with all the cutting edge math coming out of ElitistJerks, you think it would be meaningful for their users to tell everyone "go away, google will tell you"?
If you asked them what's new in WoW they would :)
ElitistJerks is now where all the new information is generated, and it used to be allakhazam. i wonder why the shift occured? i'm only here because i don't think EJ has a forum for FFXIV.
Allakhazam never had the level of optimization talk that EJ has for WoW. WoW job forums would often help people optimize their builds based on empirical evidence or general logic, but it was never extremely math intensive. The community here didn't have enough math nerds.
i think you're pretty much a snob, yes, and anecdotally, i remember vastly fewer helpful posts from bigger post-counts. literally, the post-count number under peoples' names is a measure of how much of a loud mouth they are. you'd think, then, that i'd remember proportionally more helpful information from users with higher post counts. but instead, what i remember is basically everyone with more than a thousand or so only chiming in to chatter about drama and useless off-topic trivialities. which is the case in this thread as well.
In my specific case, I generated the majority of my most recent posts in the OOT so it isn't likely you'd see me being very helpful in FFXI or WoW general (especially since my knowledge of those MMORPGs is so outdated). Look around the forums I do post in, and I think you'd find a fair number of genuinely helpful posts.
In a more general sense, I believe most of the high post count users here chime in withe relative
cynicism because they are past the hype. I've been through several MMORPG launches some of games I liked and some of games I didn't like. I know how it feels to become extremely hyped about an MMORPG and desperately wanting new information, but I also learned that at least for me it wasn't worth getting all excited. So I just decided to be patient with MMORPGs from then on. I think many of the veteran MMORPG players here feel the same way. They've seen the drama played out over and over and just decide they're not up for it. So instead of becoming incredibly excited they act normally, which relative to the extreme hype makes them seem like cynical bastards.
i think my premise is still valid, regardless of what bitter, cliquish, more vocal members of the forum may say: discussion forums exist to discuss things, and asking a question is a perfectly valid participation in discussion. furthermore, the OP was not a time-wasting or "stupid" question (there are no such) -- or even a rude one! -- because where else is one to find out new information about FFXIV? where do you suppose google searches direct you? perhaps often to discussion forums where new information is discussed...? is it unreasonable to expect that, of all the millions of people surely keeping watch for new info coming out about the game, some of them know something that you do not?
It doesn't give enough details to have a real discussion. It's literally "What's new?" It doesn't ask about what new information has been released about combat, what new information has been released about races, or what new information has been released about the cities. It also doesn't give us an idea of how up to date the poster is. Is "new" information to him/her anything in the last week, month, or year? There isn't much of a question to answer.
More than that though, it's a question that could be much better answered by the OP himself/herself. I have myself been slacking on keeping up in the FFXIV news, but it's easier for me to browse for resources on what I don't know than it is for anyone else, because I know what level of knowledge I currently have. It also wouldn't be very hard for me to do it myself because much of that knowledge is already contained here in existing threads. The OP could probably find out all he/she wanted to know just by reading this forum, but that would require a smidgen of effort.
And finally, anything posted here is stuff that is likely to have already been discussed. So this thread is at best, redundant.
I know it sounds like I'm coming down hard. I'm not trying to be mean, but I'm trying to convey the viewpoint on why people would find this thread rude.
you couldn't find it in your ****-retentive soul to give a polite "i dunno lol"? perhaps a "yeah, i'd like to hear, too!"? or even "no."?
If I did that, I'd be contributing to the problem.
instead you have to berate someone who asks an innocent question with a tirade all about how they're stupid and can't follow the silly cultural norms which your quasi-real, micro-cosmic sub-culture has arbitrarily created for itself based on childish, petty behavioral history?
But I didn't berate. I informed. In no way did I insult the OP for the creation of the thread. I didn't rate the OP down. The OP did something rude, but not malicious. He/she never intended to offend anyone. So I explained why people find it rude in the hopes of preventing this very same situation from occurring in the future.
You said you don't see this happen very often. I very much disagree, but since we're both making anecdotal statements I guess much can't be said on that subject. However it is at the very least evident based on this thread that I am not the only one who feels this way, and nor did I incite others to react this way.
i'm trying to inform you that pretty much everyone over the age of 12 finds you rude. i guess if you prefer to think everyone on the internet is wrong that you're a snob, then that's ... well, not really cool. but try not to get too mad when i point out how incredibly judgmental you are. and that i notice carrying on a pointless off-topic defense against me calling you out on your bad behavior is incrementing your post count, which you seem to think counts for something.
The difference between what we're doing is that you're intending to be deliberately insulting to me. You could have stated your difference of opinion and left it as a casual discussion as I tried to, but you chose not to. Edited, May 22nd 2010 9:55pm by Allegory