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#1 Mar 16 2010 at 12:43 PM Rating: Good
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Simple question. I don't have premium, otherwise this would be a poll.

Your options (as it stands now) are:

Battle Disciplines:
Gladiator
Pugilist
Lancer
Marauder
Archer
Thaumaturge
Conjurer

Market Disciplines:
Miner
Botanist
Fisherman
Alchemist
Blacksmith
Culinarian
Tanner
Weaver

I think I'm gonna try a Conjurer or Lancer first, personally.

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#2 Mar 16 2010 at 12:46 PM Rating: Good
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Red Mage... I mean Conjurer.
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I'll try Pugilist.
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One of my favorite parts of XI was mining the tough to reach caverns, so that will be one of my first priorities. To help me out getting to those more difficult areas I will probably be a Pugilist or Conjurer.
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Well I'm gonna go Conjurer cause the one hat that lalafell is wearing is awesome, and culinary. Something tells me with no way of regaining MP in a rest state that food might play a vital role at MP regain.... just a hunch though.

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I definitely want to dry Lancer first. It sounds like a very active job in battle.

I also want to look at Botanist too... for some reason I have a feeling that it will be an interesting path to take.
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any jobs similar to RDM .
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#8 Mar 16 2010 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
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So far I want to be a Lancer or Thaumaturge, but I am usually a mage job so I want to see the other Disciple of Magic classes before I make a final decision.
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Or you could go to one of the other two topics about this on the front page:

http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?game=268&mid=1268467888154005011&num=42&page=1

which has a poll in it or:

http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?game=268&mid=1264529075251681739&num=77&page=1

which also asks for your job in FFXI.
#10 Mar 16 2010 at 1:49 PM Rating: Decent
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I am not sure tbh. As it stands now, if these are the only classes at release I will be dissapointed. I was expecting at least 1 more caster... prolly more, and something else too... something different. I dunno, but all classes feel kinda... bland to me (But I mean, so far we know basically nothing of how it all works so it might be awesome, just commenting from my first impressions more or less). I guess as it stands now I'd go with Conjurer.

It is hard to really say much since there is not much info, but yeah I was expecting more variety in caster classes and more new "ground-breaking"-type classes. Maybe the different "specs" in conjurer will somewhat account for that on the caster side, who knows. We will have to wait and see I guess.

In the end I will prolly love the game either way haha.

Edited, Mar 16th 2010 3:50pm by Belcrono
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Lancer first, and as soon as they announce a Summoner class or system, I'm so whoring THAT out.
#12 Mar 16 2010 at 2:02 PM Rating: Decent
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From what I have seen so far of what is available.

Battle: Pugilist

Market: Alchemist
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#13 Mar 16 2010 at 3:35 PM Rating: Good
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I might try out pugilist first, in my last months of playing FFXI I tryed out monk and to my surprice i really liked it, I had always stayed away from it. Lancer sounds interesting to, I am definitely not going for a mage job this time :)
#14 Mar 16 2010 at 3:55 PM Rating: Decent
Pugilist + Tanner

In FFXI I was a Monk + Leathercraft, so I figured I'll do it in honor of FFXI.
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Zenoxio wrote:
Red Mage... I mean Thaumaturge.


Sorry I had too! :p

Now to the OP I'm torn between Pugilist and Thaumaturge as my first combat job. Alchemist and Botanist I'm leveling both first as far as the crafting classes go.

Ether's anyone?

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I copy/pasted this from one of my posts in the other topics.....



Disciple of War: Lancer, I did play as a DRG in FFXI. It was by far my favorite class and I look forward to trying it again here.

Disciple of Magic: Unknown, I'm leaning towards a healer, but that's my DRG/WHM talking

Disciple of Land: Not sure, but leaning towards miner. 1st because I don't have seem to care for botanist, and 2nd cause miner seems it would help my choice for....

Disciple of Hand: Alchemist, I never got into crafting in FFXI, but I was always interested in trying this out there. I think here I'll give it a good shot. Especially if there are ANY truth to the rumors of DoH being able to customize weapons during repair.


For race, I'm gonna be Elezen. I was an elven before and that's always been what calls to me during character creation. I don't know if it's because of how they are shown in Lord of the Rings, or Eregon, or other books.

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Edited, Mar 17th 2010 4:23pm by ReiThor
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I'm doing what I do every MMO, and starting off with a healing class. Healers always seem to be in short supply, no matter what game you play, and I like feeling as though I'm actually needed and contributing, as opposed to being one of the dime-a-dozen damage dealers.
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#19 Mar 17 2010 at 7:57 PM Rating: Decent
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#20 Mar 18 2010 at 5:52 PM Rating: Decent
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I'll say archer until they release information on the great swords.
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I'm waiting to hear a bit more on the crafting classes - but right now I'm thinking about Weaver or Alchemist. I enjoy being a support class and the trading/marketing/social side of games, as does my gaming partner. Since we'll be duoing, we may have to see which classes best support each other, but we're also the type to stick to one class as much as we can.
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I am soooo torn about this. I really have no idea where I'm going to start. In XI I have PLD, DNC, DRG, and BST. I love them all, but I don't know if that really has any sway on what I pick in XIV.

I'd love Gladiator because in my heart I'll always be a PLD. It was my first job, and the most fun of any I had leveling. However, the ranged mechanics of battle really make Lancer or Archer look fun. In XI the fact that a DRG had a 10 foot polearm made no difference in battle tactics, which was completely lame. So I'm glad ranged attackers will be given some love.

Anyway, I've never been much for mages, so its between Gladiator, Lancer, and Archer. So either:

Gladiator + Miner/Blacksmith
Archer + Tanner
Lancer + Culinarian

I might just have to flip a coin on launch day. >.<
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Marauder+Botonist/Alchemist

Gotta make them potions.
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#24 Mar 26 2010 at 12:52 AM Rating: Good
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I'm a career healer so I'm hoping they actually add a healer class to the mages. If not, then conjurer. If that doesn't turn out as well as I like, then I'm doing a 180 and becoming a Gladiator.
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I'd like to say some sort of stealthy character but I don't see that as an option.

An archer might fit that role, but I've never been one for ranged, plus I'd probably have to craft and buy arrows and stock them, ugh, just a hassle waiting to happen.

At the end of FFXI I was really into DRG, so I'll probably go lancer and hope there is a 'jump' of some kind.

I tend to gravitate towards the more esoteric characters, mainly rendering them less desirable and 'ungroupable.'

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#26 Mar 26 2010 at 1:47 AM Rating: Decent
Lalafell Pug+Fisherman
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I am looking forward to hearing about a healing class, and definatly taking up the alchemy route!!
If no "true" healer is in there (which i doubt but who knows aye) then im going to go for the red mage wannabe i fancy buffing ppl ;)
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Lalafell Conjurer, Archer and Alchemist.
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#29 Mar 26 2010 at 8:42 AM Rating: Decent
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I would really like to play either gladiator or marauder; they better have scythes :/...
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im very torn but im pretty sure its going to be archer! And of course i can never leave my galka race!
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Initial character selection for FF14:

Hyur - Medium Size - preferably no hair - Pugilist - Tanner

Current character in FF11:

Hume - Medium build - Bald - Monk - Culinarian

Weird, huh?

Edit: Let me explain. No, is too much, let me sum up.

Pugilist seems to be what I have wanted Monk to be for years. It appears to be a job capable of soloing well (about on par with DNC perhaps) and, based on the description, is capable of being an evasion tank or an excellent DD.

Half of the weaponskills shown on the FFXIV page require you to dodge an attack to use them. Since you can't dodge an attack unless something is attacking you it has to be either a tank or a solo job. I'm really hoping for both.

Oh, one more thing. If the ability to choose between offensive and defensive stances is only available once at some point in your weapon progression I'm not gonna be a happy camper.

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#32 Mar 26 2010 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
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Pugilist or Lancer. I can't decide yet, but leaning towards Pugilist.
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Half of the weaponskills shown on the FFXIV page require you to dodge an attack to use them. Since you can't dodge an attack unless something is attacking you it has to be either a tank or a solo job. I'm really hoping for both.


I think this will be the case, though I don't think Pug will really be on the level that PLD is in FFXI 'technically', though relative to the enemy strength, it will be.

My theory is that the extremes of offense and defense won't be so far apart from one another, unlike in FFXI. So while you could create a fully optimized tank, it won't be to the degree that pld would be relative to the other classes, though relative to the enemy, maybe.

This will not only improve solo-ability, but it still allows them to balance the game for parties.

I also think that it might be possible to learn and master all skills given enough time, though only be able to "set" so many at any given time.

With every class having multiple roles depending on skills, like pug could be a dd or a tank(just an example), you could do the trinity thing (tank, Healer, DDs) or you could have parties where everyone has multiple responsibilities.

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I'm a career healer so I'm hoping they actually add a healer class to the mages. If not, then conjurer. If that doesn't turn out as well as I like, then I'm doing a 180 and becoming a Gladiator.


I think you may be thinking of it wrong. Since every class will have multiple possible roles, like Gladiator being able to be either tank or more DD oriented, it's rather possible that Conjurer IS that healer class, but with the possibility of being a Magic DD. However I could be completely wrong just like everyone else.

While I would like another class with healing possibilities, I'm not holding my breath, until they release a Summoner type, but I don't think the summoners would want to be put in the same position that they ended up in FFXI, unless of course they're designed to have a Summon out AND heal at the same time.

Now to the thread topic.

As it stands I'm probably going to play Lancer first, though so what I did in FFXI and just level them all with no main, if possible, and I am hoping we won't be limited to a set number of classes per character.

For race, I wanted to be Elezen because of the posture, but I don't like the exaggerated ears or pointed facial features, so I might go with the Human race for my main, but I'll probably have to alts for the **** of it.
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#34 Mar 27 2010 at 5:41 AM Rating: Decent
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The fact that I favor thief,samurai, and dragoon leave me all but with one choice. Lancer, I only like comparing to FFXI even though I know its a completely different thing is to get hyped for it more. I also enjoyed fishing :D So I am going to once again combine that to culinary. The idea is to undertake one of each to have a full plate of things to go about(like Leeyroy remember?).
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Since every class will have multiple possible roles, like Gladiator being able to be either tank or more DD oriented, it's rather possible that Conjurer IS that healer class, but with the possibility of being a Magic DD.


That's a very bold statement and is, atm, completely without foundation. We have no reason to assume that every class will perform multiple roles. We know 3 of the announced 7 will. I'm not sure what argument you could make for how the others will perform any role but that of a DD (or DD/Support).
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That's a very bold statement and is, atm, completely without foundation. We have no reason to assume that every class will perform multiple roles. We know 3 of the announced 7 will. I'm not sure what argument you could make for how the others will perform any role but that of a DD (or DD/Support).


It's not that bold, when I remember reading it somewhere on one of the interviews, it could have been one of those miss translated ones.

And when I say multiple roles, I don't mean multiple individual roles, I mean dual roles, like Conjurer would be main heal, but would use black magic on Magic bursts for great damage(just an example). While any good player that's a given, I think it'll be more of the norm this time around.

So far, every class has something that is a role counter to their other abilities, except maybe archer atm, I can't think of anything for it at the minute.

Not the mentioned with the possibility of maybe being able to set skills from other classes, we don't know to how big of effect that'll have on the classes or parties. It could be big, it could b small.....obviously.
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How do you get EVERY class?

Conjurer can heal or do damage, okay. Pugs can tank or do damage, okay. Same with Gladiators.

What do Lancers do? Do damage and small enfeebling skill, which increases their own ability to do damage as well. Debuffing is a normal part of the vast majority of classes in MMOs (and was in XI as well). That's not two roles, it's an aspect of DDing.

What do Maruaders do? Damage, and lots of it. The whole class is about powering up huge hits. They do have the defender ability, but no taunt, so that's only because they can put out huge spikes--they'll probably pull the mob a lot. They only have one debuff and it makes them hit the mob more.

You mentioned Archers.

Thaumaturges are odd, but it makes sense in the end. They do debuff a lot, but the interviews have mentioned that this is part of their DD tactic. They said that this class would have the highest potential damage. I'm betting that it depends on how many effects they have on the mob, giving them some kind of multiplier. It isn't like they are going to be taking care of their party buffs and mob debuffs and casting an offensive spell when they have the chance. They debuff the mob in order to do their damage. Similar to Trickster in FFTA2.
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What do Lancers do? Do damage and small enfeebling skill, which increases their own ability to do damage as well. Debuffing is a normal part of the vast majority of classes in MMOs (and was in XI as well). That's not two roles, it's an aspect of DDing.

What do Maruaders do? Damage, and lots of it. The whole class is about powering up huge hits. They do have the defender ability, but no taunt, so that's only because they can put out huge spikes--they'll probably pull the mob a lot. They only have one debuff and it makes them hit the mob more.


Lancers have a control aspect, they also have some support abilities, "Comrade in Arms" and "They also have a number of attacks that can confuse or bind them(the enemy)" said by Iwao on Eorzeapedia.

Marauder has "Defender: Tighten your guard, increasing defense and reducing attack power. Increases enmity generation while in steadfast stance."

I really don't think this game is going to be nearly as clean cut as XI, partly based on what was said so far, and partly based on the latest FFXI jobs.

BTW, I did say "my theory", but I guess, like opinions, ideas, or thoughts, they're not allowed in these parts.
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My first job will be whatever turns out to be BLM.

Btw why does some people call conjurer a rdm? It sounds and looks like blm or whm depending on how you go. Thaumaturge sounds more like a rdm to me than anything.
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Fisherman first, then Culinarian, followed by Lancer. I have no interest in magic disciplines at this point.
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I've read no racial disparity in stats, so I'm going to choose Hyur Male, and probably play as a Gladiator / Blacksmith.

It seems as though tanking will be much more involved, and also more of a team effort in XIV, this sounds great to me. I'd also like to be the go-to guy for my friends and "linkshell=(insert yet unknown global communication system's name) mate's weapon repair needs. Also nice to be able to repair my own whenever needed.
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Pugilist. They seem like they'll either be a tank or a monk.
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Archer and erhmm... *woodworking* ^^
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pugilist until I can learn the stealing skill reall well and then I'm going to go chef with the stealing skill... because... well I don't know why because, but I think that's what I'm going to do. The cooking thief.
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Strangely there hasn't been a Carpenter class announced yet, which leads me to think there are more classes to be unvieled.

I will go Lalafell Conjurer and Cook prob.
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Strangely there hasn't been a Carpenter class announced yet, which leads me to think there are more classes to be unvieled.

Just a guess, but the Botanist on the FFXIV site is holding an axe. Perhaps Botanist is a combination of woodworker and gardener.

EDIT: found it on the ZAM FFXIV Wiki also.

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I played multiple characters in Xi, 2 Hume (M&F), M Taru, Mithra, and Galka. Why, idk just feel like playing a different toon every now and then. But strangly enough I think I'm gonna be F Elezen this time around, didn't like the way they looked in Xi much better here imo. But same works both ways I like the look of Taru > Lalafell.

As far as class I've tried my fair share in Xi and I liked them all. But my first job was Drg and I think I'm gonna look into Lancer. Archer looks fun as well. And the only craft I could actually get into in Xi was Fishing, just love doing it!

So, Elezen F Fisherman > Lancer/Archer be my choice.
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Miner. I'll meet the game's first bunch of RMT and battle them in the race to get rich quick while everyone else is fighting stuff.
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I'm considering doing this as a cook.
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So are characters restricted to a single battle & market jobs?
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