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#52 Mar 08 2010 at 10:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Most likely Miqo'te for me (unless they add a wolf/dog race lol), I just like the animal races ^..^

Also I know SE mentioned something about races having more differences than just stats in FFXIV as compared to FFXI, it will be interesting to see what those are when FFXIV comes out as it might be another deciding factor.

Not to mention there are two groups of Miqo'te, one group is the "Seekers of the Sun", and the other is the "Keepers of the Moon"; I'm not sure what differences there are between them (appearance,stats,etc. maybe) but just naming I'm leaning towards "The Keepers of the Moon" just because Moon is fairly commonly associated with wolves/werewolves lol
#53 Mar 08 2010 at 10:21 AM Rating: Good
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Female Hyur, and if I make a second character it'll be a Miq'ote :)

My FFXI was hume and she had her own backstory (I'm sad like that) and I met my hubby there (who was Elvaan). So cos of that, I think we're sticking with what we started with...although I think he wants to be Hyur this time. Kissing was difficult cos of the height difference, he often got a bad neck. ;)
#54 Mar 08 2010 at 10:46 AM Rating: Good
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I had always done the Human route in FFXI. For FFXIV, at least in the beginning, I was thinking about making a Miqote.. however. Then I noticed every single "What race will you be?" poll had "Miqo'te" outweighing every other class by huge ratios.

So I decided to go my usual route. I'll do the Hyuran Female up the first time around. While this too will obviously be plenty common, at least I'll feel better about not jumping on the Furry band-wagon :P Not that there's anything wrong with that ;)

I'm a role-player as well, so she'll have a good back-story / personality / etc. done up, and hopefully I'll be able to find others to role-play with as time goes on.

My husband mentioned if he joins, he'd probably go Roegadyn. Or, as he put it, "one of the big guys". :) I'm more the MMO person between the two of us though, I'm not certain if he'll get into it or not, though I did mention to get him interested in WoW so ya never know!
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#55 Mar 08 2010 at 12:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Considering that the trailer seen from Vanafest for FFXIV was supposed to be the intro trailer, and from that trailer there was no new race reported, can we say with almost certainty that there will not be a new race?

I just don't see how they could have an intro video without all the playable races in it.

#56 Mar 08 2010 at 12:55 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't know exactly what I will be, but I know I won't be hyur (I don't rp a human if I can get away with it) or elezen. I may go my first long-term permanent route from FFXI and do the biggie-small playing a roeg and a lala side by side depending on how involved the level up process is, I enjoyed the different mannerisms and min-maxing capabilities that I was allowed given two races of opposite strengths/weaknesses. That aspect of course will depend on how different the races are from each other.
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#57 Mar 08 2010 at 1:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Considering that the trailer seen from Vanafest for FFXIV was supposed to be the intro trailer, and from that trailer there was no new race reported, can we say with almost certainty that there will not be a new race?

I just don't see how they could have an intro video without all the playable races in it.


That was always my main question about the video. I didn't see it or even get to read any recaps (mostly cause I can't find any!) but I was wondering if there was a race in it that wasn't the main 5.
SE is gonna blow everyone's mind and have Moogles as a playable race.
But seriously, isn't there enough time that, even if that was the game intro video, SE could make a quick change and add in any other race(s) that would be in the game?
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#58 Mar 08 2010 at 1:58 PM Rating: Good
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I had always done the Human route in FFXI. For FFXIV, at least in the beginning, I was thinking about making a Miqote.. however. Then I noticed every single "What race will you be?" poll had "Miqo'te" outweighing every other class by huge ratios.

So I decided to go my usual route. I'll do the Hyuran Female up the first time around. While this too will obviously be plenty common, at least I'll feel better about not jumping on the Furry band-wagon :P Not that there's anything wrong with that ;)


I'm starting to find all of this out myself and despite the fact I would love to play a miqo'te, I might play a hyur female just because everyone seems to be obsessed with miqo'te. I can't do female elezen, though. I could never tell the difference between the girl/guy elvaans in FFXI and it doesn't seem to be that much easier in FFXIV. My fun has been spoiled by perverts yet again.
#59 Mar 08 2010 at 2:12 PM Rating: Good
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I can't do female elezen, though. I could never tell the difference between the girl/guy elvaans in FFXI and it doesn't seem to be that much easier in FFXIV. My fun has been spoiled by perverts yet again.


Took the words right out of my mouth. I would actually like to play an Elezen, except SE did not improve on the design whatsoever over the FFXI Elvaans ... at least from what I can tell in the early previews of the race we've seen here and there.

The females and males still look too similar. Personally I think the females look horribly masculine, and do not at all appeal to me as a result.. at least I think that's what bothers me the most about it. Maybe the whole race just looks too "neutral" though :P

A well done Elezen would have been an instant-hit for me. While it's a bit early to tell I suppose for 100% certain, what I've seen so far doesn't impress me (a lack of improvement)
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#60 Mar 08 2010 at 4:11 PM Rating: Good
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Considering that the trailer seen from Vanafest for FFXIV was supposed to be the intro trailer, and from that trailer there was no new race reported, can we say with almost certainty that there will not be a new race?

I just don't see how they could have an intro video without all the playable races in it.


****, I never thought about that. With the way they are hiding the video and how technology works nowadays it is still definitely possible they edited a few parts out, and that is why they haven't released the trailer to the public.

I just can't believe they are done with the races. There were multiple interviews asking if there would be any new races and the developers smiled and said "we can't answer that question now". No way they would just mislead us for months, if there was nothing else special they would have came out with it, like how they dismissed jumping.
#61 Mar 08 2010 at 4:27 PM Rating: Good
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There were multiple interviews asking if there would be any new races and the developers smiled and said "we can't answer that question now". No way they would just mislead us for months, if there was nothing else special they would have came out with it, like how they dismissed jumping.


They didn't mislead you. They said "We can't answer that now" -- what that means is "We can't say yes or no because we don't want to give away details". That meant it could be yes OR no. Just because it was no, doesn't mean they were previously misleading.. they didn't give an answer, they made the equivalent statement to "no comment".

It just means the answer in the end wasn't what some people wanted to hear.


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That was always my main question about the video. I didn't see it or even get to read any recaps (mostly cause I can't find any!) but I was wondering if there was a race in it that wasn't the main 5.


As for the video from Vanafest, I have a copy of a recap that was written.. while I guess I can't give details here about it, I hope I can at least say that I don't feel the information indicated potential new races. Or, if there is going to be one, I don't think it was indicated in the Vanafest video at least (based on my own feelings about second-hand info).. in fact, I'd say they seem to be sticking with the original 5 if one were to go from the video alone. [Unless the information in the recap was incomplete, or SE decided it was risky to include a potential new race in the video and are really, really keeping this one under-wraps beyond anyone's expectations.]

That's just my impression though of a recap (which is basically second-hand info to begin with). You can take it for what it's worth I suppose.

To be honest though, I think if they were making a new race or two.. they would want to leak at least a little of the info out. I honestly doubt they are releasing a new race.
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#62 Mar 08 2010 at 4:36 PM Rating: Good
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Oh, on a side note.. I think if they did introduce a new race? Doubtful they'd do it for release-day. Probably they'd introduce it down the road a bit after the game is established, because if they release it with the game, everyone is probably going to end up playing as that race since 99% of the people will be transplants from FFXI who are drawn toward a brand new shiny.

It'd be comical ;) But I don't think they'd do it.
#63 Mar 08 2010 at 4:43 PM Rating: Good
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They didn't mislead you. They said "We can't answer that now" -- what that means is "We can't say yes or no because we don't want to give away details". That meant it could be yes OR no. Just because it was no, doesn't mean they were previously misleading.. they didn't give an answer, they made the equivalent statement to "no comment".

It just means the answer in the end wasn't what some people wanted to hear.


Why wouldn't they just say no if they had an answer to the question though? There is no way they were still debating adding a new race in September/October, so they obviously had an answer to the question. If they tell us no their will not be a new race, it most certainly is misleading because they knew all along, but they didn't say. It's giving false hope.

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Oh, on a side note.. I think if they did introduce a new race? Doubtful they'd do it for release-day. Probably they'd introduce it down the road a bit after the game is established, because if they release it with the game, everyone is probably going to end up playing as that race since 99% of the people will be transplants from FFXI who are drawn toward a brand new shiny.

It'd be comical ;) But I don't think they'd do it.


That would suck, I would put months into a character and spend hours and hours making him better, and then they release a new race? Maybe for people just starting it's great, but what about the hundreds of thousands that have already invested time in their characters?

Edited, Mar 8th 2010 5:45pm by Sloannn
#64 Mar 08 2010 at 4:54 PM Rating: Good
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The game was in early alpha when the question was asked, perhaps they were still considering it.

Or perhaps they just want it to be a surprise when they offically announce the game to the world, SE are pretty good at keeping things quiet after all.
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I thought some of these responses were funny since they revolve around stats, and we don't even know how or what those are or will effect yet. I also think it's funny to read how many people chose Elvaan "because they're elves!!!" No. No, they're not. Elvaan were only partially elves and that was in appearance only. Their history was nothing like any elven lore I've ever read; it seemed more like something out of Medieval European history than anything else. However, I can agree with the people who say that they want a character which appeals to them as they have to look at it for years. Why not? It's your character, your time; make the best of it. ^^

Anyway, I am going Lalafell. I was a Tarutaru in FFXI, and I loved it. Even if they flipped it around and made it to where Lalafell had horrible stats for any mage, I'd still pick this race and play WHM first. If I had to pick a different one, I would probably go Roegadyn just to take it to the other extreme.

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I was a Taru in FF11 and was always a bit envious how good the WHM AF looked on Mithra and Elvans.


WHM, BLM, and BRD AF always looked better to me on Tarutarus. I couldn't stand WHM AF on any other race because of those goofy leggings. Take those away, and Mithra looked cute in it too.


Spock was an Elf too, regardless of what anyone says, it's far too obvious. If your going to replicate a real or fictitious species, you might as well just call it something else.
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#66 Mar 09 2010 at 4:29 AM Rating: Good
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Regarding ales playing Mithra/Miqo'te (or any female character regardless of race), I'll just come out and state the reason 95% of males are thinking, but don't want to say.

For 15 bucks a month, they'd rather stare at a chick's ***. My fiancee is bi and has flat out said as much herself ("Catgirls are hot") when she made her own Mithra in 11.

The Japanese oversexualize their catgirls as it is. Go on, go a Google Image search and look at the first page alone; try to tell me that, whether you personally find it attractive or not, that the implication that the artwork was intended for that purpose isn't blatantly obvious.

So male players picking such characters really comes as no surprise. For every 10 manthras who insist it had ANYTHING to do with the stats, at least 9 of the didn't make the choice primarily for that reason. Catboys are nowhere nearly as attractive or in demand, and the bulk of the people who insist they'd play a ale Mithra if they could are just trying to conceal any perceived homophobia.

If anything, I always felt that your character, regardless of race and gender, should be something aesthetically pleasing for you to look at. You're hopefully going to be seeing the character for years to come, playing in first person mode isn't really a permanent solution to playing a character you don't want to look at, just because "The stats are better" or "I'm a guy so I don't want people thinking I'm ***" (why should they care or why would it matter if you were anyway?)

The notion that all males spend their LFP timefapping to their female characters is just silly. While possibly true for some people, the notion that I want to play a character I find visually appealing does not inherently imply I am or will be sexually attracted to it; that's what my fiancee is for.

I liked how my Female Elvaan looked in XI, and I'm looking forward to starting at something other than an Elvaan for the next half decade or so.
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#67 Mar 09 2010 at 1:14 PM Rating: Good
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Considering that the trailer seen from Vanafest for FFXIV was supposed to be the intro trailer, and from that trailer there was no new race reported, can we say with almost certainty that there will not be a new race?

I just don't see how they could have an intro video without all the playable races in it.

Remember that the original intro video for World of Warcraft didn't show Gnomes or Trolls in it! But I was also told that they threw those two races in at the last minute for whatever reason.

I'm still keeping my hopes up for new races because of a lot of things stated earlier, like why would Square not just say "no" when everyone asked if there were going to be any new races? It's quite cruel to keep people hoping for something if it's already been decided that nothing new's going to be added.

I'd want to play Miqo'te the most, but it really is distracting with how many other people are also choosing it compared to other races. I think it's a good sign to Square that people like races that aren't completely human, and I know a lot of people who would KILL for a Moogle race.
#68 Mar 09 2010 at 1:50 PM Rating: Decent
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The next big reveal should be a new starter city-state with 2 new races. Dwarves & manthras, SE can call them whatever they like. It should be a city built almost totally inside of as mountain. I know, wishful thinking. I still wouldn't use them, I'm an Elezen in my head already, but I think something like that would make A LOT of people really happy.

Edited, Mar 9th 2010 3:19pm by ReiThor
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#69 Mar 09 2010 at 2:16 PM Rating: Good
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Why wouldn't they just say no if they had an answer to the question though?


I still think it was the equivalent to saying "No comment" -- basically to avoid incriminating yourself.

Or it could be some kind of language barrier. They could mean something different from what's been translated.. I'm not saying the translators were in error, I'm saying that the "meaning" behind a phrase can sometimes get lost in translation itself. I've seen that happen before on some pretty simple things in the past.

At any rate, the information they've given us to date has been vague with the exception of a few things they knew would keep us hanging on and talking about it (the combat system, class system, etc), but even those things we've received relatively little information about and they just repeat the same info over, and over, and over again interview after interview. I guess to then say "By the way, no new classes for you" might take away from the more positive discussion about what new things the game will offer.

Or.. I suppose another thought to entertain is perhaps they really didn't know if they were going to introduce a new race or not. Heck, maybe they still don't know.. I wouldn't put anything out completely at this pint ;)

I suppose we'll have to wait to find out. Speculation is an entertaining pass-time, mind you.
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#70 Mar 09 2010 at 2:58 PM Rating: Decent
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The Japanese oversexualize their catgirls as it is. Go on, go a Google Image search and look at the first page alone; try to tell me that, whether you personally find it attractive or not, that the implication that the artwork was intended for that purpose isn't blatantly obvious.

If anything, I always felt that your character, regardless of race and gender, should be something aesthetically pleasing for you to look at. You're hopefully going to be seeing the character for years to come, playing in first person mode isn't really a permanent solution to playing a character you don't want to look at, just because "The stats are better" or "I'm a guy so I don't want people thinking I'm ***" (why should they care or why would it matter if you were anyway?)


Actually, I personally do not find Miqo'te from what I have seen to be overly-sexualized whatsoever, but maybe that's just me. I think some guys have a tendency to turn things sexual when they're really not (obviously not referring to you in this case). That's what bothers me. It's a videogame, not pornography. All of the characters have been created well, I think, and deciding "which *** you want to stare at" is just really immature. There are plenty of other things to stare at in the game, and as much as the character is for your own personal enjoyment, it is also an MMO and therefore your character is your representation to everyone else who plays.

A lot of times in FFXI, I found that manthra players were incredibly immature and difficult to deal with (this obviously did not apply to those who chose them for their stats, nor the entirety of the manthra population).
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#72 Mar 09 2010 at 3:29 PM Rating: Good
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That's what bothers me. It's a videogame, not pornography


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"*** sells" is a foundational concept for the entire entertainment industry, and videogames are no exception. Unless your trying to market to women, whom are apparently only attracted to the color Pink.

God, I wish I were kidding.


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#73 Mar 09 2010 at 4:50 PM Rating: Good
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I will be a Miqo'te because I like catgirls, and I do not find any of the other races more appealing. That is all.
#74 Mar 09 2010 at 5:05 PM Rating: Decent
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For me its more about them looking cool than anything sexual or perverted, its pretty sad to look at any computer game character with that kind of mindset.

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I don't personally think that finding a virtual character attractive is "sexual or perverted". It's like saying that an image of your favorite actress during the Oscars is hot is being perverted. It's not like I want to pounce my machine and show the MMO what grinding is all about.

And yes, there are many other things to look at in the game aside from your character's ***. What you're fighting or where you're running are two fine examples. And the world itself, as big as it will probably be. It's why myself and most of us play the game, or at least part of why. But on the few occasions that you *are* standing around waiting or you happen to see how your new armor looks, why not have it be attractive. Maybe it won't be as big a problem in XIV, but there were several pieces of armor that just didn't look cool at all unless they were on a Mithra. And no matter what anyone says, subligars are just plain wrong no matter what race decides to wear one.
#76 Mar 09 2010 at 6:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Taru or whatever the **** the new name for it is. Or possibly hume, we'll see.
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ZeuDiabolos wrote:
I don't personally think that finding a virtual character attractive is "sexual or perverted". It's like saying that an image of your favorite actress during the Oscars is hot is being perverted. It's not like I want to pounce my machine and show the MMO what grinding is all about.


Yeah this just sent off a red flag for me, sorry. Saying something is hot/attractive is sexual, end of argument. Everyone is allowed their own opinion on whether having this attraction is ok, but I'll stick with the other side. Comparing a virtual character to a real person really just doesn't work for me. It's not a real person and it never will be. It's like saying it's okay to have an attraction towards animals or action figures. While some people find this okay, I just don't. As a woman, it is a HUGE turn off to listen to guys talk about videogame characters being "attractive." When I worked at Gamestop, it's what separated the nerds from the guys with an interest in videogames.

And fyi, Zem, I do not like the color pink. :) Nor do I support selling out to the perverted masses because sickos make the world go 'round by "buying ***."

edit: clarification

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Bluefirefly wrote:
ZeuDiabolos wrote:
I don't personally think that finding a virtual character attractive is "sexual or perverted". It's like saying that an image of your favorite actress during the Oscars is hot is being perverted. It's not like I want to pounce my machine and show the MMO what grinding is all about.


Yeah this just sent off a red flag for me, sorry. Saying something is hot/attractive is sexual, end of argument. Everyone is allowed their own opinion on this matter, but I'll stick with the other side. Comparing a virtual character to a real person really just doesn't work for me. It's not a real person and it never will be. It's like saying it's okay to have an attraction towards animals or action figures. While some people find this okay, I just don't. As a woman, it is a HUGE turn off to listen to guys talk about videogame characters being "attractive." When I worked at Gamestop, it's what separated the nerds from the guys with an interest in videogames.

And fyi, Zem, I do not like the color pink. :) Nor do I support selling out to the perverted masses because sickos make the world go 'round by "buying ***."


I don't think virtual characters are attractive, Bluefirefly. How you doin', chica?
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#79 Mar 09 2010 at 8:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Twangaz, wow. lol.

Also, I think comparing an attraction to animals to thinking a piece of art is attractive is a bit of a stretch. Now, if someone goes out and buys posters and figurines of a character, that may be encroaching on the sexual territory. Maybe the difference of it being sexual or not lies in realizing when something is fake and appreciating the beauty it was intended to portray or thinking things you probably shouldn't over pixels. Maybe using the word "attractive" is too much, implying an actual attraction to something. I don't really know, I don't make a habit of engaging in conversations over video game characters' appearances.. save for maybe how goofy Tidus looked with his uneven shorts.
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Twangaz, wow. lol.


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#81 Mar 09 2010 at 8:38 PM Rating: Decent
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The names have changed. Get over it.

I voted Lalafell.
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And fyi, Zem, I do not like the color pink. :) Nor do I support selling out to the perverted masses because sickos make the world go 'round by "buying ***."


For what it's worth, I like pink as much as any other color.

But I only mentioned that to point out that there's this odd disconnect in selling *** to females in videogames that isn't quite so pronounced in other media. You can think the whole topic is shallow as ****, and still find the inequality there just a bit irksome.








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Zemzelette wrote:
For what it's worth, I like pink as much as any other color.

But I only mentioned that to point out that there's this odd disconnect in selling *** to females in videogames that isn't quite so pronounced in other media. You can still think the whole topic is shallow as **** (lord knows your on defensible moral ground) and still find the inequality there just a bit irksome.


I really wish I could understand why more girls aren't into videogames that don't go by the name of something along the lines of "Cute furry puppies and kitties galore!" I personally need a game with a good story-line or more intense gameplay. Zelda or Gears of War will beat Harvest Moon every time for me, although I will admit I did like those games...

Where *** is implemented, the story-line is probably missing something from my experience. Also, females are not as turned on by visual stimuli as males, something the advertisement and videogame industries know perfectly well. When I stop and think about it, the best games I have ever played in my life were pretty void of anything sexual, so it's annoying to see that it is such a deciding factor in videogames nowadays to make up for whatever else is lacking.
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I really wish I could understand why more girls aren't into videogames that don't go by the name of something along the lines of "Cute furry puppies and kitties galore!"

I remember feeling like I was one of those "rare female gamers", but there really are a lot more of us than you think! Personally, I don't think the difference is with the amount of girls playing games aimed at the male audience. It might be a bit mean to say, but a lot of girls I've met that DO play these games aren't very passionate or knowledgeable about it. They don't really get INTO the game, so they don't talk or care about it as much as a lot of guys do.

Uh, back on topic!

Square is really well known for making "****" female characters, almost always in skimpy outfits. This doesn't seem like the role Miqo'te are playing this time around, unless Square is just trying to hide all screenshots of them in underpants to seem more family friendly. So that would leave a position open for the role of barely-clothed-female-race. And was it the art director from FFXII that was working on FFXIV? If so, then that would make it more likely for them to add Viera, which would fulfill the role more than perfectly I would think.

Also, another piece of random speculation, maybe the reason they removed Roegadyn's tails was because they have another race that has tails, and Square thought that having too many races with tails would just be silly!
#85 Mar 09 2010 at 10:24 PM Rating: Good
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For what it's worth; I think we're operating under two different definitions of selling ***. I certainly don't mean that only things men like 'count' and things women like 'don't count'. Any kind of stimuli is fine so long as it's trying to accomplish marketable appeal via attraction.

I also think your using a sweeping generalization on the visual stimuli argument (not that it matters with what I stated above, but). The common theory doesn't posit 'at all' it posits 'less', and whose to say that less isn't sufficiently marketable? Lord knows certain movie stars and musicians have built entire careers on the idea.

Just because developers are mostly male and don't really know how to sell *** to women, doesn't mean I'm not going to get on their cases about the apparent lack of trying. I'm even happy to get a Spear Counterpart. It might be missing the mark a bit, but at least their hearts are in the right place.

/edit: I agree, sexualized characters or not, a shallow plot is just an awful thing.



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I remember feeling like I was one of those "rare female gamers", but there really are a lot more of us than you think! Personally, I don't think the difference is with the amount of girls playing games aimed at the male audience. It might be a bit mean to say, but a lot of girls I've met that DO play these games aren't very passionate or knowledgeable about it. They don't really get INTO the game, so they don't talk or care about it as much as a lot of guys do.


That is just not true..I have plenty of friends in FFXI that are female and every bit as passionate about their characters as any man, I can assure you, you are one among many of us. Most of us don't advertise our gender because it can sometimes become a factor in the game. We are every bit as knowledgeable as any guy and to perpetuate that myth especially by our own gender does us a disservice.

I will be Lalafell as I have grown to love the little people :}
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#87 Mar 11 2010 at 1:11 PM Rating: Decent
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That is just not true..I have plenty of friends in FFXI that are female and every bit as passionate about their characters as any man, I can assure you, you are one among many of us. Most of us don't advertise our gender because it can sometimes become a factor in the game. We are every bit as knowledgeable as any guy and to perpetuate that myth especially by our own gender does us a disservice.


I think she was making a distinction between girls that she has met. There really aren't that many females who are passionate as well as knowledgable about videogames that I have met, either. Or they pretend to be, but they're really not. A lot of girls I know are even ashamed to admit they like them because they will be looked down upon. This might be because I'm 20 and I go to a rich private college with girls who never leave their rooms without make-up, but this is the world I live in nonetheless. I am one of the only girls I know who is passionate about gaming. Just the other night one of my girl friends made fun of me for having a Master Chief poster in my room.
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I really wish I could understand why more girls aren't into videogames that don't go by the name of something along the lines of "Cute furry puppies and kitties galore!" I personally need a game with a good story-line or more intense gameplay. Zelda or Gears of War will beat Harvest Moon every time for me, although I will admit I did like those games...

Where *** is implemented, the story-line is probably missing something from my experience. Also, females are not as turned on by visual stimuli as males, something the advertisement and videogame industries know perfectly well. When I stop and think about it, the best games I have ever played in my life were pretty void of anything sexual, so it's annoying to see that it is such a deciding factor in videogames nowadays to make up for whatever else is lacking.


Interestingly enough, if you have ever taken a neuroscience course you learn that the reason that Females (and Males for that matter) find "Furry puppies and kittens" "cute and cuddly" is due to the fact that we all have an innate hormone that instills a euphoric response to that imagery. Something in the prefrontal cortex goes haywire when we see kittens and puppies, the same hormone goes wild when babies are the subject matter.

I have mo doubt that there is something similar when a Catgirl is involved. You are mixing one chemical euphoria with another. I for one have no problem admitting that my brain produces a fair amount of dopamine every time I catch that Mithra Character selection scene in FFXI.

So Mith'qote it is for me, because its cheaper than Cocaine but does the same thing it seems.
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#89 Mar 11 2010 at 3:39 PM Rating: Good
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I'm a guy but I play both. I tend to make caster type characters female and melee type characters male. Why? It's simple: I feel weird playing a male character wearing a dress (a robe) ... it just doesn't feel right. On the same token, unless there is deliberate hilarity involved (tiniest female model with odd proportions as a bloodthirsty melee character) my melee oriented characters are typically male because I'm not a fan of the concept of plate mail bikinis or thuggish women. Call me old fashioned, I guess.

All that aside, I sometimes set these considerations aside depending on the game. Take Aion for example: I found the male animations--particularly walking or running--absolutely horrid to watch. As such, I couldn't roll a male character in that game. In Warhammer, certain classes were strictly male or female due to class based gear or restrictions (here's looking at you, bald warrior priests). In WoW some of the races were so hideous that I wouldn't dream of rolling a female character regardless of the intended role (female orcs, dwarves, trolls, or cows).

I'm torn in this game whether to go with my standby female hume (I'm a caster at heart) or maybe try a mithra (assuming the emotes aren't obnoxious like I found the ones in FFXI) or a male tarutaru (since mage gear probably won't look as weird on them).

In most games nobody really cared what gender you were compared to your character. I found the exception to be FFXI in which people found it really strange. I probably didn't do much for myself by speaking of my character in gender, but never would deny that it didn't match the player. Most people figured it out really quickly and it worked fine for me.

My primary driver is that I don't want to be stuck with a character for years (potentially) that looks weird in its role. I want it to feel comfortable playing and I want it to look proper in the part to aid in my immersion. People that obsess about the sexuality of their characters ... yikes.
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I hope character customization allows for you to create mischievous looking Lalafell, cause while cute is cool for little characters, devious is totally fun to play from that height too, ala EQ Gnomes.
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I'm going mithra this time aka Miqo'te. Hume was boring but at the time i thought i could always make a second character and start over but going through AF, Missions, level cap breaks AGAIN...can't do it tried but failed. Not to mention having to level all my subs again?? No thanks...
#92 Mar 11 2010 at 6:24 PM Rating: Default
I don't know, really. Hume (THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE **** IT) seems like the safe bet, but I might just go Galka or Mithra (THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE **** IT!)


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Hume (THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE **** IT)


I called them humans when I first started playing. I mostly played a male taru blm and bst in FFXI. Later on I rolled a mithra thf.

Based purely on looks, I will probably roll a male lallafelllaelf, or a miquito. I have no problem playing a female character. If other players want to get hung up on what my character looks like... good for them. If they want to hit on another player because their character is ****, then they are retarded. Either way I don't really care, and I play whatever I feel like for any reason. I think too many people extend a player's character to the player, and get all surprised and uneasy when the hot little half elf they've been helping do quests all day turns out to be a guy in real life. Or they get a crush on some **** dark elf, trade real life pictures, and are shocked to learn that **** dark elf character is being controlled by some beast of a woman.

I don't know enough about the classes to decide what class I want to play, but it will be either the highest damage class, or the most defensive tank. If racial stats make a difference in gameplay, I will chose the race best suited for tanking or the damage class I chose.
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Most like either male Hyur or a Miqo'te.

I always find it funny when small, lithe characters kick some major ***, and Miqo'te are pretty much the embodiment of that.

If I go the Hyur way, I'll be sure to make him as small and frail-looking as I can. I just can't stand the mountains of muscle most males characters look in other MMOs.
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Old race named >>>>> new race names. Going Elvaan.
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On FFXI, my first character was an Male Elvaan. I always regreted this. I ended using my mule, a Mithra, and i just loved how COR AF looked on it. So in FFXIV I guess I'll start with a Miqote.
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#97 Mar 12 2010 at 1:13 AM Rating: Good
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Bluefirefly wrote:
I really wish I could understand why more girls aren't into videogames that don't go by the name of something along the lines of "Cute furry puppies and kitties galore!" I personally need a game with a good story-line or more intense gameplay. Zelda or Gears of War will beat Harvest Moon every time for me, although I will admit I did like those games...


Because the game industry tells girls "We aren't making these games for you."

Female protagonists are a rarity, (and most of the existing ones are constructed solely for the male gaze) and other female characters are just about always relegated to roles that they're "supposed" to be in; mothers, significant others. If I had a dollar for every female character that was supposed to be "in charge" and ended up needing to be saved and becoming someone's girlfriend, well ****.

Most modern games are also entirely about subjects that males are raised/taught to enjoy. The way a lot of girls are socialized also tends to steer them away from gaming.

I don't think it's that girls aren't as "into" games, I think they've just gotten the message loud and clear: Games aren't being made for them. It's "If you don't want to play as a big sweaty dude shooting a bunch of other dudes, or just maybe a woman with highly unrealistic body type made for ogling, then play some Cooking Mama."

There are exceptions, obviously. But this is largely the trend; deal with what the mainstream is pushing out (and the way mainstream gamers treat female players) or go stick your head in a niche somewhere. Doesn't exactly make one feel welcome.

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Probably Lalafell(SP?) at this rate. They look adorable. Otherwise, in my eyes, it's humans, tall humans, really big blue human dudes (at least Galkas had tails) or catgirls. The Roegadyn(?) actually kind of bug me the more I see them. They just look more and more like completely regular dudes except on steroids and, well, blue. Or white?

Again, hoping for new races, and wouldn't mind playing male Miqote; My reasons quite literally being that I am 1) male and 2) like cats. That's it. But I mean hey, I like cute, I'll pick Lala if I have to.
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Started as a Taru in XI, ended as a Taru in XI. I have given thought to going back, but I'm just going to let Wow occupy my time until XIV.

Of course I'm going to be Lalafell with the same name as my XI character only because I've been using the name for about 7 years now and I've grown to like it.

I'll also be dual boxing the day it comes out, 2x Lalafell, just waiting for some more class info to decide what I'll be playing as a main class. The second account will be the utility healer.

I'm even going to try playing with a keyboard this time. I started on a PS2 with XI so when I made the transition to PC, I wound up buying the equivalent of a ps2 controller for the PC so I didn't have to go through learning how to play with a keyboard.
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Cut, T. there's no such thing as a Night Elf Mohawk.



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#101 Mar 12 2010 at 8:29 AM Rating: Default
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I don't personally think that finding a virtual character attractive is "sexual or perverted". It's like saying that an image of your favorite actress during the Oscars is hot is being perverted. It's not like I want to pounce my machine and show the MMO what grinding is all about.


Nothing wrong with going, "that toon is hot", if they didn't want the toons in game to be hot they wouldn't make them hot catchicks. Any fighting game and Every Volleyball game involves cleavage, they do that for a reason.

Same phenomenon occurred all those many years ago when Tomb Raider first came out. Many guys played it because if they were going to play 10 hours at a stretch to find the treasure, they'd rather look at Laura from behind than Butch the Furry Shouldered Hero.

Some games just appeal to the "She's kinda hot" part of the brain.
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