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#1 Feb 09 2010 at 10:39 AM Rating: Default
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Logo art hidden Heart&Arrow?

as the title suggests there seems to be a Heart with a dagger/sword threw it, and a large arrow pointing to it, hidden in the FFXIV main logo, has anyone else noticed this,
even tho it falls on a sunday!lol(possible Valentines day release?) <- clearly a Joke
*just wondering if it would be an added bonus to the already known theory of body position and mob*



The symbol used to represent the heart is known throughout the western world as signifying love or affection. However, other countries have different meanings for this popular sign. Sweden associates the heart symbol with toilets and defecation!

This sign commonly used to represent the heart has actually been around for thousands of years. Have you ever wondered where it came from? The symbol, it turns out, is actually a combination of other ideograms. It incorporates the symbols for fire/flight (from the middle ages) along with its equivalent counterpart from the open sign structures. The heart symbol also incorporates the symbol which represents togetherness.

The heart symbol has a meaning amongst religions as well. Among Christians, it stands for charity and hope. Buddhists, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Taoists, and Celts see the symbol as having a positive meaning as well. Some signs are commonly associated with the heart symbol. *For instance, a heart with an arrow through it represents directed energy, flow, or penetration (a relationship with Cupid, god of love)*.The combination of the star and heart signs represent happiness or joy.

The heart symbol has so many meanings and has been around for thousands of years, but why has it become such a popular sign? It's popularity most probably stems from the romantic view that early cultures had of the heart. The heart to them was not simply a mechanical pump but the center of all thought and emotion.

Some of the most profound, endearing, and touching words in novels are based around the heart. Below is a quote from an excellent book by Dr. Nuland:

"Some of us have hearts of gold, or of stone,; warm or cold; we open our hearts to certain people, let them look into our hearts to join our hearts to theirs, but non of these seemingly surgical undertakings requires the use of an operating room to make it happen; the same is true for touching the heart, stirring it, breaking it or mending it; we continue to live through we have given our heart to another, or perhaps realize that it belongs to Daddy; the heart may be worn on the sleeve or leap unbidden into the mouth- it is a movable beast. " - by Sherwin B. Nuland, The Mysteries Within













Edited, Feb 9th 2010 2:49pm by Darkpsychosis
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in other news: the logo has a "pike" weapon; and the "Pike" left Fort Bellefontaine near St. Louis, Missouri on July 15, 1806, with a detachment of 20 soldiers and the 50 freed prisoners; thus FFXIV will be released July 15 of this year! (but only to the military and convicts)



Seriously, do you just slam your face into the keyboard, select "I'm feeling lucky" then pretend whatever comes up is FFXIV related? What you're circled doesn't even look like a heart. Kneecap, shoulder pad, helmet, or side boob maybe, but not heart.

Edited, Feb 9th 2010 12:04pm by shintasama
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Im just curious if anyone has figureed out the secert message that one of the devs said that was in the 8 minute game footage yet?
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Seriously, do you just slam your face into the keyboard, select "I'm feeling lucky" then pretend whatever comes up is FFXIV related? What you're circled doesn't even look like a heart. Kneecap, shoulder pad, helmet, or side boob maybe, but not heart.


That is almost exactly what I was going to say before I read that. Took the words right out of my mouth. xD

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Doesn't look like anything significant to me. I think you're reading into things way too much here.
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Im just curious if anyone has figureed out the secert message that one of the devs said that was in the 8 minute game footage yet?


The massive upskirt shot. =P
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this post means we're really craving some new info.
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i couldnt even find the heart.......


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No possible way to release by valentines day...no announcements...no proof...this picture isn't even of a heart...
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#10 Feb 09 2010 at 1:40 PM Rating: Good
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i couldnt even find the heart.......



...save the image, then go back into it and magnify where the main character in the foreground is, enlarge near his left armpit (should already be a black box surrounding the arrow pointing UP at the heart with the sword/dagger in it)



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<3 seems some FFXIV followers HATE anything to do w/valentines day, LOL <3
Because there is no way it could have anything to do with you making nothing but ********* waste of space, pananoia/baseless speculation threads.
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<3 seems some FFXIV followers HATE anything to do w/valentines day, LOL <3

Because there is no way it could have anything to do with you making nothing but bullsh*t, waste of space, pananoia/baseless speculation threads.



pananoia - verb, The sequence of actions taken by an individual who sees their image on a video display and tries to locate the camera recording it.

I'll admit I had to look this word up, under the assumption you couldn't spell paranoia pretty sure I was right and your spell checker geeked out on you, either way it made me laugh. Thanks ^^

anyway, yes I posted the thread because I was bored and you clearly didn't get my attempt at humor... but I still found the hidden arrow and heart Interesting so I thought I'd share it =D

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this speculation is getting out of hand
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last time I checked it said Final Fantasy XIV General Discussion Forum

when they add one that reads Elitist FFXIV facts only I'll be sure to steer clear
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this speculation is getting out of hand


I'll say. This is a little over the top, even for the amount of time we have gone with no information.

Are any of the premier sites even in touch with SE? Has anyone like, mentioned that maybe this isn't the best way to drum up excitement for the game among the masses? People come to the forums looking for information, and this is the dribble that they find because there is literally nothing from SE themselves but confirmation of reworked FFXI character models.

It's beyond disappointing.
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with a name like darkpsychosis, you sure are a dandy.

I do see the heart though.

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I sense hidden "Fail" in this Thread...
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Anything speculation just isn't worth reading on every Final Fantasy XIV forum. The discussion about things that have been confirmed however is worth reading. When ffxiv service starts up there won't be a sliver of speculation, it'll just be discussion about things that are in the game as it should be.

Don't worry about getting rated down, i get defaulted for every post i make on this forum and i think some of those were decent posts. Watch me get defaulted for this one aswell, status on a forum doesn't really mean anything.. It's not like everyone on this forum will know the name of your character in ffxiv so you're good.

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Some people on here just rate down without posting anything. It's why the system's so flawed, you can just red arrow and move on...

Personally, I think the lack of information and no beta release yet mean one of two things:

1) Development has hit a big setback.
2) We will hear a lot more, about a month after XIII is released in NA/EU.

I can see why they aren't releasing any info. But they should give fans something. I already know people who are losing interest because of SE's flawed marketing strategies.

All people would need is a few pics of mobs, or of a city, or even descriptions of weapons or something... just to keep people talking about it.

Threads like this are a little bit daft, but let's face it, there isn't much else going on in here. Everything that we've seen/heard so far has been talked about until the proverbial cows come home...
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with a name like darkpsychosis, you sure are a dandy

aww...gee thanks, I think your swell too!
I went with Darkpsychosis for XI after reading all seven of Stephen King trilogy The Dark Tower, a group of novels that redefines epic hybrid Sci-Fi imo.

seemed fitting after I initially visited Southern San d'Oria for my first time, so I deleted the auto generated name and began my journeys =)

was a take off from a poem "Childe Roland to the Dark Tower Came" by Robert Browning, also a very good read! Shakespeare thought so aswell...

Childe Roland To The Dark Tower Came
by Robert Browning
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I.

My first thought was, he lied in every word,
That hoary cripple, with malicious eye
Askance to watch the working of his lie
On mine, and mouth scarce able to afford
Suppression of the glee, that pursed and scored
Its edge, at one more victim gained thereby.

II.

What else should he be set for, with his staff?
What, save to waylay with his lies, ensnare
All travellers who might find him posted there,
And ask the road? I guessed what skull-like laugh
Would break, what crutch 'gin write my epitaph
For pastime in the dusty thoroughfare,

III.

If at his counsel I should turn aside
Into that ominous tract which, all agree,
Hides the Dark Tower. Yet acquiescingly
I did turn as he pointed: neither pride
Nor hope rekindling at the end descried,
So much as gladness that some end might be.

IV.

For, what with my whole world-wide wandering,
What with my search drawn out thro' years, my hope
Dwindled into a ghost not fit to cope
With that obstreperous joy success would bring,
I hardly tried now to rebuke the spring
My heart made, finding failure in its scope.

V.

As when a sick man very near to death
Seems dead indeed, and feels begin and end
The tears and takes the farewell of each friend,
And hears one bid the other go, draw breath
Freelier outside, (``since all is o'er,'' he saith,
``And the blow falIen no grieving can amend;'')

VI.

While some discuss if near the other graves
Be room enough for this, and when a day
Suits best for carrying the corpse away,
With care about the banners, scarves and staves:
And still the man hears all, and only craves
He may not shame such tender love and stay.

VII.

Thus, I had so long suffered in this quest,
Heard failure prophesied so oft, been writ
So many times among ``The Band''---to wit,
The knights who to the Dark Tower's search addressed
Their steps---that just to fail as they, seemed best,
And all the doubt was now---should I be fit?

VIII.

So, quiet as despair, I turned from him,
That hateful cripple, out of his highway
Into the path he pointed. All the day
Had been a dreary one at best, and dim
Was settling to its close, yet shot one grim
Red leer to see the plain catch its estray.

IX.

For mark! no sooner was I fairly found
Pledged to the plain, after a pace or two,
Than, pausing to throw backward a last view
O'er the safe road, 'twas gone; grey plain all round:
Nothing but plain to the horizon's bound.
I might go on; nought else remained to do.

X.

So, on I went. I think I never saw
Such starved ignoble nature; nothing throve:
For flowers---as well expect a cedar grove!
But cockle, spurge, according to their law
Might propagate their kind, with none to awe,
You'd think; a burr had been a treasure-trove.

XI.

No! penury, inertness and grimace,
In some strange sort, were the land's portion. ``See
``Or shut your eyes,'' said nature peevishly,
``It nothing skills: I cannot help my case:
``'Tis the Last judgment's fire must cure this place,
``Calcine its clods and set my prisoners free.''

XII.

If there pushed any ragged thistle-stalk
Above its mates, the head was chopped; the bents
Were jealous else. What made those holes and rents
In the dock's harsh swarth leaves, bruised as to baulk
All hope of greenness?'tis a brute must walk
Pashing their life out, with a brute's intents.

XIII.

As for the grass, it grew as scant as hair
In leprosy; thin dry blades pricked the mud
Which underneath looked kneaded up with blood.
One stiff blind horse, his every bone a-stare,
Stood stupefied, however he came there:
Thrust out past service from the devil's stud!

XIV.

Alive? he might be dead for aught I know,
With that red gaunt and colloped neck a-strain,
And shut eyes underneath the rusty mane;
Seldom went such grotesqueness with such woe;
I never saw a brute I hated so;
He must be wicked to deserve such pain.

XV.

I shut my eyes and turned them on my heart.
As a man calls for wine before he fights,
I asked one draught of earlier, happier sights,
Ere fitly I could hope to play my part.
Think first, fight afterwards---the soldier's art:
One taste of the old time sets all to rights.

XVI.

Not it! I fancied Cuthbert's reddening face
Beneath its garniture of curly gold,
Dear fellow, till I almost felt him fold
An arm in mine to fix me to the place,
That way he used. Alas, one night's disgrace!
Out went my heart's new fire and left it cold.

XVII.

Giles then, the soul of honour---there he stands
Frank as ten years ago when knighted first.
What honest man should dare (he said) he durst.
Good---but the scene shifts---faugh! what hangman hands
Pin to his breast a parchment? His own bands
Read it. Poor traitor, spit upon and curst!

XVIII.

Better this present than a past like that;
Back therefore to my darkening path again!
No sound, no sight as far as eye could strain.
Will the night send a howlet or a bat?
I asked: when something on the dismal flat
Came to arrest my thoughts and change their train.

XIX.

A sudden little river crossed my path
As unexpected as a serpent comes.
No sluggish tide congenial to the glooms;
This, as it frothed by, might have been a bath
For the fiend's glowing hoof---to see the wrath
Of its black eddy bespate with flakes and spumes.

XX.

So petty yet so spiteful! All along,
Low scrubby alders kneeled down over it;
Drenched willows flung them headlong in a fit
Of route despair, a suicidal throng:
The river which had done them all the wrong,
Whate'er that was, rolled by, deterred no whit.

XXI.

Which, while I forded,---good saints, how I feared
To set my foot upon a dead man's cheek,
Each step, or feel the spear I thrust to seek
For hollows, tangled in his hair or beard!
---It may have been a water-rat I speared,
But, ugh! it sounded like a baby's shriek.

XXII.

Glad was I when I reached the other bank.
Now for a better country. Vain presage!
Who were the strugglers, what war did they wage,
Whose savage trample thus could pad the dank
Soil to a plash? Toads in a poisoned tank,
Or wild cats in a red-hot iron cage---

XXIII.

The fight must so have seemed in that fell cirque.
What penned them there, with all the plain to choose?
No foot-print leading to that horrid mews,
None out of it. Mad brewage set to work
Their brains, no doubt, like galley-slaves the Turk
Pits for his pastime, Christians against Jews.

XXIV.

And more than that---a furlong on---why, there!
What bad use was that engine for, that wheel,
Or brake, not wheel---that harrow fit to reel
Men's bodies out like silk? with all the air
Of Tophet's tool, on earth left unaware,
Or brought to sharpen its rusty teeth of steel.

XXV.

Then came a bit of stubbed ground, once a wood,
Next a marsh, it would seem, and now mere earth
Desperate and done with; (so a fool finds mirth,
Makes a thing and then mars it, till his mood
Changes and off he goes!) within a rood---
Bog, clay and rubble, sand and stark black dearth.

XXVI.

Now blotches rankling, coloured *** and grim,
Now patches where some leanness of the soil's
Broke into moss or substances like boils;
Then came some palsied oak, a cleft in him
Like a distorted mouth that splits its rim
Gaping at death, and dies while it recoils.

XXVII.

And just as far as ever from the end!
Nought in the distance but the evening, nought
To point my footstep further! At the thought,
great black bird, Apollyon's bosom-friend,
Sailed past, nor beat his wide wing dragon-penned
That brushed my cap---perchance the guide I sought.

XXVIII.

For, looking up, aware I somehow grew,
'Spite of the dusk, the plain had given place
All round to mountains---with such name to grace
Mere ugly heights and heaps now stolen in view.
How thus they had surprised me,---solve it, you!
How to get from them was no clearer case.

XXIX.

Yet half I seemed to recognize some trick
Of mischief happened to me, God knows when---
In a bad dream perhaps. Here ended, then,
Progress this way. When, in the very nick
Of giving up, one time more, came a click
As when a trap shuts---you're inside the den!

XXX.

Burningly it came on me all at once,
This was the place! those two hills on the right,
Crouched like two bulls locked horn in horn in fight;
While to the left, a tall scalped mountain... Dunce,
Dotard, a-dozing at the very nonce,
After a life spent training for the sight!

XXXI.

What in the midst lay but the Tower itself?
The round squat turret, blind as the fool's heart,
Built of brown stone, without a counter-part
In the whole world. The tempest's mocking elf
Points to the shipman thus the unseen shelf
He strikes on, only when the timbers start.

XXXII.

Not see? because of night perhaps?---why, day
Came back again for that! before it left,
The dying sunset kindled through a cleft:
The hills, like giants at a hunting, lay,
Chin upon hand, to see the game at bay,---
``Now stab and end the creature---to the heft!''

XXXIII.

Not hear? when noise was everywhere! it tolled
Increasing like a bell. Names in my ears
Of all the lost adventurers my peers,---
How such a one was strong, and such was bold,
And such was fortunate, yet, each of old
Lost, lost! one moment knelled the woe of years.

XXXIV.

There they stood, ranged along the hill-sides, met
To view the last of me, a living frame
For one more picture! in a sheet of flame
I saw them and I knew them all. And yet
Dauntless the slug-horn to my lips I set,
And blew. ``Childe Roland to the Dark Tower
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Seriously, people turned a blotch in the artwork into a heart? I have heard of leaps in logic, but this takes the cake.

The game will come out when it is good and ready, and if it actually is a heart, it is very likely that some love-struck graphic designer put it in there so he could show his girlfriend. Unfortunately she slapped him after seeing the chesty samurai bent over in a provocative manner, saying that he should just go sleep with her since that takes up a good 10% of the picture and the lousy heart she got is about .01% of the picture.

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Although I thought your post was silly at best, there's nothing negative about it so it doesn't deserve these rate downs. *clicks green up arrow*
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This post has a very interesting theory. We’ll just have to wait and see.

Now, talking about hidden messages in the logo…
Did anyone notice the charging dude below the female Hyur(“hume”)? You can’t miss her, she is BIG! :P Anyways, look at the charging dude, look at him closely. Now that you are looking at him notice his only visible ear. It’s pointy right? But it’s still strange! Because its placed towards the head, not right to the side of the head like an Elezen (“elvaan”) or a Hyur. Now that you noticed this, look at the stripes on top of him. You know, the dark stripes, like a tiger! Now look at the face. Notice the nose. It’s not as pointy as an Elezen’s nose. Can you see it? It has a pretty familiar resemblance, hmmm…
Now let’s proceed to the weapons he is carrying. He is got a lance on his left hand and CLAW weapon (fist weapon like) on his right hand. After all these observations the last thing I want you to do guys is to compare this dude with the female Miqo’te(“mythra”) with the bow on top of the same female Hyur to the left. Do you guys notice anything? Do you get my idea? COULD IT BE?!!!!

Hmmm…

In case you don’t get it I think it could be a male miqo’te, manqo’te, manthra, etc. I could be wrong, I’m probably wrong! This is just the way I see it. What do you guys think? :)
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In case you don’t get it I think it could be a male miqo’te, manqo’te, manthra, etc. I could be wrong, I’m probably wrong! This is just the way I see it. What do you guys think? :)


While I can understand your speculation, I think it's just and Elezen. Ears are too long for a Miqo'te, who has triangular ears.
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