbs and plants), crafting (potions from stuff you gathered), and questing. And if you turn difficulty to easiest, almost anyone could play it without much trouble with foes.


Edited, Dec 30th 2009 4:20pm by RobbyFaces


Also you might want to try FF12. It pretty much was a solo version of FF11 with alot of MMO aspects of grinding and loot collecting. Also the .hack series is actually a offline rpg to simulates a story happening within a MMORPG.
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Post a picture of your girlfriend wearing something skimpy and I can tell you if she will like the game or not.
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Why don't you ask your girlfriend to look at the game? Let her decide. Not us.
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She's freely admitted that her biggest problem with them is that she isn't any good. She loves Mario Kart, and played the crap out of Mario 64 in college. But she hasn't been able to find any games that are casual yet challenging, and allow her to just play for a little bit and still feel accomplished.


I realize this post will most likely be nuked, but.... Has she tried WoW? World of Warcraft was basically designed for people like her.

To answer your question, no one here has any idea how well FF14 is going to be for the casual gamer (and she sounds more like a oh-look-its-raining-hey!-I'll-play-a-game-today casual gamer - not that there's anything wrong with it). SE has stated that this will be a more casual friendly game, but we won't know for sure one wy or the other until its out. Even then, realease version of games these days play more like Betas. It probably won't be for a good three months until the game is 99% bug free and up to SE's standards.

In short, see if she likes WoW. If she does, then there's a decent chance she'll like FF14. If SE holds up to its word anyway.
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