Just because I enjoy feeding the trolls from time to time...
What drives me crazy is people who got so sensitive about it. I currently play Aion and even though there is no notification in the chat log that someone's examining you, people still block it. Why do they feel the need to hide what they are wearing? The beauty of Aion is even if they block you from looking in game, you can just log on to their online profile and look if you really really must know what that amazing looking sword is.
why do you feel the need to know what they are wearing? why do you wear clothes? why not just go naked? why do you feel the need to hide your body from public scrutiny? speaking of your actual body, not just your avatar, to make this point.
Regarding your actual point (armor in game): Going naked is probably the worst possible gear you can have. Even if all of your gear is junk, at least it profides some DEF.
Regarding your snarky joke point (actual nudity): I don't wear any clothes on days that I don't need to go anywhere. If I don't have to run to the store or go to work, I just walk around the house naked. So does my fiancee. We'd be perfectly comfortable going out in public naked if it weren't illegal. Saves time on figuring out what to wear, doing laundry, and shopping for more clothes periodically.
Only time I wear clothes in my home is when guests are coming over, or perhaps when it's really cold (and even then, I'm usually just naked under a blanket because it's more comfortable.
Granted I'm sure I'm a minority, but for the sake of your argument, I have no qualms about hiding my body.
I said nothing about requiring the best gear - only gear that shows you know what you're doing.
gear may never actually show that you know what you're doing. extraneous circumstances, as i mentioned before.
Good gear may not necessarily indicate you know what you're doing, but bad gear can indicate you don't. Unless you have a reason that someone could theoretically be the most skilled player but CHOOSE to not wear acceptable gear available at a reasonable price. I don't want to hear any of this "He/she may have a life" crap either, because it's ********* I'll grant you that the "They have a life" argument MAY extend to not having the BEST gear but there are a plethora of players who "have a life" and still manage to scrounge up at least DECENT gear.
So tell me: If a person is leveling their... let's say Warrior. And they have two options: one is gloves with STR+2 DEX+2 and one is gloves with options INT+5 MND-2... If you're going to assume this player is as "skilled" as you want him to be for your argument's purpose, why would he CHOOSE the latter option? And why should anyone else not have the option of checking him to know his choice?
That why I specifically used the example of Battle Gloves: they provide a small amount of accuracy, which is always good for a melee class like MNK, but they are easy to obtain (when I stopped playing the cost all of 10,000 gil, which does not take very long to obtain.
why does the perverse, selfish culture of FFXI mean anything to us in FFXIV? this mentality is deeply disturbing, and i can't imagine that it will promote population growth.
I don't understand what you're trying to say here at all. You're asking why people in FFXIV should want to wear gear than makes sense, "Just because people in another game do it"? I don't care if you're a FFXI MNK or a WoW Warrior or a Swordsman in RO or a Fighter in DDO... if you have two pairs of gloves you can wear, one that gives +Acc and +Eva (or +Hit or +Dodge, whatever) and another that gives no plus to anything... why would anyone want to wear the statless gloves in a party? And don't use the "looks" option either. Again, no one cares about what you look like solo, but when you're in a party, suddenly 5 other people are depending on you to know what you're doing and have gear that helps you do it. How DARE they expect you to not be terribad when YOU want to wear whatever YOU want, whenever YOU want to? Clearly the other five of them are selfish. Couldn't possibly be you, no sir.
And you're reading the causality completely wrong - I never said or even implied (except to the most warped, willfully miscomprehending mind) that a player is only good because of their gear; in fact that's the reverse of what I said. It's an if-then relationship - IF a player is skilled, THEN they will choose correctly out of the gear that is available to them.
Again, a major part of one's skill is being able to choose the right tools form the ones that are available - it's knowing that, even if I can't go get a ***** gun, the screwdriver on my Swiss army is better for removing screws than the knife blade is.
you contradicted yourself in those two paragraphs. i'm not reading the relationship wrong, that is
the predicate of your entire stance: that if you're a good player, you will have good gear. ignoring completely, by the way, that the definition of "good gear" is entirely arbitrary and subjective
Many of the arguments cited don't require you to be a good player or to figure out arbitrary or subjective rules. We're not debating "Haidate vs Usukane" wherein math has to come into it; all of the cited examples have not been arguing whether X piece of top tier gear is better than Y piece of top tier gear... it's arguing the basic ability to read and understand numbers.
If you're a Black Mage, would you pick an item that gives +INT or +STR?
If you're a Dragoon, would you pick an item that gives +Acc or one that gives +CHA?
If you're a Warrior, would you pick an item that gives +5 STR or +2 STR?
These are all blatantly obvious examples where you don't even have to play the game to know what the right answer is. My mother's experience with games is limited to Wii Sports and I'd bet she could get it right. (Okay, maybe tossup on the second, in her case; unless I explained that Dragoon was a DD class first).
Reiterating what I've said in this post: If good gear and bad gear cost the same money, why would a good player choose to wear bad gear and still think they can call themselves a good player?
This all seems to come back to the "I want to where what I want, where I want, when I want, and don't you dare tell me not to, or YOU'RE being selfish" thing.
you can claim that i'm "warped" and "willfully miscomprehending", but the truth is that you don't know why you believe what you do, and instead you simply cling to your idea without thought of the interests of others out of a petty need to make me a villain. your appeals to emotion don't fool anyone... except apparently the fools on ZAM who love drama.
you see, an "IF -> THEN" statement is explicitly a causal fork. i'm not sure how you missed that, but maybe you aren't actually logician or programmer, and you just think you can drop terms without understanding them and not be caught?
I don't know what you're trying to say with any of this. If there was a point in there, I didn't see it.
as for the second paragraph, you willfully miscomprehend the concept that there's reasons which would prevent a perfect player from having even par gear. either real life calls and demands time, or perhaps that player simply isn't interested in grinding for gear? or perhaps he gave it to his wife/boyfriend so s/he could have good gear? or perhaps he's in the process of obtaining that gear? discriminating against players by excluding them from your group is counter-productive in just about any meaningful way, and it demonstrates a sociopathic mindset that, as i said before, is frankly just disturbing.
There are plenty of GOOD players that "have lives" and have ABOVE AVERAGE or better gear. If a player is truly God's gift to the world and has so little time that they can't afford ANY gear (10-15 mins a day worth of login?) I would imagine that they would be gracious enough to bow out.
Any "perfect player" is one who strives to be the best he/she can be; not one who settles for mediocrity. If someone truly is that good of a player, this is someone who will not accept subpar performance from themselves.
There's no such thing as the "perfect player who sucks". If you aren't good at a game, you either get better or you find a new game. Any good gamer (never mind perfect) understands this. Once you get into the "I'm going to play however I want, without regard to performance", you are no longer talking about a good (never mind perfect) player. You're talking about a selfish, immature brat with a sense of entitlement. And at that point, I don't care if their gear is good or not.
All the good gear in the world won't make up for a poor attitude. And when you're playing a game in a group, it's no longer about "What I want" but "What is best for everyone". Imagine how disastrous football or baseball or hockey or any other sport would be if the players showed up wearing whatever they want and did whatever they want on the field, because "We have a life, we can't be bothered to study playbooks"
Again: solo - do whatever you like. But you can't make the "It's my subscription to play how I want" argument when other people enter into it.
****, why don't you just take all the loot too? After all, it's your subscription, why should the rest of your party have a say in what you can or can't roll on?
Blah blah blah... Funny diatribe. Hope you enjoyed that 24 hour mute; looks like it wasn't good enough.
We won't miss you when you're gone.