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#1 Mar 05 2010 at 7:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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I was looking at the city-states/starting areas for XIV and it got me thinking about where I'd like to start, where I started FFXI, and why.

I started in Windy when I played XI, I'd like to say that I had some great reason for doing so, but sadly I didn't. A bunch of my friends who had started the game a a couple of weeks before me had started there and didn't yet know how to get to the other starting cities in order for me to join them. So I started there to be with them. Don't get me wrong, I really did end up loving Windy, I just don't know if that would have been my choice had I done (any) research on the game before playing.

Now I'm reading any little bits I can on the new city-states and trying to make a choice, and so far.... I can't.

All that being said, I figured this would make a great topic for everyone.
Where did you start in FFXI?
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Where do you plan on starting in FFXIV?
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#2 Mar 05 2010 at 7:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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I started in Windurst, but since I'm not a big fan of the way the Lalafell look, I'm leaning towards a Mi'qote as some kind of ranger/gardener in the forest city.
#3 Mar 05 2010 at 8:15 PM Rating: Decent
When i first started on Garuda, i started in Bastok, only because a made a hume. I didn't really know much about the game. Well, Nobody in NA did at that time. When my Bro started playing, i moved to Phoenix, and started in Sandy. I just really liked the whole castle appeal.

I'll Probably start as Miquo'te in 14, but i haven't really made up my mind yet. I wantto see what each city has to offer before i make a decision.
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I honestly don't know which race I wanna be. The lalafell look cute (and without the weird body proportions that tarutaru have), but the miqo'te are magical catgirls. **** my indecisiveness. TT

Also, I started in Bastok when I started playing FFXI, why, I have no idea, I just chose at random.

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#5 Mar 05 2010 at 8:25 PM Rating: Default
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Pikko wrote:
I started in Windurst, but since I'm not a big fan of the way the Lalafell look, I'm leaning towards a Mi'qote as some kind of ranger/gardener in the forest city.


It's Miqo'te, Pikko. And before you even respond, just calm. down.

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Tenfooterten, Assassin Reject wrote:

I'll Probably start as Miquo'te in 14, but i haven't really made up my mind yet.


I can totally see how Tenfooterten spelled it this way though. That's an acceptable mistake. But this does not mean you're off the hook, Pikko.

Edited, Mar 5th 2010 9:29pm by Twangaz
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#6 Mar 05 2010 at 8:30 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm still deciding between the Roegadyn and the Lalafell , unless they come out with a new race and as far as the starter cities.. I will wait till we got the info on the others before I make my decision. Last time around I didn't do any research on the game. This time I wanna make an informed decision .
#7 Mar 05 2010 at 8:35 PM Rating: Decent
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I actually tried all three, San'doria, Bastok and Windurst when I started FFXI.

I started as an Elvaan in San'doria, and realized I couldn't be an Elvaan because of how much their neck would stretch when they look to the side. Then I started in Bastok as a Galka. I loved Bastok's music. But my friend wanted me to switch servers, so I started on a new server as a Taru in Windurst, and then stuck with that.

I would have liked to start in Bastok the most, but because I wanted to be a Taru, I stuck with Windurst, so that I would get the bonus starting ring.

I think the main criterion for me to choose a starting city-state this time around are:

1) Music
2) Scenery
3) Bonus item for picking matching city-state and race.
4) Picking the same one my friends are in
#8 Mar 05 2010 at 8:50 PM Rating: Good
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Whichever one has a zone nearby with an environment like Yosemite National Park. Trees, granite rocks/mountians, streams, and green plant life. I love hiking IRL, and places like Yosemite are my favorite type of environment for hiking.

In FFXI I started out in Sandy, and Ronfaure fit my preference quite nicely.

If none in FFXIV fit that bill, I'll take whichever one has best balance of green plant life and/or trees in the surrounding areas.

Edited, Mar 5th 2010 6:59pm by Cyberbeing
#9 Mar 05 2010 at 8:55 PM Rating: Decent
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i'll be stationing my Lalafell in Limsa Lominsa. seems like a good place as any to start fishing.

http://ffxivonline.net/images/limsa%20lominsa.jpg


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If none in FFXIV fit that bill, I'll take whichever one has best balance of green plant life and/or trees in the surrounding areas.


i think you will love Gridania.

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/08/ff14_2.jpg

Edited, Mar 5th 2010 9:59pm by snuggans

Edited, Mar 5th 2010 9:59pm by snuggans
#10 Mar 05 2010 at 9:11 PM Rating: Decent
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I have to say.. Limsa Lominsa is looking pretty ****.. but I will wait on the info for the other two city-sates before i make my decision.
#11 Mar 05 2010 at 9:12 PM Rating: Good
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snuggans wrote:
i think you will love Gridania.

Yeah, at the moment that does seem like the safest bet in the green plant life and tree department.

Limsa Lominsa may surprise me though. I see it has a couple trees in its panorama, it appears to be the one most likely to have granite rock, not to mention being right off a body of water on the coast(???). If its surrounding zone has lush grassy fields, the occasional tree, and granite rock, it could end up a close competitor to Gridania.

As I mentioned previously, I care more about the starter zones then the actual city itself. I wouldn't put it past SE to make the starter zones for each of the cities a completely different environment then you would expect after seeing the cities themselves.

Edited, Mar 5th 2010 7:37pm by Cyberbeing
#12 Mar 05 2010 at 9:32 PM Rating: Decent
Twangaz wrote:
Pikko wrote:
I started in Windurst, but since I'm not a big fan of the way the Lalafell look, I'm leaning towards a Mi'qote as some kind of ranger/gardener in the forest city.


It's Miqo'te, Pikko. And before you even respond, just calm. down.

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Tenfooterten, Assassin Reject wrote:

I'll Probably start as Miquo'te in 14, but i haven't really made up my mind yet.


I can totally see how Tenfooterten spelled it this way though. That's an acceptable mistake. But this does not mean you're off the hook, Pikko.

Edited, Mar 5th 2010 9:29pm by Twangaz


Bah! That u is just a force of habit. (Old man shakes fist at U.)

Edited, Mar 5th 2010 10:34pm by Tenfooterten
#13 Mar 05 2010 at 9:40 PM Rating: Good
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I have to say.. Limsa Lominsa is looking pretty ****.. but I will wait on the info for the other two city-sates before i make my decision.


Exact same for me.
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#14 Mar 05 2010 at 10:09 PM Rating: Good
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When I started in XI(NA release) initially I created a hume so I started in Bastok but never actually leveled it past the Highlands. I later restarted a new Elvaan character on a different server but decided to stay with Bastok initially as it was an area I already knew. I did eventually switch over to Sandy though as I always liked the area once I first managed to get to it.

As for XIV I haven't made a decision on any of it yet and won't probably right up until the first time I get to play it. I want to be able to get more of a look at how each of the city-states are before starting anything really.
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#15 Mar 05 2010 at 10:25 PM Rating: Decent
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seems like there will be a lot of cats rounding around...
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#16 Mar 05 2010 at 10:53 PM Rating: Good
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I started in Windy as a hume(67brd, but never liked hume), then like 6 months later I lvled my taru mule(which was also in Windy). i'll be putting my Lalafell in Gridania. Something about a forest town that I always liked.
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I started in Windy mostly because I liked the forest feel of the city, can't say I ever regretted it. The area surrounding Sandy confused me with its trees, and the one surrounding Bastok just depressed me.

I'm considering starting in Ul'dah (sp?), although I'm not sure as what race anymore. I love dessert areas, which explains why I picked the city, but we'll see as new info comes out.
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#18 Mar 05 2010 at 11:09 PM Rating: Good
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Hume, I'm probably gonna go for the place with all the technology.

Before I was Hume but started in San d'Oria.
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#19 Mar 05 2010 at 11:18 PM Rating: Decent
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The first character I ever rolled started in Sandy. But being torn in between playing with people I knew in real life and those I knew from online left me server bouncing quite a few times (including Garuda, which was my birth server so I'm very sad to see it getting swallowed and name kicked :( )

So I've been around all 3 FFXI cities, but ultimately ended up trying Bastok because everyone I knew tried Sandy or Windy so I wanted to be different. I'm still a proud Bastokan today.

In FFXIV I want to start off in Gridania. I've always liked those surroundings the most and I think it's perfect to go with it on the fresh start this time. Also I'm a Hume in FFXI, I'm going Miqo'te for FFXIV.

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#20 Mar 06 2010 at 1:14 AM Rating: Good
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In FFXI, I was lucky enough to be on a server which wasn't utterly dominated by San d'Oria (at least in Conquest; although, they did make up the majority of the population). I started in Windurst as I knew I wanted to be a Tarutaru, and I knew that was where they were from. In FFXIV, I want to be a Lalafell, so I will start in whichever city is theirs. I haven't taken a look at the site recently, so I don't know if they have updated which race is from which city. Hopefully, the races will be from specific cities again and not just spread everywhere (not that players all need to conform to that). It doesn't matter to me what kind of setting it is; it will feel like home soon enough.

I do hope they have the Miqo'te in the same starting city though. It would be weird not to have the cats there too...

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First time I played I was a Mithra Red mage from Windurst, lost my character and started a new one as a Taru Whm from windy.

This time I will be starting in Gridania as a Mi'qote, probably guna end up as a Pugilist and a Cook.
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#22 Mar 06 2010 at 1:37 AM Rating: Good
Pikko wrote:
I started in Windurst, but since I'm not a big fan of the way the Lalafell look, I'm leaning towards a Mi'qote as some kind of ranger/gardener in the forest city.


Butbut, a Mithra (Mi'qote w/e) Pikko would just seem... not right! Smiley: clown
#23 Mar 06 2010 at 4:58 AM Rating: Good
I took Bastok in FFXI because it looked like the most modern and Technical one. So I think I will choose Ul'dah this time. Because of the same reason. At the moment it looks like a more modern city.
I don´t like Forestcitys so Gridania will be a no go. And if Ul'dah is not so modern as I think I probably will choose Limsa Lominsa.
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I started as a hume in Bastok.

Will start as a Lalafell in Limsa Lominsa.

Living by the coast all my life, I just feel more comfortable with port cities.
They feel more like home to me.
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I checked out each city and started a male Hume in Bastok. After playing the game for 7 years+ I'm glad I did. I like Bastok because of the look and feel of the place. Also being a goldsmith worked out nicely as the guild is in Bastok.

I think in terms of functional design Bastok and Sandy both win. I don't like how big the zones were in Windy. Too much walking and it seemed alot harder to get to the dunes from Windy if you wanted to party at lv10+.

Another thing to consider was Outpost Conquest quest. On my server Sandy is the most popular with Bastok and Windy kinda tied. I wonder if there will be anything like that in the FFXIV.

I think I'll remake my male Hume or maybe go Miqo'te but would prefer male Miqo'te which seems unlikely. Miqo'te are stylish in any kind of armor and have impressive animation. But depends on how much stats matter and yes each race will have at least some stat differences. Tanaka said it would be less noticeable then FFXI though.

As for city state in FFXIV, I'm leaning towards Limsa Lominsa or Gridania but still open to the idea of Ul'dah. We will just have to wait for more info. I think once we get in, open beta will help with that.
#26 Mar 06 2010 at 10:07 AM Rating: Decent
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I remember reading somewhere that there would be no penalty for starting in a city that wasn't where your race was from. I know in FFXI you had to give up your nation's ring. I was an Elf starting in Windy, so I never got my ring. My wife was a Mithra from Windy so she got it.
I'm leaning towards Limsa Lominsa (cause I like water) or Ul'dah cause it reminds me of Sandy. I'd still like to know more about the cities before I make a final choice, but that's where my Elezen is leaning right now.
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Pikko wrote:
I started in Windurst, but since I'm not a big fan of the way the Lalafell look, I'm leaning towards a Mi'qote as some kind of ranger/gardener in the forest city.


Butbut, a Mithra (Mi'qote w/e) Pikko would just seem... not right! Smiley: clown


I don't think I'm going to be Pikko in XIV unless I get over my dislike for Lalafell, which is entirely possible if they can just stop them from running around like they have watermelons in their pants. Smiley: lol
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I started in sandoria and liked it a lot and if I still played today I would not regret starting there. I met a lot of in game friends while there and plus I just liked the look of the town better than the others. Also, ronfaure was right outside which I liked a lot. For FFXIV I am still unsure where to go. I need more pictures and/or details about the places before I make a final decision. So far anyway Limsa Lominsa might be the place, but still not final.
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I have always wondered... was there any proof that Windurst was any more spread out than the other two cities? Once I was familiar with all 3, it didn't seem like any one city was that different from another in terms of how far you had to run to get to most NPCs. To me, it always seemed a subjective thing that people didn't like the design of Windurst, and so they felt like it took forever to walk around there.

So since I seem to be one of the few who doesn't think Windurst was that much bigger, I wanted to know if someone had actually crunched numbers or something to make it all relational.
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I'm waiting till we get more info on Ul'Dah and Gridania before I make my decision, but just from the 'concept' images and knowing what the outlying areas are going to be like for each location, i'm warming up to Ul'Dah right now. I was planning to do Limsa Lominsa, but from what has shown so far of the outlying area (the plains shown during the alpha test in Germnay last august) I really don't like it all that much. Ul'Dah has a savana for its outside area which reminds me most of what Sarutabaruta is and since im windurst native at heart that appeals to me the most. Plus Ul'Dah has the most unique looking 'design' (concept) of the three imo by far.

If we got more info on Gridania and saw what the actual city looks like I might tip my hat closer to it. Something nice about a more tranquil city in the forest I like as well. Although the possibilities of raptors being your starter mobs isn't exactly what I am looking forward to XD. (as noted by the bestiary on the main site.)
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I made a Hume in FFXI and started in Windurst because some friends where playing there, even though I had Bastok in mind first. Unfortunately my friends left the game, but I continued on and found a linkshell with a small group of people that mostly where from Windurst, so I had some nice people to do missions with, later on we moved to San d'Oria but it never really had the same feel as Windurst.

In FFXIV I think am going to play a Miquo'te to try somthing different and start out in that desert city Ul'dah? but not really sure yet, wating to get some more info :)
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It depends.

If it's like FFXI where starting in a specific city will affect your starting goods, I'm going to have to go with whatever the best result will be, regardless of the location.

If it doesn't matter where you start, or if the bonus is so minor as to be irrelevant, then.... eh, haven't made up my mind, I'll have to look at maps/layouts and figure out what looks the best in my opinion.
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I'm waiting till we get more info on Ul'Dah and Gridania before I make my decision, but just from the 'concept' images and knowing what the outlying areas are going to be like for each location, i'm warming up to Ul'Dah right now. I was planning to do Limsa Lominsa, but from what has shown so far of the outlying area (the plains shown during the alpha test in Germnay last august) I really don't like it all that much. Ul'Dah has a savana for its outside area which reminds me most of what Sarutabaruta is and since im windurst native at heart that appeals to me the most. Plus Ul'Dah has the most unique looking 'design' (concept) of the three imo by far.


I was thinking the same thing when I was watching the Gamescon demo. I will still probably start in LL still, but the plains don't seem to fit the area too well.
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So since I seem to be one of the few who doesn't think Windurst was that much bigger, I wanted to know if someone had actually crunched numbers or something to make it all relational.


I haven't crunched any numbers but I am pretty sure Windurst's layout made it take longer to get from area to area. My main piece of evidence for this claim is the warp tarus that were placed in the different zones. I don't think they would have only done something like this in Windy without ******* off the other city-states unless Windy was not as easy to navigate.
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My buddy and I tried all three before we decided to continue.

We found that Bastok was the easiest and would require the least amount of running around to get to where you need to be, unlike Windurst. We also enjoyed the music and concept/design of the Bastok much more over Sandoria.

Him and I plan on doing the same with FFXIV.
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In FFXI I was a Taru Blm from Bastok.

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