Now, I'm not saying there's no value to be gained in researching a challenging battle. As I'm sure you'd guess, we were up to our eyeballs in finding out anything we could about the next CoP fight each night after completing the previous one. But we didn't quit because they listed setup wasn't possible with the jobs we had available. It's the perception that there is one way to succeed, and that any other - or dare I say lesser - setup is a waste of time that I take issue with. I've had enough success in my playing days in leveling and missions to know such bull, well, is just that.
I never required specific jobs or setups when I cleared through CoP. I just required that people play at a reasonable level. I was still labeled as elitist when I refused to bring people on missions when they had demonstrated their incapacity to function as a team outside the "pull -> kill -> repeat" xp mindset. And that's my point...people toss around the term "elitist" altogether too easily. It's not even a discriptive term to them...it's their stock butthurt response to being rejected because they can't perform at a certain level for whatever reason...gear, skill, ADHD...doesn't matter. "You didn't let me join your group therefore you are elistist."
No, I didn't let you join my group because you demonstrated an inability to contribute, and I'm not on a charity mission.
The One and Only Aurelius wrote:
You're getting somewhat off track here, in my opinion. And even then I'll debate the accuracy of your point. I'm in no way arguing that a lack of knowledge is beneficial. I'm stating that becoming a slave to one setup artificially limits your options when it comes to advancing your goals. I've yet to encounter a single fight in my time on any of a half dozen MMOs that I truly believed was only accomplish-able with One Party setup and Exacting gear requirements. Instead of theorycrafters agonizing over the math of a battle, most gear crazed elitists simply copy and paste a setup and strategy they found on the web that had a couple successful runs. Some people would rather spend four hours in town shouting for help and rejecting what their source deems to be insufficient applicants. Others are happy to instead spend an hour trying a fight out with enthusiastic participants, succeed or fail. And you may be surprised to find how often a few clever gamers can succeed without ElitistJerks telling them they can first.
I'm not getting off track. It seems to me more like your view of elitism is scattered. Your'e referencing idiots and forgeting that people often get labeled as elistist because underachievers need a way to deflect their ineptitude. I could give a rat's *** what stupid people do or say. They need a group of overgeared people to do simple content? That's not elitism...that's badism. And playing at the level that I played at in my most recent MMO of choice and having the gear that most people would tend to drool over, their ridiculous requirements never restricted me in any way, shape, or form. I never responded to requests to fill roles in those kinds of groups for the exact same reason I've stated here: they're not indicating that they're awesome and want other awesome people to join them...they're indicating that they suck and need to be carried. Half the time, those outrageous requirements are things that the person assembling the grou pcan't even live up to themselves, but they have a skewed perception of their own ability to contribute and an equally skewed notion that if everyone else overgears the content it's guaranteed to be an easy run. So when you know that, all of a sudden you realize that "elitist" doesn't even apply, because you have to be elite to be an elitist. When the mouthy douchebag is demanding more than they can contribute themselves, they're not elite...they're an idiot. So label it properly..."You're an idiot. I hate idiots." Elitism has nothing to do with it.
I don't care what idiots do or say because stupid people do and say stupid things. I care that whiny little monkeys label anyone that rejects them for any reason as elitist. It's not my fault you're not that good, and my decision to pass you over for someone else wasn't personal. I'll give anyone a chance, and you have to be pretty bad for me to remember you long enough to refuse you admission to a group so if that's you and you're butthurt about it, your problem is in your mirror. Up your game and be a team player. That's all you need to do. Notice there's no mention of gear or optimal builds. It's an overall evaluation based on the outcome of a particular situation. But I've been labeled elitist more times than I can count. So the mouthy douchebags and the chronic underachievers who don't understand the concept of team play aren't so different after all...they're all idiots.
And then, having blown ALL of the smoke off of it, you realize it's not about gear, or skill, or elitists, or bads. It's about idiots, and they come in all different shapes and sizes. If you need to hate on a group of people, hate on the idiots. Everything else is a waste of time.