AureliusSir the Mundane wrote:
Ahh right, because respecting that people should accept that others are different is a assumption right? It's just my ideas which tend to be... wrong? Right right. Also I don't remember denying anything. I stated that I wasn't name calling, but rather stating a blatant fact, so I admitted to it. Once again, you're trying to pick apart things that aren't there.
When you lace your "facts" with references to people being "DERP HERP morons" and are then stupid
enough to go back a couple of posts later and say you weren't namecalling, you're a @#%^ing ******
And now you're probably going to cry about me being mean.
You are right though, I do fly off the handle at that kind of attitude, it has nothing to do with my ideas. People who are too closed minded to understand what I'm having to repeat so many times I'm blue in the face well, it is quite upsetting. Especially when they get backed up. For some issues, it might be within arguments sake, but when people don't understand such simple concepts like "It's okay for some people to be different" then yes, it upsets me.
Hey...pssst...hey hey hey.
Maybe some people just don't give a sh*t about male Miqo'te and are put off by your rabid enthusiasm for it, how's that? What gives you the right to label them "DERP HERP moron[s]" because they don't share your enthusiasm?
Can you read? I don't know how to make a argument with you when you keep arguing something I'm giving you a reason for over and over and over again. It's not about the Male Miqo'Te at all, it's about some people's attitudes concerning diversity. Is that so hard to understand? Although I do agree, some people are probably just upset at me for being enthusiastic about that sort of thing, so thanks for confirming it for me.
Especially when they post their thoughts on it that can largely be summed up as, "whatever" and you come back with your enthusiastic tirades like everyone should be balls deep in love with the idea of cat men.
And you're not going on a tirade? Honestly, look at my posts explaining my reasoning and look how YOU are flying off the handle. Once again, because I know I'm going to have to explain this a few thousand more times, it's not about the "Cat men" or wanting them or not, it's about some people feeling that others should be denied rights to diversity.
It's not that important. It's important to you, but here's the thing: your attitude combined with your shaky logic is positioning you very handily to be approximately...useless...to the community.
It's shaky logic that I feel people should accept others for who they are? I won't say all of my logic is perfect at all times but the main arguments I'm making here and have made so many times in the past for this matter are for the fact that some people might want to look different than the "norm" and that it's okay if some one is different. This is shaky logic? Also I've contributed a lot of new information in the past, I usually help people with questions, post links, and even try to run a blog to inform people of all the latest info, yet I'm useless to the community?
Aren't you the one who said I need to stop stating assumptions as facts?...
You can **** and moan all day long about me being a meanie head and a rude guy and any other name you feel applies, but here's the rub...
When do I call you a meanie or a rude guy? I said I'm sick of your crap and sick of you stalking me around which you do all over the allakazham boards.
I'm not wrong nearly so much as you are.
Sounds like you're getting pretty high for your horse there. You seem to have quite the opinion of yourself, and this is coming from the same guy who said not to state opinions or assumptions as facts?
If I'm going to pick apart an idea I'm going to pick it apart because it's not workable, or it's shortsighted
So in your opinion, is the basic argument of diversity and the need for such thing, and allowing people to express themselves with such diversity wrong? It's not workable to have a male counterpart to a class that admits to having them? It's short sighted for people to want a more sleek and agile option instead of just bulky male after bulky male, or being tiny?
not because I need to find some way to make people wrong for having challenged my opinion.
Sure seems like that's what you're doing most of the time.
I've got a lot more MMO experience than you that gives me insight beyond psychofantic pipedreams.
Excuse me? Once again stating things that you have no clue about. I post on here anonymously. How do you know which MMORPG's I have played? How do you know how much experience in them I've had? Because quite honestly I've played quite a bit of them to their level caps and through end game content. Why are you stating that you have more experience than me when you don't even know me?
Oh, I'm wrong from time to time. No doubt about that, I don't say one thing in a thread and then turn around and deny having said it. How is "HERP DERP moron" to not be construed as namecalling? Yet you deny having done so. [b]Dumb. Very dumb.[b]
I guess the same could be said for you, right here couldn't it? I didn't deny that I was "name calling" I was explaining how I was trying to state a fact that if people can't come to term with some things they are morons. I wasn't arguing the fact that it "wasn't" name calling.
It undermines your credibility as much if not more than posting inferences and assumptions as fact.
Then what have you been doing...?
[quote]You get yourself in over your head with your over-eagerness to state things how they will be based on your ill-formed assumptions and then spend all your time crying about it when you're called on it.[/quote]
In over my head? I only get over eager about things that should be common knowledge to anyone who's experienced real world dynamics.
[quote]Sometimes, ya just gotta know when you're beat. Which in this case, you rammed your foot in your mouth with a profound amount of gusto and if I were you, I'd just stop and worry about getting that foot out of there instead of backpeddling and trying to make other people out to be something they're not.[/quote]
For some one who uses the world assumptions a lot, you must be use to sub consciously using them yourself. I'm not trying to "back pedal" out of anything either. I stand by my claim that if people can't accept diversity, if people can't accept that some people don't want to look exactly what common society deems you should look like, that you should have that option. If people can't understand that others should have this right to be who they wish to be, then they are morons for not understanding that. Edited, Apr 7th 2010 9:37am by EndlessJourney