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#52 Feb 07 2010 at 3:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Basically what he means in the simplest of terms is:

If I'm on Voice Chat on FFXIV and invite a lets say Japanese-speaking Party member to my PT, there automatically is a language barrier, possibly forcing people to PT within their language group.

On the other hand, with the Auto-Translate function and option to type, then the language issues can easily be overcome with no problem.

A little better?
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#53 Feb 07 2010 at 4:03 PM Rating: Good
Skeptic wrote:
Basically what he means in the simplest of terms is:

If I'm on Voice Chat on FFXIV and invite a lets say Japanese-speaking Party member to my PT, there automatically is a language barrier, possibly forcing people to PT within their language group.

On the other hand, with the Auto-Translate function and option to type, then the language issues can easily be overcome with no problem.

A little better?


So you are of the impression that having voice chat means you can't type anymore?

Protip: Integrated voice chat or no: most people still stick to text in small group PUGs. I've played two games with integrated voice chat...even LOTRO where the quality of voice chat was better than that of WoW...had use of voice chat in small group content being the exception rather than the rule.

The bottom line is this: There's already going to be a language barrier no matter whether there is voice chat or not. The auto-translate function addresses that. Adding voice chat on top of that isn't going to change anything. The big difference will come at endgame when you've got to try and accommodate voice chat across two, potentially three platforms. Without integrated voice chat, you've not only got a language barrier in the game, you've got a platform barrier. Integrated voice chat addresses that.

So you've got auto-translate text features to address the language barrier and integrated voice chat to address the platform barrier. Looks like a win-win to me.
#54 Feb 07 2010 at 4:46 PM Rating: Decent
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I agree, it won't matter if voice chat is added, some players will avoid the rest of us like the plague. Unfortunately it can't be the RMT, but it's that hail from that other Asian country. /sigh So I feel you should have the option if you want to use voice chat or not. I'm sure most NA/JP parties won't use voice chat, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be there. Language is easier to speak than write/read anyways especially a foreign one.
#55 Feb 07 2010 at 5:02 PM Rating: Good
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I agree, it won't matter if voice chat is added, some players will avoid the rest of us like the plague. Unfortunately it can't be the RMT, but it's that hail from that other Asian country. /sigh So I feel you should have the option if you want to use voice chat or not. I'm sure most NA/JP parties won't use voice chat, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be there. Language is easier to speak than write/read anyways especially a foreign one.


I agree. It's something that's better to have than to not have. If you have it but don't want to use it, you don't have to. If you don't have it but want it (or find yourself in a group that requires it), you're screwed. I know there were a lot of endgame groups in FFXI that collaborated across the language barrier, but for the most part people gravitated towards shells that consisted of people from the same predominant language.
#56 Feb 07 2010 at 6:58 PM Rating: Decent
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AureliusSir the Irrelevant wrote:

I know there were a lot of endgame groups in FFXI that collaborated across the language barrier, but for the most part people gravitated towards shells that consisted of people from the same predominant language.


Well that wasn't the only reason. Most European players would of probably joined more established NA LS's if the time zone wasn't an issue. I remember how much the GMT time zone sucked when I was living in Germany. I had to be careful when I called friends and family in the US because it could easily be 3am in the morning. A 7 hour time difference is a quite a big deal. I agree though, JP's and NA's mostly kept to their own groups. Only in the largest HNMls's did I ever see a good mix of NA,EU, and JP players.

Edited, Feb 7th 2010 6:58pm by ShadowedgeFFXI
#57 Feb 11 2010 at 10:04 AM Rating: Decent
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How come when I read the interview, I get out of it that the beta will be locked at 10% content. Just like how Star trek online only opened a part of their game for beta.


What FFXI release/expansion ever had the entirety of the content available at start? Pretty much only the mini expansions.

Even WoW / LoTRO does the same thing.

"Oh Hai! even though you paid for ToAU, you can't actually progress through the entire content of this expansion and all it relates to. You'll have to wait until after we release the next expansion to actually get to the conclusion (while paying your sub) kthx for your monies"
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