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#1 Jan 06 2010 at 9:44 AM Rating: Good
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Warning: This may come off as a wall of text. The message is primarily aimed at prospective role-players for Final Fantasy XIV. If the roleplaying community is something you are interested in, please read on and take this all in as seriously as possible. This is the first of two public updates.

When it comes to Final Fantasy Online, the roleplaying community has often been small and practically invisible. We were never united in Vana’diel, tossed around from server to server with little idea of each other’s existences. By the time we all discovered each other, it was too late to have everyone jump servers to be more unified. In addition, the majority of the regular player base remained constantly oblivious to our existence. The “roleplaying” they thought they saw consisted of non-Rpers emoting silly stuff by the auction house. As such, our existence and true nature remained under the radar for most of these years. That mistake will most certainly be rectified this time around, though not easily.

If SE actually designates an official RP server (something they did not do for FFXI), we’ll be good to go right away. If they do not, it will take collaboration on our part to designate a RP server for ourselves. Even if they do happen to give us an official server, there are still issues that would need to be addressed to ensure a strong RP community overall. To do this, I intend to launch a site and forums to allow greater communication between future Rpers. This site, while not extravagant, will be used to discuss RP standards and styles, form guilds based on individual needs, begin the character creation process (storylines, bios, etc), and most importantly to select a RP server by popular vote upon receiving a server list if necessary. It will also be used to advertise all future active RP guilds, giving future RP members a central place to shop around for the styles and rules that fit them.

It would be naïve to think that all roleplayers can unite under a single guild. This is why the website/forums will -not- be a guild website. It will be a coalition of guilds. All former and current Rpers of Vana’diel, along with potential new Rpers, are welcome to take part in the discussions there. Non-Rpers are welcome to speak up there as well if they have useful contributions related to us. It would also be naïve to think that there will never be any kind of political OOC (out of character) rivalries between guilds later down the line. Let’s be realistic. This isn’t going to be a utopia or anything and everyone should know that right away. RPers have always been a rare breed in comparison to endgamers or just plain social guilds. Six months down the line, there’s no telling which RP guilds may start fizzling out, making their leaders possibly get desperate and do something they later regret. I estimate there to be approximately 8-9 main RP guilds from the onset, each different from the other. The best way to avoid these kind of clashes is to foster close relationships between each guild from the beginning. Cross-guild events (such as tavern nights, etc) along with server-wide RP hosted events would help bring the community closer together and prevent the potential disaster of competing for membership. Universal rules and standards will likely have to be set for guild interactions in order to avoid one RP guild stomping out another’s rules. All of this will be discussed and implemented via the upcoming coalition site.

Now for the status update. I have spent the last couple months or so communicating with leaders and representatives of various FFXI RP linkshells. The general consensus is that the -vast- majority of roleplayers are transferring to Hydaelyn/Eorzea. This is good in the sense that we’re looking at a large RP population from the start. It’s also bad because it means that Vana’diel’s RP population is practically destined to go extinct. In fact, Vana’diel is already on that thin rope. According to the information I’ve gathered, most RP communities have already split apart or fizzled out. Many of these people have scattered about to who knows where. This is going to make it difficult, though not impossible, to get ourselves organized.

RP communities throwing their much needed general support toward this united community include Sylph, Leviathan, Asura, Phoenix, and Kujata. I’ve only made minimal contact with the Lakshmi RPing community thus far but the reception of RP coalition is overall positive. I have so far been unable to reach CaitSith or Garuda. As such, I assume their communities have either ceased being or consist of only a small handful of slightly isolated members. This does not mean that they will not support this endeavor however. It simply means I have been unable to contact their leaders. In addition, the Siren RP community has already scattered and is probably going to be difficult to reorganize. I apologize in advance if I missed other RP groups.

So what can you do if you’re a prospective roleplayer? First and foremost, you should remain patient. I do not wish to launch a site/forums too soon for fear of people losing interest within a couple months and slowly drifting away, thus thinning our numbers before we even start the game. At the same time, I don’t desire to hold off until the last minute and blow our chances of getting fully organized. Hence, I intend to hold off until right before open beta. I may decide to launch the coalition -during- closed beta if it seems like a good idea and the premier RP groups are open to it. And by the looks of that, it isn’t too far off now. So expect us to go live within another month, two at the latest. By then, we’ll also have sufficient information to begin planning our characters and storylines out.

The second thing you can do is mobilize all interested RPers once we do start organizing ourselves. If you’re a former/current leader of a RP group in FFXI, you can do this by sending out mass emails to the users on your forums. For instance, I created a RP tribute video for Sylph and sent it out to over 200 of our 320+ past Rpers to hopefully get many in the mood for Rping in the new world. While I realize getting all 200 of those individuals is impossible, a good chunk is still quite realistic. If you aren’t a leader, you can help by getting together all of your RP buddies and preparing for the journey ahead. You can also sign up on the forums when we do actually go live. After all, that is where we will be selecting our server if necessary.

Finally, you can start brainstorming your character. I realize this may be difficult due to lack of lore and info. However, everyone can at least work on core traits and personality for their characters and tweak as needed. I think all of us want to see a healthy, vibrant, and high quality RP community. The more details you put into your character, the better. I think it's safe to say that many RPers are raising the bar a bit for expectations this time around.

Let me just wrap this up by saying that the roleplaying community is getting organized this time around. Most discussions regarding server selection, RP styles and standards, and RP politics will take place on the future RP coalition forums. Please look forward to our future plans and I shall see all you future roleplayers in Eorzea! Another final update and the RP coalition launch should be ready in the near future!

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*The above message has been approved by the aforementioned supporting RP communities.
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#2 Jan 06 2010 at 10:57 AM Rating: Decent
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I'd definitely be interested in joining an RP community. I tried for a while to get into one when I played FFXI a while back but eventually gave up. My character was on Pandemonium and I couldn't find any active RP shells. I tried to start one, but it didn't really work out and there wasn't much interest at all. Hopefully I'll be accepted into the Beta and can help you begin building the community from the start. I have a degree in visual arts, and have been using photoshop to create digital art and edit photographs for years. If I can help at all with the development of the website I would be glad to provide assistance. Send me a PM and I'll give you my email.

Edited, Jan 6th 2010 12:04pm by xxsidekickxx
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#3 Jan 06 2010 at 11:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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*shows up with a pitchfork and tar*

Oh... this isn't some call to arms about something SE is implementing in FFXIV according to some random translation that someone's mom's friend did for them...

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#4 Jan 06 2010 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
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First, I disagree with your first statement. The roleplaying community was not small. The difference between FFXI and other MMORPGs was that roleplayers didn't need to create separate societies for themselves.
I noticed that on FFXI, at least during it's earlier years, people naturally fell into their characters... Tarutarus really acted like Tarutarus might act, Mithras did the same, etc. Even Galkas sometimes acted more 'protective' in a way, lol. It may not have been 'proper' RP sessions, but I do believe there's always been roleplaying going on in the world of Vana'diel. I've always said this is why 'RP' Linkshells were never really successful.

Having said that, I do understand that to an avid roleplayer, the practice can be a whole lot more involved than just incorporating your character's race/job into the way you act (creating unique lore for your characters and acting totally differently than you would in real life). I agree that it's unfair to force RP players to organize themselves cross-server and unite to form a Linkshell. You basically have this entire virtual world as your playground to roleplay in, and you're being restricted to your small group because everyone else is non-RP. I also understand how difficult it could be to get in contact with RP players on all different servers who you don't even know and try to get everyone to come together.

I might not have agreed that roleplayers need their own server before, but I'm actually playing on the RP server of Aion Online (Lumiel) and I've had the pleasure of experiencing some pretty amazing RP. I'm fulltime RP (basically people specify whether they are RP in their character note) but I basically just do what I did on FFXI - I take my characters looks/faction/class and try to act as a Daeva might... I don't really go out of my way like other RPers, but I know that the way I'm acting will not disrupt them. I think everyone else here must naturally do the same because everyone is really mature (except for some of the higher level bad apples that everyone's already aware of, just a few select names that I won't mention).

Anyway, I really hope FFXIV has a RP server, and I wish you luck in trying to get the RP community recognized. I know that a dedicated server is something that a lot of people would want, and I'm sure Eorzea will be great for RPing

Good luck :)
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Valid points but I completely disagree with your first paragraph. I've been involved with FFXI's RP for over 5 years and it was definately small in Vana'diel. Maybe not in other MMO's but definately in FFXI. Roleplay is like an art. Simply talking like a taru sometimes is fine and dandy but that is the very tip of the iceberg when it comes to RP. It's much deeper and much more complex. Many of us agree that RP guilds/linkshells were -very- necessary. Just as necessary as social linkshells. Like I said, it's fine to simply talk like your character but it's hardly satisfactory to a large portion of avid RPers.

As I said in the above post, every single RP group across the servers in FFXI supports this endeavor so far, which only adds to the argument that RPers feel RP specific groups are indeed necessary. You said that you've RPed some but I really get the feeling you haven't dealt with the same stimga many of us have, or at least not to the same degree. We deal with "lolrp" jokes more than we should. Heck, I even witnessed two of my former fellow RP members show up on YouTube as a joke by some passerby. And I can tell you that the video was very direspectful and rude. Suffice to say, it was pretty humiliating for those two members. These are the kinds of stigmas we deal with and this is one of many many reasons we feel the need to unite.

There's also the issue of when RP guilds fall apart (which eventually happens). What happens to those hardcore RPers when their RP guild dies? Chances are they won't jump servers at that point to join another RP group somewhere else. So instead, they either give up RP or quit the game entirely. I know this because I've watched it happen year after year after year first hand. And now Vana'diel's RP community is tinier than ever before.

Also, you made a comment about RP linkshells never being successful? That's very wrong info. There are several that outlived endgame/social linkshells. Several of the communities from the servers I listed in the first post are prime examples.

Regardless, thank you for your overall support though. We definately need all we can get. ^^

Edited, Jan 6th 2010 1:31pm by ZarikOfSylph
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#6 Jan 06 2010 at 12:56 PM Rating: Default
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As for what I said about RP linkshells not working... I was referring to my server, specifically. I play on the same server as xxsidekickxx and whenever I've seen players try to form a RP LS it has died fast.

Like I said, I know that what I described isn't the same as what you would consider RP, but I just always felt like I/many other players still passively roleplayed to an extent while playing FF. Just my opinion.

Also, I understand how immature players could interrupt RP/disrespect RP players, which is why I agreed that an RP server would be necessary. (I did note that non-RP players are one of the biggest issues)
It's not exactly their fault (they didn't sign up to RP) but when people are disrupting you/harassing you (YouTube videos..?) it would definitely be an issue

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#8 Jan 06 2010 at 1:27 PM Rating: Good
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I'd definitely be interested in joining an RP server. In FFXI I was never exposed to it in-game, so it's not like I think the community is small or anything. I've seen some great YouTube videos, and I especially love the rendition of the FFVI opera if that counts as RP (and it should). I'm hopeful about the chance to RP in FFXIV, and getting a whole server with people with the same interests would be great.
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Heck, I even witnessed two of my former fellow RP members show up on YouTube as a joke by some passerby. And I can tell you that the video was very direspectful and rude. Suffice to say, it was pretty humiliating for those two members. These are the kinds of stigmas we deal with and this is one of many many reasons we feel the need to unite.


No disrespect to any individuals in this post, but if the members find it humiliating why are they participating? I agree the people who are not participating can be harsh, but as such it should as well be semi-expected and brushed off.


There should be a dedicated server to RP, just as most newer MMOs have dedicated RP servers. If SE does not do this they will probably lose market share and customers, so from a business perspective it makes enough sense (if there is enough community to populate an RP server).
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No disrespect to any individuals in this post, but if the members find it humiliating why are they participating? I agree the people who are not participating can be harsh, but as such it should as well be semi-expected and brushed off.


Oh, it wasn't over the content of their RP. The person who published that video added a bunch of negative commentary to make it look like they were cybering or something when in fact they were just RPing having a drink at the tavern. The video has since come down (I think) but it was quite childish and humiliating.

I also wasn't aware that Pandemonium had attempted creating RP groups. I don't know the situation there but if I had to guess, it was likely a lack of core dedicated members. Like all other shells/guilds, RP groups also need a core group of full-time members to survive. You may have had bad luck with getting the types that saw the group as a side-shell to pop in once every blue moon. Rp groups definately need at least a handful of members who commit to that one guild full time as opposed to dividing their time between it and other social/event shells. That's not to say there's no room for other shells. You just need enough dedicated members that stick around, which sometimes just comes down to luck.

There's actually mixed reactions to an "official" Rp server designated by SE. While it would seem like a good move, there are also drawbacks. For starters, many people will see the "Roleplay" attached to the server name and be intrigued over the fact that there's a "special" server. This could cause a lot of non-Rpers flooding in just for the heck of it. I actually recall such an experience when I tried EQ2. I got on the official RP server and realized that not everyone RPed and quite a few didn't even know what it was. So we'll see what happens in that regard.
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#11 Jan 06 2010 at 3:04 PM Rating: Good
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Although I'm not really a roleplayer,
I think you've done a good thing here, and I'd like to see you take it to next level.

The success of your endeavor rests largely on the people whose interest you can stir and how well you can manage that resource. I think so far, your off to an excellent start. It's great that you already have a plan in place for getting a community consensus on an RP server in the event SE doesn't provide one.

But, I think there's something to be said for attempting to go through the motions of formally suggesting a RP server to Square-Enix. It might feel silly in that 'writing to your congressman' kind of way, but you'd be surprised at the power of a well worded letter with the weight of warm bodies behind it.

Although something like a suggestion box is pretty unlikely to be setup given SE's stance on Official Forums, that's not to say you don't have any means of contacting the company. The FFXIV Support center is already up and running, although general inquiries has a very challenging character limit, your website will probably do alot of the talking for you. You can also try to contact the support center of Square Enix Inc., SE's North American holding at support@square-enix-usa.com, but that's more of a stretch as those general addresses tend to be more lipservice than customerservice.

In either case, leveraging the weight of your numbers on a coordinated contact campaign is something I believe you should consider.

Edited, Jan 6th 2010 4:17pm by Zemzelette
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With all due respect to the role players, i would completely go insane if i role played my character for god knows how many years i'll be playing this game. I don't know how you guys do it. I mean i can see how it can be fun but maybe in short bursts (I've never tried it, maybe FFXIV will be my gateway).
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#13 Jan 06 2010 at 5:46 PM Rating: Decent
Hello, first of all I'd like to say I fully support this, as well as the idea of an RP server. I myself have just begun an RP Linkshell (http://knightlife.heavenforum.com) for FFXIV. I fully support all of the ppl wishing to RP to band together, I feel that'd be the best, and the funnest way to do it.

Edited, Jan 6th 2010 6:54pm by DragoonCaliber
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With all due respect to the role players, i would completely go insane if i role played my character for god knows how many years i'll be playing this game. I don't know how you guys do it. I mean i can see how it can be fun but maybe in short bursts (I've never tried it, maybe FFXIV will be my gateway).


"To each his own" "Don't knock it 'til you've tried it". I could go on but you get the point. As long as the people doing it are happy and they can make others happy in the process, its all good :) I know I've gotten my fair share of smiles with someone semi RP.


In regards to those who join the RP server without knowledge, it may ruin immersion...but if the majority of the players are RP, now they are the ones on the outside like you have seem to stated (sorry if I put words in your mouth). Accept them for what they have to offer to the game and let it be. If they don't get a favorable response, hopefully server transfers are available for them. For those wanting to ruin your experience as a role player /ignore is always an option.

At the end of the day it seems the one thing to be learned....tolerance.
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With all due respect to the role players, i would completely go insane if i role played my character for god knows how many years i'll be playing this game. I don't know how you guys do it. I mean i can see how it can be fun but maybe in short bursts (I've never tried it, maybe FFXIV will be my gateway).


We usually don't RP -all- the time. During leveling, missions, etc, we tend to go OOC (out of character) more often than not. There's a proper time and place for it and even the most hardcore RPers know that.


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#17 Jan 06 2010 at 8:01 PM Rating: Decent
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The problem with people that RP is that they are either exclusive, reclusive, etc.

Try being inclusive.

Maybe I'm just a douche / nub / jerk / ignorant person etc, but RP politics? standards?

This sounds worst than playing CS with an English major.

In all seriousness though, creating a standard for RPing in a server, for example, may drive away more people than it invites. In the same way in the real world where a small church can support and help the community around them regardless of religious belief, you really should think about incorporating into your community instead of becoming reclusive and pushing away others.

again, not to be argumentative, but your attitude doesn't seem to be for inviting and playing a game with others, but almost seems like an exclusive club where a bunch of jerks suddenly say you are out and shun you.

The only thing that i can describe to get across the indignation that one might feel is like being corrected for using there instead of their on accident in an FPS game.

Gather too many people that take things seriously together, and you'll have a war on your hands that will end everything you hope to accomplish.

I'm not trying to tell you how to do things, but that is how I read this.
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The problem with people that RP is that they are either exclusive, reclusive, etc.

Try being inclusive.


We're quite inclusive actually. Most of our linkshells have very lenient recruitment standards, allowing just about anyone willing to RP to join and come and go as frequently or infrequently as they wish. Perhaps you can make suggestions as to how we could be more inclusive though. I think making a public post on 3 premier fansites is far more inclusive than just sending out emails and messages across existing RP forums only.

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Maybe I'm just a douche / nub / jerk / ignorant person etc, but RP politics? standards?


No different than endgame politics. Shell #1 wants to be better than shell #2. Politics happen as a result. It's quite basic and real (unfortunately). It would be great if such issues didn't exist and we all just skipped around happily all the time. But that's just not how things work. As for standards? Yeah, we have standards. Most roleplaying groups heavily frown upon someone who types like an 8 year old as one instance.

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In all seriousness though, creating a standard for RPing in a server, for example, may drive away more people than it invites. In the same way in the real world where a small church can support and help the community around them regardless of religious belief, you really should think about incorporating into your community instead of becoming reclusive and pushing away others.


On the contrary. And I know this by experience. There is no Rp server in FFXI. As a result, there are also few active RPers. Other MMO's who do have centralized RP servers tend to have much healthier RP communities overall, even if other problems exist as a result. We only get "reclusive" when people push us into it. I think the very fact that I made this a public post instead of just sending it out to known RPers shows how open we're trying to be this time around.

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again, not to be argumentative, but your attitude doesn't seem to be for inviting and playing a game with others, but almost seems like an exclusive club where a bunch of jerks suddenly say you are out and shun you.


Please point out how my attitude projects this. No, seriously. If I'm coming off as rude or "a jerk," I'd like to know how so I can apologize. I'm only trying to raise awareness of our existence and pushing for a stronger and more united community. I really don't understand your hostility towards that. If I did something wrong, please point it out and I will apologize though.



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I'm not much into RP, but I understand a lot of people are. Rate up for showing some initiative.
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I could get into RPing. The problem is that I want to play with my friends, both RL and online-- and I'm not sure how into it they'd be. But I can understand the appeal and would love a more accessible RP community.
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You know I'm with you, Z. Looking forward to this.
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In order for SE to support roleplayers fully, they have to take into consideration a few things... Namely, access to animations. If I want to swing a sword at my fellow player, I would like to see it. The /me or /em actions only go so far and this IS a visual client. If /me or /em suit you just fine, look into a chat-based roleplay area. It's cheaper and more widely available. Of course, FFXIV could be the server upon which to recruit for roleplay... but I feel the system really needs to expand if we are to accept it as a medium.

We'd need impact and/or spell animations, a wide range of emotions to choose from with sustained durations (rather than a quick shrug or glance), and preferably a movable pose or customizable body animation... er, within limits, of course. That last one might be a bit much (especially with people who'd use such opportunity to make something crude and offensive), but I believe that the above-mentioned ideas are all necessary to make the game roleplayer friendly.
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Bah! Animations! Why, I remember sitting at home on windows 95 using the built in telnet program connected to a Redwall MUCK pretending to be an otter where I'd type in commands and emotes to communicate with other people. There were no graphics and often times people would overwrite what you were saying since the client was stupid.

Anyway. Good luck with your roleplaying community - I hope it goes well for you all and maybe I'll pop in and say "hi". Unfortunately I don't think that MMOs are that condusive for roleplaying because you're limited by the game in what you can do. You can't pretend you're a dragon slaying general because the game says you are level five and the only thing you've slayed is a few dozen bunnies. You can't have a grand campaign to go slay the Dark King (or what have you) because you don't have the people who are outfitted properly or the discipline to take him on. Well, you can, but you just look silly when you get called out on your claim of being a dragon slayer and you can't prove it.
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Unfortunately I don't think that MMOs are that condusive for roleplaying because you're limited by the game in what you can do. You can't pretend you're a dragon slaying general because the game says you are level five and the only thing you've slayed is a few dozen bunnies. You can't have a grand campaign to go slay the Dark King (or what have you) because you don't have the people who are outfitted properly or the discipline to take him on. Well, you can, but you just look silly when you get called out on your claim of being a dragon slayer and you can't prove it.


I think the fundamental flaw with that logic is based on a mistake that many MMOs make-- that for some reason you must start out as a pansy with no backstory to speak of.
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Good games are subjective like good food is subjective. You're not going to seriously tell me that there's not a psychological basis for why pizza is great and lutefisk is revolting. The thing about subjectivity is that, as subjects go, humans actually have a great deal in common.
#25 Jan 07 2010 at 7:40 PM Rating: Good
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That's when you give in and make a character with a backstory that is beleivable for the position you are starting in.. It's equaly silly for someone playing a PnP game to make a starting character who is claimed to be a dragonslayer but is somehow on par with the other starting characters.
Yep killed a dragon but a troll just turned you into kibble...

It's always been my opinnion that character should be beleivable to the world they are in as well as beleiveable to what they are capable of doing.
Dragonslayer maybe not, but perhaps the bratty child of a famouse warrior who single handedly slew the dragon, good luck, everyone expects great things of you... let them down and you may find that you have few friends :P.

If your character isn't beleivable... no one's going to beleive it.
#26 Jan 08 2010 at 3:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I must say, as one of the post incline, passive Roleplayers who do know, like, and want to roleplay, also want to play the game with friends that necessarily do not look for the full extend experience:

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I could get into RPing. The problem is that I want to play with my friends, both RL and online-- and I'm not sure how into it they'd be. But I can understand the appeal and would love a more accessible RP community.


In that note, I believe that we loose much of the diversity and creativity when we try to adjunct like-minded people into one RP server. Although it wasn't fully RPed, I have gotten into serious and fun RP with people that didn't know what RP meant beside being to the right of MMO when describing Final Fantasy XI.

Indeed, the roleplay thematics or structure would be more solid and smooth with a RP server where people are less timid to go all out and more likely to take a response, but then, where will you find yourself singing to a newbie who your are helping to get from Windurst to Selbina and he actually starts singing back while he spammed the new "/hurray motion" Macro you just showed him; moreover, you end up marching along and five other passengers in the boat you just took clap at you and the new adventurer that never heard about RP.

My overall suggestion is indeed have an RP server, but instead of Official, and unofficial RP server where neither Core Players, RPers, nor the most likely merchants of all trades that makes the living easier are threatened nor excluded. Just like NPC, NonRPers, in my opinion, are a good influence for the living community in MMOs

I heard about Sylph too late in my FFXI life but basically it was called the RP server even by non RPers. I believe a fame like that is better than a "ServerName RPserver" below "ServerName NonRP"
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#27 Jan 08 2010 at 7:43 PM Rating: Decent
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I hope your community works out for you! You sound dedicated so I think it will work out great for you and your members!
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I used to roleplay in a game called Never Winter Nights and in tabletop pen and paper rpgs. I don;t really roleplay anymore. That said I wish you luck. If you haven't done so already you may want to make a group in the square enix members site here http://member.square-enix.com/na/ and you never know maybe I'll try flexing those atrophied rp muscles of mine when FFXIV comes out. If I do I'll come looking for you.

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#29 Jan 12 2010 at 10:34 AM Rating: Good
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The RP Coalition is proceeding ahead of schedule so far. We could actually be looking at a possible 70-80+ RPers -before- we even go public. I'll post a link to the coalition site in a second update later on. My guess is that we'll be ready to launch in another 4-5 weeks. I'm first gathering all the known RP groups beforehand.

In regards to the character discussions...it's fairly difficult to make your character some kind of famous dragon slayer or member of a royal family. That's why we tend to RP them just as they are: adventurers/mercenaries/etc. That's not to say they don't have extremely unique backgrounds because they all do. Some may play the part of a pirate, others a knight working for a specific city-state. The possibilities really are endless despite limitations of the game lore.
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#30 Jan 12 2010 at 10:59 AM Rating: Default
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My character was on Pandemonium and I couldn't find any active RP shells.


This is why every RP thread is fail. The forums make it sound fun and all but good luck finding anyone in the game to actually follow through.
#31 Jan 17 2010 at 12:48 AM Rating: Good
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I hope the market system helps to reinforce RP too, if there are specific servers. If there are prats that go on RP that just don't RP (and do quite the opposite), you can choose not to buy their goods :P
#32 Jan 17 2010 at 2:38 PM Rating: Decent
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First, I disagree with your first statement. The roleplaying community was not small. The difference between FFXI and other MMORPGs was that roleplayers didn't need to create separate societies for themselves.
I noticed that on FFXI, at least during it's earlier years, people naturally fell into their characters... Tarutarus really acted like Tarutarus might act, Mithras did the same, etc. Even Galkas sometimes acted more 'protective' in a way, lol. It may not have been 'proper' RP sessions, but I do believe there's always been roleplaying going on in the world of Vana'diel. I've always said this is why 'RP' Linkshells were never really successful.


I just wanted to post to agree with this - not necessarily as evidence of why there are no RPers in FFXI. I'm just relieved to see that someone else picked up on this, too! I was a taru, and I was pretty hyperactive - running in circles while our puller was out looking for a kill, getting teased by galkas, etc. I remember my friend who played a mithra had guys all over her, and would sometimes flirt a bit to get some help. I think being limited to one character made people choose races that tended to go well with their personalities, and so a sort of unintentional roleplaying was born from that.
#33 Jan 24 2010 at 10:38 AM Rating: Decent
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I am not a hardcore RP but it will be fun to RP.
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February 15th: The RPC (Roleplay Coalition) for FFXIV will be opening to the public. If by some rare chance SE updates the site that Sunday or Monday (highly unlikely), we'll postpone going public for another day or two.

More details about the RPC and what we'll be doing will be posted along with the link on the 15th. Looking forward to seeing future prospective roleplayers and RP supporters very soon! Hope to get support from both Zam and SE for this difficult endeavor!
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