Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
You guys have a very active, well thought out and reasoned discussion thread going on here, without any tactical nukes being used. I'm impressed. One or two of you might want to watch the STFU's if you were looking to keep things reasonable and articulate, /shrug.
censorship, oh boy. when someone says something too obviously inane to require a proper response, a "stfu" is both acceptable and adequate.
Why thank you Dread Lord Kaolian, its nice to discuses stuff!
On topic here, what is this major problem with /check and the major benefit of /check? does it serve a legitimate purpose or is it useless? valid points for ether conclusions.
it's not a matter of legitimacy, it's a matter of policy about players' privacy. what use is it to inspect someone? you can't use the information to help the other player at all.
the only thing this feature actually does is allow players to make judgements about others based on (misleading, or simply irrelevant!) misinformation. this is simply a misuse of information for a malicious act.
Will being checked lead to others being judged...well that is a common assumption but that's not 'because' of the ability to check, that simply other people judging. People will judge one another no matter what, be it on equipment or on skill or on general attitude (or maybe a combination of the 3)
people can't judge you if they can't inspect you. without the disguise of gear to hide their elitism (which is nothing more than cliquish abuse and harassment), other players will have to decide your merit to the party based on your performance
. this approach naturally would encourage players to be tolerant and perhaps even altruistic. apparently a good attitude is too much to expect from the FFXI crowd that seems so eager to **** all over a brand new game with their legacy of bitter selfishness.
the option to forbid oneself from being inspected entirely is the only reasonable solution. not just disabling the alert.
Removing checking wont remove all of judgment when it involves hundreds or thousands of people. People are going to judge. But then again all people aren't shallow. There will be 'bad apples' in any bunch along with the good ones. So...filters seem like the best bet, turn checking on or off, some people want to be checked and others don't...there is a fair way to make everyone happy right?
perhaps. but the prevalence of "bad apples" is, as you say, a matter of the playerbase -- and if it reflects the behavior of those who frequent this particular ZAM forum, it will ruin the game for all but a particularly sociopathic few who expect their failed culture
to carry straight over from a dead MMO.
First of all, thanks for proving my point. I also find it hilarious you refer to my post as tl;dr just because it isn't broken up into bursts of whining like your posts. Maybe you didn't actually address it because you can't because you're wrong. Second of all, Mikhalia stated his argument in a perfectly legitimate fashion, something you are clearly incapable of. If you want privacy to the extent you're going to pee your pants if someone /checks you, do us all a favor and don't play FFXIV. If anything, you're a bigger douche than the "snobbish pricks" you're ranting against and your post makes me believe I'd prefer being discriminated against for my gear than get stuck in a party with an un-checkable @#%^ like you. You can take your no-friends-irl-l337 internet speak and shove it.
leet speak... really... well, allow me to link you to a place where you can find the definitions of terms. first up is a convenient link to definitions of leet speak, none of which i used (you might want to read stuff before you ***** about it) http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=leet+speak
and for those multisyllabic words, http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/privacy
for the record, "broken into bursts" is called paragraphing. a modicum of formatting will tempt people to read your drivel and therefore respond to it with perhaps more respect. but why respect someone who doesn't respect you first? insult your readers by vomiting a block of blatant fallacy and superiority complex, and you shouldn't be surprised that they call you on it.
"can't because i'm wrong?"
your personal anecdotes don't do anything for your position. you just told us what you think and feel is correct, and then got mad when i didn't fall for it. i glossed over your previous post because it contained absolutely no value whatsoever
and now i've spent way more time dignifying you with a response than you rightly deserve.