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#1 Apr 22 2010 at 7:38 PM Rating: Good
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I'm Curious to know how people will react when this game comes out.

Since this basically is a brand new game, what options do you feel that you have? think you may have?
I've never played a MMO from the very beginning (Aion was 1-2 months old when i started).

FFXI retiree for 8 years and just wondering what road people are going to take. please be serious about your post becuase honestly some of the views and opinion's here are going to determine what i do.



Are people going to play casually and test the game out? Take time and put forth some effort towards quest?/battle system?
like not focus heavily on one thing? i understand there will be a select few but mainly im wondering what most semi-hardcore/casual players will do. As for the hardcore players who can do 15-20 hours a day, i want to hear your thoughts as well. Even the people who wont sleep 32+ hours.

Or will people take the "Race to the endgame" route. Team up with a few friends,not really focus on what you want to play but pick jobs based on what is needed, level as quickly as possible, bypass quest and missions until your at cap. Maybe even try to start killing the "End game bosses" (Provided their is an end game 3-4 weeks after release. Maybe even start a legion to start getting recognized.

Im extremely curious to know what most people will due.

In your reply,

Indicate your play time: I.E -> 12hrs/day, 5hrs/day
Your type of play style: I.E Casual/semi-hardcore/hardcore/extremely hardcore (no life)
What you plan to do and why

Thanks in advance,
Blazedd

Edit: grammar


Edited, Apr 22nd 2010 9:39pm by Blazerman

Edited, Apr 22nd 2010 9:45pm by Blazerman
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#2 Apr 22 2010 at 7:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Its grammar. :)

I'll tell you the results you're going to get. A small amount of people will take the came very seriously. They'll be the first to get to end game content.

A larger group will play daily and get to end game decently quickly.

The rest will be casual players who may not even get to end game content.
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#3 Apr 22 2010 at 7:47 PM Rating: Good
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Not to be rude, but i know what people are going to do, i knew everything you just posted.
i'm just asking what are YOU going to do. Personally for peoples individual selves.
I know what people will do in a general sense im looking for more of the personal level here
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#4 Apr 22 2010 at 7:50 PM Rating: Decent
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You're taking a survey, correct? If you already know what people are going to do, then why take a survey? Wouldn't it be better to just ask, "Hey, guys! How much time do you think you're going to play every day?"

People are much more likely to give you what you're looking for if they feel this isn't some sort of survey but instead just some guy asking a question.
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#5 Apr 22 2010 at 7:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Simple because i want to.

Looking for individual thoughts on their own way their going to play.

Edit: This post isn't based on how long people will play. its based on what they plan to do as an individual.


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#6 Apr 22 2010 at 8:00 PM Rating: Decent
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There have already been threads like this, but I'll bite anyway.

Personally, I plan on playing this less than 1 hour/day. I would fit into the casual gamer category.

I'm a believer that the journey is more important than the destination, and this applies to MMOs. I'll play as long as I am having fun, and it is not taking too much time from other aspects of my life. There are so many things to enjoy in life, I really hope that people won't devote too much of their life in one game (there will always be the hardcore though).
#7 Apr 22 2010 at 8:03 PM Rating: Decent
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#8 Apr 22 2010 at 8:25 PM Rating: Good
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Since I work early mornings and early evenings, with blocks of free time in between then I will probably have the chance to play about 8 hours a day. The question is, how productive will those 8 hours be? I will probably do a combination of casual play and a race. Basically if I am enjoying something in the game and wanting to do it a lot then I am going to progress fast (to others it may appear that I am racing, when in fact I am just having fun and playing a lot).

I don't care about racing to end game content, but I do care about enjoying the journey, making sure I have the ability to experience everything the game has to offer, and to be very good at whatever I do in the game.
#9 Apr 22 2010 at 8:32 PM Rating: Decent
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If I get my way. I'll be running FFXIV 24/7. During my schooldays I would play from the time I got home to the time I went to bed which was 3PM-1 AM. Roughly 10 hours a day I managed to get in. I'm out of school now, but I wanted to go back to University next fall, FFXIV is coming out by the end of the year so I will most likely be putting off school for at least 2 years to play FFXIV.

In the event in which I do manage to save up for a decent computer and I don't go to school, which will be most likely. I'll be on FFXIV from the time I get up to the time I go to bed. Probably 17 hours a day I can do at max.

-/extremely hardcore


This time will be different. In FFXIV I managed to get pretty good gear, 100 craft, high level fishing and 75 job, but what kept me back was my school hours, failure to connect with any decent end-game LS's. I was on Ramuh. We had a monopolized end game scene. There were only around 3 good end game ls's. If you didn't get into one of these you were pretty much out of luck for end game gear, excluding sky and dynamis.


What do I plan to do in FFXIV? I plan on finding a great LS that's still running on FFXI, tell them my credentials and tag along with them. I know there has to be a FFXI end game LS that would be migrating to FFXIV at release. If i don't find one to tag along with. I'll just level at hardcore pace 'til I do end up finding a group that is dedicated as I am
#10 Apr 22 2010 at 8:36 PM Rating: Good
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If I get my way. I'll be running FFXIV 24/7. During my schooldays I would play from the time I got home to the time I went to bed which was 3PM-1 AM. Roughly 10 hours a day I managed to get in. I'm out of school now, but I wanted to go back to University next fall, FFXIV is coming out by the end of the year so I will most likely be putting off school for at least 2 years to play FFXIV.


Either you're being sarcastic, you've got a wealthy family, a physical disability, a mental illness, or you need to give some serious thought to priorities.
#11 Apr 23 2010 at 12:13 AM Rating: Good
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Well if there have already been treads like this you must excuse me.

iI'm sure hundreds of threads go by here everyday and i rarely come here

thanks for any post tho
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#12 Apr 23 2010 at 12:22 AM Rating: Decent
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I'll be sopmewhere in the middle. I will really want to get something to endgame but I'm an altaholic. I Want to try every job and unlock every new job and try them out as well, if thewres too much to do I might never reach endgame because I'll be busy trying to do everything all at once, but I'll be playing for lots of hours so it'll be a hardcore casual situation.
#13 Apr 23 2010 at 12:52 AM Rating: Good
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I think I will play at night, before going to bed, that on weekdays, not much time, maybe a hour and a half.
Weekends will be a different story, but since FFXIV is going to be casual friendly, I don't think that I will have much trouble. Don't want to race it either, it is a Final Fantasy, the more it lasts the better!
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#14 Apr 23 2010 at 6:27 AM Rating: Decent
Between work and exercise I can possibly get away with 3 hours on weekdays and 10 hours on weekends if I totally ignore my RL friends and family.

Just a word of warning to those hardcore people, you will be the first to complain about there's not enough content and will have to go through the longest period of time waiting for next content patch.

I doubt initial release of FFXIV will have a lot of end game content. It's not like WoW where everyone is close to max level and Blizzard has to make a lot of endgame content with each expansion and content patch. People assumed this for Aion and those people who raced to max level they had very little to do.


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#15 Apr 23 2010 at 6:39 AM Rating: Good
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I think the best moments of a MMO are the first initial levels. Why rush them? It's not like you are going to get anything...
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#16 Apr 23 2010 at 6:51 AM Rating: Decent
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I will probably average 1-2 hours a day, with some days going as high as 8-10, and some not playing at all. That's how it was for FFXI anyway.

I'm also a "casual" player I guess. I'm not overly interested in grinding out all the levels ASAP to get to the end game. I took my time in FFXI and plan to do the same in XIV. I'm the type of player--as I'm sure many, many on this board are--who can be just as happy spending my day fishing as level grinding or completing rank missions.
#17 Apr 23 2010 at 10:45 AM Rating: Decent
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I played FFXI around 6-8 hours everyday. Never hard core racing to the, just loving the world and friends.
This time around I'll play as often as I can, probably 6-8 hours for a couple of weeks until the wife gets tired of not talking to me anymore...even though she says she'll play this one! (she can't stand FFXI)
The one thing that is certain I will play every single day provided I have access to the computer the game is installed on. Maybe 10 minutes, but probably 3-4 hours everyday just playing around doing whatever strikes my fancy at the moment.
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#18 Apr 25 2010 at 11:26 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't even think I'll be playing daily at first if it comes out after school has started up again. I'm gonna be starting college, so honestly I'll just have better things to do, haha. I played XI for nearly five years, and went back and forth between 13 hours every day to a couple hours every week, so I do have hardcore capacity in me, but I'm really excited to hear that XIV is going to be casual-friendly.

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I think the best moments of a MMO are the first initial levels.


I totally agree with this statement. :) By my last year of playing XI, all I ever did was reminisce about 'the good ol' days.' xD
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#19 Apr 25 2010 at 8:42 PM Rating: Good
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I'll be playing mostly at night, after my children have gone to sleep. I'm figuring about 1-2 hours during the week on the nights I can play, and about 4-5 hours Fri & Sat nights.

My wife claims she'd like to try this one out. She dipped her toes into FFXI but never found the time to really play. So my playtime may increase if she's playing the game at the same time as I am.
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#20 Apr 26 2010 at 12:05 AM Rating: Good
Personally, FFXI and other mmo's don't really start until you have hit max level with one job. In real life, it's much the same as the mmorpg, you have to "grow up" before you can enjoy many of the freedoms of age. Some people can't wait to "grow up" and do "grown up" things, but then they always reminisce about the "good old days." I like to play a game the way I wish I could live my life. That's why I will enjoy my in-game "childhood" and take my time. I know there will be many things only the "grown ups" get to do, but this time at least, I'm going to enjoy the process of getting there. In all other mmo's I rushed to get to the end-game -- maybe I'm getting too old, but I just want to spend more time in the "good old days" phase of the game this time.
#21 Apr 26 2010 at 12:06 AM Rating: Good
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I would love to say that I would like to put a ton of time into it, considering in ffxi I never got to experience much endgame because I was a slow to level player and it would be great to be up to par with the community when every one is doing a particular endgame. However, no mmo will ever be able to grab me and addict me like ffxi. solely because it was my first mmo. So as much as I want to say I will be a rusher this time around, I doubt I will. Also in the last 7 years of growing up, I find I have a lot less time, a lot more ways to have fun, and I refuse to be a hermit.
#22 Apr 26 2010 at 9:10 AM Rating: Good
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I'm going to get a feel for the game and make some gil to support my first DoW class by starting off the game as a Blacksmith. This has been my plan for awhile now. I want to familiarize myself with the game world and my home town while at the same time building up Blacksmith, making gil and hopefully start building in game relationships as soon as possible.

This will give me valuable experience and gil for when I start actually playing the game and starting my adventures in Eorzea.
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#23 Apr 26 2010 at 11:32 AM Rating: Decent
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The problem with the 'carrot on a string' MMO's these days is that if you play more than a few hours a week you actually catch the 'carrot' and find out it's not all you imagined it to be. And by carrot on a string, I mean the types with rapid level progression, easy gameplay, and frequent shiny rewards, which give the illusion the player is actually achieving something meaningful with every valuable second they can devote to the game.

I'll probably start off 15-25 hours for the first week as the last several years of hype will prevent me from turning away. Then it'll die down to 10-20 hours per week. Hopefully that's not too hardcore for FFXIV.
#24 Apr 26 2010 at 2:12 PM Rating: Decent
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I would sometimes spend hours doing nothing but fishing. Is that considered hard core fishing?

This game, like all mmos, will have people rushing to the end, people taking their time, and those in the middle. All I know is that I'm not likely to ever get to the point where I complain there's nothing to do. SE also does a fine job with "end game" content, so even those who rush part of the way will probably find entertainment in the game for a long period of time.

Those who rush to get to the end and then complain about boredom can just quit and give me all their stuff. :)
#25 Apr 26 2010 at 2:42 PM Rating: Default
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well i decided that i'm going to get a big hdtv and a ps3 to play this game. building a new computer just ffxiv is too pricey right now. don't know how this will effect my gameplay. i hope the ps3 versions don't go slower or something than PCs
#26 Apr 26 2010 at 3:56 PM Rating: Decent
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I'll probably only battle with a few friends that I know in real life, and then I'll go around and play casually if they're not on -- work on my blacksmithing and get that loot by forging some great weapons for the masses... maybe I'll go fishing on the dock once in a while, or perhaps just walk around and explore cities, but blacksmithing will definitely be most important to me next to battling. I actually can't wait to check out some solo quests since S-E seems to have put more focus into that aspect; I remember reading about the lead designer loving the romantic idea of the 'lone adventurer.'
#27 Apr 26 2010 at 4:08 PM Rating: Good
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well i decided that i'm going to get a big hdtv and a ps3 to play this game. building a new computer just ffxiv is too pricey right now. don't know how this will effect my gameplay. i hope the ps3 versions don't go slower or something than PCs


Looking at some prices online, a "big" (40 inch+) HDTV is going to run you at the very least, $600. PS3 will be $300.

that's already $900 right there, assuming you want a 40in -- hardly the biggest out there. By the time XIV is release (I'm putting my money on december), $900 may just be enough to get you a decent XIV rig, based on today's PC specs and prices later this year. Just a thought...
Unless you really are in the market for a nice TV and PS3 ^^
#28 Apr 26 2010 at 4:36 PM Rating: Decent
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It really depends what the games like I didn't play the original Final Fantasy online, so I dunno if its quest intensive or grind intensive. If its like Aion which is pretty grind intensive i'll probably be a lot more casual and end up quiting it :( If its like WoW with a lot of quests all the way up to max level then i'll still be casual but spend more time than I would of done if it was like aion.

Aion like - 1-2 hours a day

WoW like - 3-4 hours a day
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#29 Apr 26 2010 at 4:44 PM Rating: Decent
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i'm not really into the market to getting a big hdtv and ps3. it's just that i'd rather spend my money on a ps3 and a hdtv instead of a new computer. i don't play many games on the computer and i have a computer that's fine for the games i want to play on it right now. i'm not going to see myself paying that much money for a new computer when i'm only going to play FFXIV. so i'd rather get a ps3 that has better games on it and ffxiv. and i'll probably have my computer running alongside my ps3 so i can get quick access to information.
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I'll be doing the PS3 as well. I quit FFXI about 5 years ago, and played it on the PS2. As long as the expansions come out for the PS3 as well as PC, i'll be happy! And i'm hoping for a Netplay PS2 style controller as well.

I do have a pretty new PC, but my wife has stated that it's -not- a gaming rig lol

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#31 Apr 26 2010 at 7:31 PM Rating: Decent
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in FFXI i played as much as i could really so my time would vary from day to day but id say i was moderatly hardcore but i feel like i had the most fun doing the endgame stuff the big fights working together with LS mates. At the same time i never really took the time to pick up a craft and do some of the exploring/sightseeing stuff which i kinda regret so i think i will take this game at a more casual pace than XI but still work hard towards the endgame stuff. i know that i will definatly be picking up a craft or fishing in hopes to make some early money, that alone should slow me down a little bit lol
#32 Apr 26 2010 at 7:36 PM Rating: Good
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koderx wrote:
i'm not really into the market to getting a big hdtv and ps3. it's just that i'd rather spend my money on a ps3 and a hdtv instead of a new computer. i don't play many games on the computer and i have a computer that's fine for the games i want to play on it right now. i'm not going to see myself paying that much money for a new computer when i'm only going to play FFXIV. so i'd rather get a ps3 that has better games on it and ffxiv. and i'll probably have my computer running alongside my ps3 so i can get quick access to information.


Well right now a used 40 gig PS3 will run you 200$ used, about 250$ if you get the warranty which I highly recommend. Who knows what it will be in a few months though, so I'd wait if I were you. I was lucky enough to get my PS3 free! Glad I got that problem solved.

As for the TV I did a little searching for another member on these forums and you can get a 30 something inch 720 HD TV for in the range of 300$ from Best Buy, which is pretty good. However again with all this new technology hitting the market if you wait a few months you could likely see those prices drop. ****, considering XIV's slated release you could probably wait right up until Black Friday and get yourself a great HDTV for a huge discount. As a matter of fact.. I think that's what I'm gonna do!
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#33 Apr 27 2010 at 3:35 PM Rating: Good
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I plan on playing the game to start out figuring out the world, finding out the best play style, locations, lore etc. After I get a firm grasp of the game I usually end up playing on a single character as far as I can take it.

As you indicited, my playtime is usually 4hours a day at most during the week (usually 2-3), and weekends as much as I can fit in without making my eyes bleed.

I consider myself a casual gamer with periodic moments of "hardcore gamer/how did I grow a three foot long beard gamer" syndrome.
#34 Apr 27 2010 at 4:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Xentok wrote:
I think the best moments of a MMO are the first initial levels. Why rush them? It's not like you are going to get anything...


Actually that is a mistake - being first to 'endgame' has a lot of benefits. Aside from the initial I'm 'better than you' garbage, you also have a ton of advantages when it comes to obtaining rare(r) loot[less people to compete for it], the ability to 'explore' things people haven't[and develop the strategies everyone will then use], better ability to make money and thus benefit greatly from crafting and marketplace 'abuse'. Saying there is no benefit/you aren't getting anything from rushing is quite naive.
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"Actually that is a mistake - being first to 'endgame' has a lot of benefits. Aside from the initial I'm 'better than you' garbage, you also have a ton of advantages when it comes to obtaining rare(r) loot[less people to compete for it], the ability to 'explore' things people haven't[and develop the strategies everyone will then use], better ability to make money and thus benefit greatly from crafting and marketplace 'abuse'. Saying there is no benefit/you aren't getting anything from rushing is quite naive."

Re: competition, I can see that being an issue if the best gear is obtained by raids camping the same spawn point. Do we know if that's how it will be at end game?

As for development of strategies, there's nothing stopping "slower" people from developing their own strategies. If I'm fighting a mob that someone else has already fought, and that other person/group developed a strat for it, it's a lot more fun for me to figure out the fight on my own rather than reading a list of instructions. But that's just me. :)

As for the crafting and marketplace 'abuse' I can see that being true if there are items that are superb with stats, not BOA, and can be used by people who have not done the content where such items are obtained. But generally people who claim "server firsts" are usually not alone very long.
#36 Apr 28 2010 at 6:56 AM Rating: Default
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I'll probably do the same thing I did when XI came out. Take my two weeks of vacation and then play for three days in a row. Go do something else the 4th day and then three more days and repeat.

I'm looking to make a lot of progress the first few days. But like last time I'll probably find it pretty lonely the first week until I find others who have the same level of play time as I do.
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I'll probably do the same thing I did when XI came out. Take my two weeks of vacation and then play for three days in a row. Go do something else the 4th day and then three more days and repeat.


It's really funny you should say that. My wife just asked me a couple of days ago if I wanted to save a vacation week for when XIV comes out so I can start off strong. Man, I love her!
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