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#1 Mar 16 2010 at 4:42 PM Rating: Default
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I'm interest in using two sword at once and I saw the pictucre of Lantern Shiled. According to the explaination, it is affixed with upto two blades, but does it mean I can hold two weapon with the shield? or I can use only one blade and the other blade is just fused with the shield?


Do you think FFXIV will have a skill called Dual Weild just like in FFXI?



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I fear that I'm going to spend alot of money on Lantern Shield to get repaired after battle.


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I wanted to be RDM with dual weild sword...... OTL


Edited, Mar 16th 2010 6:43pm by hexid
#2 Mar 16 2010 at 4:44 PM Rating: Good
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This thread delivers. ANYWAY.

1. I doubt you actually put the blades in the shield--more like it comes with it's own "thorns" effect, where every hit you block does a certain amount of damage to the opponent, and that will be determined by the shield's stats (and maybe your own, idk).

2. If DW isn't in game upon release, I'm sure it will be added at some point.

3. Rdm doesn't really exist. The closest you can get so far is Conjurer, who uses wands/canes and can cast white and black magic. Doesn't melee though.
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#3 Mar 16 2010 at 4:50 PM Rating: Default
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ah~ I thought that Thaumaturge is more resemble to rdm.....
#4 Mar 16 2010 at 4:58 PM Rating: Good
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They both do. Conjurer has straight nukes and heals. Thaumaturge has debuffs, but apparently also has the highest damage potential (at some kind of risk to itself). Conjurer is closer to the definition of Rdm (it's incarnation in other games). Thaumaturge is probably a little closer in practice (since Rdm in XI basically turned into a de/buffer).

Neither melee though. To be effective, they have to be at range.
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#5 Mar 16 2010 at 8:00 PM Rating: Good
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Q: So far in the classes and weapon information, we haven’t seen anything about dual wielding weapons like you see in FFXI. Will we eventually see dual wielding in FFXIV too? Also, if that is the case, what classes will they match up with? For example, is it something a Gladiator would be able to do with a dual wield-use sword? Or would it be for an entirely different class?

A: I can’t answer your question as to when but I think it is safe to say we will see it at some point. As for which classes will be able to dual wield, all I can say is, please look forward to future announcements.


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#6 Mar 16 2010 at 8:52 PM Rating: Decent
Gladiator gets Phalanx.

From what we've seen thus far, Gladiator is the only class that can use Sword + Shield.

If weapons are intended to augment stats associated with a particular archetype, I would expect to see caster swords (PLD, RDM). Then you take two of those and stick 'em in your shield ("holy" for cures/buffs and "Darth Vader" for debuffs and nukes) which are toned down in their effectiveness because you've got 'em stuck in your shield, not in your hand. Than you have your customary mediocre whacker stick as your primary melee weapon with spells yoinked from Thaumaturge/Conjurer and VOILA!! "A shield that is not meant to be smacked upon is not really a shield"...RDMs aren't tanks (regardless of what some Taru RDM/NIN managed to pull off). So if it's not intended to be used for tanking, what possible use could it have? Ahhh...

Either that or the lantern shield is just the dps Gladiator's response to an extra ouchy shield bash.

Could go either way.
#7 Mar 17 2010 at 12:43 AM Rating: Decent
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I know this is kind of off-topic but to directly reply about RDM. I'd have to say conjurer to me seems more like a Seer then a RDM. Of course there isn't as many abilities because it isn't and MMO (link above) but I think if it were to have more skills it would end up with a skill list thats looking similar to what conjurer has right now.
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#9 Mar 17 2010 at 7:09 AM Rating: Good
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But look at the Rdm magic list. It's very similar, just less powerful, and the class has decent melee.

I'd definitely agree that conjurer is closest to Seer/Scholar. But it's also the closest we can get to a traditional Rdm, since there isn't a melee magic class atm.
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#10 Mar 17 2010 at 12:32 PM Rating: Decent
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ya i guess that'd be true in that aspect depending on how cross-skills work you might be able to make your seer somewhat physical or a gladiator somewhat magical.
#11 Mar 17 2010 at 3:18 PM Rating: Good
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Gladiator gets Phalanx.

From what we've seen thus far, Gladiator is the only class that can use Sword + Shield.

If weapons are intended to augment stats associated with a particular archetype, I would expect to see caster swords (PLD, RDM). Then you take two of those and stick 'em in your shield ("holy" for cures/buffs and "Darth Vader" for debuffs and nukes) which are toned down in their effectiveness because you've got 'em stuck in your shield, not in your hand. Than you have your customary mediocre whacker stick as your primary melee weapon with spells yoinked from Thaumaturge/Conjurer and VOILA!! "A shield that is not meant to be smacked upon is not really a shield"...RDMs aren't tanks (regardless of what some Taru RDM/NIN managed to pull off). So if it's not intended to be used for tanking, what possible use could it have? Ahhh...

Either that or the lantern shield is just the dps Gladiator's response to an extra ouchy shield bash.

Could go either way.


I might just be pessimistic about this, but I'd wager that your first idea isn't going to happen. With the wide variety of shapes that regular 'ole swords can take, I doubt that it'll happen. There are fat swords, thin rapiers, and curved scimitars, and I have a feeling that some would look wonky tacked on to the lantern shield. If you look at the lantern shield image, you'll see that the shape of the shield where the swords come out is molded specifically to fit those swords. I highly doubt that SE would do the modelling to perfect their appearance with all of the other types. I mean, it'd be a cool option, but I just don't see it happening.

The second option sounds like the more likely outcome. Could act like FFXI's elemental spikes as well, I suppose. I'm really curious about the lantern shield. Seems like a cool concept to me.
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#12 Mar 18 2010 at 5:57 PM Rating: Decent
Or it could possibly be that it just increases the damage of shield bash? who knows.
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