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#1 Apr 08 2010 at 2:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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I was looking over the new screenshots and for some reason they brought to mind one of the things that has bugged me for a long time since I left UO, most MMOs lack real varriety on clothing.
In Skill based games there seems to be a much better selection of differant clothes and armors, sometimes allowing you to walk around town and actualy look like you might be a native. On the otherhand most Level based games seem to take up the opposite aproach, makeing you dress like everyone else in your level/job(class) range or be ignored for being under equiped.
These aren't all iron clad certainties but I am hopeing that XIV will have a much wider range of street clothes for vanity and RP use as well as armor that lets me come up with something that I like and maybe use it without feeling like I might drag people down.

But it IS fun to play dress up sometimes ;P
#2 Apr 08 2010 at 3:15 PM Rating: Good
At the very least we can hope for "visible" and "actual stat" gear.

Aesthetics are nice
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#3 Apr 08 2010 at 3:32 PM Rating: Good
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I couldn't agree more. I'm new to these forums, but I played ffXI for some time,and the 'range' of clothing left a lot to be desired, with most just being renamed versions of other gear. I'm hoping for some real variety this time round, hopefully with some race/clan specific armors/casual wear.
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I think the way EQII handled the "appearance" item set was done very well. Not sure why other games have had such a hard time incorporating this concept into their own games.

Being able to customize your facial appearance, hair, and skin color means absolutely nothing if you're wearing the exact same clothes and colors as the 100,000+ other people playing the same class.
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I played Aion for about three weeks (yes it was pretty horrible) and they did have a good idea about the clothing. For those of you who are unfamiliar with the system, You were able to mold any Piece of armor into another. You simply bought the desired armor and then took the states from another armor and put it on that one. Everyone could look different without being horribly gimped. Though i did not necessarily like having to waste a piece of armor at least my character looked unique.

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At the very least we can hope for "visible" and "actual stat" gear.


This would be the system i would like to see except maybe a way to easily attach and remove visible gear from other gear. So taking two pieces of armor and making them temporarily into one piece with the stats of one and visible aspects of the other. Then be able to separate the two and sell them individually. Therefore wasting no extra inventory space (especially if we change jobs on the go having to hold an actual and visible set would be annoying) and giving the ability to sell both back.
#6 Apr 08 2010 at 3:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Being able to customize your facial appearance, hair, and skin color means absolutely nothing if you're wearing the exact same clothes and colors as the 100,000+ other people playing the same class.


I couldn't agree more. This is a problem that really plagues a lot of MMOs these days and its kinda sad that there isn't enough diversity in clothing...
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#7 Apr 08 2010 at 4:19 PM Rating: Good
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I couldn't agree more. This is a problem that really plagues a lot of MMOs these days and its kinda sad that there isn't enough diversity in clothing...


I don't think its lack of diversity, because even if it is a different color it is diverse...but there is definitely a lack of design.

WoW uses the same design and adds a glow or different color scheme....which is diversity, but not uniqueness of design. It would be cool to emblazon our armors with coat of arms, tribal designs, hometown banners, etc.
#8 Apr 08 2010 at 4:23 PM Rating: Default
LOTRO has an extremely diverse array of armor/clothing styles in conjunction with the option to have an aesthetic set and a functional set. The aesthetic set is what is dispalyed; the functional set is what augments your stats. I personally find it to be a little bit clunky for some reason, but once you're set up with the aesthetics you don't really have to change it unless you come across something that you like better than what you've got. Also, you can sell off your aesthetic gear once you've "equipped" it and your appearance remains the same. It adds a certain amount of diversity and it also takes a bit of pressure off the devs to make great looking gear all the time. Endgame gear draws less criticism for looking like crap if you can find level 20 gear that you like the looks of and can use that to define your appearance.

It's also kind of amusing to come across someone tearing mobs to shreds in higher level zones wearing what appears to be not more than a dress.
#9 Apr 08 2010 at 5:21 PM Rating: Good
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I don't think its lack of diversity, because even if it is a different color it is diverse...but there is definitely a lack of design.

WoW uses the same design and adds a glow or different color scheme....which is diversity, but not uniqueness of design. It would be cool to emblazon our armors with coat of arms, tribal designs, hometown banners, etc.


Design, design, that's what I meant. My bad. My brain died while writing that last part.
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#10 Apr 08 2010 at 6:34 PM Rating: Good
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without the "PS2 limitation" excuse, I expect SE to make more designs for all types of equipments.

i mean, if they dont add batman and firefighter costumes during halloween event, I will be the first one to quit (j/k)
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*Ahem* back on topic. I like the idea of aesthetic clothing, problem is will they be worth selling if I am leveling weaver...
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#12 Apr 08 2010 at 6:48 PM Rating: Good
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I won't mind having a "town-gear" like this. When FFXIV was first announced last year during E3, this is was one of the armours I wanted to see... (hence why I started using it in my sigs).


Edited, Apr 9th 2010 12:52am by LeoTarvion
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I won't mind having a "town-gear" like this. When FFXIV was first announced last year during E3, this is was one of the armours I wanted to see... (hence why I started using it in my sigs).


Edited, Apr 9th 2010 12:52am by LeoTarvion


I've had my eye on this one, personally: http://destructoid.com/elephant/photo-m.phtml?post_key=154983&photo_key=121353

Sooooo cool. I can't believe that SE is making gear that looks practical!

Edited, Apr 8th 2010 10:08pm by Eske
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#14 Apr 08 2010 at 8:55 PM Rating: Decent
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leo... dont you think that garment part by the waist line kills the whole armor?
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#15 Apr 09 2010 at 12:15 AM Rating: Good
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Both are a little too paladiny for me :P, nothing against the job but historicly, paladin's aren't friends with people like me hehe. That and the reality of what the code they "lived by" says always runs through my head...

It'ed be nice to not walk through town in armor (or in undies) if I don't want to, I always enoy putting together a large wardrobe if the game will allow it.

Edited, Apr 9th 2010 2:16am by zurinadrg
#16 Apr 09 2010 at 12:31 AM Rating: Good
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With the huge emphasis on character creation in XIV I can't imagine they'd put a limit on the ways you can stand out in a crowd. I've heard it was confirmed you'll be able to dye clothing so that alone is far beyond anything we had in XI.

I'm sure there will still be pieces of armor and clothing everyone of a certain discipline will want to have. My hope is you'll be able to make it your own in ways other than just color, like making other small aesthetic changes to it. An extra piece of padding here, a pauldron there, a guild crest over here and voila! Simple but effective.
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#17 Apr 09 2010 at 6:02 AM Rating: Good
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I would love it if we have clothing choices for when we're not fighting or crafting. I almost backflipped while playing City of Heroes/Villains. The choices we had for costume pieces and colors was one of my favorite things in any MMO. I would love it if we have something like that in XIV, or something like mentioned above with visible and actual gears.
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#18 Apr 09 2010 at 6:16 AM Rating: Good
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Being able to customize your facial appearance, hair, and skin color means absolutely nothing if you're wearing the exact same clothes and colors as the 100,000+ other people playing the same class.

What's worse is when all those unique appearance aren't even visible when you wear a full set of heavy armor with closed helmet!

I wish for an option to show/hide headgear at the very least to stay unique in face/hair department.
#19 Apr 09 2010 at 7:14 AM Rating: Decent
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[quote] nothing against the job but historicly, paladin's aren't friends with people like me hehe./quote]

you one of 'em Lalafel dunefolk? hahah.


Man I hope there is a "town gear" option... I remember playing FFT on PS1 and when I went to town, I switched my guys to wearing silk robes 'cause it fit the image of classy (FFT!! It's not like the sprites change appearance even! Man I was really immersed in that game)
#20 Apr 09 2010 at 10:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Being able to customize your facial appearance, hair, and skin color means absolutely nothing if you're wearing the exact same clothes and colors as the 100,000+ other people playing the same class.

What's worse is when all those unique appearance aren't even visible when you wear a full set of heavy armor with closed helmet!

I wish for an option to show/hide headgear at the very least to stay unique in face/hair department.


I think headgear at the least...even something along the lines of a leisure option, so when your waiting for events to start or hanging on the beach w/ your boo you don't have to be clanking around everywhere. Plus it is nice to not always be walking around in the same **** thing.
#21 Apr 09 2010 at 10:25 AM Rating: Good
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It seems pretty clear that FFXIV promises a lot of options to be an individual. Even in looking at some of the imagery surfacing, the various characters seem diverse and interesting. I would imagine that with the ability to customize hair, eye color, skin color, height, size etc would come the necessary tools to pick and choose clothing with various aesthetics. I'm excited to see what comes next, and have every faith that the level of customization in FFXIV is going to blow us FFXI players away.
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Yeah I think the character creator is going to blow most of us XI players away. They are stressing it so much in interviews and it already looks SO in depth. It goes so far as to change your starter equipment, that's amazing!

Honestly I don't think expressing your individuality is going to be an issue in XIV.
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#23 Apr 09 2010 at 2:56 PM Rating: Decent
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[quote] nothing against the job but historicly, paladin's aren't friends with people like me hehe./quote]

you one of 'em Lalafel dunefolk? hahah.


Nope, I'm Pagan. Kind of like a modern Druid (not assosiated with wicca though :P most of them are good people and all but I know too much about the groups history) but that has nothing to do with FFXIV so back on topic.

Idealy I would realy like to see the ability to wear anything that can be found on NPCs and then some. Having to change into it or not doesn't realy bother me.
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Idealy I would realy like to see the ability to wear anything that can be found on NPCs and then some. Having to change into it or not doesn't realy bother me.


It would be cool if all the NPCs were just renditions of each employees own created avatar at SE. Add some personality and fun to the NPCs :) My guess is the tool they use to build NPCs is the same one we are getting :):)
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I like the idea of being able to put stats on different gear. Alot of times in some MMO's you might see a piece of gear that you like the look of it...but not the stats.

And often there might be just a single agreed on piece of gear that has the best stats for your job even with a lot of different types of gear available...meaning everyone ends up wearing that one piece of gear.

Although that means I'd most likley end up dressed like a Corsair 24/7.
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As someone else said, having all the customization in the world for our character means nothing if everyone in endgame is covered in the same endgame armor. My hair color/streaks mean nothing if it's always covered by those archer hoodies, paladin helms, mage hats, etc...

Being able to customize armor is good to a point so people can differentiate from others in the way they look. I just hope I don't see someone in endgame with a customizable bathing suit that can have the same stats as heavy plate armor. That would be silly and would kind of ruin it for me. There can really only be a certain number of endgame armors, and being able to allocate stats onto those armors, change their color, have emblems and guild symbols, and other slight variations would be enough for me I think. It wasn't a huge problem in FFXI I don't think. Even among members of the same class, everyone kinda looked different. It was pretty rare seeing 2 people with the exact same armor sets.

It's also nice being able to look at a character and know what class they are. Seeing a Roegadyn out on the field of battle wearing a dress and policeman hat tanking a mob may seem funny, but would ruin the game for people that take this game somewhat seriously. I also don't want to see mages wearing plate armor, or tanks wearing cloth.

We can't stray too far from conventional fantasy clothing or the game just becomes silly and immature, and non-immersed.
#27 Apr 10 2010 at 3:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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I think the way EQII handled the "appearance" item set was done very well. Not sure why other games have had such a hard time incorporating this concept into their own games.

Being able to customize your facial appearance, hair, and skin color means absolutely nothing if you're wearing the exact same clothes and colors as the 100,000+ other people playing the same class.



EQ2 did have a great system for this, yes. I heard LOTRO had a similar system.

I can't tell you how much I want to be able to wear my DRG AF and not be thought a noob, lol.
#28 Apr 10 2010 at 6:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I just recently got interested in FFXIV, but really, due to the graphics, they can probably do a LOT with the equipment, some of the concept art, or whatever you wanna call it, shows off some nice armor as it is.

Hopefully, they put an appearance system in it, so that you won't have to sacrifice stats for appearance.
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