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#1 Jan 20 2010 at 8:43 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm worried about the PS3, in my case a brand new PS3 slim model without a warranty. I know i'll have my PS3 on for atleast 10 hours a day playing ffxiv so i'm thinking that it will die in just a few months.

There's issues with the PS3 (older and newer) overheating, this prolonged overheating eventually destroys the hardware of the PS3 and it dies in some point in time due to this. Both the older and newer models use ceramic thermal paste which is a very bad paste that's used, i've heard that it leaks out, cakes up around the side of your cpu/gpu and it evaporates renderring your system without any type of thermal paste at all. This in turn is what destroys the hardware.

Should i take apart my PS3 right away and change the thermal paste to arctic 5 or just leave it be and hope for the best? I don't have any idea of how to do that but there's some guides online that i can follow but i really don't want to mess anything up and kill my PS3. How long does everyone think it will last being on for 10 hours a day?

Edited, Jan 20th 2010 9:52am by KeeperOfTheStaff
#2 Jan 20 2010 at 8:52 AM Rating: Decent
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There's nothing to worry about. I have had my 1st run ps3 on 8-12 hours while i was sleep.

Edited, Jan 20th 2010 10:01am by FFXIIsamu
#3 Jan 20 2010 at 9:12 AM Rating: Good
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Well I heard of a lot of trouble from the xbox 360, not much from the PS3, so I am not too worried. If you fell safer putting Artic 5 in it, just do it, but remove and clean the old paste WELL, or the thermal result will be worst.

And if you play 10 hours a day for months in a row, if your ps3 break, you'll see some sun on your way to buy a new one :)

Edited, Jan 20th 2010 10:21am by MrBarjavel
#4 Jan 20 2010 at 9:14 AM Rating: Good
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Actually it will be fine. the only thing to worry about was the cpu life on the old PS3's and even that was minimal.

If you look on your PS3 you will have a "life on PS3" i think it is called. It is folding@home. Basically when you run it you do cancer research, perform complex calculations and network with thousands of other ps3's/computers. They wouldn't openly put this software on and expect you to run your PS3 non-stop with it if it was going to wreck it...

But yeah unless there is some unforseen flaw with the new slims, which i doubt, you will never have an issue.
#5 Jan 20 2010 at 9:21 AM Rating: Good
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It seems the PS3 expends heat really well. There was actually an article (or video can't recall) showing a PS3 KILLING a Xbox 360 because the expended heat over heated the 360, and RRoDed it.
#6 Jan 20 2010 at 9:38 AM Rating: Decent
The only thing you have to worry about regarding the PS3 is possibly the drive. A lot of people (including myself) have had to replace the drive on some of the older model PS3s. I'm not sure if the PS3 Slims have this problem at all. Sony has always had a rocky reputation when it comes to cd/dvd type drives in my experience.
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#7 Jan 20 2010 at 10:21 AM Rating: Good
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Well, I know for myself, and everyone I know, my PS3 is almost never off, (had same one since release), only issue I've had with it, is the lens in the BlueRay Drive (very easy to replace). Just make sure your PS3 is in a well ventilated area, and keep it dust free. If you are still worried about your PS3 overheating, you can always try picking up one of these (if they are available for the slim).
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#8 Jan 20 2010 at 11:09 AM Rating: Decent
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The main plague of the ps3 is the Ylod (Yellow light of death) which is when the lines between the cpu and the gpu get to hot and basically loosen up. this happened to me about 1 week ago. this is not like the xboxes red light of death. the ylod happens after years of prolonged use and wear and tear(Had my ps3 since it came out). best thing you can do to try and prevent this, is to keep your ps3 in a cool well ventilated area.

P.S. Forgot to say that this can be easily fixed by yourself. You'll need a heat gun that can get up to 700F degrees, which is like 20 dollars. T10x 3" torx head ***** driver and a stick of thermal compound, which you can get from radio shack. then you can watch this guide
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#9 Jan 20 2010 at 12:53 PM Rating: Default
I would say that the only thing you have to worry about is the hard drive.
I have 3 60 GB PS3 plus an 80GB for me wife.
2 of my PS3 are new and the 3rd looked like it was badly abused with heavy scratches and aged marks all over it.
Restored the case with Novus Plastic Polish (with a Micro Fiber Cleaning cloth) and sent it in because it had a few disk read issues. Got it back in 10 days and now it runs like a beast.

The 80 GB one was brand new which i got my wife in dec 08.
Recently, she shows me that her PS3 wont boot up or do anything but state that there is no hard drive in the system.
Im thinking how can this be?
I replace the hard drive with one of my other PS3s and still nothing.
This is what i learned:
Cant use another PS3 hard drive in another PS3 because they are digitally coded or something.
Apparently her mom was nearby and heard a bang of some sort and saw her nephews running out the room.
What i think happend is that they tried to play with the PS3 and tipped it over (letting it slam down on it's side) which wouldn't break a PS3 but corrupt or break a hard drive when its in use.

This happend to me with a PS2 also.
The hard drive was in use and the PS2 slammed on it's side from the upright standing position and the hard drive got killed.

Don't know about the slim edition but as far as i know a PS3 is hard to break. Its the disruption of a hard drive you would have to worry about.
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#10 Jan 20 2010 at 12:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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Illicious wrote:

This is what i learned:
Cant use another PS3 hard drive in another PS3 because they are digitally coded or something.


Common, in your playstation manual there is directive about how to change the drive, so this information is not true!

Their is even benchmarks on the net to see if putting a SSD in a PS3 boost up the performance so it accept almost any kind of 2.5" hdd.

Edited, Jan 20th 2010 2:08pm by MrBarjavel
#11 Jan 20 2010 at 1:05 PM Rating: Decent
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To be safe you should probably get two additional PS3s to have on the hand if it fails at a crirical point playing FFXIV. And you better get the extra consoles right away, who knows if Sony is still making them in 6 months when the game is out...
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insanekangaroo wrote:
To be safe you should probably get two additional PS3s to have on the hand if it fails at a crirical point playing FFXIV. And you better get the extra consoles right away, who knows if Sony is still making them in 6 months when the game is out...


Ha, nice throw-back.

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#13 Jan 20 2010 at 1:53 PM Rating: Good
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If your worried about the ps3 overheating. Buy a cooler for it that goes on the side. I have one for my original 60gb ps3. It uses it own power(does not plug into the ps3 but into another outlet). It turns on when the ps3 heats up enough, and turns off when it cools down.

[link=http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=63658[/link]

This should be fine. Looks like its for the slims(think the fat and slim side is different)

Edit: Just saw what manam posted. That one in his is the same 1 I have for my ps3. Works just fine(but think only works on the sides of that fat ones.) Correct me if i'm wrong.

Edited, Jan 20th 2010 3:05pm by Zalongamer
#14 Jan 20 2010 at 4:35 PM Rating: Good
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If you're worried about it overheating, don't put it in a box when it's on. I've heard countless people ***** about their PS3 overheating when they first came out and every single person had it in some stupid entertainment center that prevented any air flow. In short, the PS3 does not have overheating issues. I've heard there can be an issue with the optical drive, but as others have said, it's easily repairable.
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#15 Jan 20 2010 at 4:40 PM Rating: Decent
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PS3 is fine and don't have to worry about it overheating. Like others have said don't keep your system in some entertainment center that is all in cased I have multiple ps3's and 2 of them are the original 60gigs still chugging along with multiple hours logged on them from being left on for days at a time. I am going to use my slim for XIV though just because it generates less heat and uses less power.
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why the f%$%# soo many people have many PS3 ???
#17 Jan 20 2010 at 6:32 PM Rating: Good
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My PS3 has been running folding@home 24/7 for a month and a half, probably longer. The fan has kicked on high a couple times and then back to normal. Keep it in a well ventilated area and wipe the air vents every week or two. I have 3 cats so hair does block the vents. Simple maintenance is all that is needed.

If anything throw a small fan on it to flow air on the front where the intake vents are if your paranoid. But there really is no need besides wiping the vents every week or two.
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If these suggestions aren't enough, you could try water cooling or oil immersion. You'll be the envy of most of the PS3 modders.
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#19 Jan 20 2010 at 6:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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KeeperOfTheStaff wrote:
I'm worried about the PS3, in my case a brand new PS3 slim model without a warranty. I know i'll have my PS3 on for atleast 10 hours a day playing ffxiv so i'm thinking that it will die in just a few months.

There's issues with the PS3 (older and newer) overheating, this prolonged overheating eventually destroys the hardware of the PS3 and it dies in some point in time due to this. Both the older and newer models use ceramic thermal paste which is a very bad paste that's used, i've heard that it leaks out, cakes up around the side of your cpu/gpu and it evaporates renderring your system without any type of thermal paste at all. This in turn is what destroys the hardware.

Should i take apart my PS3 right away and change the thermal paste to arctic 5 or just leave it be and hope for the best? I don't have any idea of how to do that but there's some guides online that i can follow but i really don't want to mess anything up and kill my PS3. How long does everyone think it will last being on for 10 hours a day?

Edited, Jan 20th 2010 9:52am by KeeperOfTheStaff


I'd be more worried about your brain frying than your PS3 if you play that much.
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#20 Jan 20 2010 at 9:11 PM Rating: Good
You cannot use an already used PS3 hard drive in another PS3 because each PS3 uses shared keys between the PS3 and hard drive.
Only way is to reformat the hard drive and lose the original keys.

If the hard drive is still good you can perform a backup, if damaged then no luck.
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#21 Jan 20 2010 at 10:52 PM Rating: Default
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Dammit, So i have to reinstall ff11 and redo everything i did on my other ps3? Thats just great. is there no way to transfer data from the old hard drive to the new?
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#22 Jan 21 2010 at 6:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yes you cant take your HDD out of 1 ps3 and put it in another, but you can buy a external HDD, and do a system back-up on that. Then on the new ps3 with the harddrive in, plug ur external hdd into your ps3 and do a transfer(Should work. Myself never had to do a restore yet with my external HDD yet). Remember a lot of saved games are copy protected and wont be able to use on a different ps3 no matter what.
#23 Jan 21 2010 at 7:59 AM Rating: Decent
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I've been playing my PS3 for 6-7 hours straight very often this past month. Still working fine. I have a dedicated fan just for blowing it tho.
#24 Jan 21 2010 at 1:31 PM Rating: Good
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I have had my 1st run ps3 on 8-12 hours while i was sleep.


Wow. It was instilled in me to save every watt of electricity when I was a kid. Using up 1.6 (or 2.4) kilowatt/hours to leave a PS3 idle to me is like leaving the shower on all day while you're at work.

Edited, Jan 21st 2010 12:40pm by baelnic
#25 Jan 21 2010 at 6:31 PM Rating: Decent
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MrBarjavel wrote:
why the f%$%# soo many people have many PS3 ???


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#26 Jan 22 2010 at 7:20 AM Rating: Decent
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I have one of the older PS3's (60gig with backwards compatability) and honestly have it running most of the time. It has never once given me an issue and it is about a year old now. As long as you keep it in a fairly open area and blow out any dust once every few weeks, I don't think you will have much to worry about. As for the newer models, I had thought I read something about them using a slightly better fan... I really don't think there will be much concern there.

mind you, I live in an area where 35C is about as high as it ever gets outside, and right now during winter, my house sits at 19-20C so there is no additional heat really to add to the system. Warmer areas might suffer more.
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#27 Jan 22 2010 at 7:57 AM Rating: Decent
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I was originally planning to play on PC, but after reading up, price comparing, and checking the boards I've decided to go PS3. I figure that, unless a benchmark comes out and my very old computer does surprisingly well, then I'd have to buy a new computer to run it on PC. But since the only thing I would need to upgrade my system for is FF14, I decided it was more economically viable to buy a PS3, a new pc might cost me 1200 or more whereas a ps3+game+keyboard+cooling unit would only come to about 600 or 700ish and I'd get a blue ray player, so I think due to money issues, I gotta go PS3. But if they do another benchmark and my system, against all odds and defiant of gods will, actually scores high, I'll not spend any extra money at all, I'll make someone else buy me the game for a birthday or something, lol.
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