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#1 Jan 23 2010 at 9:03 PM Rating: Good
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*Edit* Here's the steam community page I set up: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FinalFantasyXIV

Please get some people on it :P It would be great to have 100~ people on the community page at least. Would make for interesting group chat, and I wouldn't mind gaming with anyone from here.



I've been thinking. SE has made a large number of the titles they own available through steam in the past year.

My speculation is that they are testing the steam client with the ffxi release to see what kind of support they would get with it, and how things would work overall.

In the end, I've not had a problem with the steam client when running ffxi. The only people I've seen having problems with it have had issues other than steam.

As far as friendliness to a more world wide audience, steam is one of the best online game retailers in the world. I know people that use it from North and South america, Indonesia, Philippines, Middle east, etc. It supports dozens of languages. I think if they need a few hundred thousand people to stress test the beta, beta access through steam for everyone would be a great way to get it.

As I am writing this:

236,309 In-Game | 1,483,837 Online

I would love for SE to patch into this audience. It wouldn't take much. Just a title page announcement of beta access.


Here are some things I would love to see:

1) Open beta available through steam.
2) Official steam group for FFXIV. (this would allow people to find others that play through steam, as well as it would give a community chat room :D)
3) Steam communities are a great way to stay organized, and the system has been used by many hard core gamers to keep track of everything from fps scrims to community brawls in their games.
4) If players who play final fantasy get on FFXIV and tell their friends to join cause it's a free beta, and their friends love it, there will probably be a sale right there. How many people play on steam that love FF games? and how many of them have friends?...second thought, maybe this won't add too many sales :D (jk)

but seriously, I want to see steam and SE team up to make it so that FFXIV will have at least 1 million players from day 1, and only go up from there.

SE has made me confident that they will deliver on my high expectations from them. Very few of their games have let me down. Even the games that do give me the let down are still set the standards for minimum effort to put into any rpg to call it a good rpg.

For a company that tries to never do the same thing twice, they certainly have a tough job ahead of them. I just honestly think that outreaching to a gaming community like steam is quite possibly the best way to let everyone experience their awesomeness.

Edited, Jan 24th 2010 12:41pm by MetalSmith
#2 Jan 23 2010 at 9:17 PM Rating: Default
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Wth is steam?
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#3 Jan 23 2010 at 9:22 PM Rating: Decent
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#4 Jan 23 2010 at 9:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Steam account is free.

Download it.

Love it.

never go to walmart again for games :D

No, seriously, steam is why no one sells PC games anymore hardly.

Free play and special deal weekends are the best.

60-90% off many games during Christmas season.

I got every unreal game and expansion for like $12 or $15 on sale when they were doing some sort of promotion. It's awesome :D.

Preorder deals can be good as well.

Edited, Jan 23rd 2010 10:27pm by MetalSmith
#5 Jan 23 2010 at 9:29 PM Rating: Decent
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A steam partnership with SE would be fantastic.

Imagine the relative ease of patch updates.


However, it would largely depend on the usage of steam in Japan (which is still pretty significant, and the cost may go up, as Valve usually requires a cut of the dough for using steam.)

But it'd certainly be a great way to get a lot of people to notice XIV.



Edit: Why am I defaulted o_O

Edited, Jan 24th 2010 6:32pm by Kirbster
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#6 Jan 23 2010 at 9:40 PM Rating: Default
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A steam partnership with SE would be fantastic.

Imagine the relative ease of patch updates.


However, it would largely depend on the usage of steam in Japan (which is still pretty significant, and the cost may go up, as Valve usually requires a cut of the dough for using steam.)

But it'd certainly be a great way to get a lot of people to notice XIV.


The cost could be made up by reducing the need for packaging and such.



I'm not sure if they would use steam to patch directly though. Most MMO's still use their own launcher to launch the game and install patches.

Would be cool, as it would auto update when available and when not in game. This would mean you wouldn't have to get home, start up some launcher, and then wait 2 hours for it to finish the update. It would probably be done when you get home :D.

Also, steam doesn't have adds. No advertisements except for the store page, and all of those adds are for games on the store :D. It's just so wonderful.
#7 Jan 23 2010 at 9:47 PM Rating: Decent
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im throwing my support for this idea in. i love steam, and aside from the odd need to verify the integrity of a games data cache (which ive only had to do twice over the course of fifteen games) ive had no problems with it.

but yeah, if you dont own steam you need to get it now. as noted the client is free to DL, and its a great way to create a group that allows you to keep in contact with people from a specific game without actually having to play that game. as far as deals go, there was recently (it may still be active) a company of heroes deal where you could get all three games in the CoH series at 75% off. now, if youre a fan of RTS games, and especially if you like Relic, youd love CoH. yes, it's set in WWII, a very VERY overdone setting, but its done very well, with four unique armies (two axis, two allied) and a lot of strategic elements that are, as far as im aware, more or less unique in the RTS genre.
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#8 Jan 23 2010 at 10:12 PM Rating: Default
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I've set up a steam community page for ffxiv. I'm going to PM the mods and ask for permission to associate the page with them and ask if they want any administrative rights to control their association.

Anyhow, my steam ID is below, add me and I'll put you in the group :D.


STEAM_0:1:2309242

also, is there a picture that I can use for the group page without breaking copyright laws? :D
#9 Jan 23 2010 at 11:09 PM Rating: Default
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yea i hope that ffxiv uses steam. I have a buddy list/tons of achievements recorded on steam and ffxiv on it would make it even better. Also the pre-loads before launches of patches/the actual game would freakin sweet.
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#10 Jan 24 2010 at 1:06 AM Rating: Default
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I don't like steam. Slows down my system start up considerably, somehow, and having to uninstall/reinstall it and all the games every time it decides to be a ***** isn't very much fun either.
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#11 Jan 24 2010 at 1:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Right click the steam Icon

go to Settings

Go to the interface Tab

Uncheck the start on startup.


>_>''

again, if steam is causing major problems for your PC, There are probably other issues besides steam :P
#12 Jan 24 2010 at 1:42 AM Rating: Default
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Well, I know how to make steam not execute on startup, but if FFXIV uses it, then I might as well have it on all the time. Also, since my job involves me troubleshooting computers, and I've built several, and I've been using them since I was 6, I'm pretty well covered on what's wrong with my computer. Besides all that, this is a clean OS install and has little on it besides steam, so it's definitely steam.
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#13 Jan 24 2010 at 1:46 AM Rating: Default
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Having more options is always a plus to me , ppl who hate Steam for whatever reason can use normal launcher while Steam addicts enjoy the new option.(and whats comes with it).
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#14 Jan 24 2010 at 3:00 AM Rating: Good
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Well, I know how to make steam not execute on startup, but if FFXIV uses it, then I might as well have it on all the time. Also, since my job involves me troubleshooting computers, and I've built several, and I've been using them since I was 6, I'm pretty well covered on what's wrong with my computer. Besides all that, this is a clean OS install and has little on it besides steam, so it's definitely steam.


As a fellow computer techie that has also built dozens of high performance rigs; steam does very little to slow a system, with the exception of a second or two of a little lag on system startup while trying to load the store while Windows is starting regular startup processes. (With XP and W7)

Steam isn't perfect though, and I think it could probably stand to leave a little bit less of a memory footprint. But overall, no performance hit whatsoever, in my experiences.

Edited, Jan 24th 2010 1:06am by Kirbster
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#15 Jan 24 2010 at 10:55 AM Rating: Default
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As a fellow computer techie that has also built dozens of high performance rigs; steam does very little to slow a system, with the exception of a second or two of a little lag on system startup while trying to load the store while Windows is starting regular startup processes. (With XP and W7)
Yeah, very true. However, when it takes my system 5 seconds to startup after I log in, 2 seconds is a long time.

It's a moot point, if I had to use it, I would. I'd just rather not. Mainly because of the uninstall/reinstall problems I've had with past games on steam. And I've had time where even that didn't work, and I couldn't join any servers in CSS for like 3 months. I'd just rather see SE do a system they maintain so if something goes wrong, it's in their best interests to get it fixed as soon as possible.
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I'd love to stick around, but I've got someone to meet.
and I will put my best foot forward.
and I'll thank god I made it out of there
on the day when my new friends come.
#16 Jan 24 2010 at 11:39 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm not saying SE should let valve handle that stuff, just allow the game to be updated with patches like other games are.

SE would still handle the content servers and such. They could also have their own launch program to assess the integrity of your game files and update them manually.

but I would love for my game to update while I'm at work or something so when I get home at night, I don't have to set it to DL something for 2 hours, then go to sleep, get up, and go back to work without having been able to play because of a bad schedule and updates :D.

Anyhow, here is a steam community page for anyone interested:

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FinalFantasyXIV


Thank you pikko for the permission to link the wikibase and forums to it :D.

I would love to see people use the steam group, and I'd love to game with other people waiting for the release. Another nice feature with steam is that it tracks the groups game playing week by week, showing what games people in the group are most often playing. It's a great feature if you want to find a good game and good people while you are waiting for the release :)

#17 Jan 24 2010 at 1:33 PM Rating: Good
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Just about everything is on Steam these days, so this seems likely. I'm definitely looking forward to getting the expansion packs via digital distribution... it would be great to actually be able to buy them on launch day, and I have absolutely zero interest in owning a disc for something like that.

I'm less thrilled about the extra layer of DRM and the extra startup time Steam adds. For that reason I might prefer something a little less bloated like Direct2Drive. Still, it's not like it will be even a tenth as bad as PlayOnline was.
#18 Jan 24 2010 at 6:24 PM Rating: Good
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ugh, POL was horrible. i remember the horror of random DC's, where you would have to frantically relog into POL, then log into FF11, then finally log into your character before reloading into the game world, usually to find you and your party members eating dirt.
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