Forum Settings
       
This Forum is Read Only

STO betaFollow

#1 Jan 12 2010 at 4:26 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
27 posts
So star trek has their beta already!!! where is ours darn it!
#2 Jan 12 2010 at 5:21 PM Rating: Decent
***
2,169 posts
Jan 12th now. The beta invites began 17th, so I'd say give it 5-10 more days. Just a hunch / guess.
____________________________
FFXIV - Currently Playing on Selbina Server
Name: Itachi Akatsuki (THM)
LS: UnitedBBQ

www.guildwork.com - best guildhosting site period

FFXI - Pingpong - Retired 2007
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?6988
75rng | 75nin | 75blm | working on RDM
RNG Gration solo: http://pingpongwww.livejournal.com/15532.html
#3 Jan 13 2010 at 12:52 AM Rating: Default
Scholar
27 posts
where does this info come from?
#4 Jan 13 2010 at 1:51 AM Rating: Decent
Scholar
***
1,842 posts
STO is open beta because it going to be release in less than a month. FFXIV is still months away from release.
____________________________
FFXIV Dyvid (Awaiting 2.0)
FFXI Dyvid ~ Pandemonium (Retired)
SWTOR Dy'vid Legacy - Canderous Ordo
#5 Jan 13 2010 at 1:30 PM Rating: Good
Scholar
**
349 posts
STO has had a stupidly short closed beta period and a 1.5 years of dev time. Thats not the model I want SE to be following. I'd rather wait and get a GREAT game later then have a mediocre game now.

Edited, Jan 13th 2010 2:38pm by mezlabor
____________________________
That was no hemroid doctor. That was an alien hoobajoob
#6 Jan 13 2010 at 4:24 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
*
123 posts
Quote:
STO has had a stupidly short closed beta period and a 1.5 years of dev time. Thats not the model I want SE to be following. I'd rather wait and get a GREAT game later then have a mediocre game now.


We waited 3 years for FFXIII, and it's not getting the reviews of a game that took 3 years of meticulous work. Just food for thought. :)
#7 Jan 13 2010 at 4:36 PM Rating: Decent
****
9,043 posts
Sloannn wrote:
Quote:
STO has had a stupidly short closed beta period and a 1.5 years of dev time. Thats not the model I want SE to be following. I'd rather wait and get a GREAT game later then have a mediocre game now.


We waited 3 years for FFXIII, and it's not getting the reviews of a game that took 3 years of meticulous work. Just food for thought. :)


What is it getting? Don't tell me bad reviews... XII got good reviews and that game was a steaming pile of ******
____________________________
Likibiki ~ 75 WHM ~ 75 SAM ~ 75 THF ~ 75 SMN ~ 74 NIN
Pandemonium Server, FFXI. Retired. Gone but not forgotten.
Cailey ~ 90 DNC ~ 90 RDM ~ 90 BLM
Asura Server, FFXI. Adventurer Extraordinaire.
#8 Jan 13 2010 at 5:00 PM Rating: Good
***
2,084 posts
Never understood the XII hate. I liked it almost everything about it (except Vaan.)


Immediate closed beta will likely be Japan-only, to get the most serious gamecrashing bugs out of the way quickly and without having to deal with language barriers for the next phase of beta.
____________________________
What would happen if I hired two private investigators to follow each other?
#9 Jan 13 2010 at 5:18 PM Rating: Decent
*
132 posts
Not bashing FF series in anyway, but I hear my friend saying FF13's got a mediocre review. Also, he is claiming that some sites state that FF12 was actually more entertaining.

I'm pretty sure, that's not true...

But if it is, then oh lord, I had such high hopes for 13. If they're saying 12 is better, than I'd probably shoot myself because that's what I felt like doing while playing 12.
____________________________
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

Arthur Schopenhauer
German philosopher (1788 - 1860)

#10 Jan 13 2010 at 5:44 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
**
630 posts
AliensAreHere wrote:
Not bashing FF series in anyway, but I hear my friend saying FF13's got a mediocre review. Also, he is claiming that some sites state that FF12 was actually more entertaining.

I'm pretty sure, that's not true...

But if it is, then oh lord, I had such high hopes for 13. If they're saying 12 is better, than I'd probably shoot myself because that's what I felt like doing while playing 12.


I haven't played so I can't testify to this guy, but he seems to give a pretty well rounded review:


Quote:
Sup y'all, J Crazy here.

I live in Japan and got my hands on a copy the morning it came to shelves here. I stood in line, bought the companion book and broke all land speed records getting home. I threw the blu-ray in my new thinner PS3 (I had recently bought it in preparation for the FFXIII release) and was floored as the credits rolled in front as an enormous and jaw-dropping, beautiful world unfolded a la montage in the background.

I sat for hours that day, jaw still securely anchored to aforementioned floor, playing, saving, loading to watch cut scenes again, playing more, dying, rinsing and repeating.

I was truly amazed. The characters emotions feel real, the graphics are nothing short of revolutionary art and the battles are challenging from the beginning (no killing lvl 1 sewer rats to level anymore, children).

Then the honeymoon ended. I must put a HUGE GINORMOUS asterisk before the follow critique because I have only just gotten to Chapter 8 and have all of 8 through 11 to play. Now that we have that out of the way here is my beef with what could have been a 41/40 game to change the games are made and enjoyed.

1. The leveling system sucks. Plain and Simple. You earn Crystal Points depending on how well you do in battle. The quicker you kill the baddies the more points you accumulate. You then can use these points in the Crystarium to level each character's role. Each character has a set of roll's they can act out in an encounter: attacker, blaster, defender, jammer, enhancer, and healer. If you don't use these points in the Crystarium you don't level. This is a break from the traditional RPG leveling standard of kill baddies, gain XP, level, allocate skill points to buff character. Sounds inovative, right? Sounds pretty rad, right? No.

The leveling system is tiring at best and a real buzz kill at best. To be effective in battle and prepared for bosses when the arise you have to constantly allocate your Crystal Points lest you wipe miserable after 20 minutes fighting a boss only to reload and realize you have 3000 (a lot) Crystal Points to spend on buffing HP, atk., def., magic (blaster) atk, etc. This get old, very quick.

After you've accepted that you have to apply your own XP, sorry CP to your level and can finally just get into the game another disappointment slaps you (the RPGer who has been waiting for years for this game) in the face. This game is linear like a bobble head punching game. You fight the baddies, you watch the eye-popping cut scenes, you beef up your weapons with parts and level your characters. OK, great. So what's next? Maybe, all this changes from Chapter 8. Perhaps there is a boat load of hidden, "must think hard or read on-line walkthrough" content that I missed through my rush to this point. But I have a hard time believing that when the maps are so limiting. There is no room to explore. There are no mazes, no sprawling landscapes you have to spend 5 minutes running across to get to a Chocobo cave. Again, this might all change. But even if this all changes in the next few chapters one question remains unanswered: why the wait?

I want my epic story. I want to feel the emotion that seemingly only Japanese RPGs can bring to the table. I want the cut scenes and graphics. I want to fail time and time again at a sub-quest until I realize that I need to put on the ring that stops random enemy encounters (remember that cave in FFX-II). I want items and hidden areas and tasks other than killing flying motorcycles. I want my open world and righteously bodacious battles that leave me sweating after. In other words: I want it all. And after three years, a bunch of money and hype that makes the new Brad Pitt movie look like a mom-and-pop fried chicken knuckle bar opening, I want it perfect.

I'm sorry FFXIII waiters and breath-holders. This is one that just can't get my nod. Too limited. Too easy. Too shallow.

If you want a forever-playable RGP go play World of Warcraft.
If you want open world go play Fallout 3.
If you want stupid rad action go play God of War (really, any of them) or Modern Warfare (again either will do).
If you want crazy graphics and just plain fun, pop in Assassin's Creed II or Madden 10.
But, if you want all of this and the in-depth story that FFVII, Morrowind and even ZORK had, I beg you seek out another game and plead and wait for that phoenix to rise.
#11 Jan 13 2010 at 6:33 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
**
746 posts
Quote:
If you want a forever-playable RGP go play World of Warcraft.
If you want open world go play Fallout 3.
If you want stupid rad action go play God of War (really, any of them) or Modern Warfare (again either will do).
If you want crazy graphics and just plain fun, pop in Assassin's Creed II or Madden 10.
But, if you want all of this and the in-depth story that FFVII, Morrowind and even ZORK had, I beg you seek out another game and plead and wait for that phoenix to rise.

This section here makes me not trust his review.
#12 Jan 13 2010 at 7:29 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
*
123 posts
Quote:
What is it getting? Don't tell me bad reviews... XII got good reviews and that game was a steaming pile of sh*te.


Well Famitsu gave it a 39/40, but I really don't count Famistu grading a SE game as a review because they definitely work with each other some how. Other reviews starting flowing out and I believe the first 3 english scores were all 7/10. I'm sorry, you can say all you want how a 7/10 is considered "good" by gaming standards, but for a FF game that is a total disappointment. Honestly we have been waiting way too long for this game to get anything short of a 9. The Last Remnant got a 7 for crying out loud, and while it's not bad it's not a memorable FF game. FFXIII has:

Extreme Linearity, makes FFX look like an MMO
Poor character development/over-dramatic story
Full health after battles
Very few towns
Combat involves no strategy
No money system
You can only control 1 character, and you don't get to pick!
Very little in the way of upgrading armor/weapons based on money/skill

Still a buy for me, but I am actually quite amazed SE could ***** up like that with the game being announced 3 years ago.
#13 Jan 13 2010 at 7:31 PM Rating: Excellent
Mistress of Gardening
Avatar
*****
14,661 posts
STO is being released in like a week, it's totally not SE slacking. lol
#14 Jan 13 2010 at 7:51 PM Rating: Default
**
437 posts
Quote:

What is it getting? Don't tell me bad reviews... XII got good reviews and that game was a steaming pile of sh*te.


Well Famitsu gave it a 39/40, but I really don't count Famistu grading a SE game as a review because they definitely work with each other some how. Other reviews starting flowing out and I believe the first 3 english scores were all 7/10. I'm sorry, you can say all you want how a 7/10 is considered "good" by gaming standards, but for a FF game that is a total disappointment. Honestly we have been waiting way too long for this game to get anything short of a 9. The Last Remnant got a 7 for crying out loud, and while it's not bad it's not a memorable FF game. FFXIII has:

Extreme Linearity, makes FFX look like an MMO
Poor character development/over-dramatic story
Full health after battles
Very few towns
Combat involves no strategy
No money system
You can only control 1 character, and you don't get to pick!
Very little in the way of upgrading armor/weapons based on money/skill

Still a buy for me, but I am actually quite amazed SE could ***** up like that with the game being announced 3 years ago.


surely 13 can't be this bad right? this has me worried not jes about 13 but 14 as well..


Edited, Jan 13th 2010 7:46pm by Ruam

Edited, Jan 13th 2010 10:11pm by Ruam
#15 Jan 13 2010 at 11:33 PM Rating: Default
Scholar
***
1,842 posts
Well people on the Star Trek Online Beta are trying to compare it to WoW. I'm mean really? It's are far left field to WoW as you can get lol
____________________________
FFXIV Dyvid (Awaiting 2.0)
FFXI Dyvid ~ Pandemonium (Retired)
SWTOR Dy'vid Legacy - Canderous Ordo
#16 Jan 14 2010 at 10:56 AM Rating: Decent
*
117 posts
Quote:
Well people on the Star Trek Online Beta are trying to compare it to WoW. I'm mean really? It's are far left field to WoW as you can get lol


WoW is the standard MMO. I don't mean it's the pinnacle we should be comparing it to, I mean it is what people are used to and is now mostly vanilla and generic in the public's eye. As different games come out, people will compare them appropiately.
#17 Jan 14 2010 at 11:24 AM Rating: Decent
Scholar
**
746 posts
After playing this beta for a couple hours, this game sucks.

-Teg out.
#18 Jan 14 2010 at 12:14 PM Rating: Default
***
2,169 posts
If you guys don't believe this game sucks, read this review:
http://tobolds.blogspot.com/2010/01/star-trek-online-beta-review.html

The worst part is there is almost no verbal interaction between players.
____________________________
FFXIV - Currently Playing on Selbina Server
Name: Itachi Akatsuki (THM)
LS: UnitedBBQ

www.guildwork.com - best guildhosting site period

FFXI - Pingpong - Retired 2007
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?6988
75rng | 75nin | 75blm | working on RDM
RNG Gration solo: http://pingpongwww.livejournal.com/15532.html
#19 Jan 14 2010 at 12:43 PM Rating: Decent
****
9,043 posts
odinpingpong wrote:
If you guys don't believe this game sucks, read this review:
http://tobolds.blogspot.com/2010/01/star-trek-online-beta-review.html

The worst part is there is almost no verbal interaction between players.


Wow.

I'll wait to see if they implement more content (fix stuff, add more stuff, repeat)... but it really does sound bad.
____________________________
Likibiki ~ 75 WHM ~ 75 SAM ~ 75 THF ~ 75 SMN ~ 74 NIN
Pandemonium Server, FFXI. Retired. Gone but not forgotten.
Cailey ~ 90 DNC ~ 90 RDM ~ 90 BLM
Asura Server, FFXI. Adventurer Extraordinaire.
#20 Jan 14 2010 at 1:10 PM Rating: Default
I tried the Beta last night. It's horrible. I'm not talking about the bugs, since that is to be expected. That is what beta is for. I just mean to say that...well... it's just bad.
#21 Jan 14 2010 at 1:37 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
**
349 posts
Hence why I said I'd rather see SE take their time and put out a well built well thought out product then the garbage Crypic studios vomits on us. Champions, STO and their next mystery mmo this company is awful. They need to stop making games.
____________________________
That was no hemroid doctor. That was an alien hoobajoob
#22 Jan 14 2010 at 5:05 PM Rating: Decent
***
1,508 posts
Kirbster wrote:
Never understood the XII hate. I liked it almost everything about it (except Vaan.)

That was the same feelings I had on the game. Now FF X on the other hand... there's a FF I can hate <.<

The linear zones were a large part of that, hearing that XIII is similarly linear is a huge let down.
____________________________
.:Seraph:.
Blu90/Drg90/Dnc90/Mnk90/Nin90/Rng75/Sam75/Bst66
Pld64/Cor50/Rdm50/War45//Thf38

Square Enix when ToAU first went live wrote:
The TP information included in "physical" blue magic spells is
only applicable when using the job ability "Chain Affinity."
#23 Jan 14 2010 at 6:25 PM Rating: Good
*
124 posts
STO was **** when I played the GameExpo demo in October. The stands were empty after dinner. Seriously, I think it must be a fan-driven game. Seeing as beta is free, try it for yourself, rather than just listening to other people.

FFXII was a good game. It had a fair set of bonus content, albeit quite linear. Ivalice is a well-designed world with lots of backstory to it. The only thing that irked me was how little we learned about Rozarria.
#24 Jan 14 2010 at 11:00 PM Rating: Decent
**
566 posts
SommeTheManthra wrote:
Seeing as beta is free



Beta is free, but Alla wants people to sign up for premium to give them a key?

/dubious
#25 Jan 14 2010 at 11:31 PM Rating: Good
***
1,159 posts
I happen to be really enjoying STO. I've only played for a number of hours but so far it has my two thumbs up. It's actually one of the most challenging MMOs I've played in some time.
#26 Jan 16 2010 at 5:53 AM Rating: Decent
Scholar
**
746 posts
Quote:
I happen to be really enjoying STO. I've only played for a number of hours but so far it has my two thumbs up. It's actually one of the most challenging MMOs I've played in some time.

The only challenge I saw was putting up with the slow crappy animations and sluggish ship controls and bland environments & a character creation that gives you a billion option yet still look the same in the end.
#27 Jan 19 2010 at 2:04 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
*
180 posts
renasci wrote:
Kirbster wrote:
Never understood the XII hate. I liked it almost everything about it (except Vaan.)

That was the same feelings I had on the game. Now FF X on the other hand... there's a FF I can hate <.<

The linear zones were a large part of that, hearing that XIII is similarly linear is a huge let down.


I found the story in FFXII bland and uninteresting, and the lack of a main character made the game feel as though it was lacking focus. Not to mention the fact that by the end of the game most of my characters were nearly identical and played automatically through the gambit system. I was far less invested in FFXII as I had been in past FF games, and that made the game feel mediocre. FFX had an interesting story, a main character (albeit a whiney one), and an involved battle system.

I fear FFXIV is going to end up a wash at the end for character development like FFXII was for me, with the ability to learn and use everything out in the field. Then not only will you need good gear and one job leveled, but the elitists will expect you to have multiple jobs leveled for versatility.
#28 Jan 19 2010 at 4:38 PM Rating: Excellent
Avatar
**
660 posts
CaptainTeg wrote:
Quote:
I happen to be really enjoying STO. I've only played for a number of hours but so far it has my two thumbs up. It's actually one of the most challenging MMOs I've played in some time.

The only challenge I saw was putting up with the slow crappy animations and sluggish ship controls and bland environments & a character creation that gives you a billion option yet still look the same in the end.


^This.

All MMOs have grind. Shocking, I know. However, the best MMOs are able to disguise the grind in activities that are fun, and lessen the over and over and over again feeling that causes one to burn out and throw their computer out the window after performing the same action 1,000,000 times in order to get one item. STO does NOT conceal the grind well. You do the same missions, fight the same enemies, do the same things over and over again, incessantly.

I've played to level 11 in the open beta (Lt. Cmdr.) and got my new free ship, but it's still the same stuff, just in a higher tier. There's nothing really in this game to keep me interested in any kind of long term situation. Maybe with time the game will mature and fill out with different sorts of activities, but right now, it's all grind.
#29 Jan 19 2010 at 5:37 PM Rating: Decent
***
2,080 posts

I've been playing the STO beta as well and am enjoying it. I like the Episodes a lot because they're not like the regular kill a bunch of mobs or collect a bunch of stuff quests. At least so far. I've been having issues with ship controls, it is really complicated and takes a light touch. I've only done a few ground away team stuff and it seems pretty much on par with other MMOs for that kind of thing.

The graphics intenisity of the game is ridiculous. I can play it on my laptop, which is 4 years old, but it is lagged to pieces and nearly impossible to steer either ground or space. I also play it on my year old desktop which had an awesome graphics card and processor for one year ago and I can only play it on the lowest graphical settings.
____________________________
Meara -> Meare
Ramuh -> Bahamut
#30 Jan 19 2010 at 7:36 PM Rating: Decent
*
109 posts
I really hope that the new KOTOR MMO will be more of a success than Galaxies was or STO is turning out to be, seems like we just can't get a good MMO out of a monumental sci-fi franchise at this point.
____________________________

Kashius wrote:
Things WoW did not invent:
...
- Fun
#31 Jan 20 2010 at 9:12 PM Rating: Default
45 posts
FFXIII gets horrible horrible review for its story and even the most diehard FF hardcore fans here agree.

There are a rare few that really loves FFXIII tho so keep your hopes up.

I myself totally hated FFXIII. I got bored after only a day or 2 playing it. I stick with the game all the way through and I'm telling you it's not a pleasant experience. I had to FORCE myself to play the game. Considering I waited in line for 6 hours to get the game it's really a huge let down.
#32 Jan 20 2010 at 10:00 PM Rating: Good
Scholar
*
123 posts
Quote:
FFXIII gets horrible horrible review for its story and even the most diehard FF hardcore fans here agree.

There are a rare few that really loves FFXIII tho so keep your hopes up.

I myself totally hated FFXIII. I got bored after only a day or 2 playing it. I stick with the game all the way through and I'm telling you it's not a pleasant experience. I had to FORCE myself to play the game. Considering I waited in line for 6 hours to get the game it's really a huge let down.


Look ever further past your 6 hour wait and notice the 3.5 year wait all of us fans have endured. It's incredibly frustrating to see a game that was looking like the next great MMO that would set the bar for decades, to get bashed on important elements such as story and gameplay.
#33 Jan 21 2010 at 9:51 AM Rating: Good
**
423 posts
okay first of all this is a STO online thread not FFXIII... can we not?

Yeah i would rate STO as... below average. It does some cool stuff, graphics are... okay but laggy. I don't know if it's the look ahead that is killing the game or just certain textures and stuff, either way it's not great.

If the game wasn't Star trek which i loooove, it would just be another bad nameless game but otherwise i have to give it a bit. Also as much as people might hate me saying this, i rate gameplay'ish to similar in what i played in City of Heroes/Villans. It wasn't great but it is for sure an acquired taste.

The ship battles are okay but seem slow, sluggish and not very much more then "shoot shoot shoot..." and hope they die first. There isn't huge strategy from what i have played so far and it seems like a complete waste of time and just "filler" for the game... i dunno maybe just me.

I also dislike the HUD and pictures. When you accept a quest it sometimes has loud obnoxious voice acting to accompany it and other times it's just silent with text with a poor quality 2d picture in front of you. Is it too much to expect even a 3D model of this supposed existing person? They could have even worked it into your communicator and made it more immersive so they talk while you fight or something but no... everything seems slow and dragged out.

Overall i would suggest if you can getting in on the beta or a free trial on release to give it a shot but i bet 9 out of 10 people won't like it. This game could have been huge being Star Trek and all but it was just executed poorly.
#34 Jan 21 2010 at 11:53 AM Rating: Decent
*
181 posts
A Klingon went into a bar and he sat down. He took out from a tiny cage a cootie, a cockroach and a tiny chus'ugh (a musical instrument). The cockroach picked up the chus'ugh and began to play music. The cootie began to sing. The bartender's eyes widened in surprise. "What an amazing thing!" he said, "I've never seen anything like it." "Well, don't get too excited," replied the other. "It's not as amazing as it looks. The cockroach is a ventriloquist."
#35 Jan 22 2010 at 3:00 AM Rating: Excellent
Sage
**
372 posts
STO is the pits. I played for about three days and came to the conclusion that - it wasn't even and MMO.
#36 Jan 22 2010 at 3:32 AM Rating: Good
**
572 posts
I have a golden rule when it comes to new MMO releases nowadays, _always_ have extremely low expectation, even for FFXIV, that way you will never be dissapointed and if the game actually surpasses your expectation then it will be a pleasent surprise. If the game on the other hand fail then you won't get dissapointed ^^
#37 Jan 22 2010 at 9:36 AM Rating: Decent
Scholar
Avatar
***
2,536 posts
Maldavian wrote:
I have a golden rule when it comes to new MMO releases nowadays, _always_ have extremely low expectation, even for FFXIV, that way you will never be dissapointed and if the game actually surpasses your expectation then it will be a pleasent surprise. If the game on the other hand fail then you won't get dissapointed ^^


Sorry for taking this off-topic, but I can't resist. Speaking of having low expectations, I had VERY low expectations for the Dragonball live action film. But, oh god, that **** was even worse.
____________________________
FF11 Server: Caitsith
Kalyna (retired, 2008)
100 Goldsmith
75 Rng, Brd
Main/Acc
Exp/Hybrid
Str/Attk
Spam/Others
#38 Jan 23 2010 at 11:09 AM Rating: Good
Sage
**
372 posts
Quote:
Beta is free, but Alla wants people to sign up for premium to give them a key?

/dubious


You mean

/con

Sign up for a fileplanet.com account and you can get a Beta key for STO, no charge.
This forum is read only
This Forum is Read Only!
Recent Visitors: 30 All times are in CST
Anonymous Guests (30)