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#52 Feb 25 2010 at 10:29 AM Rating: Good
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I'm 20 right now, and I'm at the point in my life where maybe I should just 'grow up' as well and stop MMOs.


Pshaw!

I'm 33, played FF11 from 25-30.
You're never too old to do what's fun for you. You just have to have balance with it.

Having fun and being addicted are 2 entirely different things.
I have an addictive personality myself, but from time to time I have the ability to "Cold turkey" whatever it is I'm obsessing over. I quit 11 after spending over 40 hours a week playing and realizing I had just sunk 40 hours into something I wasn't getting paid for, lol.
After a few months off game I picked up City of Heroes, played for 2 years, dropped it, after a few more months I picked up WoW, I'm on it now(sadly it's all that was left I exhausted all my free trial options.

I like to think I balance my addictions and life pretty well now. I no longer play 40 hours in a week, unless I'm off work for some reason, hehe.
I have a job, a Fiance who is understanding(She has a couple non gaming obsessions, so we let each other have our vices), and a blossoming career as an Artist(Not pro yet, but getting paid gigs)

I do most of my gaming during winter. I do Sidewalk chalk art so during the warmer months I'm out on the town annoying officials and coloring the city. When it's too cold for sidewalks I fire up my gaming addiction and get hardcore for a few months, then drop off again when it warms.

I know I'm addicted but I kind of revel in it because i know I have it balanced, so really I'm looking forward to XIV and the feeling of that first sweet hit when I enter my starting city and find my way out into the wide open imaginary world.

to mithrandrk,
Growing up just means balancing the things you want to do with the things you NEED to do.
As long as you're meeting your responsibilities and do whatever you are obligated to do regularly, whether it be bills or school or family, you don't have to give anything up.

My old tabletop friends and I had a solid rule to make sure everyone kept perspective. The rule was, if we had a game, no matter when the game was scheduled, it was secondary to chicks. If a player had the option to go out on a date during the time of a scheduled game, they were not only excused but if they chose to come to the game instead of going out with a real live girl, they were out of the game.

Some adults paint their faces and act like 5 year olds when they go to football games, no one tells them to grow up. Other adults scream like little girls when their favorite American Idol moves on to the next round. These people, as immature as they can be sometimes, are still adults, and so are we. We are adults who play games, and as long as nothing gets left by the wayside to fulfill your love of gaming then you're fine.

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#53 Feb 25 2010 at 4:07 PM Rating: Good
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I hope I can get hooked on the game like I do with any other good games that come out. Meaning, I'm really looking forward to playing them a bit in my free time.

I hope, and think, that I won't become obsessed with the game like I was with FFXI for the time I played. I like to think that I've learned my lesson, plus I have many other things going for me in my free time now. Gaming is but one of the interests I have.

So I sure hope I'll find it a fun game to play. But I'm gonna be as aware as I can possibly be about where logging in goes from being fun to being a routine.
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#54 Feb 25 2010 at 5:24 PM Rating: Good
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I hope I can get hooked on this. I tend to run odd hours due to my work (such as getting up at 1 AM regularly, even on non-work days) where my family and everyone I know are still asleep. It would be nice to fill some of that time up.

Being hooked on a game doesn't mean your social life or health have to suffer, though. Even when buried in an MMO I still find time to lift (something I am hardcore about) and always put family and social events first. If you find you're sacrificing your real life for a game, then you may have issues. MMOs are great in that they can fill "dead time" with something that is not only entertaining but social as well. The key is realizing that socializing in game is usually nothing near as satisfying as socializing in the real world.

The folks that bother me are the ones that get so wrapped up in a game that they'd ask me to skip work to help them do something in game. I never understood how someone could get their priorities so backwards that they would not only think this kind of thing is okay but expect it of others as well.
#55 Feb 25 2010 at 5:48 PM Rating: Decent
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I think some of us (myself included) might be associating the word "hooked" with "addicted" too closely. Some of us are addressing one while the rest of us are addressing the other. I think people have made it clear that it is a good thing to be "hooked" because that means the game is worthwhile, but it is important to determine where the line is between "hooked" and "addicted" and stay as far away from it as possible so you don't mistakenly stumble to the other side. I also hope that FFXIV hooks me so I don't feel like I'm wasting money on a monthly payment.
#56 Feb 25 2010 at 6:04 PM Rating: Decent
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As with most addictions they aren't really intended, sometimes these thing just sneak up on the person.

Even the most unsuspecting level headed person can get sucked in, some can fight that some can't.

I think a lot of it also has to do with what you have going on in your life at the time, if you have a lot of time on your hands and very little social activity then there is a much greater chance of being pulled into that hole.
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#57 Feb 25 2010 at 10:30 PM Rating: Decent
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do i want to do this again?


I don't see why not, I mean, if what you say is true and you keep an active life outside of the game then you're good.

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I don't want to get too hooked on it, and I'm definitely going to keep myself at arm's length for the most part. I'm not going to go in with goals of "doing everything" or "being the best at X". I'm just going to have fun with it.


That is how I approached XI. There really is no need to be that guy that has to have the best gear, the most jobs leveled or the biggest bank.

Sometimes people tend to forget that it's a game and not a second job. I'm sure there will be people that come in and say that they enjoy those parts of the game. That's fine I suppose, me however, I don't give two ***** about that guy that spent months getting that shiny new piece of armor that will increase his epeen size by .3 inches.

I enjoy being able to talk to people that enjoy things I do, playing a fantasy game for instance. I enjoy the story, those moments that will grain themselves into your head, those laughs and those moments of ********** EDNFG9$%^#%@#ARFDADS!" where you almost throw the controller through the screen but later you look back on it and laugh.

I've been playing XI since a little after PC release(still am) and though the game has become somewhat stale and I've put up with some of Squares lack luster attempts at pleasing the player-base, I will probably be playing XIV for just as long if it's anywhere as good as XI is/was.
#58 Feb 26 2010 at 2:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Health is subjective. What one person may consider to be healthy, another may not. Besides that, what's an English Major/Harvard Law School student doing engaging in ZAM board discussions? Working on your arguing skills from the sound of it. It almost seems cruel that someone of your caliber would go around verbally destroying these poor people.

I know, you never said you were a Harvard student.

People who go into double majors are insane. I'm surprised they have time for MMOs. Wait, you're a highly intelligent girl-gamer who has a passion for working out? They do exist... the triforce incarnate. I'm sorry if I've mistaken your gender.

What I most regret about FFXI was that it took my interest away from practicing the piano. Or did I take my interest away?



Sorry for the off-topic. I just felt deeply compelled to say something to the blue one, as if my very existence depended on it.
#59 Feb 26 2010 at 6:20 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm not especially wanting to be hooked on another MMORPG. What I am hoping for from FFXIV, is that every time I log in that I am doing so not out of a feeling of obligation. I don't want to feel the need to log in to keep up in levels with my friends, or because I made a group commitment that I really do not wish to keep. I want it to be natural and spontaneous, which may be a pipe dream.
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People who go into double majors are insane.

It depends. For me, to get a double major was a difference of six classes, a single semester. As long as you major within a similar field, there is usually a huge overlap between the courses required.
#60 Mar 02 2010 at 7:05 PM Rating: Decent
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I do hope to get really hooked. I bought FFXI on launch when I was 13 but I found it too difficult, and I ended up quitting at level 30-something. I tried going back a few times, but it never really worked. As a longtime fan of FF, I was always disappointed that I missed out on of the supposedly best plots the series has seen. I think I'm mature enough to "get" this game, and I can't wait to truly experience the world of an MMO. And since I spend a ton of time just browsing on the Internet, I don't feel I'll have to sacrifice much in my life.
#61 Mar 02 2010 at 8:08 PM Rating: Decent
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so many text walls O.O.....

kidding, a lot of good comments on here.

I will probably play it and like it. I have a couple reasons for this. Firstly, Story telling is sort of a passion for me. I love to immerse myself in stories where I can find one to get me hooked. Whether it be a thrilling movie, a great novel, or a video game.

I went through a slump when my younger brother turned 14 or so and started playing the same games as me. I'd come down stairs and he'd already have beaten a part of a game I was playing. This really ruined it for me, as I don't like repeating long sections of stories in video games.

I love immersion and I find it difficult to find people that I want to talk to in general, especially my age. Most of the people that I talk to or socialize with are much older. I'm 21 and they are people that are generally in their 50's or 60's or older.

In general, I find that the conversations in certain areas of video games can be quite entertaining and provide for that amount of immaturity that I lack in my real life social life.

I also run into the most diverse group of people playing international games, which is also a huge plus. I live in the midwest, and diversity isn't exactly huge here. In fact, there is so little diversity in the area I live in, it's kinda embarrassing to talk to people at times.

The best way I've found to balance things with the game and still play regularly is to use it as my wind down time after work or something late in the evening before going to bed. A couple hours just before bed really helps relieve some stress from the evening and helps me fall asleep.
#62 Mar 02 2010 at 10:38 PM Rating: Good
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I'm 28 years old and I won't lie: When I first started playing FFXI, I really did get addicted and I really did let it ruin my life. Oh I could go into details but it's really just sad. You don't even wanna know.. or maybe you do, but really I don't think I should bother bringing up all the personal embarrassment here amongst a bunch of strangers.

That being said, when I got my life together and finally broke the addiction, I was later able to go back into these games (FFXI and WoW) and play them at a healthy level where I did not end up pathetically addicted. I had a good life and a decent game life. I even at one point got completely bored and walked away. I haven't been in FFXI since last summer.. I have no interest in going back at the moment either, just more bad memories than good at this point (from an addiction stand point). It's tainted for me.. that's one reason I'm looking forward to a new game, and doing it right this time.

I'm ready for FFXIV, I'm ready to devote time to it and have a blast and make connections, hopefully like I did in FFXI. But there will be some major differences this time around, namely that my real life doesn't suck like it did back then. The reason I got addicted in the first place was because my life really did suck, and I let the video game world draw me into a place where I felt comfortable, accepted, and important.

I still want some of those things to a point, but I know I'm at a place in my life where I can handle it. Yes, for another 7 years, heck I hope it'll be that long.

But it'll be in a different capacity than when I was younger. I won't make the same mistakes twice.

My suggestion to anyone who thinks even in the slightest that they might be addicted to an MMO or any other game, is just to quit cold turkey and don't look back for a year or two. It certainly fixed me up quite a bit. But what people consider an "addiction" will vary from person to person so I certainly won't attempt to implement some kind of standard. Just be self-aware. *shrugs*

Here's hoping to some good times over the next decade with great people in a great new game.
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#63 Mar 03 2010 at 12:40 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm 21 and have had very similar concerns as of late. As a college student entering my last semester in college (or what should be my last semester, **** technicalities), I figure that by the time next year I won't have nearly the time to devote to another MMO, or why I should in the first place. I usually take an all or nothing approach to things, and can't really see myself enjoying a MMO on a casual basis (unless it was really geared well for casual gamers). To this end, it's been a question of altering my play style to fit a more casual state, or giving up MMOs entirely and stick to less time consuming games/activities.

It's likely that people would classify me as addicted to MMOs (I really do spend massive amounts of time playing when I can afford to), and I would disagree. I can prioritize important things in my life, such as school (including that horrible semester with Calculus 2 and spending every waking moment studying math, trust me it's not as fun as it sounds), and believe that as long as you can see what is truly important in your life and can control your playtime as to not interfere with your life then it's not a problem (well it may be for physical reasons but ignoring that). I'd say enjoy it while it lasts, and if you (or other people) see that it's affecting your life in a negative way then cut it out. If you go into anything with a sense of 'guilt' then you aren't going to enjoy the experience as much as you could, if at all.

With that said, I truly had little interest in playing FFXIV due to these concerns and knowing the time sink FFXI was. Due to some recent developments, I will play it see how it works out. If/when my life is no longer suitable for it (please let me get a good internship!) then I will adjust accordingly.

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As to the whole "Double Major" thing, I believe he was being sarcastic. I dread being the one to attempt to explain a joke, but if you look at it there seems to be a slight exaggeration as to how "bad" getting two degrees in a supposed useless field would be. Could be wrong, but at the very least it made me laugh.
#64 Mar 03 2010 at 7:59 AM Rating: Good
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EliashBLM wrote:
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As to the whole "Double Major" thing, I believe he was being sarcastic. I dread being the one to attempt to explain a joke, but if you look at it there seems to be a slight exaggeration as to how "bad" getting two degrees in a supposed useless field would be. Could be wrong, but at the very least it made me laugh.


I took his non-response as showing that he really had no idea what he was talking about, sarcasm or not. I find that jokes should be pretty self-explanatory, including bad ones. Maybe I'm not giving him enough credit, but either way, people who refer to it as or think an English major is useless clearly do not know much about college degrees or their applications. My fields of study are also in absolutely no way related to each other, unfortunately, so I can't say I'm one of the lucky ones who only has to take another 5 required courses. But enough about me; elaborating on my life further will only further support what I already implied: I have absolutely no worries about becoming addicted.
#65 Mar 03 2010 at 1:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Haha I already warned my friends that I won't be around much once the game launches. I even told my guild mates on WoW that once the game comes out I'll be leaving Azeroth and would only return during FFXIV maintenance just like the old days!! LOL But seriously tho the game will be coming out around the time I'll be back in college, so FFXIV will be my time in between. School, Work, FFXIV until i can replace School with hanging out!! I don't think I will ever be addicted to a game like I was in FFXI, and I don't like to call it an addiction because of FFXI wasn't such a time sink I would have prob been on less. Never will i forget the day my friend invited me to a Bon Jovi concert and I didn't go because my LS was getting a lot of us Sky access that day, which took the WHOLE day! I don't think I'll be passing up concert tickets for FFXIV!! I'm hoping not!!!
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#66 Mar 03 2010 at 2:44 PM Rating: Decent
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I never played FFXI but i'm really looking forward to FFXIV. I hope i get hooked so i can enjoy the game!
#67 Mar 03 2010 at 3:55 PM Rating: Decent
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i have to say, the only way for one to be 'wasting their time' by playing a video game is if they do not enjoy it. this tired and narrow way of regarding video games as a hobby strictly for kids and immature young adults -- as something one should 'grow' out of at a certain age -- is propagated by people who allow their once true feelings to be inhibited by popular opinion and by appearances. i am very disappointed at questions such as "you still watch cartoons and drink chocolate milk?". do you not enjoy those terrible hollywood comedies riddled with *** jokes? let me enjoy this.

one of the easiest mistakes to make in life is to assume that adults with a job and responsibilities are automatically mature. wearing a suit doesn't immunize you from being an all-around jerkwad and a walking ego bomb.

if you find video games fun, play them and heed the advice given by many posts in this thread: don't spiral out of control and neglect certain things in life.

video games aren't a relative waste of time just because getting a degree has the potential to have much more positive long-term effects. death is inevitable, and on your last day what will matter is whether you have enjoyed your life. i'm not telling people to go and drop out of college now, but don't quit a hobby you enjoy just because you believe you've arrived at a certain part of your life where you "SHOULD be doing this, or that"; if you don't have the time to do both, obviously pick the one that matters most to you. don't let generalizations shape what you do, who you are. i applaud the many married couples i play MMOs with for doing what they do. (as long as they are being responsible parents and spouses, that is!)
#68 Mar 03 2010 at 7:26 PM Rating: Decent
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If you decide to quit this addiction... dun pick up FFXIV, if u do its like quit smoking lucky strike and pick up Marlboro its still smoking.

This thread remains me for 3yr ago when i was 22. Same question i asked myself, same reasons talk abt here and i quitted FFXI in the end. But...

Life after FFXI seems dull, not much soical life during FF, still don't seem to have much after (i did try to change), playing FF for 4 yrs had shaped my lifestyle already it was all too late (schools out, work came in).




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