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#1 Mar 18 2010 at 12:54 PM Rating: Good
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is under investigation for "account trading." I need to send them my email address and password to prove that I'm really me. Pretty amazing, considering I've never played Aion in my entire life. What does this have to do with FFXIV? Well, just wanted to say that I can't wait to see if the collective RMT IQ has gone above 50 when FFXIV comes out, but judging from this email I'm going to assume that it hasn't. Hopefully my old FFXI pals "hfklsgjhgjks" and "fhkslgfjkshg" will be joining me in FFXIV!
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#2 Mar 18 2010 at 12:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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fhkslgfjkshg never was much for conversation.
#3 Mar 18 2010 at 12:59 PM Rating: Good
I also got this email, And i've never played Aion either lol... Pretty funny :D
#4 Mar 18 2010 at 1:01 PM Rating: Good
I really hope Square-Enix designs FFXIV so it's hard to bot, and discourages RTM. I played Aion, it's by far the worst bot infested MMORPG I played. Hopefully FFXIV comes with a token device that helps prevent account stealing.

WoW's token recently got broken using a trojan to prevent user from logging in. It sends password and token info to hacker pc and they enter the information before it expires.

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#5 Mar 18 2010 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
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I've played Aion, but I find it hilarious that I have never been targeted for these RMT e-mails. I make it a habit to stay under the radar.

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#6 Mar 18 2010 at 1:12 PM Rating: Decent
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I really hope Square-Enix designs FFXIV so it's hard to bot, and discourages RTM. I played Aion, it's by far the worst bot infested MMORPG I played.


I think that's Square's intention. FFXI has been one of the rare few that has not suffered so badly from RMT bots. That in itself earns a place in my world of immortalized MMOs. I don't think Square wants to lose that. :3
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I really hope Square-Enix designs FFXIV so it's hard to bot, and discourages RTM.
Build a better mouse trap, and a better mouse is bound to show up. If there is profit to be made, they'll find a way. If SE were smart, they'd make funds fairly simple to acquire, so the perceived need isn't so overwhelming.
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#8 Mar 18 2010 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
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Build a better mouse trap, and a better mouse is bound to show up. If there is profit to be made, they'll find a way. If SE were smart, they'd make funds fairly simple to acquire, so the perceived need isn't so overwhelming.


In WoW RMT are virtually non existant, because gold is so easy to come by. They exist of course, but you never see 100 of them each named fhlgksjfgh come by and sit on you and camp your mobs. The worst you have to deal with in WoW is them spamming the chat channels trying to get you to buy their gold.
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#9 Mar 18 2010 at 2:06 PM Rating: Good
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I'm more interested in how they get the e-mail addresses in the first place.
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I just think they should bring mpk'ing back so we can take care of the RMT's ourselves :D and let's just pretend there won't be any other negative effects because, we're all adults here >.>
#11 Mar 18 2010 at 2:38 PM Rating: Good
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Hopefully FFXIV comes with a token device that helps prevent account stealing.


They already have a token, it's been around for a while now for use with XI and will be used for XIV as well. ****, I had to use the token to login to apply for beta.

http://account.square-enix.com/manual/en/about.html
#12 Mar 18 2010 at 2:46 PM Rating: Good
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They already have a token, it's been around for a while now for use with XI and will be used for XIV as well. ****, I had to use the token to login to apply for beta.


When I said "comes with" I meant it's in the same box as FFXIV so you don't have to buy it separately, and it would be required to login.
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WoW's token recently got broken using a trojan to prevent user from logging in. It sends password and token info to hacker pc and they enter the information before it expires.
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They already have a token, it's been around for a while now for use with XI and will be used for XIV as well. ****, I had to use the token to login to apply for beta.


Surprisingly enough, the same security system in WoW's token is used in FFXI's tokens. Therefore, it's possible for an FFXI token to get hacked in the same manner as the WoW tokens were hacked.
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#14 Mar 18 2010 at 4:13 PM Rating: Good
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In actuality, phishing emails work and takes little effort on the part of the scammer. It only takes one dumb person to fall for it for it to work.
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I just activated my account a week or so ago, and got a call from SE asking me to confirm my information. Sounds abit hardcore, especially if they do that when everyone jumps on the ffxiv ship
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It's really sad during the first two weeks of the game how many people fell for these tactics. Within a day, you see normal looking accounts start spamming all zone chats with gold selling crap. What was really sad was seeing how the GMs let a particular hacked account sit in one spot for 2 weeks advertising a gold selling website in their personal shop window.
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Farmers are now a thing of the norm in MMO's unfortunately. They were in FFXI, I remember seeing dozens of fishing bots on coasts, voke pots camping easy to solo NMs, and even parties full of RMT players. They will be in FF14, don't worry. The real question is how much will they spam general chat and plague the overworld.

If money is even one fourth as hard to get in 14 as it was in 11 then there will be prevalent gil buying, mark my words.
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I agree, Imperialvulture. GMs and support just aren't as aggressive as RMTs are.

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If SE were smart, they'd make funds fairly simple to acquire, so the perceived need isn't so overwhelming.

In STO, money is an absolute joke to make. You almost wonder why the devs bothered with it at all. Even if you don't know how to make money, there are quite a few other ways built into the game to allow you to get better and better gear that people actually use. However, STO is so smothered in spam, you will get pages of chat every second if you don't ignore them. I have yet to see a game that wasn't an NCsoft game (L2 and Aion, looking at you here...) with RMT spam as bad as this. At least they have a one-click report/ignore feature in place for this.

Kind of makes you miss the days when you could send a tell to your BST firends, have them clear the place out of botters and RMTs, and about all they would ask for is first pick on leveling areas. Um... yes, please?
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#19 Mar 19 2010 at 3:43 PM Rating: Good
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In STO, money is an absolute joke to make. You almost wonder why the devs bothered with it at all.


100% absolutely the truth. You never have to spend a dime if you just complete exploration missions. With awarded exploration points, you can get all the equipment that you ever need. It was a pretty interesting way of getting your ship systems upgraded. I left that game pretty quickly and I had millions of their silly currency sitting on my account.
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Making Gil easier to come by, and making some equipment Rare/Ex is IMO a great way to minimise RMT. SE said they will target RMT from the first day, I just hope they don't take out legit players with the trash like they started doing in FFXI.
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Well thinking back on it all, FFXI used to have problems with GSs hunting and camping all the expensive items. Prices back in the day were about ten times higher. (such as my life belt costing 300k on ragnarok).

However, at the beginning of one year they started cracking down on them. Prices deflated dramatically in a short time and to be honest, I think that hurt me a lot. While before it was hard to get a lot of stuff, it was still manageable and farming was much easier.

I remember a stack of silk spools selling for 70-100k. Moat Carp sold for 10k a stack. (I was actually ok back then with someone paying me in stacks of fish!) I was usually able to save up enough money to buy items I wanted in a little time.

While I dont really like GSs, there is always going to be a secondary market. The way they used to work in ffxi allowed for my game experience to be hindered little while now they are spamming /tells and sending me about 70 junk messages a month via pol email.

I'm not saying we should let them run wild but too much regulation will cause them to escalate to more annoying forms of soliciting or as said before, the better mouse will come along.

Just my two cents.
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i remmeber moat carps 10k a stack, haha that was my money maker.
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#23 Mar 20 2010 at 11:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Personally, I don't want to make money too easy to come by. Recent MMOs have been downgrading the use of money. The only huge use for money would be consumables, quest items and items to upgrade equipment. Though the pricing was off for a while in FFXI, I liked that money did play a large roll in the game.

I have to say, I miss the days at Rabao with about 100+ people fishing for moat carps even though a large percentage were bots. A lot of people made money off carps and it actually was fun to fish because you could communicate with alot of others fishing there too. There should be a need for money and some work should be made into making money. But the problem was regulating the RMTs and the high prices. I quit FFXI sometime during college and before I quit I bought a Scorpion's Harness for 8,000,000 gil. A year later I came back to FFXI and they were going for 200,000.
I still think back and wish I could have stopped myself the year before... >.>

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#24 Mar 21 2010 at 3:37 AM Rating: Good
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RMTs are already hard at work in FFXIV! JUST LOOK AT THIS!!!!!

http://www.ffxiv-store.com/

Silly bastards are advertising already and it makes me puke. Literally if you search for FFXIV on yahoo you get a good couple of sites like this...
#25 Mar 21 2010 at 3:54 AM Rating: Good
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RMTs are already hard at work in FFXIV! JUST LOOK AT THIS!!!!!

http://www.ffxiv-store.com/

Silly bastards are advertising already and it makes me puke. Literally if you search for FFXIV on yahoo you get a good couple of sites like this...



Yeah, there'll be no getting around this. It sounds like SE is going to take the frontlines against them from the start.
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My concern is depending on how hard it is to make money, we are all going to be running around like little pharmerz at launch. How are they going to know the difference between a noob trying to make some starter money, and a new RMT trying to get funds going?
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RMT's were fun to mess with in FFXI. I'd go behind them and be like "You guys are jerks." and "Are you a RMT?" and stuff like that. They never said anything back though.
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KatoArabel wrote:
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I really hope Square-Enix designs FFXIV so it's hard to bot, and discourages RTM. I played Aion, it's by far the worst bot infested MMORPG I played.


I think that's Square's intention. FFXI has been one of the rare few that has not suffered so badly from RMT bots. That in itself earns a place in my world of immortalized MMOs. I don't think Square wants to lose that. :3
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#29 Mar 27 2010 at 4:42 PM Rating: Decent
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I just think they should bring mpk'ing back so we can take care of the RMT's ourselves :D and let's just pretend there won't be any other negative effects because, we're all adults here >.>

actually, you just inspired me.
I think SE should add a new "tag" feature to the game, in which people can tag another player as RMT, and if one player received more than, say 200, tags, then that player become mpk-able, and possibly name color change, etc.
But of course, the player can file a complaint, and se can do investigation later. I mean they can keep playing, just not behave like a rmt anymore if they don't want to be mpked forever. Also, if someone gets 200 tags, that's fairly crazy I'd say.
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