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#1 Apr 05 2010 at 11:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hi all,

I’m new to the forum so if I’m posting something that’s considered “irrelevant” or “inappropriate” then my apologies… Maybe this is not the right time (for a game that doesn’t have a set release date yet) to look for people who fits the description… but I’m wondering if anyone here who will be

1) Playing this game casually (less than 20 – 25 hrs per week, and not considering leveling/item hunting as your #1 priority),
2) Interested in immersing yourself in the world of FFXIV and willing to explore the world just for fun: for example watch sunrise/sunset with friends, ride ferries/airships just for the fun of it, etc
3) Interested in having small group/community of casual players who are dedicated to create a memorable FFXIV experience together.

I played FFXI when it first came out in 2003, but had to quit in 2005 due to job/change of lifestyle, etc… I have finally convinced my wife recently to give FF XIV a try when it comes out, and since she had zero experience in MMO, I want to approach the game in a more casual/slower pace with her…

Ideally I would love to find a group of casual players who are also playing with their spouses and/or boy/girl friends, so we can all start off in the same town and explore/play through FFXIV together. But of course if you are playing this game yourself and is interested in having a memorable FFXIV experience in a casual manner then u definitely are the person that I’m looking for :)

My best FFXI experience back in 03 was playing with a group of Japanese players, with most of them averaging 28-35 years of age (I speak some Japanese and can read kanji, so that helped)… We almost never relied on fast travel (always take ferries/airship) and take every opportunity to enjoy the scenery… we made every level run feel like a fun field trip, as we spent time exploring the area, have “picnic” to chat when there’s no monster around (and when the weather is nice), and is very dedicated to help out others (in getting quests done, etc)

I’m hoping to find a group of players here who are also interested in playing FFXIV the way I described above… so as SE releases more info about the game we can start discussing which race/class that we want to be, and which city/nation/continent that we want to start with, and when the game launches we can all join the server and start enjoy the game together :)

If you are interested please feel free to share your own FFXI experience, how would you like to approach FFXIV, and ideas on how we can make this “casual community” work for the long run. Thanks~!

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#2 Apr 05 2010 at 12:26 PM Rating: Good
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Hey im also new and casual :)
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First of all, let me say welcome to this FFXIV forum. Alot of the people that have been posting here are FFXI and/or WoW veterans, but there are also some new people that are interested in FFXIV and have no prior MMO experience.

I'm planning on playing FFXIV casually as well, after nearly six years of playing FFXI (I quit at the end of last November). A RL friend and I are already planning on starting our own linkshell/guild/whatever they call it. The link is in my sig, but there's only four people signed up right now. The forum I'm using was originally intended to be for a CoP LS for FFXI, but plans fell through, and I restructured it for a future FFXIV group when it was revealed that Project Rapture was going to be Final Fantasy XIV. Feel free to have a look, but there's only one board open on my forum for non-members to post in.
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#4 Apr 05 2010 at 4:34 PM Rating: Decent
I plan on taking things fairly casually...at least to start Smiley: sly I stopped playing WoW earlier this year and have recently started playing LOTRO again (I played for a few months in 2008). I've been playing LOTRO for about a week now and I don't think I've said anything to anyone the entire time. I wave and cheer at people if we happen to be questing nearby one another and keep an eye out in case they get themselves in trouble but for the most part I've just been bombing around on my own and having a great time. Sometimes I play for a couple of hours and sometimes I play for 20 minutes. It's great having that kind of freedom but it's just as great knowing that there are lots of things to do in the event that I find myself with a chunk of free time.

One of the things I've noticed about brand new MMOs is that there tends to be very little reason to rush to get to whatever cap they've imposed with their first offering. There's usually not much by way of "endgame" content and then you find yourself either going back and leveling a new character/class/whatever or grinding incessantly for minimal returns. I don't have anything against those who rush to the endgame scene, I just have no inclination to be one of them this time around.
#5 Apr 05 2010 at 4:38 PM Rating: Good
I can't really say if I'll be playing casually or not. It usually depends on the content and fun factor. I almost quit FFXI before level 20 several times just because of how "grindy" it was. I'm not a huge fan of that. But I stuck it out, so I will no doubt at least play 10-15 hours a week, bare minimum.
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I'll also be takin it slow. I'll look for you if we are on the same server.

I missed a lot of fun because I fell into the trap of grinding to get to higher levels.. so i could grind again. Stopping from time to time to make enough money to get gear so i could grind better.

Took me time to realize i should stop and smell the roses.

FFxi was all about the community i doubt thats going to change XIV. Hanging out with people and talking, doing things with a group of friends. Thats what i want to do. Also, story and exploring the areas is a big part I missed on xi. I hope to fix that in xiv as well.
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#7 Apr 05 2010 at 5:17 PM Rating: Good
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Thanks for the reply everyone! I'll keep track of the ppl who expressed interest, and hopefully we can coordinate to all join the same server when the game is out :)

Ralrra - depending on how "casual" your FFXIV BASF Linkshell is going to be, I may either join BASF or attempt to create a linkshell/guild/group myself that emphasizes on "casual play"

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Aurelius - I totally agree with your point above.

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I missed a lot of fun because I fell into the trap of grinding to get to higher levels.. so i could grind again. Stopping from time to time to make enough money to get gear so i could grind better.

Took me time to realize i should stop and smell the roses.

FFxi was all about the community i doubt thats going to change XIV. Hanging out with people and talking, doing things with a group of friends. Thats what i want to do. Also, story and exploring the areas is a big part I missed on xi. I hope to fix that in xiv as well.


Aramail - You couldn't have said it better... I too fell into the trap of level grind sometimes :/

As Aurelius and Aramail both touched on in their posts, the willingness to be "friendly" and "patient" with one another is also what I am looking for when we say "casual"... Not saying that everyone must learn to love each other lol, but I do believe some level of maturity (age is not necessarily a good indicator of this, btw) and some amt of patience is needed for any successful MMO community.

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#8 Apr 05 2010 at 5:23 PM Rating: Good
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As Aurelius and Aramail both touched on in their posts, the willingness to be "friendly" and "patient" with one another is also what I am looking for when we say "casual"... Not saying that everyone must learn to love each other lol, but I do believe some level of maturity (age is not necessarily a good indicator of this, btw) and some amt of patience is needed for any successful MMO community.



I think this is what I missed out on the most in FFXI, my LS didn't talk much and when they did it was to bash player X or LS Y. :( Gotta have that social aspect or I may not stick around this time.

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I think this is what I missed out on the most in FFXI, my LS didn't talk much and when they did it was to bash player X or LS Y. :( Gotta have that social aspect or I may not stick around this time.


Totally agree.. even if FFXIV does allow a great amount of flexibility in soloing, it wouldn't have much appeal for me if most people I interact online are all about being competitive and immature...

Just to share my own FFXI experience... I was fortunate to be in another LS (besides the japanese one) in which people are generally friendly and helpful.. there's this one time that my ISP had issues and I lagged out while we were leveling deep in a dungeon... Not sure if its easy to powerlevel in FFXI nowadays, but back then when we just had the level cap raised from 70 to 75, one death at lvl 74 = countless hrs of grinding just to make up the lost xp... so almost all of the exp team members (including 1 stranger that's not part of the LS) decided to stay in the dungeon by constantly casting spells (forgot the names lol) so they wont get detected by the mobs nearby.. just to wait for me to sign back in so I wont get killed..

It turned out that my ISP service was down for a good 6 hours... and I was totally speechless when I signed back in to see 4 players standing at the same spot in which I lagged out 6 hrs ago.. and the RDM immediately casted a spell on me then said, "welcome back! Now let's go home :)"
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Oh thats the kind of people I would like to explore the new game with, now if only you all lived in the EU time zone it would be perfect.
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I'm definitely interested in starting a casual XIV community. I was going to do so once I started on a server and made my first char, but why not start now?

If enough people are interested I'm willing to host a community for likeminded players...maybe by the time XIV is released we could have enough members to have a healthy group for exploration of the unknown.
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kimutako wrote:

...the willingness to be "friendly" and "patient" with one another is also what I am looking for when we say "casual"...


From my experience, you are right. The Linkshells I look back and think of fondly were groups of people that are willing to work together and help each other out. If no one will help each other then why would someone stay?

Also, something I loved about ffxi is how friendly the player base is as a whole. I'd like to see that tradition continue. So being nice and helping people out leads to them helping others etc.

I've been in two linkshells that the main point was to help out its members and new players. Honestly its one of the most rewarding things in the game. Just going back online from time to time to see the people you taught to play at high levels, usually teaching others.

But I'm running on a bit too long so I'll stop there.
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#13 Apr 06 2010 at 1:07 AM Rating: Good
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I've been lurking over this site for years, and finally felt compelled to join and make a post. I just wanted to say this is spot on the gaming experience I enjoy and would want in FFXIV.

My favorite experiences in FFXI ( I played 4-5 years ago for 1/2 yr, never made it past lvl30 as I just could not handle the hardcoreness and grind) were when I joined an all Taru static LS. That, was epic fun. We did a lot of fun stuff that made the game feel more enjoyable. The site of a dozen little Tarus running around was hilarious in itself, and got quite the laugh out of the players.

I've been playing LOTRO since, and enjoy that game because it's more about the journey and not reaching the end. The people you meet, the sites you see, and memories that are forged are what really makes the game memorable for me.

I too will be trying to get my girlfriend to play FFXIV. She's never played an MMO, but I think the over cuteness of the Lalafell's will be motivation enough hehe.

I will definitely keep up with this post, and if something unfolds we'll go from there. :)
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kimutako wrote:
Ralrra - depending on how "casual" your FFXIV BASF Linkshell is going to be, I may either join BASF or attempt to create a linkshell/guild/group myself that emphasizes on "casual play"

I can't speak for anyone else, but my playing will mainly be on the casual side. My first job is going to be Fisherman. I'll just be sittin' on the dock of the bay, etc. :)

One of the other things I'm hoping for with the linkshell is that people will be willing to barter services with other members. For example, someone who's a Culinarian providing food to a Blacksmith in exchange for equipment repairs.
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#15 Apr 06 2010 at 4:36 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, defiantly, though I won't really be really slow, I won't be playing this fast at all. I did hard work in mmos like runescape when I was little with constantly trying to level up, ect and it was the worst experience of my life. ff online is something i take with more ease.
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Deffinately looking forward to the more casual aspect of 14, I'm sure I will no doubt start off casual and end up getting hooked and aiming my sites higher.

Getting into a good/friendly guild can make all the difference in how grindy a game can seem aswell, time flies when your having fun an all.
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Ralrra - depending on how "casual" your FFXIV BASF Linkshell is going to be, I may either join BASF or attempt to create a linkshell/guild/group myself that emphasizes on "casual play"

I can't speak for anyone else, but my playing will mainly be on the casual side. My first job is going to be Fisherman. I'll just be sittin' on the dock of the bay, etc. :)

One of the other things I'm hoping for with the linkshell is that people will be willing to barter services with other members. For example, someone who's a Culinarian providing food to a Blacksmith in exchange for equipment repairs.


Putting a bartering system in place sounds good. I just hope they flesh out crafting this time instead of pop, I busted a crystal and lost 200k gil worth of materials. Smiley: frown
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Thanks again for the replies everyone, its glad to hear that some of you here share the same interest in wanting to play FFXIV "casually" :)

Before we get to the next step, lets brainstorm some of the ideas/solutions on how we can make this "casual community" work:

1. Size: Should we even call it a "community" and allow as many people to join? Or just stick as a small group (10-15 ppl)? Is there an "ideal" size for a successful "community" (or clan, guild, etc) in MMO based on your own experience?

The pro side of having a large "community", is that we are more likely to find players to play with at any given time.. and it provides more resources when it comes to aiding quests/events, etc... the downside is that if we allow it to grow too big, we are bound to have players who do not share the same definition of "friendliness" and "casual play" joining the group, and eventually the community will lose its purpose with players stop connecting with one another and go their separate ways...


2. Rules & Guidelines: How much should we implement and enforce? In the ideal world if we are all "friendly" and "casual", there would be no need to set such thing to "manage" the community... I guess this depends on the size of the community as well...


3. Approach to the game: I'm sure that most (if not all) of you here are all nice and friendly and will be a pleasure to play with :) But when it comes to the definition of "casual Play", we may all have a slightly different take on what it is...

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I can't speak for anyone else, but my playing will mainly be on the casual side. My first job is going to be Fisherman. I'll just be sittin' on the dock of the bay, etc. :)


For me this is exactly what I'm intended to do :P My wife will most likely be a culinarian, so I'll be spending a lot of time gathering ingredients for her ^^

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Deffinately looking forward to the more casual aspect of 14, I'm sure I will no doubt start off casual and end up getting hooked and aiming my sites higher.


I may also ended up like this eventually lol...

I guess my take is that it's perfectly fine for people to have different approaches in "casual play" (how fast you wanna level, how much "role-playing" you wanna do, etc) within the community, but if we can efficiently introduce/group players who have the same approach, and then create a well-established support-structure behind it (ppl who were leveling at a faster pace can find a group to relax with when they want, and ppl who were playing at a slower pace can get help from players who are at higher lvls, etc) then we will have a better chance to sustain the community in the long run.

Sorry for the lengthy post... you can see how excited that I already am even months before the game becomes available lol..

What are your thoughts on how we can make this "casual community" a success?



Edited, Apr 6th 2010 1:02pm by kimutako
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#19 Apr 06 2010 at 11:21 AM Rating: Good
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kimutako wrote:
What are your thoughts on how we can make this "casual community" a success?

To me if it's casual there will be no rules or leaders, just a "place" where there are other casual players and no elitist jerks, selfish gear obsessed attention seekers or gil crazed Mr Scrooge crafters, just regular people who don't play 24/7. I think thats enough for a game that is entirely new, people always move on eventualy in MMO's.
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What are your thoughts on how we can make this "casual community" a success?

To me if it's casual there will be no rules or leaders, just a "place" where there are other casual players and no elitist jerks, selfish gear obsessed attention seekers or gil crazed Mr Scrooge crafters, just regular people who don't play 24/7. I think thats enough for a game that is entirely new, people always move on eventualy in MMO's.


While I agree it should be just a gathering of people, there has to be a little structure or people will get bent out of shape when someone is talking smack and something isn't done about it. That being said I do think there should be designated people to oversee things, but not to tell people what to do.
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Putting a bartering system in place sounds good. I just hope they flesh out crafting this time instead of pop, I busted a crystal and lost 200k gil worth of materials.


actually as much as i agree, equally disagree.

There needs to be some risk for reward. The issue in FFXI wasn't that you lost mats, it's that the drop rates for most things ingame were terrible! This drove up prices of the mats and made the gear even more pricey. If one went up the other followed.

With drops being higher i am not as worried, i personally hope there is failure for trying something new out when crafting, adds to the fun if there is sufficient reward(like a larger skill up).
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Putting a bartering system in place sounds good. I just hope they flesh out crafting this time instead of pop, I busted a crystal and lost 200k gil worth of materials.


actually as much as i agree, equally disagree.

There needs to be some risk for reward. The issue in FFXI wasn't that you lost mats, it's that the drop rates for most things ingame were terrible! This drove up prices of the mats and made the gear even more pricey. If one went up the other followed.

With drops being higher i am not as worried, i personally hope there is failure for trying something new out when crafting, adds to the fun if there is sufficient reward(like a larger skill up).


And I agree with you there as well, there should be some sort of failure, perhaps making a lower quality item or something such as this. And the drop rates were appalling, so if they work this out, all should be well. I didn't mind the risk of losing items, just the risk of "Oh snap I was facing the wrong direction or the moon was out of phase, so boom, I just went broke." If things are more common, it wont be nearly as heartbreaking when this happens.

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Size: From personal experience, 60 players are too many.

I don't think we need an actual limit but it has to be reasonable.

The more players you have, as you said, the less people know each other. To add on that, the more people you have in a group the higher the chances of some of the people finding someone who rubs them the wrong way.

Regulation:

There should be a few people with some authority, but not the kind of people who like to flaunt power. Being that person is hard though. People tend to get mad at you.

The rules should be loose but they should be there.

Approach to the game:

This could easily be wrote up as a mission statement. Everyone of the group helps come up with the original statement. Then when we add a new person, they get to add something to the mission statement that everyone can agree with.

That way everyone feels like that is their personal statement and not something just made up by others.
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Just want to toss in my two gil.

Anyways, I started playing FFXI back in 04' and it was my first true MMO. I always played the final fantasy series so naturally, I moved on to FFXI. Some of the best moments I had in-game were with the casual linkshell group that I joined early on in my FFXI career. While we never progressed into a larger scale, end game shell, we did plenty of exploring and story advancement through the years.

Not until I left the social LS for an end game related shell did I begin to resent logging onto FFXI. What was at first a fun, casual gaming experience soon turned into a grind of job like proportion. Naturally, my days within the game came to an end. Every now and then, I log back to check up on things, and rekindle the old flame of adventure, but at this point, simply too much time has passed.

Making a long story short, I too will be looking to enter into a casual oriented group. If there's a way to 'officially' jump on board, let me know because I'm definitely interested in signing up.
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#25 Apr 06 2010 at 12:22 PM Rating: Good
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Just want to toss in my two gil.

Anyways, I started playing FFXI back in 04' and it was my first true MMO. I always played the final fantasy series so naturally, I moved on to FFXI. Some of the best moments I had in-game were with the casual linkshell group that I joined early on in my FFXI career. While we never progressed into a larger scale, end game shell, we did plenty of exploring and story advancement through the years.

Not until I left the social LS for an end game related shell did I begin to resent logging onto FFXI. What was at first a fun, casual gaming experience soon turned into a grind of job like proportion. Naturally, my days within the game came to an end. Every now and then, I log back to check up on things, and rekindle the old flame of adventure, but at this point, simply too much time has passed.

Making a long story short, I too will be looking to enter into a casual oriented group. If there's a way to 'officially' jump on board, let me know because I'm definitely interested in signing up.


I'm sure someone here could set up a "count me in" site or something such as this so we can all stay in contact and as details trickle in from Squeenix, we can make an official home and start the shell there.
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I can't speak for anyone else, but my playing will mainly be on the casual side. My first job is going to be Fisherman. I'll just be sittin' on the dock of the bay, etc. :)


For me this is exactly what I'm intended to do :P My wife will most likely be a culinarian, so I'll be spending a lot of time gathering ingredients for her ^^

At least your wife is willing to play. I can't get mine to touch an MMO (or almost anything not on my Wii, for that matter) with a 10-foot polearm. However, on the off chance she's willing to give it a try after watching me, I may start a Miqo'te Botanist for her. Her two favorite things are cats and plants.
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#27 Apr 06 2010 at 1:03 PM Rating: Good
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I can't speak for anyone else, but my playing will mainly be on the casual side. My first job is going to be Fisherman. I'll just be sittin' on the dock of the bay, etc. :)


For me this is exactly what I'm intended to do :P My wife will most likely be a culinarian, so I'll be spending a lot of time gathering ingredients for her ^^

At least your wife is willing to play. I can't get mine to touch an MMO (or almost anything not on my Wii, for that matter) with a 10-foot polearm. However, on the off chance she's willing to give it a try after watching me, I may start a Miqo'te Botanist for her. Her two favorite things are cats and plants.


My fiancee is the same way, lol. I will probably have to start a Miqo'te Weaver for her since she apparently likes to crochet.. She's like a 70 year old living in a 24 year old body.. It's pretty creepy lol.
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I played XI for about five years on and off and never got higher than level 65. Clearly, I didn't focus on leveling. I spent most of my time exploring, goofing around, and just having fun. My favorite thing was ~photographing~ Vana'Diel and I plan on doing a similar thing with XIV. ( http://midsweet.net/screenies )
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I played XI for about five years on and off and never got higher than level 65. Clearly, I didn't focus on leveling. I spent most of my time exploring, goofing around, and just having fun.


Pretty much the same for me. I think I managed to make it to 72 on my ranger, and that was about it. I really enjoyed low-to-mid level exp'ing, actually (Dunes, Qufim, Kazham, etc.). I spent a lot of time leveling random jobs just to go through those places again. I liked how chaotic they were :P
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That sounds good and I'll definitely be keeping track of this thread. Would be awesome going into the game with some like minded souls.
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My fiancee is the same way, lol. I will probably have to start a Miqo'te Weaver for her since she apparently likes to crochet.. She's like a 70 year old living in a 24 year old body.. It's pretty creepy lol.


LoL to be honest I'm not sure if my wife will stick to the game.. i kept on selling the idea: "think of this as reading a fiction/romantic novel, except that there's beautiful visuals and you get to live through it + decide how you want the story to go, etc".. she, unlike my ex girlfriend, has shown zero interest in the battles, item hunts, etc...

That's why I think its critical if we can get ppl who have their spouses/girlfriends playing to start the game together, to show that this game isn't just all about us guys living through our childhood dream via a fantasy world heh... :P




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#32 Apr 06 2010 at 3:51 PM Rating: Good
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Well I'm not sure if I will fit into what typically is considered "Casual" for MMO's for FFXIV, but I will definitely be playing less than I did back in WOW or FFXI. I just don't have the time to commit to the hardcore lifestyle anymore. I'd be game to join this LS for sure, but I tend to have a foul mouth and sick humor so I'll end up offending someone and getting kicked most likely.
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And I agree with you there as well, there should be some sort of failure, perhaps making a lower quality item or something such as this. And the drop rates were appalling, so if they work this out, all should be well. I didn't mind the risk of losing items, just the risk of "Oh snap I was facing the wrong direction or the moon was out of phase, so boom, I just went broke." If things are more common, it wont be nearly as heartbreaking when this happens.


yeah absolutely lower quality would be very very cool although lower quality should have slightly higher vendor value or have the ability to synth apart.

Also i don't think anyone to date knows what exactly the old crafting system was. I bet it was so confusing SE just decided not to try and explain it so save any embarassment when people would say "really... thats why you did that... wow..."

One thing i hate that is becoming a standard in every game is there are junk items that drop... put them to use. I think having items that are just vendored quickly becomes tiring. I would like to be to have the option to invest some mats into said broken armor or shield and make it a useful higher than "standard" but not a rare item.

I dunno i am excited about how the new crafting system works and i think they have a ton of ways they can expand upon it and make it truly a fun experience. I think making the crafting jobs actual jobs was a step in right direction letting people that do crafting do something other then sit in town like a goon and feel like you wasted your whole day.

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...the willingness to be "friendly" and "patient" with one another is also what I am looking for when we say "casual"...


If this is what you are going for, Sign me up! I spend most of my first few weeks playing an MMORPG looking for a community I can actually fit into. I will spend alot of time in game, but in your terms I am casual. I loved powerleveling friends and repeating the low level areas like Valkurm and Qufim with linkshell mates. That's the reason I leveled most of my jobs in the first place.

Crafting wasn't my cup of tea, but I think that was mainly due to incredibly low drop rates on materials and the immense inconsistancy in the skill up process. If there are some good changes in the Crafting system, I expect to craft what I can (I'm all about self sufficiency).
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#35 Apr 06 2010 at 5:23 PM Rating: Good
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Well I'm not sure if I will fit into what typically is considered "Casual" for MMO's for FFXIV, but I will definitely be playing less than I did back in WOW or FFXI. I just don't have the time to commit to the hardcore lifestyle anymore. I'd be game to join this LS for sure, but I tend to have a foul mouth and sick humor so I'll end up offending someone and getting kicked most likely.


Nah, I think you'd fit right in man. I've played with you in several games so I know you pretty well. At least in this one we wouldn't be beating our heads against a wall, haha.

About the crafting being actual jobs, I also think that is a step in the right direction. The last mmo I can think of that had strictly crafting classes was like what, Ultima Online? I'm pretty **** excited to see how the crafting does play out in this one.

Lastly, has anyone come up with a name for this little community we have going here?
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This time around (venturing into a new MMO) I am going to play it smart. I have a Wife and two children and one on the way, and I really plan on taking it slow. I'm grateful that SE has decided to create an MMO with the "Casual" players in mind. Truth of the matter is that us FFXI'ers are now 8 years older ( those who started when the game was released) and have started families and such lol. This means we have (or should have) less time for games and more time spent loving and caring for our families. I am looking forward to saying goodbye to FFXI, and hello to FFXIV! With that said, I like the Casual FFXIV Community idea. Rate up!

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I am not sure if I fit in to the idea you guys have of a casual FFXIV community so if it is ok I'll explain how I think I'll play and if someone could kindly say "yes you seem to fit in", "I don't know if you would", or "no I don't think you would" or something to that effect that would be helpful. I think I do like your ideas and I think I will be playing like how you all are describing casual gameplay, I just want some confirmation that I actually do fit in.


Now on to how I think I'll play. I think I'll be interested in exploring the towns and areas to try and find out about the surrounding areas. I probably will then step outside to try however the battle system will work, but I don't think I will be bent on leveling unless I find some fun people to play with that keeps it fun and interesting. I like storylines so I will more than likely be concentrating on the missions and quests to try and find out what happens next. I am not big on crafting, but I might try it out since SE seems to have an interesting plan to integrate into the game. I am not too interested in end game stuff, unless it is made to be really fun. I like when linkshells(I just used this name since I played FFXI and since we don't what they will be called yet) have events such as garrison, so I like group events even if it doesn't have the best rewards, as long as it is fun.

I hope I didn't stray too far off topic, and I am sorry if I did or if I rambled on too long.
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I'm also curious in this because my girlfriend has finally agreed to pick up a MMO and i'd like it to be this one. The problem is is im usually pretty hardcore about it i'm never a jerk and i enjoy giving to the community as well as inventing entertaining games to play and events. I've been a guild leader several several times but if im playing with my girlfriend i'd like to be with some people who know how to step it back a little. I love to chat so if you think i'd beable to fit in with my girlfriend i'd be interested as well.
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I played XI for about five years on and off and never got higher than level 65. Clearly, I didn't focus on leveling. I spent most of my time exploring, goofing around, and just having fun.


I did this too, I got my PUP to 70, everything else was lower but I didn't have anything I didn't level at all. I loved just trying everything out and seeing new places. I didn't quit until all my friends got to endgame and the grind got to be too much. I just didn't care about my Maat hat as much as they did.

I'd love a more casual community. I hate that these games all eventually devolve into a numeric ******* contest and I'd love to avoid that for as long as possible. The first time someone in XIV asks me about my DPS or why I don't have "Gear X" I might snap, lol.

A group of random players sitting around in some town square BSing for a bit before setting out to do a couple simple quests before taking a nice choco ride out to a really cool area with awesome water effects sounds like a lot of fun to me. I also love exploring areas and finding those little nooks and crannies on the edge of the map that no one goes to.

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I'll probably play more than 25 hours a week, but I tend to meander when I game. Even on console I'll spend hours finding the entrance to the secret tunnel for the fluff items. Even though I'll probably end up playing between 30 and 40 hours a week I'm in no hurry to get anywhere, as long as the game is awesome I plan to settle in for a long time. It would be nice to have a group of friends in game that talked about random in-game buffoonery or good places to take screenshots or even RL stuff like good books or movies. A Linkshell that was actually a break from the grind would be awesome.

Edited, Apr 7th 2010 9:57am by Elmyrsun
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Again thanks for the replies everyone, it gives me a better understanding on what "casual community" means to you, and whether or not if we are speaking the same language when it comes to "casual play".

To summarize below are the type of players that I am looking for:

1) You are perfectly fine to spend more than 50% of your entire playing time having engaging conversation or doing fun events with your FF friends, instead of leveling/questing/item hunting.

2) You are perfectly fine to do a little bit of role-playing just to help immerse yourself into the FFXIV world, even after countless hours playing this game.

3) Be respectful to not just your LS members/friends, but to the FFXIV online community as a whole.

4) You would rather have a small group of close FFXIV friends, than all the elite end-game gears for yourself.

5) Never take PvP and other competitive events involving LS/clans too seriously.


If you agree with all the pts above, PM me and I will start getting the list down and maybe start a site for the community :)
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I usually find a linkshell/guild eventually. Even though I'm a casual, occasionally weekend hardcore player, I'd much rather solo most things. I prefer the challenge. Yet I like to have people chatting in the background and I also like to help out lowbies with quests and other things.
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Thanks kimutako for putting up those points to summarize what your looking for. I agree 100% I think! haha...maybe 99% because not really into role-playing, but I could always try :)
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My sister and I will be playing casually. We're moving this fall (hopefully won't interfere with playing), and should have a couple hours most evenings and a Sunday most of the time to play, so we'd be interested in a casual group. We haven't quite decided on classes, but will most likely focus on crafting. We played FFXI for a few years, then had to quit due to time constraints. Played WoW for years as well, we quit this past winter (again, probably for good), so we're well versed in MMOs and guilds/linkshells/etc.

I might personally have more time to play, depending on what kind of contract my current job offers me for next school year, though. I'll probably be finding a different librarian position in another school division, unless my current one gives me a decent enough raise and hours increase. Am hoping for a decent enough raise and to only work 6 hours a day, but kinda doubt I'll get that. (Yay babbling.)

I still don't understand guys lamenting over the fact that women don't play - if you've been on these forums long enough you know that a lot of us are women.
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#44 Apr 07 2010 at 2:09 PM Rating: Good
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I consider myself a casual player, but not necessarily in the same sense. I don't think I consider leveling "grinding". Yea at times it was a chore and I wanted to be done, but most of the time it was how I met new people, learned different things about the game and went to new places. I think 40k experience was outrageous, and I'm sure SE will do something about that. I, by no mean, consider myself "die-hard" and enjoy doing things that may not garnish instant results, but make friends and just overall make me feel like I was entertained. I think it's up and down, the game sometimes dictates how you will play and daily you may want to relax, you may want to be kind of a loner, and other days you just need the company of other people. I do know that I always enjoyed when I was in a linkshell that felt like a family. Like a group that talked to one another like friends and not just someone on another side of a computer. I will totally agree that a good linkshell will make your gaming experience so much more enjoyable.
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Thanks kimutako for putting up those points to summarize what your looking for. I agree 100% I think! haha...maybe 99% because not really into role-playing, but I could always try :)


LoL no worries when I say "role-playing", I'm not refering to hardcore role-playing like speaking in "Tarutaru" language, etc. It's more like thinking from your character's perspective, instead of from the player's perspective...

For example, lets say we eventually leave our starting town and head to a major city.. instead of discussing which quests we need to do immediately in order to get us to another leveling spot once we are there, we will instead be touring around the city first and check out the sceneries, etc.


Again if you agree with the 5 points below as your preferred style of play, please PM me and I'll keep a casual community list :)

1) You are perfectly fine to spend more than 50% of your entire playing time having engaging conversation or doing fun events with your FF friends, instead of leveling/questing/item hunting.

2) You are perfectly fine to do a little bit of role-playing just to help immerse yourself into the FFXIV world, even after countless hours playing this game.

3) Be respectful to not just your LS members/friends, but to the FFXIV online community as a whole.

4) You would rather have a small group of close FFXIV friends, than all the elite end-game gears for yourself.

5) Never take PvP and other competitive events involving LS/clans too seriously.

Edited, Apr 7th 2010 4:46pm by kimutako

Edited, Apr 7th 2010 5:30pm by kimutako
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Its funny because i was thinking about just that a few minutes ago and i wanna go the casual route in FFXIV. FFXI took up so much of my time and all for nothing really, only because i wanted to level, level, and level some more. I want to have fun in FFXIV and i love all the extra side stuff like questing, missions, fishing while chatting with some buddies, just messing around and the general exploration that goes along with all of it...i don't care to level to a million first because we're all gonna get there sooner or later, its basically a means for bragging rights for the people who wanna do it and get it done fast (where they reach cap level in 2 or 3 months)...its just crazy..lets have some fun! :D
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Thanks for responding to my role-playing concern kimutako. Yeah I can definitely be a searcher for neat scenery! I like scenes with water, waterfalls, streams, etc. I don't know why I like scenes with water so much, but they are just so peaceful to me. On a side note did you get my reply to your PM kimutako? I never sent one before so I am not sure if I did it right.
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I like scenes with water, waterfalls, streams, etc. I don't know why I like scenes with water so much, but they are just so peaceful to me.


OMG You and I will be great buddy in FFXIV lol..!

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Yep I got it and I'm just about to send you a reply :)
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I loved seeing the rainbow in LaTheine near the Holla spire. There were a lot of nice scenic places in the CoP areas as well. It's a lot better to appreciate some of these features with other people though, and a lot of time people are so caught up in the grind they don't notice such things. I hope I don't get as caught up in the grind as I did in FFXI when my first LS kinda fell apart. I'd also like it if there were definite places where you could stop and say, "Ahh, now I can stop leveling for a while and do some other things." in FFXIV too.

The game looks gorgeous right now, so it should be a lot of fun to explore... assuming you don't have to be high level to survive out there...
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I loved seeing the rainbow in LaTheine near the Holla spire. There were a lot of nice scenic places in the CoP areas as well. It's a lot better to appreciate some of these features with other people though, and a lot of time people are so caught up in the grind they don't notice such things. I hope I don't get as caught up in the grind as I did in FFXI when my first LS kinda fell apart. I'd also like it if there were definite places where you could stop and say, "Ahh, now I can stop leveling for a while and do some other things." in FFXIV too.


Ahh yes these places bring back memory..! I have to admit that I was having so much fun appreciating the scenery even at Windurst lol.. Bastok not so much :P Though I do like the background music there...
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#51 Apr 08 2010 at 9:09 AM Rating: Good
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We have a site up for the casual community now, if you feel like the playstyle description below fits how you wanna approach FFXIV, please send me a PM and I'll forward you the site link :)

1) You are perfectly fine to spend more than 50% of your entire playing time having engaging conversation or doing fun events with your FF friends, instead of leveling/questing/item hunting.

2) You are perfectly fine to do a little bit of role-playing (view the world more from the character's perspective, and less from you, the player's perspective) just to help immerse yourself into the FFXIV world, even after countless hours playing this game.

3) Be friendly, patient and respectful to not just your LS members/friends, but to the FFXIV online community as a whole.

4) You would rather have a small group of close FFXIV friends to explore Eorzea together, than to have all the elite end-game gears for yourself.

5) Never take PvP and other competitive events involving LS/clans too seriously.
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